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And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:06 PM
2-way leader fmvp conditions

-win finals mvp

lead team in both playoff categories:

- scoring, ppg (offensive leader)

- defense, def rating (defensive anchor)


the elite fmvp winners are

21' giannis
16' bran
12' bran
05' duncan
03' duncan
02' shaq
95' hakeem
94' hakeem


*mike never led hos team in def rtg it was always pippen so he has zero 2way leader rings


giannis did the unthinkable and joined the elite 2way players of nba history


Bran, duncan, shaq, hakeem, and now giannis


what a time bois, congrats to giannis for entering the club


bran 2x

duncan 2x

hakeem 2x

shaq 1x

giannis 1x

MadDog
07-22-2021, 12:23 PM
DRTG is a flawed way to measure individual defense. But since you used it, LeBron's 12/13/16 finals DRTG was never tops. In the 12 finals, he tied with Bosh and Wade. And in the 13/16 finals, Bosh/Mozgov/Birdman all had higher def ratings. Anchor doe :oldlol:

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:26 PM
DRTG is a flawed way to measure individual defense. But since you used it, LeBron's 12/13/16 finals DRTG was never tops. In the 12 finals, he tied with Bosh and Wade. And in the 13/16 finals, Bosh/Mozgov/Birdman all had higher def ratings. Anchor doe :oldlol:

wrong :oldlol:

12' playoffs, bran had 99 def rtg (team leader)
16' playoffs, bran had 100 def rtg (team leader)

fax = mike had zero

MadDog
07-22-2021, 12:28 PM
wrong :oldlol:

12' playoffs, bran had 99 def rtg (team leader)
16' playoffs, bran had 100 def rtg (team leader)

fax = mike had zero

Your title says "Finals MVP" 2-way play. You don't win FMVP anywhere other than the finals. And in those series, LeBron never anchored shit. :oldlol:

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:30 PM
Your title says "Finals MVP" 2-way play. You can only win one in the finals. And in those series, LeBron never anchored shit. Clown :oldlol:

fuming :oldlol:

bran led his team as elite 2way player for 2 titles

2012 playoff ppg leader, playoff def rtg leader
2016 playoff ppg leader, playoff def rtg leader

mike did this
zero :(

HunterSThompson
07-22-2021, 12:30 PM
the word anchor is associated with bigs and stopper is associated with guards

kobe was the best defender on his 2009 and 2010 teams. his defense and rebounding is actually what saved the Lakers in game 7 vs Boston. he shot bad but he held pierce and Allen to 8 for 30 or something while grabbing 15 rebounds.

kobe always had to guard the top scorers throughout his finals career except for 2009


this anchor sh*t is honestly becoming overrated. MJ and pippen anchored their defense as stoppers. Rodman was honestly just out there for rebounding and blocking out. he wasn't stopping anyone from.scoring most nights.


and I posted the shooting percentages before of who they defended. all of kobes opponents shot 35 to 40%.. all of lebrons opponents shot 50 to 55%.. how is that anchoring a defense

MadDog
07-22-2021, 12:32 PM
fuming :oldlol:

bran led his team as elite 2way player for 2 titles

2012 playoff ppg leader, playoff def rtg leader
2016 playoff ppg leader, playoff def rtg leader

mike did this
zero :(

Not in the finals he didn't. Which is where you win FMVP. Lol not my fault English is your second language :confusedshrug:

HunterSThompson
07-22-2021, 12:33 PM
Kobe:

reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's ( finals MVP )
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's


https://i.redd.it/fkxo4aq7glc61.gif


Lebron

Parker - 53% ( finals MVP )
Terry - 50%
Marion - 48%
Dirk - 42% ( finals MVP )
Durant - 55%
Kawhi - 51% 2013
Diaw - 50%
Kawhi - 61% 2014 ( finals MVP )
Manu - 50%
Iguodala - 52% ( finals MVP )
Green - 49% ( should be finals MVP. thanks silver ) 2016
Durant - 56% ( finals MVP ) 2017
Iguodala - 53%
Durant - 53% ( finals MVP ) 2018
Green - 52% 2018
Iguodala - 58% 2018
Butler - 55%


https://media1.tenor.com/images/6f4ce6161f043dc29b844f8e630018ff/tenor.gif?itemid=16383014




what an amazing defensive anchor lebron was

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:35 PM
Not in the finals he didn't. Which is where you win FMVP. Lol not my fault English is your second language :confusedshrug:

dumb :oldlol: i can spell it s l o w l y for you then

in playoff runs to fmvp bran led his team in def rtg for 2 chips as top ppg scorer (2way player)

12'
16'

mike well, uh, mike.couldnt do this only elite 2 ways can like

giannis, bran, hakeem, shaq , duncan

got it? :oldlol:

warriorfan
07-22-2021, 12:38 PM
Op alternates between this account, elitepower23, and TheCoperation while spamming this low iq garbage literally all day.

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:40 PM
Op alternates between this account, elitepower23, and TheCoperation while spamming this low iq garbage literally all day.

https://i.postimg.cc/D0bjkpNF/fgfgfghfghcfgh.jpg


https://i.postimg.cc/wMJB1NnJ/Are-You-Okay.jpg

MadDog
07-22-2021, 12:42 PM
dumb :oldlol: i can spell it s l o w l y for you then

in playoff runs to fmvp bran led his team in def rtg for 2 chips as top ppg scorer (2way player)

12'
16'

mike well, uh, mike.couldnt do this only elite 2 ways can like

giannis, bran, hakeem, shaq , duncan

got it? :oldlol:

So LeBron "anchored a defense" except when it mattered. AKA the finals. Tell us more, brainiac. :oldlol:


Op alternates between this account, elitepower23, and TheCoperation while spamming this low iq garbage literally all day.

OP is all those guys? Lmao

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 12:44 PM
So LeBron "anchored a defense" except when it mattered. AKA the finals. Tell us more, brainiac. :oldlol:



OP is all those guys? Lmao

he led the full playoffs :oldlol: the whole thing.

im everyone dont you know :oldlol:

000
07-22-2021, 02:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4nQlShRLbE

And1AllDay
07-22-2021, 02:58 PM
.
thread cliffs

in playoff runs that lead to a fmvp bran led his team in def rtg for 2 chips as the also top ppg scorer (elite 2way player)

12'
16'

mike couldnt do this becos only elite 2 ways can:

giannis, bran, hakeem, shaq , duncan

000
07-22-2021, 03:05 PM
.
thread cliffs

in playoff runs that lead to a fmvp bran led his team in def rtg for 2 chips as the also top ppg scorer (elite 2way player)

12'
16'

mike couldnt do this becos only elite 2 ways can:

giannis, bran, hakeem, shaq , duncan
The key is, can he stop Jason Terry?