Who needed more help to make the playoffs?

[3ba11]

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88' Pippen'......... 8/4... 12 PER.. benchwarmer

06' Zydrunas.... 16/8... 22 PER... 2x all-star
06' Hughes....... 16/5... 14 PER... all-defender
06' Varejao........ 5/5... 14 PER


Doug Collins..... future announcer
Mike Brown...... future COY, champion, and legendary coach of Nigeria (likely HOF)

[ShawkFactory]

Lather, rinse, repeat

[RRR3]

It’s an absolute black mark on this board that 3ball isn’t permabanned.

[Manny98]

Never seen this thread before

[ScottieQuitting]

LeBron has always needed more help, in the form of multiple elite perennial all star caliber stars and future HOFers.

Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Love

Mike only needed one, who he developed, and wasn’t an alpha franchise capable carrying player. Went to 6 Finals in 9 seasons with said player and won 6 of them thangs.

Kobe know needed one perennial star caliber sidekick, went to 3 Finals in 6 seasons and won 2 of them thangs.

LeBron has consistently needed 2x perennial all stars by his side to win as an alpha.

Also not including Kobe’s seasons with Shaq as sidekick or co alpha. Same way I’m not considering LeBron’s seasons with AD as co-alphas.

Mike never played with someone great enough to be a co-alpha. No Shaq, D-Wade or AD’s in sight for him. Would’ve been tantamount to playing with Barkley, Malone, Ewing, Drexler, Hakeem, D-Rob, Mitch or even Reggie type given the era by his side.

[Pip' N Rodman]

LeBron has always needed more help, in the form of elite perennial all star caliber stars and future HOFers.

Mike only needed one, who he developed, and wasn’t an alpha franchise capable carrying player. Went to 6 Finals in 9 seasons with said player and won 6 of them thangs.

Kobe know needed one perennial star caliber sidekick, went to 3 Finals in 6 seasons and won 2 of them thangs.

LeBron has consistently needed 2x perennial all stars by his side to win as an alpha.

Also not including Kobe’s seasons with Shaq as sidekick or co alpha. Same way I’m not considering LeBron’s seasons with AD as co-alphas.

Mike never played with someone great enough to be a co-alpha. No Shaq, D-Wade or AD’s in sight for him. Would’ve been tantamount to playing with Barkley, Malone, Ewing, Drexler, Hakeem, D-Rob, Mitch or even Reggie type given the era by his side.

LeBron led all his teams in the playoffs in Points, Rebounds, Assists

Jordan only led in points

So Jordan needed more help

[And1AllDay]

LeBron led all his teams in the playoffs in Points, Rebounds, Assists

Jordan only led in points

So Jordan needed more help

baaaaang!!!!

[3ba11]

LeBron led all his teams in the playoffs in Points, Rebounds, Assists

Jordan only led in points

So Jordan needed more help


Wade led in scoring for the 2011 Playoffs and Finals

AD led the entire league in playoff scoring for 2020

And Kyrie was an equal-scoring partner on the 2016 run

So Lebron doesn't lead his teams in scoring - he shares the scoring load (kyrie) or is the pippen to Wade or AD

Furthermore, Lebron needed 3 years to develop his team into a high seed before entering the 06' Playoffs, while Jordan was thrown into the playoffs in year 1 as an 8 seed

[And1AllDay]

Wade led in scoring for the 2011 Playoffs and Finals

AD led the entire league in playoff scoring for 2020

And Kyrie was an equal-scoring partner on the 2016 run

So Lebron doesn't lead his teams in scoring - he shares the scoring load (kyrie) or is the pippen to Wade or AD

Furthermore, Lebron needed 3 years to develop his team into a high seed before entering the 06' Playoffs, while Jordan was thrown into the playoffs in year 1 as an 8 seed

https://i.postimg.cc/SQdrJSC8/Mx901mxmmwi101ns189192jdjesi2t.jpg
clinging to a 2 pt lead over 20+ games :oldlol:

shook :oldlol:

[3ba11]

https://i.postimg.cc/SQdrJSC8/Mx901mxmmwi101ns189192jdjesi2t.jpg
clinging to a 2 pt lead over 20+ games :oldlol:

shook :oldlol:


AD scored more than Lebron all year - now make that chart for MJ/Pippen - let's see what a real carry-job looks like... :oldlol:

[RRR3]

3braincells, coach and maddog the holy trinity of retards :bowdown:

[MadDog]

LeBron has always needed more help, in the form of multiple elite perennial all star caliber stars and future HOFers.

Wade
Bosh
Ray Allen
Kyrie
Love

Mike only needed one, who he developed, and wasn’t an alpha franchise capable carrying player. Went to 6 Finals in 9 seasons with said player and won 6 of them thangs.

Kobe know needed one perennial star caliber sidekick, went to 3 Finals in 6 seasons and won 2 of them thangs.

LeBron has consistently needed 2x perennial all stars by his side to win as an alpha.

Also not including Kobe’s seasons with Shaq as sidekick or co alpha. Same way I’m not considering LeBron’s seasons with AD as co-alphas.

Mike never played with someone great enough to be a co-alpha. No Shaq, D-Wade or AD’s in sight for him. Would’ve been tantamount to playing with Barkley, Malone, Ewing, Drexler, Hakeem, D-Rob, Mitch or even Reggie type given the era by his side.

Facts. Had he stayed in Cleveland the first go around, LeBron would be closer to Wade than he is with guys like Magic and Bird. Fans are gullible though and think LeBron "led" teams to championships. 2020 was the first ring he won without a superteam, and it happened at Disney World. :oldlol:

[ScottieQuitting]

Facts. Had he stayed in Cleveland the first go around, LeBron would be closer to Wade than he is with guys like Magic and Bird. Fans are gullible though and think LeBron "led" teams to championships. 2020 was the first ring he won without a superteam, and it happened at Disney World. :oldlol:
100% fax machine

[MadDog]

3braincells, coach and maddog the holy trinity of retards :bowdown:

Another post decision LeBron fan in his feelings. :oldlol: Wipe your tears, bitch.

[ScottieQuitting]

Another post decision LeBron fan in his feelings. :oldlol: Wipe your tears, bitch.
What can you expect from an ugly Jew fro virgin Libtard dork? :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

3braincells, coach and maddog the holy trinity of retards :bowdown:

these bois shooooketh :oldlol:

clinging to two points

we gottem on the ropes now :cheers:

[8Ball]

For reference purposes:

"Organic"


adjective
noting or pertaining to a class of chemical compounds that formerly comprised only those existing in or derived from plants or animals, but that now includes all other compounds of carbon.
characteristic of, pertaining to, or derived from living organisms:
organic remains found in rocks.
of or relating to an organ or the organs of an animal, plant, or fungus.
of, relating to, or affecting living tissue:
organic pathology.
Psychology. caused by neurochemical, neuroendocrinologic, structural, or other physical impairment or change: organic disorder.Compare functional (def. 5).


The word organic has ZERO basketball applications. It has as much application as the word "purple". Jordan's teams were more "purple". Makes no sense.

[Hey Yo]

AD scored more than Lebron all year - now make that chart for MJ/Pippen - let's see what a real carry-job looks like... :oldlol:
LeBron the only 30+ year old player in history to avg. 25ppg and 10 assists in a season.

Did it at age 35

[outofstomach]

Another post decision LeBron fan in his feelings. :oldlol: Wipe your tears, bitch.

:lol

[Airupthere]

The cavs team looks loaded in comparison, damn.

[3ba11]

The cavs team looks loaded in comparison, damn.


Jordan had an 8 ppg rookie benchwarmer, while Lebron had:



* the reigning 2-time all-star center
* 22/6/5 all-defender acquisition
* future COY
* Varejao (close to rookie pippen)
* top team defense


it's no contest

if only lebron had gotten the most out of hughes like arenas did (arenas was an elite jumpshooter and off-guard)

[And1AllDay]

LeBron the only 30+ year old player in history to avg. 25ppg and 10 assists in a season.

Did it at age 35

baaaang!!!