Giannis just destroyed LeBron’s entire career and legacy with a single quote

[dreamshake]

After Lebron formed his first super team in 2010 with Miami Heat:

It’s gon be easy

Not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7

After returning to Cleveland to form his second super team:

...and then returned to Cleveland for a new superteam with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love.

After going to LA to form his third super team:

Each time LeBron has won a championship he’s been on a super team!”

Giannis after winning NBA title with Bucks:

“I could go to a superteam, and just do my part to win a championship. But this is the hard way to do it, and we did it.”

https://gfycat.com/calmsorrowfulguineafowl

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jun/05/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-nba-finals

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-basketball-each-time-lebron-james-has-won-a-championship-hes-been-on-a-super-team-former-nba-player-on-los-angeles-lakers-star/amp/

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2021/7/21/22586440/giannis-antetokounmpo-super-teams-quote-call-out-nba-championship-bucks

[8Ball]

The moment you realize Jordan had the only super team in the 90s :lol

[3ba11]

Super-teams have favorite status in Year 1 - they didn't build and earn favorite status over many years like organic teams are required to do

So super-teams are a shortcut and that's why those rings mean literally nothing.. Cheat code victories don't count - everyone knows that

[3ba11]

.

pre-Lebron Bosh... 6x all-star
pre-Kobe Pau'....... 1x all-star

2010 Wade... 28 PER... 9 BPM
2010 Kobe.... 21 PER... 4 BPM


^^^ Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, but went 2/4.

Lebron's super-teams from 2011 to 2016 were so unfair, that KD needed to team up with Curry/Klay to supercede them - yet the media says Lebron's colluded rings are legit, but KD's aren't.. This completely ignores that Lebron stacked the deck in the first place...

Ultimately, Lebron's Cavs were the pre-season favorite in 2015 and 2016 because Kyrie/Love were perennial all-stars, while Klay/Dray were 1st-timers.. So Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to underdog or loser every year in the Finals, except the Ray Allen miracle...

[red1]

.

pre-Lebron Bosh... 6x all-star
pre-Kobe Pau'....... 1x all-star

2010 Wade... 28 PER... 9 BPM
2010 Kobe.... 21 PER... 4 BPM


^^^ Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, but went 2/4.

Lebron's super-teams from 2011 to 2016 were so unfair, that KD needed to team up with Curry/Klay to supercede them - yet the media says Lebron's colluded rings are legit, but KD's aren't.. This completely ignores that Lebron stacked the deck in the first place...

Ultimately, Lebron's Cavs were the pre-season favorite in 2015 and 2016 because Kyrie/Love were perennial all-stars, while Klay/Dray were 1st-timers.. So Lebron hand-picked the preseason favorite from 2011-2016 but fell to underdog or loser every year in the Finals, except the Ray Allen miracle...

pippen carried the bulls to 50+wins without baldan.


if wade and bosh were such a superteam (they weren't) - then why did they struggle so hard without lebron?



baldan's teams were more stacked relative to the competition - not to mention perfect health.

[TheCorporation]

The moment you realize Jordan had the only super team in the 90s :lol

Bang!!!

[dreamshake]

Super-teams have favorite status in Year 1 - they didn't build and earn favorite status over many years like organic teams are required to do

So super-teams are a shortcut and that's why those rings mean literally nothing.. Cheat code victories don't count - everyone knows that

They know

[Spurs m8]

That's our boy!!!!

[dreamshake]

Giannis ain’t holding back. Shots fired lol

[TheMan]

The moment you realize Jordan had the only super team in the 90s :lol

That moment you realize this thread isn't about Jordan but about Giannis and LeBron...

[8Ball]

That moment you realize this thread isn't about Jordan but about Giannis and LeBron...

The moment you realize every LeBron thread is about LeBron vs Jordan. Didn't you get the memo?

[MadDog]

Giannis ain’t holding back. Shots fired lol

When LeBron heard that his gut sank. :oldlol: KD and Harden were put on notice too. Especially Harden. I don't think Giannis likes that dude.

[ImKobe]

Or the fact that Lebron tried to recruit him by inviting him to work out with him in 2018 (knowing that he would be FA soon) and he DENIED his ass and worked out with Kobe instead.

[Gudo]

Or the fact that Lebron tried to recruit him by inviting him to work out with him in 2018 (knowing that he would be FA soon) and he DENIED his ass and worked out with Kobe instead.

:oldlol:

Lebron did try to recruit a host of other stars including Lillard. Imagine the audacity of this player to actively reach out to form superteams. Surely got rejected quite a number of times.

[2much_knowledge]

pippen carried the bulls to 50+wins without baldan.


if wade and bosh were such a superteam (they weren't) - then why did they struggle so hard without lebron?



baldan's teams were more stacked relative to the competition - not to mention perfect health.

Struggle? They won exactly what pre Heat lebron won. NOTHING

[TheMan]

The moment you realize every LeBron thread is about LeBron vs Jordan. Didn't you get the memo?

No, you Bronsexuals push that narrative, unfortunately you're in the decided minority, poll after poll show MJ mollywhupping James in the GOAT debate. Enjoy it while it lasts though, once James is in full on decline, that debate will go the way the Kobe vs MJ "debate" did a decade ago. So have at it while you can, LeFam! :lol

[dreamshake]

When LeBron heard that his gut sank. :oldlol: KD and Harden were put on notice too. Especially Harden. I don't think Giannis likes that dude.

It’s gut check time

[3ba11]

Lebron stacked the deck with super-teams for 6 years (11-16') and KD stacked the deck for 4 years (17', 18', 19', 21'), while Giannis won by not stacking the deck (goat-caliber)

Lebron teamed up with the rich man's version of Kobe-Pau, while Durant joined a 1 seed (but not the league favorite - the Cavs were the league favorite until KD joined the Warriors).. Otoh, Giannis started with a 15-win team and persevered until he was champions.

[dreamshake]

Or the fact that Lebron tried to recruit him by inviting him to work out with him in 2018 (knowing that he would be FA soon) and he DENIED his ass and worked out with Kobe instead.

LeBron James? More like LeBron NoShame :roll:

[dreamshake]

:oldlol:

Lebron did try to recruit a host of other stars including Lillard. Imagine the audacity of this player to actively reach out to form superteams. Surely got rejected quite a number of times.

Pretty pathetic for a self proclaimed chosen one

[kawhileonard2]

:oldlol:

Lebron did try to recruit a host of other stars including Lillard. Imagine the audacity of this player to actively reach out to form superteams. Surely got rejected quite a number of times.

Yep and he is so afraid of Kawhi that he was trying to recruit him.

[Spurs m8]

These playoffs have been an absolute disaster for lebrons legacy lmao

Has a player ever been more exposed in a single playoff run?hahahaha

[dreamshake]

Yep and he is so afraid of Kawhi that he was trying to recruit him.

That begs the question. Is there a superstar player that LeBron has NOT recruited? :roll:

[bullettooth]

:oldlol:

Lebron did try to recruit a host of other stars including Lillard. Imagine the audacity of this player to actively reach out to form superteams. Surely got rejected quite a number of times.

LeBum has ZERO INTEGRITY.

None of his rings count. NONE.

[dreamshake]

These playoffs have been an absolute disaster for lebrons legacy lmao

Has a player ever been more exposed in a single playoff run?hahahaha

:roll: :roll:

[Axe]

The moment you realize Jordan had the only super team in the 90s :lol
Except he didn't hop through other teams but tree trunk pippen had to save his arse.

[Spurs m8]

Except he didn't hop through other teams but tree trunk pippen had to save his arse.

As opposed to -

Wade and Bosh....who then couldn't anymore,

So Kyrie and Love...until Kyrie was like "fvck this clown"

So off he ran again, failed, and so then...

Sucked AD off to be carried again.

Took multiple collusions, multiple bail out shots, lock out seasons, mickey mouse bubbles...how many asterisk can one man have?hahahhah

Not one real or organic ring....hence no respect.

[SATAN]

Wow, owned by Axe. :lol

[Jasper]

Giannis was a quote about himself ... I could go to a super team , and collect rings .... = he did his way organically.

Needs less to say he has a lot of ISH supports because of this.
--just to remind you all the NBA is tough , and for players to coelute is part of the NBA.
Say a couple veterans come on board with the Bucks and become bench players playing roles , would that be coelution ??

[RogueBorg]

:oldlol:

Lebron did try to recruit a host of other stars including Lillard. Imagine the audacity of this player to actively reach out to form superteams. Surely got rejected quite a number of times.

Lebron doesn't want to compete. He looks for the path of least resistance.

[hateraid]

The moment you realize Jordan had the only super team in the 90s :lol

Facts

[tontoz]

Superteams don't get their top 2 players through the draft.

[bullettooth]

Lebron doesn't want to compete. He looks for the path of least resistance.

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

[TheMan]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

:oldlol:

[TheMan]

Superteams don't get their top 2 players through the draft.

The Bulls only "superstar" signing was Rodman, an aging headcase that was acquired through a trade with the Spurs who were so desperate to get rid of him that all it took was Will Purdue. :lol

[Airupthere]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

Lol, LeShortcut. :oldlol:

[dreamshake]

After Lebron formed his first super team in 2010 with Miami Heat:



After returning to Cleveland to form his second super team:


After going to LA to form his third super team:


Giannis after winning NBA title with Bucks:


https://gfycat.com/calmsorrowfulguineafowl

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jun/05/lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers-nba-finals

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nba-news-basketball-each-time-lebron-james-has-won-a-championship-hes-been-on-a-super-team-former-nba-player-on-los-angeles-lakers-star/amp/

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nba/2021/7/21/22586440/giannis-antetokounmpo-super-teams-quote-call-out-nba-championship-bucks

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/08/OoOoo.gif

[ScottieQuitting]

As opposed to -

Wade and Bosh....who then couldn't anymore,

So Kyrie and Love...until Kyrie was like "fvck this clown"

So off he ran again, failed, and so then...

Sucked AD off to be carried again.

Took multiple collusions, multiple bail out shots, lock out seasons, mickey mouse bubbles...how many asterisk can one man have?hahahhah

Not one real or organic ring....hence no respect.

Hot off the presses … BIG FACTS

[tontoz]

The Bulls only "superstar" signing was Rodman, an aging headcase that was acquired through a trade with the Spurs who were so desperate to get rid of him that all it took was Will Purdue. :lol


Yeah Rodman on the Spurs was a disaster. :oldlol:

[dreamshake]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

LeInsecure

[000]

Giannis will never be Lebron until he colludes with Harden and Zion, then gets majorly outplayed by Fred Vanvleet in the NBA Finals.:mad:

[Gudo]

Giannis will never be Lebron until he colludes with Harden and Zion, then gets majorly outplayed by Fred Vanvleet in the NBA Finals.:mad:

Oh shit! :roll:

[RachlNicholsazz]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

Looks like he's driving on a big turd

[Gudo]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

Captured the stupid face and glasses to make him look smart. He should be holding a malcolm x book too. :roll:

[dreamshake]

Captured the stupid face and glasses to make him look smart. He should be holding a malcolm x book too. :roll:

:lebronamazed:

[dreamshake]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yd6rzsD/worksheet-shortcut-keys.jpg

:roll: :roll:

[Spurs m8]

Giannis will never be Lebron until he colludes with Harden and Zion, then gets majorly outplayed by Fred Vanvleet in the NBA Finals.:mad:

:roll:
It's funny because it's actually true.

Using this context on someone else just highlights how insane brons career is.
And not for the right reasons

[Spurs m8]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....

[000]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....

:banana:

[TheMan]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....:biggums:

Bruh, you went in HARD

LeFam on suicide watch :(

[Spurs m8]

:biggums:

Bruh, you went in HARD

LeFam on suicide watch :(

Best part is...everything was just a fact.

We don't need mental gymnastics and lack of context on our side...never have

[TheMan]

Best part is...everything was just a fact.

We don't need mental gymnastics and lack of context on our side...never have
True dat :cheers:

[Axe]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....
Damn what a meltdown this is.

[000]

Damn what a meltdown this is.
If thats a meltdown then Spurs m8 needs to meltdown more often

[Spurs m8]

If thats a meltdown then Spurs m8 needs to meltdown more often

:roll:

Melting down is sharing fun facts, apparently

[000]

:roll:

Melting down is sharing fun facts, apparently

:rockon:

[Airupthere]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....

Summed it all up really well :applause:

[aj1987]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated...

And they know it....

Your miserable pathetic existence is dedicated to hating on LeBron. With literally dozens of alts and hundreds of thousands of posts. That alone speaks volumes. You're melting down over a player who just played his 18th season. :roll: :roll: :roll:

As for the bolded, you do know he was the front runner for MVP before the injury, right? Well, you would, if you could actually wipe those tears away.

[dreamshake]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....

Ether :lebronamazed:

[Shaquille O'Neal]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....

Mic drop moment. All 100% facts. LESPN knows this too. It's over for LeBaldo. The ratings dictate everything.

[SATAN]

It's actually hilarious that these clowns don't realize Giannis respects LeBron a ton. Always has. Non casuals know who this was directed at.

[GOBB]

Kind of lost at the super team thing because you’re implying it’s easier to win a title that way. Yet someone could look at the teams you faced this season and feel you had an easy road to winning a title. You beat an injured Nets team and Durant was close to changing your entire careers narrative if he’s not on the line. I mean I get the super team cries but guys in his position ask for more help because they couldn’t get far in the playoffs.

I don’t look at Lakers bubble title with Bron/AD any different than Bucks title where teams in both conferences were riddled with injuries to main players.

Meanwhile Dame Lillard may not publicly want to say “get me out of here” but privately I’m sure he would love to play with a better team.

[dreamshake]

I've said it before but these playoffs have been nothing short of an absolute disaster for LeBron.

First we saw LeLeader, the worst leader we've seen on court.

- passive aggressive
- game aged like milk, looked dated
- openly annoyed at team mates missing shots
- not running back on D multiple times
- dropping his shoulders
- leaving for the locker with 5 mins left because they were losing
- couldn't come close to winning a game without AD
- first round exit

Then we saw the playoffs thriving without him, everyone was loving it and literally no one outside of the stans was missing him.
In fact, it was actually better, no entitled coward running around.

Then we get an organic ring and the league is reminded how much respect organic rings bring...
Giannis is loved and respected and didn't need to demand his damn respect on a microphone.
He did it on court.

Then Giannis goes and has a swipe at Bron and all the super best friends in the post game press conference...everyone Then respects Giannis even more hahahha

Then to top it off, we see the finals ratings were up 32% because no one cares about Bron and his Mickey ring...lucky the Lakers are a big market...otherwise they probably would have been up at least 50%
And also, people like real sport...not colluding losers.

Is it any wonder Bron stans are flying off the rails at an all time high right now?

Their King is officially decapitated....

And they know it....

The King is dead. Long love the King :bowdown:

[dreamshake]

Best part is...everything was just a fact.

We don't need mental gymnastics and lack of context on our side...never have

Bron stans left clinging onto the imaginary bars of their mental gymnastics :roll:

[bullettooth]

Bron stans left clinging onto the imaginary bars of their mental gymnastics :roll:

https://i.postimg.cc/L64TPVxf/lebron-gymnastics.gif

[Gudo]

The funny thing is, Lebron is probably at home stunned by the amount of respect Giannis is getting, and he is thinking to himself to probably create a bigger superteam that will get him his 5th ring and perhaps he will just have to be more emphatic in pleading for respect. He just can't get it.

[dreamshake]

The funny thing is, Lebron is probably at home stunned by the amount of respect Giannis is getting, and he is thinking to himself to probably create a bigger superteam that will get him his 5th ring and perhaps he will just have to be more emphatic in pleading for respect. He just can't get it.

Probably colluding with Damian Lillard as we speak :roll:

[Spurs m8]

Probably colluding with Damian Lillard as we speak :roll:

On zoom with Dame and Silver

[dreamshake]

https://i.postimg.cc/L64TPVxf/lebron-gymnastics.gif

:roll: :roll:

[Spurs m8]

https://i.postimg.cc/L64TPVxf/lebron-gymnastics.gif

:roll::roll:

[nayte]

https://i.postimg.cc/L64TPVxf/lebron-gymnastics.gif

:roll::roll:

[dreamshake]

bullettooth and Spurs m8 straight slaying in this thread :bowdown:

[kawhileonard2]

bullettooth and Spurs m8 straight slaying in this thread :bowdown:

:applause:

[TheMan]

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[90sgoat]

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[And1AllDay]

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[Mr. Woke]

No he didn't lol.

Giannis doesn't deserve any more respect than any other player who has been a key player on a championship winning team.

LeBron still has a better legacy.

[kawhileonard2]

No he didn't lol.

Giannis doesn't deserve any more respect than any other player who has been a key player on a championship winning team.

LeBron still has a better legacy.

Giannis did it for the franchise that drafted him without having to leave and form multiple super teams.

[FKAri]

Giannis did it for the franchise that drafted him without having to leave and form multiple super teams.

And that somehow makes it better? No reason to reward someone for sitting on his ass. Giannis chose to live with his parents and earn a living wage. Lebron left home, took the hardest road and formed empires. I can see how you would relate more to the former.

[SaintzFury13]

And that somehow makes it better? No reason to reward someone for sitting on his ass. Giannis chose to live with his parents and earn a living wage. Lebron left home, took the hardest road and formed empires. I can see how you would relate more to the former.

LeBron didn't take the hardest road at all.

When he first left Cleveland, all of the big named free agents had signed elsewhere, including his eventual teammates Wade and Bosh. There was nothing left for him in Cleveland that gave him any real opportunity to win a championship. Do I consider Cleveland trading for a superstar caliber player to give to LeBron that very season unlikely? Absolutely not. Cleveland had a ton of trade assets that they could have used to bring in an all star from another team. And it's not like ownership was content with just keeping LeBron. They were just as hungry for a championship as LeBron was. Carmelo Anthony was unhappy in Denver and although he wanted to go to New York, I don't think he would have necessarily been upset with the idea of playing alongside his close friend in Cleveland. LeMarcus Aldridge was a rising star in Portland who would have fit in very nicely with the Cavaliers and the trade assets were absolutely there to bring him in and that was the year Brandon Roy had his injury issues and it was clear Portland wasn't in any position to contend. Andrew Bogut was a defensive monster in Milwaukee, and I'll admit that one is a bit of a stretch because I don't know if they would be willing to give up on him for what Cleveland had to offer, but he makes what is already one of the best defensive teams in the NBA at the time that much better.

But at the end of the day, these are the only real chances LeBron has to win a title unless a big time free agent pops up in the market who is willing to go to Cleveland, and at the time, Cleveland was just not as attractive of a destination as it is now. And there's no guarantee these scenarios play out that way anyways, especially when you consider how in LeBron's seven years with the franchise, they never once managed to do anything of the sort. I am of the opinion that eventually, had LeBron stayed, some big name would have been brought in and LeBron would have finally won a few with them. At that point it's a question of when, not if.

Going to Miami guaranteed LeBron that he already had the teammates to support him when they made it to the finals. But in the end, it came down to him to deliver the great performances we eventually saw to give Miami two rings. It was still a tough road in the end, but by no means was it the toughest road he could have taken.

[tontoz]

And that somehow makes it better? No reason to reward someone for sitting on his ass. Giannis chose to live with his parents and earn a living wage. Lebron left home, took the hardest road and formed empires. I can see how you would relate more to the former.

Giannis was a street vendor in Greece. Milwaukee is a pretty long way from Greece.

[FKAri]

Giannis was a street vendor in Greece. Milwaukee is a pretty long way from Greece.

His lives with his mom in Minneapolis.

Antetokounmpo talked to his mother about what he should do. Veronica Antetokounmpo told her son she enjoyed living in Milwaukee, which was enough for Giannis to make his decision.

“I talked to my mother, asked her, did she want to move? She said, ‘No.’ So I said, ‘OK, cool.
Source: https://www.sportscasting.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-can-thank-his-mom-for-his-228-million-contract/

Literally stayed in his mom's house and all that city loyalty was going out the window if mommy had a rough winter.


(It's incredible how far one can keep a distorted narrative going with "facts", isn't it?)

[RogueBorg]

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[And1AllDay]

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nice :oldlol:

[ScottieQuitting]

I am of the opinion that eventually, had LeBron stayed, some big name would have been brought in
That’s the point. It was panic mode, over kill, instead of patience and loyalty. IE: earned. It would’ve been so much more gratifying for all involved. LeBron included. Was a chicken shit thing to do. Not to mention how his hometown and state got dragged through the mud in the process. Including not letting his very franchise know until the last minute on National TV. No respect. No honor.


Going to Miami guaranteed LeBron that he already had the teammates to support him when they made it to the finals. But in the end, it came down to him to deliver the great performances we eventually saw to give Miami two rings. It was still a tough road in the end, but by no means was it the toughest road he could have taken.
Wasn’t just guaranteed. He thought it per his mouth guaranteed him 7 “it gon be easy” championships.

Isn’t even close to a tough road. Or the toughest. He consolidated his conferences best players. LeBron and Dwyane Wade were the best players in the east. And two of the top three players in the game. Bosh and Dwight were the only other notables in the East. And he got one of them too.

It was a bitch made move.

[Spurs m8]

That’s the point. It was panic mode, over kill, instead of patience and loyalty. IE: earned. It would’ve been so much more gratifying for all involved. LeBron included. Was a chicken shit thing to do. Not to mention how his hometown and state got dragged through the mud in the process. Including not letting his very franchise know until the last minute on National TV. No respect. No honor.


Wasn’t just guaranteed. He thought it per his mouth guaranteed him 7 “it gon be easy” championships.

Isn’t even close to a tough road. Or the toughest. He consolidated his conferences best players. LeBron and Dwyane Wade were the best players in the east. And two of the top three players in the game. Bosh and Dwight were the only other notables in the East. And he got one of them too.

It was a bitch made move.

This.

Can't even be argued

LeBeta

[8Ball]

That’s the point. It was panic mode, over kill, instead of patience and loyalty. IE: earned. It would’ve been so much more gratifying for all involved. LeBron included. Was a chicken shit thing to do. Not to mention how his hometown and state got dragged through the mud in the process. Including not letting his very franchise know until the last minute on National TV. No respect. No honor.


Wasn’t just guaranteed. He thought it per his mouth guaranteed him 7 “it gon be easy” championships.

Isn’t even close to a tough road. Or the toughest. He consolidated his conferences best players. LeBron and Dwyane Wade were the best players in the east. And two of the top three players in the game. Bosh and Dwight were the only other notables in the East. And he got one of them too.

It was a bitch made move.

Wrong.

Only the Jordan stans and Bron haters have a problem with LeBron playing with other good players.

Meanwhile Jordan has the only super team in the 90s.
80s were stacked with superteams.
Shaq had Kobe
Duncan had Parker and Ginobili


If Jordan was so "mentally tough", why didn't he join some lottery team in 1995 like LeBron did in 2014 and 2018?

[Airupthere]

That’s the point. It was panic mode, over kill, instead of patience and loyalty. IE: earned. It would’ve been so much more gratifying for all involved. LeBron included. Was a chicken shit thing to do. Not to mention how his hometown and state got dragged through the mud in the process. Including not letting his very franchise know until the last minute on National TV. No respect. No honor.


Wasn’t just guaranteed. He thought it per his mouth guaranteed him 7 “it gon be easy” championships.

Isn’t even close to a tough road. Or the toughest. He consolidated his conferences best players. LeBron and Dwyane Wade were the best players in the east. And two of the top three players in the game. Bosh and Dwight were the only other notables in the East. And he got one of them too.

It was a bitch made move.

Exactly. Lebron is the only one that has to have stars join him. He can't seem to help his teammates develop. Kobe became great with shaq over time. Pippen likewise with MJ. A lot of players became better playing with Tim, Magic, Bill.

[Manny98]

Giannis
“I could go to a superteam, and just do my part to win a championship. But this is the hard way to do it, and we did it.”


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[3ba11]

If Jordan was so "mentally tough", why didn't he join some lottery team in 1995 like LeBron did in 2014 and 2018?


He built a lottery team into a historic dynasty by 1993, and wanted to return to what he built - unfortunately, Pippen had destroyed what Jordan built - the 95' Bulls were a .500 ballclub before MJ carried them to 13-4 and another 3-peat in his first full seasons back.

[ScottieQuitting]

:oldlol:

Lebron did try to recruit a host of other stars including Lillard. Imagine the audacity of this player to actively reach out to form superteams. Surely got rejected quite a number of times.

I much prefer D-Rose’s take on this issue following the super friends heat.

Local reporters asked him if he was going to recruit? He basically said why? I’m trying to beat them. That’s management job. This whole AAU, best players teaming up culture is really embarrassing for the sport.

The essence of sports IS competition.

And what court do you go play pick up, where the two captains, usually the best players, pick each other to be on each other’s team, and the inferior individual players have to team up to beat them? That makes no sense. Means Nadda.

The best player should want his own team to beat another alpha caliber super star player’s squad. That’s how it was meant to be. Almost like NBA tribal war or samurai type stuff. The fact that you would have to go somewhere else and team up with another superstar, is an obvious optic form of weakness.

It’s basically ceding dominance to someone else. Which isn’t competitive at all. And is ultra pussified, see: LeBron, KD, AD, and Harden now etc.

[3ba11]

I much prefer D-Rose’s take on this issue following the super friends heat.

Local reporters asked him if he was going to recruit? He basically said why? I’m trying to beat them. That’s management job. This whole AAU, best players teaming up culture is really embarrassing for the sport.

The essence of sports IS competition.

And what court do you go play pick up, where the two captains, usually the best players, pick each other to be on each other’s team, and the inferior individual players have to team up to beat them? That makes no sense. Means Nadda.

The best player should want his own team to beat another alpha caliber super star player’s squad. That’s how it was meant to be. Almost like NBA tribal war or samurai type stuff. The fact that you would have to go somewhere else and team up with another superstar, is an obvious optic form of weakness.

It’s basically ceding dominance to someone else. Which isn’t competitive at all. And is ultra pussified, see: LeBron, KD, AD, and Harden now etc.


In previous eras, star players entered the league and it was their job to build a team identity and brand over many years - the Celtics, Sixers, Pistons, Lakers and Bulls all had their own unique team identity and brand - it was fun seeing these brands battle

nowadays, there's no long-term chemistry and team identity - it's just a bunch of all-stars coming together and their short-term mercenary teamwork would get destroyed by the long-term chemistry and organic brands of previous eras - we already see how Lebron's superteams have a lottery record against organic teams like Spurs, Mavs, Warriors.

[ScottieQuitting]

In previous eras, star players entered the league and it was their job to build a team identity and brand over many years - the Celtics, Sixers, Pistons, Lakers and Bulls all had their own unique team identity and brand - it was fun seeing these brands battle

nowadays, there's no long-term chemistry and team identity - it's just a bunch of all-stars coming together and their short-term mercenary teamwork would get destroyed by the long-term chemistry and organic brands of previous eras - we already see how Lebron's superteams have a lottery record against organic teams like Spurs, Mavs, Warriors.

Correct. It’s a microcosm for why all of a sudden when AAU type superstars took a hold of the game, guys who didn’t go to college and learn offenses, not having the ball all the time and structure … started getting beat by international teams, who had way less natural talent, but had far greater teamwork.

And also why like you said, excluding the Kevin Durant Warriors, all those teams had inferior talent to those LeBron teams, yet they all curb stomped his ass. Some of them just chock-full of OLD milkman, science teachers, or whatever racist analogy modern fans want to apply to any white basketball player.

They all beat him.

[Axe]

People tend to overlook that the bucks only won 15 games in yannis's rookie year.

[8Ball]

In previous eras, star players entered the league and it was their job to build a team identity and brand over many years - the Celtics, Sixers, Pistons, Lakers and Bulls all had their own unique team identity and brand - it was fun seeing these brands battle

nowadays, there's no long-term chemistry and team identity - it's just a bunch of all-stars coming together and their short-term mercenary teamwork would get destroyed by the long-term chemistry and organic brands of previous eras - we already see how Lebron's superteams have a lottery record against organic teams like Spurs, Mavs, Warriors.

Wrong.

Star players entered and colluded to join the most stacked teams.


Nowadays players take power from owners and do things their own way. White Supremacists and Uncle Toms like yourself and scottiequitting have problems with it.

[SaintzFury13]

That’s the point. It was panic mode, over kill, instead of patience and loyalty. IE: earned. It would’ve been so much more gratifying for all involved. LeBron included. Was a chicken shit thing to do. Not to mention how his hometown and state got dragged through the mud in the process. Including not letting his very franchise know until the last minute on National TV. No respect. No honor.

Okay? But how long do you draw the line? LeBron knew damn well what that "loyalty" mentality can do to some people's careers. It doesn't always work out that way. Even when Jordan was faltering in the playoffs, Scottie Pippen was still showing signs of being a very special talent. Look how long it took for Dirk to finally win a championship in Dallas. Look how long it took for David Robinson to win a title in San Antonio. Kevin Garnett wasted his best years in Minnesota and never even made it to the finals. Look at the situation Damion Lillard is in now.

Yes, it was cowardly. Yes, there's no guarantee LeBron ends up ringless if he remains in Cleveland. And I to this day contend that if he had stayed in Cleveland, and managed to win a few (because winning one, while a big deal, obviously wouldn't have been enough), he would probably a lot better off with that than where he is now. And keep in mind, where he's at now is already an arguable second greatest of all time platform, but at the same time, that GOAT status, to me at least, is unattainable, not by his actions but by his inability to perform big in the first opportunity he had under a new roof.

And just to put this into perspective, you can't fully blame LeBron for having this mindset. This is a guy who was once still just a teenager in high school who people were already considering the next chosen one, the next successor to Michael Jordan, the man who would bring an end to Cleveland's long championship drought. And hell, he accomplished two of those things, but not necessarily in the fashion he probably wanted. Hell if it were up to him, he probably would've stayed in Cleveland his entire career. Things just don't always work out that way.


Wasn’t just guaranteed. He thought it per his mouth guaranteed him 7 “it gon be easy” championships.

Oh yes, LeBron absolutely deserves shit for that. And frankly, one of the biggest problems I will always have with him is his overall attitude and approach to situations. While he has demonstrated an incredible ability to be a natural leader (like the time he admitted he was wrong after yelling at Mario Chalmers to his face who called him a bitch, a word he has gone on record stating he hates with a burning passion so I imagine that really pissed him off), there have been many, MANY more times where he's acted like a complete diva and demonstrated a complete lack of maturity, sportsmanship and overall lack of respect, most notably when he walked off the floor after the Magic beat his team without congratulating him. Yes, every player needs to start from somewhere. And sometimes, they can start out as an immature punk. Kobe was an absolute prick starting out and by the end of his career became a much more humbled and caring human being. Michael Jordan was arguably the biggest asshole in the NBA who eventually grew to love and respect his teammates more. I'm not going to deny that LeBron grew in some aspects, but when it comes to things such as being a diva and just saying some incredibly idiotic shit, as well as his inability to not say shit that he could very well be forced to walk back on in the future (like finishing out his career in Cleveland, we all know how that turned out), the one thing I will always criticize LeBron for is just the way he acts. Second greatest basketball player of all time in my opinion, but his attitude and approach to the game is WOAT level.


Isn’t even close to a tough road. Or the toughest. He consolidated his conferences best players. LeBron and Dwyane Wade were the best players in the east. And two of the top three players in the game. Bosh and Dwight were the only other notables in the East. And he got one of them too.

It was a bitch made move.

On one hand, yes, he did join up with one of the top three players in the league. On the other hand, you have to once again try to see things from his perspective. Seven years of his life given to a franchise who time and time again let him down. I am never going to give LeBron shit for that. This isn't like what Durant did. Forget the fact that he joined the team who beat him, this was a man who was part of a franchise who did give him the tools to succeed. He had a legitimate all star teammate, they were able to successfully make key moves time and time again that helped make his team better (apart from the James Harden trade which obviously didn't pan out well for them). LeBron didn't have this same luxury. He had to scratch and claw just to make it by with the teammates that he had. He had to beg, time and time again, for his team to make moves on an all star who was on the trading block, and ultimately nothing ever came of it. Jason Kidd, Ray Allen, Amare Stoudimire, guys who Cleveland had opportunities to get either through FA or trades, and they failed to bring them in. Letting Carlos Boozer go when he was a RFA and Cleveland had the finances to keep him in there, and then he goes on to become a two time all star. Thinking that guys like Larry Hughes and Antawn Jaminson were sufficient enough to make Cleveland legitimate title contenders.

I get the argument that what he did was a bitch move. I get the argument that his way of handling his FA destination was both disgusting and a slap in the face to the city of Cleveland. I'm not here to discuss all of this. All I am saying is that when you look at things from his perspective, I honestly don't blame him for deciding that enough was enough and that if Cleveland isn't going to do anything to help him out, why should he continue to help them out?

[kawhileonard2]

And that somehow makes it better? No reason to reward someone for sitting on his ass. Giannis chose to live with his parents and earn a living wage. Lebron left home, took the hardest road and formed empires. I can see how you would relate more to the former.

Lebron took the easy road. He joined Alexander the Great not fault against him.

[kawhileonard2]

Even after Giannis wins Lebron adds more to his cast

[Spurs m8]

Even after Giannis wins Lebron adds more to his cast

Story of his career lmao

And he wonders why he gets no damn respect

Amazing Bron has never done a Giannis even once

Not one single time

[Manny98]

Giannis
“I could go to a superteam, and just do my part to win a championship. But this is the hard way to do it, and we did it.”
This quote hits deep for LeBron stans

Imagine if he stuck it out in Cleveland instead of colluding with Wade and Bosh

Yes he would have won less championships but his championships would have been so much more respected and worth more

[Manny98]

Even after Giannis wins Lebron adds more to his cast
Can't make this up, he goes ahead and adds another superstar

He has no shame

[NBA SHORT'S]

Best of mano Ginobili 🔥🔥
Full video: https://youtu.be/2fNlEoUxxwo

[TheMan]

This quote hits deep for LeBron stans

Imagine if he stuck it out in Cleveland instead of colluding with Wade and Bosh

Yes he would have won less championships but his championships would have been so much more respected and worth more

Lol, what the hell has gotten into you lately? This is what we've been saying all along, glad you finally seen the light, either that or you forgot to switch alts :lol

Also, there isn't no guarantee he would've won less rings had he stayed in Cleveland, I firmly believe they would've attracted some really good players and he would have had at least 3 very respected rings in Cleveland, instead of team hopping and colluding with other All Stars...

[NBAGOAT]

lebron's not winning in cleveland without an all star imo as good as he was, other top teams in the league were too good. We can say they would've attracted good players but I cant even name a big free agent cleveland has signed besides lebron. Lebron wanted bosh to sign cleveland and that wouldnt have been a superteam and could've won a title with some fortune and a good roster around them but Bosh didnt want to play in cleveland. Kyrie was drafted and love was traded for before someone brings that up. Cleveland likely would have to trade for someone but they didnt seem urgent enough(didnt want to give up hickson for stoudemire).

Compare to milwaukee who gave up the farm for jrue without a commitment from giannis and honestly should've gotten bogdan too. Would've been a disaster if giannis left but they knew they had to do something to give giannis some confidence in the franchise.

[SouBeachTalents]

lebron's not winning in cleveland without an all star imo as good as he was, other top teams in the league were too good. We can say they would've attracted good players but I cant even name a big free agent cleveland has signed besides lebron. Lebron wanted bosh to sign cleveland and that wouldnt have been a superteam and could've won a title with some fortune and a good roster around them but Bosh didnt want to play in cleveland. Kyrie was drafted and love was traded for before someone brings that up. Cleveland likely would have to trade for someone but they didnt seem urgent enough(didnt want to give up hickson for stoudemire).

Compare to milwaukee who gave up the farm for jrue without a commitment from giannis and honestly should've gotten bogdan too. Would've been a disaster if giannis left but they knew they had to do something to give giannis some confidence in the franchise.
Exactly. Not to mention this Bucks team blows away any supporting cast LeBron had his first stint in Cleveland. We just saw the Bucks win b2b games to clinch the conference without Giannis, compare that to how the Cavs did the year LeBron left :lol

[DoctorP]

A point for Greece.

[NBAGOAT]

Exactly. Not to mention this Bucks team blows away any supporting cast LeBron had his first stint in Cleveland. We just saw the Bucks win b2b games to clinch the conference without Giannis, compare that to how the Cavs did the year LeBron left :lol

True but not as important if we’re just talking about keeping a star around. Happened the 2nd run too Gilbert wasn’t willing to go all out in a trade without an extension from lebron first when in the current league the organization has to convince the player first. See Milwaukee with Jrue and all the trades morey made for houston as examples of what Cleveland could’ve done.

People forget in 2018 Cleveland’s plan A was sending love for Paul George but Cleveland didn’t want to give up an unprotected pick without commitments from both lebron and George. https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/06/29/report-cavaliers-wouldve-traded-kevin-love-for-paul-george-if-lebron-james-committed-long-term-last-summer/. Likely not beating gs for a title but could’ve definitely convinced lebron to stay

[3ba11]

.
From the legendary SB Nation article on how the Spurs were exploiting the bad fit between Wade/Lebron:



"The Spurs identified bad Heat shooters and left them open for spot-ups by using their defender as the help man on penetration.. This worked well with Wade/Lebron - the Spurs were using Wade/Lebron's defender as the help man when the other drove, thereby forcing them to pass to each other for spot-ups (their weakness)."

https://www.sbnation.com/2013/6/19/4444164/lebron-james-dwyane-wade-heat-spurs-nba-finals-game-6


The Spurs apparently perfected this strategy in the 14' Finals and won by record amount

[eliteballer]

:eek:

[Airupthere]

And what does Lebron do in response to this? Yep, stacking up the deck even more :oldlol:

[kawhileonard2]

And what does Lebron do in response to this? Yep, stacking up the deck even more :oldlol:

Yep!

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron does not want to see this guy again! He could not face him and look a G in his eye �� like Giannis

[Mr. Woke]

Not at all.

Gianni's legacy is small in comparison to King James' legacy.

Plus, I prefer King James as a person.

[kawhileonard2]

Not at all.

Gianni's legacy is small in comparison to King James' legacy.

Plus, I prefer King James as a person.

How is it small when he won for an organization that drafted him without forming a superteam?

[Spurs m8]

How is it small when he won for an organization that drafted him without forming a superteam?

Exactly

Something a certain someone couldn't do.

Found it so hard he literally quit and ran across the country to form a super team

[kawhileonard2]

Exactly

Something a certain someone couldn't do.

Found it so hard he literally quit and ran across the country to form a super team

:cheers:

[Spurs m8]

The Anti-LeBarry is tea bagging LeBarry again

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron even played with guys who won league mvp and scoring title as well as DPOY.

[kawhileonard2]

Imagine Giannis not Making the playoffs with another guy who won league mvp who played at least 60% of the season.

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron had to leave to win which means he has no confidence in himself while Giannis had confidence in himself to win it all.

[Spurs m8]

This will never not be funny lmao

The sheer disrespect from someone who did what LeBarry never could...win organically and get respect

[Mr. Woke]

How is it small when he won for an organization that drafted him without forming a superteam?

It wasn't a strict superteam, but Giannis is an All-Star caliber player and Khris and Jrue are both borderline All-Star caliber players; overall, the Bucks had a deep roster when they won in 2021.

Prior to their championship win, they got lucky that both Harden and Kyrie got injured in the same series in the second round. Then they faced an inferior Hawks team in the Eastern Conference Finals. Later in the Finals, the Suns and the Bucks were pretty evenly matched.

The championship run was good, but it wasn't really that impressive.

[Mr. Woke]

Lebron had to leave to win which means he has no confidence in himself while Giannis had confidence in himself to win it all.

Giannis just got lucky that the stars aligned for him to win a ring in Milwaukee.

LeBron wasn't blessed with that kind of good fortune during his first stint with Cleveland.

It has literally nothing to do with confidence :roll:

[Mr. Woke]

Lol, what the hell has gotten into you lately? This is what we've been saying all along, glad you finally seen the light, either that or you forgot to switch alts :lol

Also, there isn't no guarantee he would've won less rings had he stayed in Cleveland, I firmly believe they would've attracted some really good players and he would have had at least 3 very respected rings in Cleveland, instead of team hopping and colluding with other All Stars...

You are a dumbass punk.

There is no guarantee that he would have ever won a championship in Cleveland if he had decided to stay there.

Going to Miami was the right decision for him at the time.

[Baller789]

You are a dumbass punk.

There is no guarantee that he would have ever won a championship in Cleveland if he had decided to stay there.

Going to Miami was the right decision for him at the time.

So youre saying Lebron wasn't good enough to win a championship with a team that drafted him like Giannis?

[Mr. Woke]

So youre saying Lebron wasn't good enough to win a championship with a team that drafted him like Giannis?

There is only so much that one player can do. After all, teams win championships.

Giannis got lucky that the Bucks front office gave him a strong enough supporting cast (not to mention the Bucks getting a few lucky breaks during the 2021 playoffs).

It's too bad that LeBron wasn't blessed with that kind of good fortune during his first stint with the Cavs.

[Baller789]

There is only so much that one player can do. After all, teams win championships.

Giannis got lucky that the Bucks front office gave him a strong enough supporting cast (not to mention the Bucks getting a few lucky breaks during the 2021 playoffs).

It's too bad that LeBron wasn't blessed with that kind of good fortune during his first stint with the Cavs.

Even if you give Lebron the Bucks team, I doubt he does anything with it. :roll:

[Mr. Woke]

Even if you give Lebron the Bucks team, I doubt he does anything with it. :roll:

LeBron would have won with that supporting cast and those same circumstances.

People like you know nothing about basketball.

[Baller789]

LeBron would have won with that supporting cast and those same circumstances.

People like you know nothing about basketball.

Yeah I know Lebron would have pounded the hell out of the ball, made his 'star' teammates spot up shooters and made them play 4 on 5 on defense.

Anything else?

[Spurs m8]

Even if you give Lebron the Bucks team, I doubt he does anything with it. :roll:

Man he would be Eastern fodder with that team

[Mr. Woke]

Yeah I know Lebron would have pounded the hell out of the ball, made his 'star' teammates spot up shooters and made them play 4 on 5 on defense.

Anything else?

Nope. LeBron would have won a ring.

Giannis should be thanking his lucky stars that his front office has actually given him a great supporting cast.

[NBAGOAT]

Nope. LeBron would have won a ring.

Giannis should be thanking his lucky stars that his front office has actually given him a great supporting cast.

you're overselling it but yea giannis's supporting cast is a bit underrated. He's the MVP guy and khris/jrue are all star guys(idc that jrue didnt make it he was fantastic during the regular season). Lopez is a pretty good 4th guy, not just a role player and most of the teams with a better 4th guy dont have a MVP. Other teams may have an all-nba guy as a 2nd option but dont have a 3rd star or have better depth but not as strong at the top.

On the other hand, khris and jrue are inconsistent as hell in the playoffs.

[Baller789]

Nope. LeBron would have won a ring.

Giannis should be thanking his lucky stars that his front office has actually given him a great supporting cast.

Well he had a decent supporting cast in 2007 right?

[kawhileonard2]

This will never not be funny lmao

The sheer disrespect from someone who did what LeBarry never could...win organically and get respect
Agreed!

[kawhileonard2]

Curry nor Tatum had to leave either

[FKAri]

Destroyed his legacy by calling him the GOAT? How will Lebron recover from this devastating attack?

[TheGoatest]

Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is still the best player in the world

Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is in awe of the fact that Los Angeles Lakers forward LeBron James is still performing at an incredibly high level. James reportedly spends 1.5 million dollars per year to ensure that his body is in tip-top shape, which is something that Giannis made reference to. “It’s interesting to me how LeBron is still one of the best shapes in his life and being the best player in the world and still being in year 18,” Antetokounmpo said. “Like, that’s really interesting. I want to know how he does that. “He’s been consistent for 18 years. He’s always there. He’s always showing up. That’s unbelievable. “He obviously gets credit, but I think we’ve got to give him more credit. Doing it for 18 years guys, that’s hard.
Source: Marca Basket @ amp.marca.com

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-says-lebron-james-170616996.html

:roll: @ the thread backfire

[8Ball]

Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is still the best player in the world

Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is in awe of the fact that Los Angeles Lakers forward LeBron James is still performing at an incredibly high level. James reportedly spends 1.5 million dollars per year to ensure that his body is in tip-top shape, which is something that Giannis made reference to. “It’s interesting to me how LeBron is still one of the best shapes in his life and being the best player in the world and still being in year 18,” Antetokounmpo said. “Like, that’s really interesting. I want to know how he does that. “He’s been consistent for 18 years. He’s always there. He’s always showing up. That’s unbelievable. “He obviously gets credit, but I think we’ve got to give him more credit. Doing it for 18 years guys, that’s hard.
Source: Marca Basket @ amp.marca.com

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-says-lebron-james-170616996.html

:roll: @ the thread backfire

:roll:

Another 1.

[kawhileonard2]

The moment you realize Jordan had the only super team in the 90s :lol

Shaq/Kobe/Jones/Van Exel

Hakeem/Barkley/Drexler

Hakeem/Barkley/Pippen

Magic/Worthy/Divac

Isiah/Dumars/Rodman

Each of them had multiple guys who won league mvp and or finals mvp.

[TheGoatest]

:roll:

Another 1.

OP and his alts ain't gonna like this. :roll:

[SATAN]

Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is still the best player in the world

Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is in awe of the fact that Los Angeles Lakers forward LeBron James is still performing at an incredibly high level. James reportedly spends 1.5 million dollars per year to ensure that his body is in tip-top shape, which is something that Giannis made reference to. “It’s interesting to me how LeBron is still one of the best shapes in his life and being the best player in the world and still being in year 18,” Antetokounmpo said. “Like, that’s really interesting. I want to know how he does that. “He’s been consistent for 18 years. He’s always there. He’s always showing up. That’s unbelievable. “He obviously gets credit, but I think we’ve got to give him more credit. Doing it for 18 years guys, that’s hard.
Source: Marca Basket @ amp.marca.com

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-says-lebron-james-170616996.html

:roll: @ the thread backfire

I strongly agree with Giannis. All lovers of basketball need to give LeBron more credit. Still the best in year 18. Unbelievably high IQ player. There will never be another player as great. We are all witnesses.

[light]

That was a KD attack.

Giannis is huge LeBron fan so he's not attacking his master. Giannis knows that what LeBron did in Los Angeles and Cleveland is the hard way - to go to bad teams and turn them into champions in 2 seasons.

[sdot_thadon]

Guys… 7 years ago I was looking up to LeBron… and be like that’s LeBron, how Jordan was for everyone? For me, that was LeBron

- Giannis Antetokounmpo on the respect & admiration of LeBron James on & off the court

via @MarcaBasket

[SATAN]

LeBron is still out there at age 37 dropping reverse dunks on him so the truthful acknowledgement is hardly surprising, especially from a humble guy like Giannis. :bowdown:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qzl4EAAlFr4

[kawhileonard2]

This will never not be funny lmao

The sheer disrespect from someone who did what LeBarry never could...win organically and get respect

Yep totally true!

[TheMan]

Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is still the best player in the world

Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is in awe of the fact that Los Angeles Lakers forward LeBron James is still performing at an incredibly high level. James reportedly spends 1.5 million dollars per year to ensure that his body is in tip-top shape, which is something that Giannis made reference to. “It’s interesting to me how LeBron is still one of the best shapes in his life and being the best player in the world and still being in year 18,” Antetokounmpo said. “Like, that’s really interesting. I want to know how he does that. “He’s been consistent for 18 years. He’s always there. He’s always showing up. That’s unbelievable. “He obviously gets credit, but I think we’ve got to give him more credit. Doing it for 18 years guys, that’s hard.
Source: Marca Basket @ amp.marca.com

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-says-lebron-james-170616996.html

:roll: @ the thread backfire

Giannis never criticized LeBron's physical fitness, numbnuts. He slammed LBJ, KD, AD, Harden and others whom team up with other stars.

Keep up, moron

[Axe]

Wonder where op has been ever since.

[Spurs m8]

Giannis never criticized LeBron's physical fitness, numbnuts. He slammed LBJ, KD, AD, Harden and others whom team up with other stars.

Keep up, moron

Hes trying to be deceptive and gaslight us...again

We all know giannis took a huge shit on LeBarry

[kawhileonard2]

Hes trying to be deceptive and gaslight us...again

We all know giannis took a huge shit on LeBarry

This!

[kawhileonard2]

Giannis never criticized LeBron's physical fitness, numbnuts. He slammed LBJ, KD, AD, Harden and others whom team up with other stars.

Keep up, moron

He was taking about Lebron

[kawhileonard2]

Wonder where op has been ever since.

They are around

[kawhileonard2]

Jokic going to prove the same as well.

[FultzNationRISE]

Jokic going to prove the same as well.

Can you stop bumping stupid threads like this? It’s really not necessary. Be respectful.

[bdonovan]

Front offices either assemble a super-team or you go off and form your own. You have to choose one of those two or end up like Charles Barkley. As his career proved, and same with Karl Malone, you can't wait too long before you try to do that.

[Iverson3]

4 is better than 1.

[Airupthere]

4 is better than 1.

5'9 is better than 5'2

[BallsOut]

5'9 is better than 5'2

:lebronamazed:

[Hey Yo]

Giannis Antetokounmpo says LeBron James is still the best player in the world

Milwaukee Bucks star Giannis Antetokounmpo is in awe of the fact that Los Angeles Lakers forward LeBron James is still performing at an incredibly high level. James reportedly spends 1.5 million dollars per year to ensure that his body is in tip-top shape, which is something that Giannis made reference to. “It’s interesting to me how LeBron is still one of the best shapes in his life and being the best player in the world and still being in year 18,” Antetokounmpo said. “Like, that’s really interesting. I want to know how he does that. “He’s been consistent for 18 years. He’s always there. He’s always showing up. That’s unbelievable. “He obviously gets credit, but I think we’ve got to give him more credit. Doing it for 18 years guys, that’s hard.
Source: Marca Basket @ amp.marca.com

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-says-lebron-james-170616996.html

:roll: @ the thread backfire

:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed:

[ILLsmak]

Front offices either assemble a super-team or you go off and form your own. You have to choose one of those two or end up like Charles Barkley. As his career proved, and same with Karl Malone, you can't wait too long before you try to do that.

I feel like I've watched enough bball to tell what's gonna happen by watching the beginning of the game. I can even look at box score and imagine what happened IF I am familiar with the players, or in some cases, even without...

HOWEVER, think of all of the guys who won rings who you forget about and then Karl n Charles get brought up as players you will never forget. Why is that? Ringless is always going to dog them, but they have their place.

Some teams just aren't good enough. Some teams play out of their mind, like remm the Spurs team that bodied the Heat? Nobody was thinking that was an all time team until they bodied the Heat.

Dirk got a ring, and had one of the most dominant playoff runs, but if he walks into a room w/ Karl and Chuck, do you think he's like ohhh yeahh, bitches! I mean, his resume is as good as theirs, too, in a lot of cases. MVPs, high on the all time scoring list... nah, those guys are his peers and equals. They will never understand what it's like to win a ring, but like for instance, if JET doesn't come alive in the Finals, they lose.

The idea of superteams is a bit dumb because rarely has there been a super team that fit. The 'old superteams' fit way better, but then you wonder if they were superteams per se. 3 max contract players = super team, to me. So like... Magic, Worthy, Kareem. The actual most-super super team would be TWO (one inside, one outside) stars and role players around them who fit perfectly. And people did build that.

You think Giannis walks into a room with Barkely and Karl without them nudging each other like yea ok if dude is like CHAMMMPIONNN. It's like son you can't even shoot a jumper. Weak era. I don't dislike Giannis, but ehhh. I legit forgot the Warriors won last year because, to me, basketball has only continued to get WORSE after the bubble.

Superteams are a marketing thing. I think most super teams have been unsuccessful. The ones that were had the player who was the best in the NBA at the time (Bron, for instance.) IMO KD on the Warriors was by far the best player in the NBA because... KD on the warriors, holy shit. THAT was a ****ing super team that fit and unfair for everyone.

But yea, these super teams are selling tickets and generating memes. Look at all of the 'super teams' or even star pairings that are absolute fail. It kind of makes you wonder if 'assembling a super team' is a bit overrated.

Some teams are capable of winning rings, and some aren't. If you CAN win rings, you should. It seems, to me, like there was actually a moment in the PHX/CHI series where someone might have thought the Suns could win. It was not like that vs Utah, I'm sorry.

Bill Walton had one of the most amazing runs on a no-name team, and not many people talk or care about that.

LeBron just made an ass out of himself. I wonder if someone told him that all pub is good pub because he really has done some smh level shit in his career, even when he was winning. He could have easily slipped into Mia in a more subtle way, like KD did onto the Wars. JOINING MY BOY WADE OH and look WE GOT BOSH, TOO! But they had to do all that other shit which turned a lot of people off. Def turned me off. I still don't think Bron is clutch or an all time winner. CAMERA ZOOMS IN ON MY FACE!!

rip.

But yea Giannis... heh, def a freak bball player, but not really an all time leader and def not an all time winner. Nobody says JUST ADD GIANNIS AND WE GOOD. I'll put Bron up there, but when we talk about all time, I'm talking about top 5~. Was looking at Wall St Journal and an article title referred to Bron as the GOAT and it's like heh.

Def true tho that people Bron boosted his legacy by doing what he did, and other people have tried to do it... and other than KD, nobody else did it right. And if not for the weird cap increase, KD would not have been there. If there was ever time for a 'basketball reasons' veto, that was it. But props, doesn't put him in top 10 or anything, but he def put himself in the optimal position to succeed, in a way no other player has haha.

edit: holy ****ing shit that post. I need to get paid for this.

-Smak

[BallsOut]

I feel like I've watched enough bball to tell what's gonna happen by watching the beginning of the game. I can even look at box score and imagine what happened IF I am familiar with the players, or in some cases, even without...

HOWEVER, think of all of the guys who won rings who you forget about and then Karl n Charles get brought up as players you will never forget. Why is that? Ringless is always going to dog them, but they have their place.

Some teams just aren't good enough. Some teams play out of their mind, like remm the Spurs team that bodied the Heat? Nobody was thinking that was an all time team until they bodied the Heat.

Dirk got a ring, and had one of the most dominant playoff runs, but if he walks into a room w/ Karl and Chuck, do you think he's like ohhh yeahh, bitches! I mean, his resume is as good as theirs, too, in a lot of cases. MVPs, high on the all time scoring list... nah, those guys are his peers and equals. They will never understand what it's like to win a ring, but like for instance, if JET doesn't come alive in the Finals, they lose.

The idea of superteams is a bit dumb because rarely has there been a super team that fit. The 'old superteams' fit way better, but then you wonder if they were superteams per se. 3 max contract players = super team, to me. So like... Magic, Worthy, Kareem. The actual most-super super team would be TWO (one inside, one outside) stars and role players around them who fit perfectly. And people did build that.

You think Giannis walks into a room with Barkely and Karl without them nudging each other like yea ok if dude is like CHAMMMPIONNN. It's like son you can't even shoot a jumper. Weak era. I don't dislike Giannis, but ehhh. I legit forgot the Warriors won last year because, to me, basketball has only continued to get WORSE after the bubble.

Superteams are a marketing thing. I think most super teams have been unsuccessful. The ones that were had the player who was the best in the NBA at the time (Bron, for instance.) IMO KD on the Warriors was by far the best player in the NBA because... KD on the warriors, holy shit. THAT was a ****ing super team that fit and unfair for everyone.

But yea, these super teams are selling tickets and generating memes. Look at all of the 'super teams' or even star pairings that are absolute fail. It kind of makes you wonder if 'assembling a super team' is a bit overrated.

Some teams are capable of winning rings, and some aren't. If you CAN win rings, you should. It seems, to me, like there was actually a moment in the PHX/CHI series where someone might have thought the Suns could win. It was not like that vs Utah, I'm sorry.

Bill Walton had one of the most amazing runs on a no-name team, and not many people talk or care about that.

LeBron just made an ass out of himself. I wonder if someone told him that all pub is good pub because he really has done some smh level shit in his career, even when he was winning. He could have easily slipped into Mia in a more subtle way, like KD did onto the Wars. JOINING MY BOY WADE OH and look WE GOT BOSH, TOO! But they had to do all that other shit which turned a lot of people off. Def turned me off. I still don't think Bron is clutch or an all time winner. CAMERA ZOOMS IN ON MY FACE!!

rip.

But yea Giannis... heh, def a freak bball player, but not really an all time leader and def not an all time winner. Nobody says JUST ADD GIANNIS AND WE GOOD. I'll put Bron up there, but when we talk about all time, I'm talking about top 5~. Was looking at Wall St Journal and an article title referred to Bron as the GOAT and it's like heh.

Def true tho that people Bron boosted his legacy by doing what he did, and other people have tried to do it... and other than KD, nobody else did it right. And if not for the weird cap increase, KD would not have been there. If there was ever time for a 'basketball reasons' veto, that was it. But props, doesn't put him in top 10 or anything, but he def put himself in the optimal position to succeed, in a way no other player has haha.

edit: holy ****ing shit that post. I need to get paid for this.

-Smak

Good post. Real recognize real.

[Spurs m8]

Whether Jokic or Butler get the ring, either will have a more impressive ring than ANY of LeNeedsALotOfPrimeHelps weak rings

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

Every other thread on ish is about Lebron. LeStans we get it, he is GOAT. LeMentals we get it, he isnt top 15. Theres 5x more LeHater threads then there are pro Lebron threads and it shows the insecurity.

Talking about a hobbling 1 legged, soon to be 39yr old, $1billion+ net worth basketball player 24/7 not going to make you rich.

[Axe]

Every other thread on ish is about Lebron. LeStans we get it, he is GOAT. LeMentals we get it, he isnt top 15. Theres 5x more LeHater threads then there are pro Lebron threads and it shows the insecurity.

Talking about a hobbling 1 legged, soon to be 39yr old, $1billion+ net worth basketball player 24/7 not going to make you rich.
This. It's always about him every single damn day.

[lxlHoTsAuSelxl]

This. It's always about him every single damn day.

Log into ish trying to stay updated with whats going on in the NBA, rumors, just in general normal basketball related discussions. Instead it's two new non-Bron related threads and 10 bumped LeMental threads. Once the finals over, wont bother with ish.

[BallsOut]

Whether Jokic or Butler get the ring, either will have a more impressive ring than ANY of LeNeedsALotOfPrimeHelps weak rings

:applause:

[kawhileonard2]

:applause:

Yep Lebron left to stack the deck they didn’t.

[Johnny32]

Update

"At the end of the day, being a winner, it's over that goal," Antetokounmpo told The Times. "Winning a championship comes first. I don't want to be 20 years on the same team and don't win another championship."

[Full Court]

Update.

Giannis won a championship WITHOUT team hopping. Something Lebron was never able to do.

[aj1987]

Yep Lebron left to stack the deck they didn’t.

And how has Kawhi been doing over the past 3 seasons?

[kawhileonard2]

Kawhi won for the franchise that drafted him without leaving. Lebron left to win. Jokic stayed and Giannis.

[kawhileonard2]

Giannis really laid into Lebron here some facts!

[kawhileonard2]

Update.

Giannis won a championship WITHOUT team hopping. Something Lebron was never able to do.

True!