Actual CDC data Current Covid-19 hospitalzations of unvaccinated vs vaccinated 780:1?

[hiphopanonymous]

As of July 6, the CDC reported 5,186 cases of breakthrough Covid-19 cases that led to deaths or hospitalizations among 157 million fully vaccinated people in the US

That's about 1 in 30,000 who got vaccinated still getting sick enough with Covid-19 to wind up in the hospital.

What was the rate prior to vaccines rolling out?

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/covidnet/covid19_3.html
1 in 20 to as much as 1 in 5 depending on what month it was before vaccines existed.

Now that vaccines are out in the U.S. we still have a 1 in 50 hospitalization rate overall - but that's because in the U.S. there are still millions of people who choose not to get the vaccine (which is fine - they have the option if they don't want it).

But doesn't that mean if there are 780 people in a hospital system right now being treated for Covid - only one of those people was a vaccinated person. The 779 others are ones who didn't get vaccinated?

Correct me if I'm wrong here

[Shogon]

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[hiphopanonymous]

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

Cleveland Clinic seems to agree - "over 99%" of hospitalizations these days aren't vaccinated. Hmmm.

[warriorfan]

Op is absolutely fuming right now

[FultzNationRISE]

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

Cleveland Clinic seems to agree - "over 99%" of hospitalizations these days aren't vaccinated. Hmmm.


Good to know.

I'm surprised Britain is seeing 40% of Covid hospitalizations coming from the vaccinated. I wouldn't have expected such disparity between countries. It's seems extremely scientifically improbable.

Not sure what could explain it. But I will trust the science.

[tpols]

It means you're a retard who still believes everything your gubmint zaddy tells you.

[Cleverness]

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210513/over-_99-percent-hospitalized-2021-covid-patients-unvaccinated

Cleveland Clinic seems to agree - "over 99%" of hospitalizations these days aren't vaccinated. Hmmm.

This is for January - April, when a) the vast majority of the country wasn't vaccinated and b) a much greater number of people were hospitalized with Covid-19 in Jan/Feb.

I think this data set is better (for Virginia, USA):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6sAZasXEAgVVWb?format=jpg&name=900x900

95% of Covid-19 hospitalizations are people not fully vaccinated, albiet tiny numbers

But the case hospitalization and case fatality rates seem to be greater in vaccinated / partially vaccinated individuals than non vaccinated people...?

The strongest evidence of preventing hospitalization would be to compare the overall rate of hospitalization (for all causes) between vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

[coin24]

OP is just trying to convince himself he made the right decision to be a guinea pig:oldlol:

Enjoy your sixth and seventh variant jabs :cheers:

[RoseCity07]

Trumpers need another diaper change lol. Science wins again.

[Cleverness]

Trumpers need another diaper change lol. Science wins again.

Not sure what you mean here, but science has taken a massive L over the past ~15 months.




Ah, now we're talking. :applause:

Correct; it's never going to zero and this was known since March 2020. CDC already announced on March 8th that most Americans would be exposed to the virus before the end of 2020/2021 (true). The only reason for the NPIs to begin with was the hypothesis that hospitals would be overwhelmed. The details of that hypothesis were never revealed, but there were estimations of a hospitalization rate of 15-50% by people in charge when it was made (actual is ~1-2%, heavily weighted towards old/frail people who may have gone to the hospital regardless of Covid). (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481119-New-York-Times-These-Places-Could-Run-Out-of-Hospital-Beds-as-Coronavirus-Spreads&p=14026090&viewfull=1#post14026090)

Another big issue with the "acceptable number" is the illusion of control. Thanks to all the brainwashing, society and the politicians make the assumption that this unknown acceptable number is also something that can be controlled, and if we utilize the right combination of pseudoscience, this "acceptable number" will be obtained.

"Where's the science?" Good question. As we know, science is testable/falsifiable. The science given is based on lab experiments - some dating as far back as 2006 - using mannequins, heavyweight t-shirts (not joking), etc, under controlled environments, with plenty of other false assumptions baked into their conclusions from the data.

Where's the science in forcing 2 year olds to wear masks for 15+ months with no end date?

Where's the science behind outdoor dining bans and closing beaches?

Where's the science behind entering a restaurant with a mask, and then taking it off when sitting down?

Where's the science behind 72 inches? Why not 71 inches? Or 73?

Where's the science behind keeping travel bans? More importantly, as you put, what exactly is the achievable goal of each of these measures?

And time and time again, real world data shows no positive correlation between Covid stringency and Covid outcomes between states - including school closures, capacity restrictions, stay-at-home orders, mask mandates, mask compliance %, etc.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1399868103140556801.html

March 2020 there was somewhat of an achievable goal ("flatten the curve" to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed due to insanely high R values and predicted hospitalization rates of up to 50%). But after all the field hospitals were torn down, many after seeing zero patients, Navy ships sailed out, the (somewhat) achievable goal was gone.