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TheCorporation
07-21-2021, 05:01 PM
How much would he score in that MJ/Iverson type of role?

45 a night?
50 a night?

What if he was being guardes by John Starks too? :lol Or Jeff Hornacek?

55 a night?

And1AllDay
07-21-2021, 11:00 PM
if you stick giannis in the 90s against jon starks with illegal double teams and all giannis has to do is score??????????????

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid that bois hanging 55 every single night like wilt

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgBaUCoP4E3PvxBcrx/giphy.gif

3ba11
07-21-2021, 11:02 PM
Finals

Jordan.... 33.6 and 6.0 apg
Pippen.... 19.0 and 5.9 apg


And that includes Pippen shooting 45% true shooting in the 93' Finals and 17.6 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs..

Giannis might be able to win with Pippen because Giannis is a great player, but Lebron never won with sidekicks performing like that in the Finals.

MadDog
07-21-2021, 11:03 PM
Finals

Jordan.... 33.6 and 6.0 apg
Pippen.... 19.0 and 5.9 apg


And that includes Pippen shooting 45% true shooting in the 93' Finals and 17 on 41% for the entire 95-98' Playoffs..

Giannis might be able to win with Pippen because Giannis is a great player, but Lebron never won with sidekicks performing like that in the Finals.

Lol damn. Another LeBron topic in shambles.

HunterSThompson
07-21-2021, 11:05 PM
OP just convinced me that giannis is lebron without the collusions and team hopping or bail outs

damn.. gotta redo my top 10.. brb

And1AllDay
07-21-2021, 11:07 PM
Finals

Jordan.... 33.6 and 6.0 apg
Pippen.... 19.0 and 5.9 apg


And that includes Pippen shooting 45% true shooting in the 93' Finals and 17.6 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs..

Giannis might be able to win with Pippen because Giannis is a great player, but Lebron never won with sidekicks performing like that in the Finals.

why repost the same bull crap when i got more hits waiting for you

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HunterSThompson
07-21-2021, 11:20 PM
why repost the same bull crap when i got more hits waiting for you

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when I troll I usually go with criteria and agendas that real world people use. I don't think in all my years attacking Jordan back in the day when kobe was still going after 6 rings did I ever try and make the argument that pippen was better or more valuable than Jordan. it's almost like a waste of time. only message board trolls would even entertain the subject. and 3ball actually falls for a lot of this dumb sh*t. it really just shows the IQ of this place

maybe this is why I keep leaving for years at a time


if you wanna attack Jordan say "my guy will win 6 or more and that's all it should take to be in the conversation. not some rebounds or assists.. jesus you guys are always busting prematurely on here..


"KANG GOAT...cuz....ummm....pippen had more rebounds!!!!

lol you guys are legit delusional f*ggots

3ba11
07-21-2021, 11:22 PM
when I troll I usually go with criteria and agendas that real world people use. I don't think in all my years attacking Jordan back in the day when kobe was still going after 6 rings did I ever try and make the argument that pippen was better or more valuable than Jordan. it's almost like a waste of time. only message board trolls would even entertain the subject. and 3ball actually falls for a lot of this dumb sh*t. it really just shows the IQ of this place

maybe this is why I keep leaving for years at a time


if you wanna attack Jordan say "my guy will win 6 or more and that's all it should take to be in the conversation. not some rebounds or assists.. jesus you guys are always busting prematurely on here..


"KANG GOAT...cuz....ummm....pippen had more rebounds!!!!

lol you guys are legit delusional f*ggots


I respond to And1 because he gives me action.... I'm an action junkie and sometimes, he's the only one giving me any... So I'll take it and go back and forth with it, no problem.

But I should probably stop encouraging him to post that silly chart showing that Pippen and Jordan split the steals, blocks and assist duties, while Jordan carried the scoring (carry-job).

Spurs m8
07-21-2021, 11:26 PM
This guy is fuming Giannis is getting that Mike respect that Bron never got

Both got that DPOY as well.

Real winners at both ends of the floor and no collusion

Bron couldn't do either lol

kawhileonard2
07-21-2021, 11:29 PM
This guy is fuming Giannis is getting that Mike respect that Bron never got

Both got that DPOY as well.

Real winners at both ends of the floor and no collusion

Bron couldn't do either lol

Yep. Also Giannis lost two series with HCA, Lebron lost 3 in a row (also two bronze medals). MJ never lost a series with HCA and MJ never won bronze medal for America.

Hey Yo
07-21-2021, 11:32 PM
OP just convinced me that giannis is lebron without the collusions and team hopping or bail outs

damn.. gotta redo my top 10.. brb

Kobe team hopped before he was even drafted. He bailed on NJ.

3ba11
07-21-2021, 11:34 PM
Pippen averaged 15.7 and 4.8 assists in the 98' Finals (defensive role player), so individual assists mean nothing and high apg almost never wins unless you have kareem

How many rings does Lebron win with his sidekick playing like that in the Finals?

bullettooth
07-21-2021, 11:38 PM
Is this how LeBron fangirls cope with 6 finals losses?

3ba11
07-21-2021, 11:42 PM
Is this how LeBron fangirls cope with 6 finals losses?


It's crazy because if you replace Lebron with Jordan, he'd have 10 rings... 10/10... that's what super-teams would do for Jordan... No need to develop teammates and championship strategy/brand - just team-up with the best players in the league and be Year 1 favorites.

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:04 AM
when I troll I usually go with criteria and agendas that real world people use. I don't think in all my years attacking Jordan back in the day when kobe was still going after 6 rings did I ever try and make the argument that pippen was better or more valuable than Jordan. it's almost like a waste of time. only message board trolls would even entertain the subject. and 3ball actually falls for a lot of this dumb sh*t. it really just shows the IQ of this place

maybe this is why I keep leaving for years at a time


if you wanna attack Jordan say "my guy will win 6 or more and that's all it should take to be in the conversation. not some rebounds or assists.. jesus you guys are always busting prematurely on here..


"KANG GOAT...cuz....ummm....pippen had more rebounds!!!!

lol you guys are legit delusional f*ggots

meltdown kenn

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:05 AM
This guy is fuming Giannis is getting that Mike respect that Bron never got

Both got that DPOY as well.

Real winners at both ends of the floor and no collusion

Bron couldn't do either lol

legiannis fam livin good m8 :oldlol:

Spurs m8
07-22-2021, 02:34 AM
Is this how LeBron fangirls cope with 6 finals losses?

These guys are gonna be in their 50s still doing mental gymnastics to prop him up

Meanwhile there'll be literally nothing else propping him up and he'll be sitting outside the top 20

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 02:50 AM
These guys are gonna be in their 50s still doing mental gymnastics to prop him up

Meanwhile there'll be literally nothing else propping him up and he'll be sitting outside the top 20

first 7,631

good luck :oldlol:

And1AllDay
07-23-2021, 05:49 PM
if you stick giannis in the 90s against jon starks with illegal double teams and all giannis has to do is score??????????????

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid that bois hanging 55 every single night like wilt

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgBaUCoP4E3PvxBcrx/giphy.gif

guys?

97 bulls
07-23-2021, 07:11 PM
when I troll I usually go with criteria and agendas that real world people use. I don't think in all my years attacking Jordan back in the day when kobe was still going after 6 rings did I ever try and make the argument that pippen was better or more valuable than Jordan. it's almost like a waste of time. only message board trolls would even entertain the subject. and 3ball actually falls for a lot of this dumb sh*t. it really just shows the IQ of this place

maybe this is why I keep leaving for years at a time


if you wanna attack Jordan say "my guy will win 6 or more and that's all it should take to be in the conversation. not some rebounds or assists.. jesus you guys are always busting prematurely on here..


"KANG GOAT...cuz....ummm....pippen had more rebounds!!!!

lol you guys are legit delusional f*ggots

That's not what the argument is. Jordan stans stans are literally calling Pippen a scrub. That any run of the mill player would have been more than a sufficient replacement for Pippen. That's why you get that stat comparison.

The truth is that Jordan stans are the unreasonable ones.

97 bulls
07-23-2021, 07:14 PM
It's crazy because if you replace Lebron with Jordan, he'd have 10 rings... 10/10... that's what super-teams would do for Jordan... No need to develop teammates and championship strategy/brand - just team-up with the best players in the league and be Year 1 favorites.

But that's the thing bro. Jordan developed it with the rest of the team. Just about all of what you saybis either untrue or intellectualy dishonest.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
07-23-2021, 07:34 PM
That's not what the argument is. Jordan stans stans are literally calling Pippen a scrub. That any run of the mill player would have been more than a sufficient replacement for Pippen. That's why you get that stat comparison.

The truth is that Jordan stans are the unreasonable ones.

I don't know about stans, but Jordan fans dont call Pippen a 'scrub'.

That's goofy.

At some point you have to stop equating everyone with 3ball. Last time I checked, didn't you have Pippen over Bird as a player? Not trying to clown, but chill on the 'reasonable' talk. :lol

97 bulls
07-23-2021, 07:48 PM
I don't know about stans, but Jordan fans dont call Pippen a 'scrub'.

That's goofy.

At some point you have to stop equating everyone with 3ball. Last time I checked, didn't you have Pippen over Bird as a player? Not trying to clown, but chill on the 'reasonable' talk. :lol

No, I said they played to a standstil head to head. When they both were on similar levels.

But I'm not directing my comment at 3ball. I was directing it to Huntersthompson.

And1AllDay
07-27-2021, 10:59 PM
if you stick giannis in the 90s against jon starks with illegal double teams and all giannis has to do is score??????????????

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid that bois hanging 55 every single night like wilt

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgBaUCoP4E3PvxBcrx/giphy.gif

guys

3ba11
07-27-2021, 11:11 PM
if you stick giannis in the 90s against jon starks with illegal double teams and all giannis has to do is score??????????????

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid that bois hanging 55 every single night like wilt


guys


It's a fact that today's spacing and open paint allowed Giannis to have zero help defenders on nearly half his drives:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9jtOOQ43yw4&t=05m42s


So he wouldn't be as good against the packed paints of previous eras (no teammates spacing the floor), where great shooting was required to shoot over defenses/packed paints, like the gifs below:



https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6ozo2gsUnmBUtTd6/giphy.gif

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/dzzsgE.gif

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http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/7-13-2015/kZeK3Z.gif


Btw, this is the same reason Lebron wouldn't be nearly as good on previous eras (no teamnates spacing the floor to benefit his penetration/ball-domination

3ba11
07-27-2021, 11:15 PM
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98' Finals.... 82 pace... 105 DRTG... 34 ppg for Jordan (38% of team pts)
21' Finals.... 96 pace... 115 DRTG... 35 ppg for Giannis (31% of team pts)


Jordan averaged 39 ppg pace-adjusted

kawhileonard2
07-27-2021, 11:23 PM
legiannis fam livin good m8 :oldlol:

How so he has 2 bronze medals in basketball. Pathetic.

Airupthere
07-27-2021, 11:26 PM
I understand the dilemma. The sun is setting and the bronstans need to make that transition now to giannis. Lol. Giannis has my respect, not lebron.

3ba11
07-27-2021, 11:30 PM
I understand the dilemma. The sun is setting and the bronstans need to make that transition now to giannis. Lol. Giannis has my respect, not lebron.


Agreed... I have a lot of respect for Giannis... If he 3-peats, maybe he can get as good as Jordan in the process.

And1AllDay
07-27-2021, 11:51 PM
Agreed... I have a lot of respect for Giannis... If he 3-peats, maybe he can get as good as Jordan in the process.

legiannis fam stays winning

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgBaUCoP4E3PvxBcrx/giphy.gif


full quotes only dont be a bitch and skip gifs

Airupthere
07-28-2021, 09:06 AM
legiannis fam stays winning

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgBaUCoP4E3PvxBcrx/giphy.gif


full quotes only dont be a bitch and skip gifs

The bran fam jumping ship to giannis as quickly and conveniently as lebron does from one team to another. :oldlol:

And1AllDay
07-28-2021, 12:51 PM
The bran fam jumping ship to giannis as quickly and conveniently as lebron does from one team to another. :oldlol:

legiannis fam eatin good we getting chubby