How many Superteaming Collusion rings is Giannis' organic non-GMO ring worth?

[hiphopanonymous]

My guess is on average it equates to about 4 superteaming rings. One for every star player that colludes behind closed doors plus an additional ring penalty simply for trying to take the easy way out. Thoughts? Giannis also did this in epic dominating fashion with a dominant series and GOAT caliber closing game.

I think it's safe to say he's surpassed any collusion style ring chaser with 4 or less rings and is at least already on par with any with 5 and he's got a long career ahead of him :bowdown:

[RRR3]

This is sad.

[hiphopanonymous]

This is sad.

Naw, it's facts. Taking the easy way out is a sign of weakness that deserves to be penalized and it further divides the value of the pie into the number of people recruited. Pretty fair way of looking at it IMO. Great win by Giannis :applause:

[ShawkFactory]

The Bucks didn’t beat a great team at all.

Nothing can be taken away and it’s of course a legit ring. But context matters.

[hiphopanonymous]

The Bucks didn’t beat a great team at all.

Nothing can be taken away and it’s of course a legit ring. But context matters.
A non collusion team beat another non collusion team.

THANK GOD.

Enough with that trash era of the past if anything this ring counts more than any ring since Dirk :oldlol:

[FultzNationRISE]

OP, square the **** up and lets literally go hands right now.



COME ON!!!!!!!! :rant :banghead:

[NBAGOAT]

It was organic but the bucks went all out this offseason with the holiday deal and don’t forget were close with bogdanovic. They’re talented as hell and one of the few teams with
a “big 3” in the league. Likely top 3 talented team next year with injuries to kawhi and Murray

[Spurs m8]

Probably 5 - in today's league

[RRR3]

Naw, it's facts. Taking the easy way out is a sign of weakness that deserves to be penalized and it further divides the value of the pie into the number of people recruited. Pretty fair way of looking at it IMO. Great win by Giannis :applause:
Emotion-driven babble. Not sure why we give more credit to players drafted into good situations like Magic and Bird. Giannis is amazing but the Bucks didn’t beat a single truly elite level team with all the injuries and they went 2-0 without him too.

[TheMan]

My guess is on average it equates to about 4 superteaming rings. One for every star player that colludes behind closed doors plus an additional ring penalty simply for trying to take the easy way out. Thoughts? Giannis also did this in epic dominating fashion with a dominant series and GOAT caliber closing game.

I think it's safe to say he's surpassed any collusion style ring chaser with 4 or less rings and is at least already on par with any with 5 and he's got a long career ahead of him :bowdown:

Yep, 4 sounds about right.

[hiphopanonymous]

Emotion-driven babble. Not sure why we give more credit to players drafted into good situations like Magic and Bird. Giannis is amazing but the Bucks didn’t beat a single truly elite level team with all the injuries and they went 2-0 without him too.
Was Giannis drafted into a good situation!?

The Celtics were ASS before Bird. 29-53. Who were the Bucks before Giannis?

Why are you so salty he just did one of the most dominating things an NBA player can do? Won organically. Cultivated a winning culture from scratch.

This is inspiring, you're so lucky you got to witness it :applause:

[RRR3]

Was Giannis drafted into a good situation!?

The Celtics were ASS before Bird. 29-53. Who were the Bucks before Giannis?

Why are you so salty he just did one of the most dominating things an NBA player can do? Won organically. Cultivated a winning culture from scratch.

This is inspiring, you're so lucky you got to witness it :applause:
The Celtics were ass before they got prime McHale, Parish and Dennis Johnson plus a top 10 GOAT? You don’t say.

Giannis is great but he didn’t beat any of the top 3 teams this year. The Nets with just KD healthy don’t count. If you can find another time that’s happened I’d be surprised.

[Airupthere]

Was Giannis drafted into a good situation!?

The Celtics were ASS before Bird. 29-53. Who were the Bucks before Giannis?

Why are you so salty he just did one of the most dominating things an NBA player can do? Won organically. Cultivated a winning culture from scratch.

This is inspiring, you're so lucky you got to witness it :applause:

Giannis is the antithesis of lebron.

Lebron came in selfproclaiming to be king or the chosen one, but ends up leaving his fort time and again, superteamed and still managed to lose 6 times in the finals.

Giannis came in silently, with him and khris at the bottom. No promises, no attention seeking shit. They worked their way up and got one of the most satisfying rings of all time.

[StrongLurk]

All the colluding teams and super teams got hurt this year :lol

[hiphopanonymous]

Giannis is the antithesis of lebron.

Lebron came in selfproclaiming to be king or the chosen one, but ends up leaving his fort time and again, superteamed and still managed to lose 6 times in the finals.

Giannis came in silently, with him and khris at the bottom. No promises, no attention seeking shit. They worked their way up and got one of the most satisfying rings of all time.
Amen to that. This squad on paper looks EXACTLY like the squads everyone used to make excuses about if the keys were in the hands of other superstars of late. Hell, these superstars were blundering with even BETTER squads.

Giannis HAMMERED it home. No excuses. No proclamations. Just silently obliterated all the colluders in the league and bandwagoners that follow them :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Amen to that. This squad on paper looks EXACTLY like the squads everyone used to make excuses about if the keys were in the hands of other superstars of late. Hell, these superstars were blundering with even BETTER squads.

Giannis HAMMERED it home. No excuses. No proclamations. Just silently obliterated all the colluders in the league and bandwagoners that follow them :oldlol:
Yes this Bucks team totally looks like the 09 Cavs lmao. You’re pathetic. Imagine hating the best player in the history of your city.

[RRR3]

All the colluding teams and super teams got hurt this year :lol
OP is still devastated LeBron won in 2016 and he’s a Cavs fan :biggums:

[hiphopanonymous]

All the colluding teams and super teams got hurt this year :lol
Giannis' leg moved about a foot in the wrong direction just several games ago... cut it out with the excuses these softies just don't care to play when there is something big at stake. This just exactly proves how competitive Giannis is. He went out there and played.

Credit to the Suns too, they most definitely were playing through some injuries too. Those collusion superteaming softies just don't have the same fortitude to put it all on the line like that.

[ShawkFactory]

A non collusion team beat another non collusion team.

THANK GOD.

Enough with that trash era of the past if anything this ring counts more than any ring since Dirk :oldlol:

Nobody said it didn’t count. The suns aren’t as good as a lot of championship caliber non collusion teams of the last decade. Most notably the Spurs, pre KD Warriors, Lakers and OKC to name a few. They’re small and outside of CP3 and Crowder are very young. I like the next year but they shouldn’t have even been in the finals.

But...Giannis was obviously incredible. And it can just be about that if everyone would be cool. Obviously impossible here.

[hiphopanonymous]

Yes this Bucks team totally looks like the 09 Cavs lmao. You’re pathetic. Imagine hating the best player in the history of your city.

Why did you instantly think about LeBron when I didn't even bring him up in any of these discussions you weirdo try celebrating this all-time dominant championship by Giannis maybe instead of making this about anyone else? :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Nobody said it didn’t count. The suns aren’t as good as a lot of championship caliber non collusion teams of the last decade. Most notably the Spurs, pre KD Warriors, Lakers and OKC to name a few. They’re small and outside of CP3 and Crowder are very young. I like the next year but they shouldn’t have even been in the finals.

But...Giannis was obviously incredible. And it can just be about that if everyone would be cool. Obviously impossible here.
Also wtf is “collusion”? Are teams not allowed to sign free agents lmao?

[RRR3]

Why did you instantly think about LeBron when I didn't even bring him up in any of these discussions you weirdo try celebrating this all-time dominant championship by Giannis maybe instead of making this about anyone else? :oldlol:
Are you actually retarded?



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[hiphopanonymous]

Also wtf is “collusion”? Are teams not allowed to sign free agents lmao?
Oh sure they're allowed no debate there.

Just like billionaires and megachurches are allowed to not pay taxes while all middle class people are forced to fork over 30% of their wage to support the people on welfare and shield the rich from paying taxes and poor people with bad credit pay all the penalties and interest to billionaire credit card lenders that never pay a cent towards interest nor towards taxes.

In other words, just because something is allowed or even necessary doesn't mean it's virtuous or fair or the side I want to root for. Forgive me for choosing to root for the REAL HEROES. The ones who fought the good fight the right way - the more virtuous and moral way :applause:

[hiphopanonymous]

Are you actually retarded?



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Your head must be spinning watching Giannis get all this due credit for winning in a way that we haven't seen since Dirk (only even more dominant). Idk why you can't just celebrate it this might be the greatest ring you may have witnessed in your lifetime

[bullettooth]

All the colluding teams and super teams got hurt this year :lol

The last 10 years of basketball have been some of the least inspiring in NBA history. Nothing better for the NBA than the LeBron collusion era to come to an end.

[ImKobe]

His 1 organic ring is worth more than all of Lebron's combined.

[bullettooth]

His 1 organic ring is worth more than all of Lebron's combined.

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[3ba11]

Super-teams have favorite status in Year 1 - they didn't build and earn favorite status over many years like organic teams are required to do

So super-teams are a shortcut and that's why those rings mean literally nothing.. Cheat code victories don't count - everyone knows that

[baudkarma]

One ring. It's worth one ring. If this is the only title that Giannis has won by the time he retires, history will note that he won one ring during his career. Not two, not three, not twelve. One.

[3ba11]

One ring. It's worth one ring. If this is the only title that Giannis has won by the time he retires, history will note that he won one ring during his career. Not two, not three, not twelve. One.


And Lebron has 1 ring in 2020 - his other rings were super-team rings and don't count - forming a super-team is a shortcut to achieve Year 1 favorite status (the easiest path possible), so they don't count

[RRR3]

I c-c-can’t stand the fact that LeBron has 4 rings :cry:
Meltdown.


Couldn’t even respond when I caught you red handed.




TISSUE SOFT.

[3ba11]

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pre-Lebron Bosh... 6x all-star
pre-Kobe Pau'....... 1x all-star

2010 Wade... 28 PER... 9 BPM
2010 Kobe.... 21 PER... 4 BPM


^^^ Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, but went 2/4.

Lebron's super-teams from 2011 to 2016 were so unfair, that KD needed to team up with Curry/Klay to supercede them - yet the media says Lebron's colluded rings are legit, but KD's aren't.. This completely ignores that Lebron stacked the deck in the first place...

Ultimately, Lebron's Cavs were the pre-season favorite in 2015 and 2016 because Kyrie/Love were perennial all-stars, while Klay/Dray were 1st-timers.. So Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to underdog or loser every year in the Finals, except the Ray Allen miracle...

[red1]

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pre-Lebron Bosh... 6x all-star
pre-Kobe Pau'....... 1x all-star

2010 Wade... 28 PER... 9 BPM
2010 Kobe.... 21 PER... 4 BPM


^^^ Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, but went 2/4.

Lebron's super-teams from 2011 to 2016 were so unfair, that KD needed to team up with Curry/Klay to supercede them - yet the media says Lebron's colluded rings are legit, but KD's aren't.. This completely ignores that Lebron stacked the deck in the first place...

Ultimately, Lebron's Cavs were the pre-season favorite in 2015 and 2016 because Kyrie/Love were perennial all-stars, while Klay/Dray were 1st-timers.. So Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to underdog or loser every year in the Finals, except the Ray Allen miracle...

copy and pasted in 4 different threads. :oldlol:

[3ba11]

Lebron stacked the deck with super-teams for 6 years (11-16') and KD stacked the deck for 4 years (17', 18', 19', 21'), while Giannis won by not stacking the deck (goat-caliber)

Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, while Durant joined a 1 seed (but not the league favorite - the Cavs were the league favorite until KD joined the Warriors).. Otoh, Giannis started with a 15-win team and persevered until he was champions.

[RRR3]

copy and pasted in 4 different threads. :oldlol:
3melt :oldlol: