Stats when Kawhi was guarding Luka and Giannis in playoffs

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Games 1-3 Mavs ORTG, Luka + Kawhi ON (Kawhi doesn't guard Luka): 131
Games 4-7 Mavs ORTG, Luka + Kawhi ON (Kawhi as primary defender): 109

Games 1-2 Bucks ORTG, Giannis + Kawhi ON (Kawhi doesn't guard Giannis): 116
Games 3-6 Bucks ORTG, Giannis + Kawhi ON (Kawhi as primary defender): 100

The media hypes Giannis\Luka but they aint shit compared to goat kawhi, remember that.

[1987_Lakers]

- Blew a 3-1 lead and shot 6 of 22 in a do or die game 7
- His teams are usually still good without him
- Injury prone

[8Ball]

- Blew a 3-1 lead and shot 6 of 22 in a do or die game 7
- His teams are usually still good without him
- Injury prone

Kawhi never played on a non stacked team ever in his career. Not 1 year.

[StrongLurk]

OP is a massive, pride-less beta.

[tontoz]

Kawhi is out for awhile so maybe this troll won't be spamming the board as often.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

- Blew a 3-1 lead and shot 6 of 22 in a do or die game 7
- His teams are usually still good without him
- Injury prone

3-1 lead was in the bubble though, most guys were begging to get out of there. In fact, shams reported that the clippers\lakers both voted to leave the bubble like a week prior.

injury prone but if you compare him to guys like Shaq\Duncan at age 29, he still has more career VORP. So what does that say about those guys? He had 1 injury this year and the 2017 was Durant\Zaza stepping on his legs.

Teams are usually good without him, lets see:

Raptors in 2021 - Record: 27-45, 12th in NBA Eastern Conference

Spurs haven't made the playoffs in 2 years

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi never played on a non stacked team ever in his career. Not 1 year.

You have the opposite of the truth. He actually has never played on a stacked team before, not one top 30 alltime great in his prime has ever been on his team.

Won the title with lowry who never even made a 2nd team all nba hahahahaa and shut down the guy in your avatar while doing so

[HBK_Kliq_2]

OP is a massive, pride-less beta.

You hype up durant who has now choked a 3-1 lead and a 2-0 lead in his last two playoff runs without the warriors.

[Spurs m8]

No one cares.....see the shell of Kawhi in 2023

[1987_Lakers]

You have the opposite of the truth. He actually has never played on a stacked team before, not one top 30 alltime great in his prime has ever been on his team.

Won the title with lowry who never even made a 2nd team all nba hahahahaa and shut down the guy in your avatar while doing so

- That same Raptors team had the 2nd best record in the NBA without him in 2020
- Clippers went 2-0 against Utah without him and clinched the WCF
- Spurs went 50-16 in 2012 with rookie Kawhi averaging 8 ppg
- Kawhi won Finals MVP in 2014 averaging 17.8 ppg, showing you how stacked the Spurs were, outscored by Tony Parker as well.

[tontoz]

You have the opposite of the truth. He actually has never played on a stacked team before, not one top 30 alltime great in his prime has ever been on his team.

Won the title with lowry who never even made a 2nd team all nba hahahahaa and shut down the guy in your avatar while doing so

The Spurs won 61 games in the 2010/11 season, then they drafted Kawhi that summer.

The Raps won 59 games the year before they traded for Kawhi.

The Clippers won 49 games the year before Kawhi/PG13 got there.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

- That same Raptors team had the 2nd best record in the NBA without him in 2020
- Clippers went 2-0 against Utah without him and clinched the WCF
- Spurs went 50-16 in 2012 with rookie Kawhi averaging 8 ppg
- Kawhi won Finals MVP in 2014 averaging 17.8 ppg, showing you how stacked the Spurs were, outscored by Tony Parker as well.

- That same raptors core Lowry\Vanvleet\Siakam couldn't even make the play in tournament in the terrible east conference. You know how embarrassing you have to be to miss the play in tourny in the east? even teams like the pacers did it.

- Utah was without Conley in one of those games, Mann got hot for 1 game but Conley still could barely move in game 6. They also lost to Suns when Chris Paul wasn't even playing in games 1\2

- spurs had good regular season success but the year prior to drafting kawhi (2011), they got eliminated in the 1st round by an 8th seed

- 2014 spurs were a good team but they were old all guys and kawhi was the clear cut best overall player, especially in the finals

[HBK_Kliq_2]

The Spurs won 61 games in the 2010/11 season, then they drafted Kawhi that summer.

The Raps won 59 games the year before they traded for Kawhi.

The Clippers won 49 games the year before Kawhi/PG13 got there.

Spurs were eliminated in the 1st round by an 8th seed in the year before they drafted Kawhi

Raptors got swept in the 2nd round and fired their coach

Clippers lost Tobias Harris who was averaging 21PPG and been playing like a boarderline allstar in the 2021 season

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Kawhi has the greatest short playoff runs in nba history (2017, 2021)

Kawhi has locked down the best players in this era (Lebron, Giannis, Luka)

Kawhi has the greatest finals MVPS in nba history (stopping two different 3 peats and eliminating Curry\Lebron)

Kawhi also has the greatest regular season success (led 7 different teams in VORP that were top 3 in SRS)

[Ghost1]

https://i.postimg.cc/brGS2js7/tzhthteh.png

luka looks like ivan drago

[HBK_Kliq_2]

https://i.postimg.cc/brGS2js7/tzhthteh.png

luka looks like ivan drago

only time he can advance is when kawhi isn't on the other team

[Bronbron23]

The media hypes Giannis\Luka but they aint shit compared to goat kawhi, remember that.

Well kawhi defends everyone well. He did the same to bron in 14 finals when gaurding him. He's a great defender. Dosn't necessarily mean he's better. Player a could get the better of player b consistently but player b could get the better of the rest of the league.

[8Ball]

You have the opposite of the truth. He actually has never played on a stacked team before, not one top 30 alltime great in his prime has ever been on his team.

Won the title with lowry who never even made a 2nd team all nba hahahahaa and shut down the guy in your avatar while doing so

Tim Duncan made all nba 1st team in 2013 and all defensive 2nd team in 2013. So he played with Tim Duncan that was top 5 player at the time.

Raptors won 59 games in 2018 and was on a 60 win pace in 2020 without Kawhi.

[tpols]

Even more proof this year is one of the biggest asterisks ever. Nets, Clippers, and Lakers all lost superstars. There's never been a year where top 3 contenders all lost a superstar to injury. What's hilarious is clowns thinking this run is proof of anything.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Well kawhi defends everyone well. He did the same to bron in 14 finals when gaurding him. He's a great defender. Dosn't necessarily mean he's better. Player a could get the better of player b consistently but player b could get the better of the rest of the league.

but kawhi's 2019 playoff run is still better then any lebron playoff run, by far.

Better shooter, scorer, defender

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Tim Duncan made all nba 1st team in 2013 and all defensive 2nd team in 2013. So he played with Tim Duncan that was top 5 player at the time.

Raptors won 59 games in 2018 and was on a 60 win pace in 2020 without Kawhi.

If tim duncan was a top 5 player in 2013 and kawhi is still leading them in VORP during their finals run, what does make Kawhi? top 2?

Grandpa Duncan in the 2010's was getting eliminated by 8th seeds in the 1st round, here's his playoff advanced stats in the 2010's:

3.3 BPM, 16% win share, inefficient 54% TS

role player numbers pretty much

Duncan in the 2010s also missed more all nba teams then he made, if you love all nba teams so much. He couldn't even make the all nba 3rd team during the 2014 title season.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Even more proof this year is one of the biggest asterisks ever. Nets, Clippers, and Lakers all lost superstars. There's never been a year where top 3 contenders all lost a superstar to injury. What's hilarious is clowns thinking this run is proof of anything.

exactly. Kawhi would of ripped Giannis teeth out in the finals.

[K Xerxes]

Stats when Kawhi is up 3-1 in the WCF against the Nuggets:

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[Bronbron23]

but kawhi's 2019 playoff run is still better then any lebron playoff run, by far.

Better shooter, scorer, defender

Was it though? Defense for sure but was it better than brons best offensively? I have hard time believing that.

[aj1987]

but kawhi's 2019 playoff run is still better then any lebron playoff run, by far.

Better shooter, scorer, defender

That would literally mean this run is 10x better than any of Kawhi's run and arguably a top 2-3 GOAT level Championship run. Is that what you're saying?

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Stats when Kawhi is up 3-1 in the WCF against the Nuggets:

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Stats when Jordan doesn't have pippen on his team:

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[HBK_Kliq_2]

Was it though? Defense for sure but was it better than brons best offensively? I have hard time believing that.

Absolutely and anybody who tells you otherwise is a LeBron ass kisser or complete idiot.

LeBron never beat guys out in the east like giannis and embiid. He was beating guys closer to the level of josh smith

[Bronbron23]

Absolutely and anybody who tells you otherwise is a LeBron ass kisser or complete idiot.

LeBron never beat guys out in the east like giannis and embiid. He was beating guys closer to the level of josh smith

I don't know man. He never faced alot of talent in the east but he beat some pretty tough teams in the finals
Kawhi didn't face a great finals team because of injuries. Bron beat much better finals teams with the exception of when kawhi won in 14 but kawhi was just emerging. His stats weren't that amazing then.