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SouBeachTalents
07-23-2021, 11:56 AM
I wonder who else is next. Are all the names alluding to Native Americans gonna be changed soon?

Wally450
07-23-2021, 12:00 PM
Chiefs will be changed due to someone getting butthurt.

Patrick Chewing
07-23-2021, 12:03 PM
https://content.sportslogos.net/news/2021/07/cleveland-guardians-logos-new-indians-2022-mlb-baseball-logos-uniforms-sportslogosnet-750x944.png

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2021/07/23/USAT/f50067a2-46b8-460d-bd8a-ea1e5c325c9f-o22mez2nvlprbymkhwbk.jpeg


Looks like a bad MS Paint job.



No doubt the crybabies on the Left will influence other teams like the Braves to change their name, even though "Braves" is not a negative term towards Native Americans.

The Woke and Cancel Culture mob cannot be defeated it seems. They will lay waste to whatever they set their eyes on.

HunterSThompson
07-23-2021, 12:29 PM
will all the major league movies be banned from television and streaming networks soon as well

can I still wear my Cleveland Indians hat (that I was complimented on by a native last summer)

Patrick Chewing
07-23-2021, 12:38 PM
will all the major league movies be banned from television and streaming networks soon as well

can I still wear my Cleveland Indians hat (that I was complimented on by a native last summer)

If you show up to an Indians....err I mean Guardians game with an Indians cap or jersey, you will be beaten. These are the woke rules.

hold this L
07-23-2021, 12:42 PM
If you show up to an Indians....err I mean Guardians game with an Indians cap or jersey, you will be beaten. These are the woke rules.

I don't think any of those people have been in a fight all their lives :lol

FultzNationRISE
07-23-2021, 12:45 PM
Cleveland had a golden opportunity to re-name the franchise after the city’s prodigal son, Lebron James. And they blew it.

They deserve to lose for the next hundred years.

Dbrog
07-23-2021, 12:54 PM
Funny how when this happened to the Redskins, all the woke people cheering, but ACTUAL Indians were pissed because they now weren't represented....just sayin

tpols
07-23-2021, 12:54 PM
Chiefs will be changed due to someone getting butthurt.

That would be a damn shame. I wonder if they have to change the stadium too... from arrowhead stadium to so something else.

Come to think of it. :oldlol:

Think about the term arrowhead. Literally calling people savages because they only had bows while us evil white men had guns and cannons. I'm sure that will be cancelled next.

tpols
07-23-2021, 12:57 PM
Funny how when this happened to the Redskins, all the woke people cheering, but ACTUAL Indians were pissed because they now weren't represented....just sayin

Only woke white people looking for a cause to champion went along with this nonsense. Real native Americans didn't give a ****. Im still waiting for Minnesota to stop classifying all blond haired blue eyes northern people as Viking savages.

rawimpact
07-23-2021, 01:00 PM
While I hate the PC movement, Cleveland Guardians sounds pretty awesome. I actually like that retro logo..

Better than the Washington Football Team

Patrick Chewing
07-23-2021, 01:24 PM
Funny how when this happened to the Redskins, all the woke people cheering, but ACTUAL Indians were pissed because they now weren't represented....just sayin


Well, this is exactly what's happening right now. Any representation of minorities is being erased. Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's, Native Americans....as if they didn't exist. To me, I would want my face and likeness out there for all to see.

DoctorP
07-23-2021, 02:48 PM
I don't know. Looks like they ripped off the Angels

This is too matriarchal

Bill Gates
07-23-2021, 03:38 PM
A few years back I was going to purchase the LA Angels and rename them the LA Thug N*ggas, because you know, that's gangsta and kids would love that. But Melinda screamed at me and told me to stick to programming, I think that's a big part of why we divorced.

Patrick Chewing
07-23-2021, 03:46 PM
The miami refs is a good name, don't you think?

Do you think you're actually insulting me by telling me to go back to Cuba or by saying Miami refs? You're a loser, bro. You have too much time on your hands.

ArbitraryWater
07-23-2021, 07:48 PM
So what was offensive about the previous name?

I dont really get it.

Or is it simply because it was from a time where those people were opressed? (if they were?)

tpols
07-23-2021, 08:00 PM
So what was offensive about the previous name?

I dont really get it.

Or is it simply because it was from a time where those people were opressed? (if they were?)

When certain Europeans sailed the world and landed in the Americas they thought they arrived in India or somewhere around there like they came full circle. They went west and knew the world was round so they figured after such a long journey they must have hit the indies. So it is extremely ignorant to call native Americans "Indians" when they are really Asians who migrated to north America. But again nobody really gives a **** outside purple haired liberals. Even native Americans don't care much.

Patrick Chewing
07-23-2021, 08:25 PM
Imagine honoring a group of people for over 100 years, and then one day a blue-haired freak decides that he or she is going to be offended by it.

imdaman99
07-23-2021, 10:20 PM
We need a name change, to Kansas City Crackas or St Louis Whities to even things up. Why dedicate so many team names in sports to native americans? Is that really what the white owners of years past had on their minds? :wtf:

diamenz
07-23-2021, 11:08 PM
gay. how is the name 'indians' offensive in any way? redskins is a bit different i can understand that. but damn. it's not like the team is called the cleveland "timber ni99ers" or "prairie ni99ers".

Joey Turnbuckle
07-24-2021, 12:32 AM
Guardians of the ga(alax)ys.

In...dians
Guar...dians

You can tell the person that came up with this bum name thought they were clever. "If we keep the dians, maybe people won't even notice"

Name is liken to a WNBA team. Logo is also hideous. Angels should sue to block it, would be doing the Indians a favor.

Probably some Freemason dipshit involved that wanted to be able to use G as their logo.

https://clipground.com/images/masonic-lodge-clipart-3.jpg

bladefd
07-24-2021, 02:08 AM
Symbol looks like it was ripped off from the Flash's wing helmet with a G tacked on lol

HylianNightmare
07-24-2021, 06:10 AM
Grab the Indians merch while you can

Jasper
07-24-2021, 09:51 AM
maybe I am the only one , but why not use the Chiefs and Indians ??

I think it is respectful to Native Americans.

Now n igger would be a disgrace... but what do I know. What about White socks

Patrick Chewing
07-24-2021, 10:47 AM
We need a name change, to Kansas City Crackas or St Louis Whities to even things up. Why dedicate so many team names in sports to native americans? Is that really what the white owners of years past had on their minds? :wtf:

Some of these tribes have benefited heavily from these sports teams. Native American tribes will still get tons of money from the Cleveland ownership despite the name change. So the name change is irrelevant. It doesn't stop the support of Native Americans, it only appeases woke Liberals who want to find outrage and controversy where there is none.

Patrick Chewing
07-24-2021, 10:51 AM
Now we know where they got the inspiration for the logo:

https://i.ibb.co/617VnhW/paulie.png

TheMan
07-24-2021, 11:53 AM
When certain Europeans sailed the world and landed in the Americas they thought they arrived in India or somewhere around there like they came full circle. They went west and knew the world was round so they figured after such a long journey they must have hit the indies. So it is extremely ignorant to call native Americans "Indians" when they are really Asians who migrated to north America. But again nobody really gives a **** outside purple haired liberals. Even native Americans don't care much.

Pretty much, in Spanish they call Native American people Indios which is dumb because Indios are from India. There is movement to call them pueblos native, which translated to English is Native Peoples, which I think is much more accurate.

I hope this silliness stops though, a team like the Chicago Blackhawks were named in honor of Chief Blackhawk and in no way is it demeaning to them, next thing you'll hear is some libtards asking for them change the name of the Boston Celtics SMH

TheMan
07-24-2021, 11:57 AM
maybe I am the only one , but why not use the Chiefs and Indians ??

I think it is respectful to Native Americans.

Now n igger would be a disgrace... but what do I know. What about White socks
White Sox, and it's referring to the color of their socks, and not a race of people unless you think the Boston Red Sox are referring to Native Americans too lol

72-10
07-24-2021, 10:31 PM
So what was offensive about the previous name?

I dont really get it.

Or is it simply because it was from a time where those people were opressed? (if they were?)

It probably means too much that they had previously had a caricature of an American Indian as a chief part of their logo.

72-10
07-24-2021, 10:38 PM
Now that I've given it more thought I suppose they see too much a similarity of the term with pejoratives for their race, at least in the English and Spanish languages, and now feel that makes it hurtful in its own right. There could also be other factors at play...

DoctorP
07-25-2021, 01:01 AM
Do you think you're actually insulting me by telling me to go back to Cuba or by saying Miami refs? You're a loser, bro. You have too much time on your hands.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/24/be/8b24be0b449268501795b2116256a3e4.jpg

Snowflake meltdown lolol

Patrick Chewing
07-25-2021, 09:28 AM
How was your ban Pee Stain?? :roll:

DoctorP
07-25-2021, 09:32 AM
How was your ban Pee Stain?? :roll:

I was banned? Lol.


Meltdowwwwn


:cry:

Joey Turnbuckle
07-25-2021, 09:38 AM
^ IQ is low as f*ck. Never seen anything like it.

DoctorP
07-25-2021, 09:48 AM
^ IQ is low as f*ck. Never seen anything like it.

Chewings gay lover alt revealed. Tune in next week folks

Patrick Chewing
07-25-2021, 11:17 AM
I was banned? Lol.


Meltdowwwwn


:cry:

Yes, you were banned. And you were probably throwing a fit about it and peeing all over yourself.

Usually when you say racist things, you get banned. Everyone knows how much of a worthless racist you are. Probably a skinhead with a wife beater on as we speak. Human trash.

DoctorP
07-25-2021, 12:17 PM
Yes, you were banned. And you were probably throwing a fit about it and peeing all over yourself.

Usually when you say racist things, you get banned. Everyone knows how much of a worthless racist you are. Probably a skinhead with a wife beater on as we speak. Human trash.

I ate your mother with a fine wine and fava beans

Nice meltdown, hall monitor homo

GOBB
07-25-2021, 12:28 PM
gay. how is the name 'indians' offensive in any way? redskins is a bit different i can understand that. but damn. it's not like the team is called the cleveland "timber ni99ers" or "prairie ni99ers".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1251183

Read a little.

GOBB
07-25-2021, 12:29 PM
Only woke white people looking for a cause to champion went along with this nonsense. Real native Americans didn't give a ****. Im still waiting for Minnesota to stop classifying all blond haired blue eyes northern people as Viking savages.

Real native Americans? Why do you keep speaking for people you have no serious ties too. Yikes

Joey Turnbuckle
07-25-2021, 01:02 PM
Real native Americans were already bought off and sold out. See the land they were given, tobacco products, casinos to gamble and even produce/use drugs that every other American would be in prison for.

You probably choose Israel over Palestine but you defend Indians that were conquered way before that??

tpols
07-25-2021, 01:12 PM
Real native Americans? Why do you keep speaking for people you have no serious ties too. Yikes

9/10 Native Americans aren't offended by redskins name (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html)

Yea.... shut your mouth.

Joey Turnbuckle
07-25-2021, 01:15 PM
9/10 Native Americans aren't offended by redskins name (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html)

Yea.... shut your mouth.

Native American, Elizabeth Warren, was probably 1 of the 9% that voted she is offended.

diamenz
07-25-2021, 02:53 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1251183

Read a little.


But when Sockalexis first came to play baseball in Cleveland in the late 1890s, "Indian" was used as a pejorative by the white audiences who came to see him play, Dana said.

"He faced a lot of racism," Dana said. "So as long as one name, one image and one mascot remains, you will continue to have the perpetuation of stereotyping of Native people. I know in their heart some people believe it's honoring Native people, but this is found to be harmful."

THAT'S your argument? because some whities used the term 'indian' in a negative way nearly 150 years ago? give me a break.

btw the 'cleveland spiders', eh? that one's awfully offensive towards insects. better pull it from the history books!

GOBB
07-25-2021, 03:43 PM
9/10 Native Americans aren't offended by redskins name (https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/new-poll-finds-9-in-10-native-americans-arent-offended-by-redskins-name/2016/05/18/3ea11cfa-161a-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html)

Yea.... shut your mouth.

How many people took that poll clown? Like I said stop talking for people you have no serious ties too. Type dude that’ll have that token black friend who isn’t offended by anything racial and you’ll go by that. “My friend isn’t offended people are just sensitive”.

GOBB
07-25-2021, 03:50 PM
THAT'S your argument? because some whities used the term 'indian' in a negative way nearly 150 years ago? give me a break.

btw the 'cleveland spiders', eh? that one's awfully offensive towards insects. better pull it from the history books!

Horrible takes spider is a spider. And yes remove what whites from the past were comfortable with saying when they violated folks.

Let’s start an expansion team called the retards. And when people take offense let’s argue against them why they should get over it. And yes I use the word retard but if someone who had a family member, child that was and challenged me on it? I’d check myself. I’m not going to tell them stop being sensitive. You dudes got a lot of nerve trying to police and scold someone that feels offended by shit that’s done, said etc

PistonsFan#21
07-25-2021, 06:51 PM
How many people took that poll clown? Like I said stop talking for people you have no serious ties too. Type dude that’ll have that token black friend who isn’t offended by anything racial and you’ll go by that. “My friend isn’t offended people are just sensitive”.

You never cracked jokes at a white dude with your circle of black friends? What about gays and transgender jokes? Racial jokes are just that...jokes. Some people get easily offended and you strike me as someone with a victim mentality who might fit in that group with some of your posts.

As a black man i had white people tell me black jokes and i dished out jokes about them too. It's always in good spirit and deep down you can tell those people would stand for your if an actual racist instance was happening and they would respect you for your character more than anything. I'm not a fan of society forcing people to walk on egg shells, scared to say anything that might be constructed as racist. I could find you numerous clips of Dave Chapelle portraying black stereotypes in his jokes around mostly a white crowd and you probably would be quick to call him an uncle Tom.

That's not to say there isn't actual racist posters or real life people making those jokes but context is always key.

Patrick Chewing
07-25-2021, 08:37 PM
If Native Americans were truly offended by the name, they would have demanded it changed 100 years ago.

But it took blue and pink-haired White people with an addiction to outrage and fake social justice to speak for an entire nation of Native Americans to have the name changed.

So those rainbow flag wearing multi-color haired Whites need to stop speaking for people they have no serious ties to.

diamenz
07-25-2021, 09:33 PM
If Native Americans were truly offended by the name, they would have demanded it changed 100 years ago.

But it took blue and pink-haired White people with an addiction to outrage and fake social justice to speak for an entire nation of Native Americans to have the name changed.

So those rainbow flag wearing multi-color haired Whites need to stop speaking for people they have no serious ties to.

exactly.

DoctorP
07-25-2021, 10:04 PM
If Native Americans were truly offended by the name, they would have demanded it changed 100 years ago.

But it took blue and pink-haired White people with an addiction to outrage and fake social justice to speak for an entire nation of Native Americans to have the name changed.

So those rainbow flag wearing multi-color haired Whites need to stop speaking for people they have no serious ties to.

it's the kids you blubbering retard

a ref wouldn't understand

DoctorP
07-26-2021, 01:55 AM
aw too bad my election campaign thread was deleted :(

chewing was evicerated :lol

GOBB
07-26-2021, 08:16 AM
You never cracked jokes at a white dude with your circle of black friends? What about gays and transgender jokes? Racial jokes are just that...jokes. Some people get easily offended and you strike me as someone with a victim mentality who might fit in that group with some of your posts.

As a black man i had white people tell me black jokes and i dished out jokes about them too. It's always in good spirit and deep down you can tell those people would stand for your if an actual racist instance was happening and they would respect you for your character more than anything. I'm not a fan of society forcing people to walk on egg shells, scared to say anything that might be constructed as racist. I could find you numerous clips of Dave Chapelle portraying black stereotypes in his jokes around mostly a white crowd and you probably would be quick to call him an uncle Tom.

That's not to say there isn't actual racist posters or real life people making those jokes but context is always key.

Why would I call one of the greatest comedians in history an Uncle Tom for his jokes? Such a bad take. Tpols has made numerous racial remarks here. Hence why I replied to him specifically. Don’t jump into a conversation with your personal life experiences that has nothing to do with the poster I spoke to my guy. Has zero relevance. Maybe you were bored or felt guilty of being that token black guy? Weird.

hiphopanonymous
07-26-2021, 12:50 PM
Private decision made by a private company - they weren't forced to change their name by any one person or a government they voluntarily did so yet moron far right conservatives have their panties in a knot and are blaming the left as if this was either a democratic government decision or a reluctant concession to a "liberal" demand.

I vote conservative 9 times out of 10 for fiscal reasons as I've said before. But this is another example of a lot of conservatives misplacing their blame and behaving like ignorant babies. We WANT private companies to be able to make decisions on their own. We DON'T WANT big government. Who cares that they changed their name, they're allowed to - and it isn't the fault of "the left". It was a totally private business decision, perhaps tied with ethics perhaps not maybe it was economics involved too. Either way who cares - let the billionaires make their decisions you really think a government or some pink haired liberal as some of you say had anything to do with the decision? They did it on their own.

Guardians seems a decent choice I guess - certainly could have ended up a lot worse. I'm glad it actually has ties to the city.

Patrick Chewing
07-26-2021, 01:24 PM
Private decision made by a private company - they weren't forced to change their name by any one person or a government they voluntarily did so yet moron far right conservatives have their panties in a knot and are blaming the left as if this was either a democratic government decision or a reluctant concession to a "liberal" demand.

I vote conservative 9 times out of 10 for fiscal reasons as I've said before. But this is another example of a lot of conservatives misplacing their blame and behaving like ignorant babies. We WANT private companies to be able to make decisions on their own. We DON'T WANT big government. Who cares that they changed their name, they're allowed to - and it isn't the fault of "the left". It was a totally private business decision, perhaps tied with ethics perhaps not maybe it was economics involved too. Either way who cares - let the billionaires make their decisions you really think a government or some pink haired liberal as some of you say had anything to do with the decision? They did it on their own.

Guardians seems a decent choice I guess - certainly could have ended up a lot worse. I'm glad it actually has ties to the city.


Uhhh you do understand that they were influenced, right? Private decision, yes. Coerced decision based on negative publicity, yes too.


You guys underestimate the power the mob has right now. Especially the woke mob. Sure, you can keep the name all you want cause it's a private company, but in the court of public opinion, it's a losing battle. The woke mob controls the mainstream media and social media.

So to say that Conservatives "have their panties in a knot" is foolish and ignorant. Clearly missing the point and the bigger picture.

Lakers Legend#32
07-27-2021, 03:52 PM
Just knowing this pisses off Chewing makes it all worthwhile.

Patrick Chewing
07-27-2021, 04:06 PM
Just knowing this pisses off Chewing makes it all worthwhile.


I am SO angry. I'm going to push the next purple-haired Lib I see onto the train tracks.

72-10
07-29-2021, 05:53 PM
At least it's not called something like the Cleveland Garbage Pail Eaters or the Cleveland Garbage Gang.