Broussard: "US players don't know what to with a bunch of bodies in the paint"

[3ba11]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYU8ht-j0Bc&t=795s


At the 12:54 mark, he says that the defensive 3 seconds rule keeps the paint clear in today's NBA - so today's format is a beginner format (hands-off, defensive 3, open paint, no physicality), which has made our players bad at basketball compared to other countries or prior eras..

We need wide open lanes so we can play our inferior iso and 2-man basketball (high screen roll spamming).. this is bad basketball but it's all the Americans know..

[outofstomach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYU8ht-j0Bc&t=795s


At the 12:54 mark, he says that the defensive 3 seconds rule keeps the paint clear in today's NBA - so today's format is a beginner format (hands-off, defensive 3, open paint, no physicality), which has made our players bad at basketball compared to other countries or prior eras..

We need wide open lanes so we can play our inferior iso and 2-man basketball (high screen roll spamming).. this is bad basketball but it's all the Americans know..
i like you 3ball but you can’t pick and choose when to agree with the media, especially considering that they are usually the main ones pushing Lebron>jordan

[rawimpact]

They need to get embiid in there and just let him camp out

[Shogon]

They need to get embiid in there and just let him camp out

Joel Embiid isn't an American.

[rawimpact]

Joel Embiid isn't an American.

How do you know how he identifies as? This is America

[tontoz]

How do you know how he identifies as? This is America


:facepalm

Only Americans can play for the USA in the Olympics lol. Embiid grew up in Cameroon and didn't come here until he was 16.

Why do you think all these NBA stars are playing on foreign teams?

[Bronbron23]

How do you know how he identifies as? This is America

He's african man. Most Africans are very proud of where they're from. I'm 99.9% sure if u ask him where he is from he is saying africa. It's a pretty safe bet

[ShawkFactory]

:facepalm

Only Americans can play for the USA in the Olympics lol. Embiid grew up in Cameroon and didn't come here until he was 16.

Why do you think all these NBA stars are playing on foreign teams?

He's been here over 10 years. I don't know whether he has citizenship or not, but if he does he absolutely could compete for the United States.

[97 bulls]

He's been here over 10 years. I don't know whether he has citizenship or not, but if he does he absolutely could compete for the United States.

Olajuwan competed for the US National Team in 96

[Kblaze8855]

:facepalm

Only Americans can play for the USA in the Olympics lol. Embiid grew up in Cameroon and didn't come here until he was 16.

Why do you think all these NBA stars are playing on foreign teams?


With Hakeem and Ewing having been on team usa it’s not unreasonable to assume Embiid could if he chose to become a citizen. I assume he assumed a lot of long term nba stars do.

[3ba11]

i like you 3ball but you can’t pick and choose when to agree with the media, especially considering that they are usually the main ones pushing Lebron>jordan


Not Broussard... Broussard and Cowherd have come around.. Maybe they've been reading 3ball's posts.. :confusedshrug:

[SATAN]

When LeBron was 16 years old he obliterated MJ in a scrimmage game.

[3ba11]

When LeBron was 16 years old he obliterated MJ in a scrimmage game.


Apparently he didn't, because MJ thought Wade was better than Lebron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-JSozwU0os

[ralph_i_el]

Embiid could easily get citizenship if he wanted to. He's hurt right now though so I don't think it really matters. He would dominate FIBA with their rules on rebounding on the rim.

[ScottieQuitting]

Doesn’t surprise me. Most of these players don’t know what to do with a body in the lane.

They’ve come up in this NBA post 2016 where it is just pace and space. No physicality on the perimeter or at the rim. Minimal shot blockers. No power forward enforcers to punish you if you do get to the rim.

They’re basically chickenshit, Chris Broussard is essentially saying that.

And if it’s real basketball, you have to adapt an account for that when driving to the basket.

So if there’s a little bit of an obstacle they bail. And take the easy way out.

Hmm sounds like LeChickenshit. Such a trend setter.

By the way, is this what he’s leaving the game with? This is his legacy? Easy Road, chicken shit, path of least resistance? Terrible legacy.

What happened to wanting to leave the game better than you found it?

At least Mike left us with Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, and LeBron himself. Kobe left us with Kyrie, Kawhi, PG13, etc

Anyway this much is obvious to anybody who watches the league. None of these guys even know what a mid range game is, a post up game. Or hell, even a pull up jumper. No nuance. It’s all uncontested three-point shooting, and red carpets to the basket with no shot blockers.

The league at this point needs to readjust and change the rules. Not just for entertainment purposes, but for the quality of the sport. Especially if Europeans are not only out skilling us but being more physical at our own game.

That’s why in my opinion Kyrie Irving is the superior scorer compared to Dame. Watch that France game. If they would’ve stopped chucking threes and got some easy buckets or got to the hoop, they still would’ve won the game. But everything nowadays has turned into a caricature of what euro basketball used to be, get hot from three point range and live by it, or die by it.

That’s not basketball.


When LeBron was 16 years old he obliterated MJ in a scrimmage game.
They were on the same team :oldlol: stop making stuff up. LeBron just talked about it last summer.

[MaxPlayer]

Apparently he didn't, because MJ thought Wade was better than Lebron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-JSozwU0os

TBF no one ever mistook MJ for the GOAT talent evaluator

[Euroleague]

With Hakeem and Ewing having been on team usa it’s not unreasonable to assume Embiid could if he chose to become a citizen. I assume he assumed a lot of long term nba stars do.

I believe I saw an interview where Embid said he would maybe play with France, if he was going to play with a national team.

[3ba11]

TBF no one ever mistook MJ for the GOAT talent evaluator


TBF, Jordan was quite accurate and a prophet - Wade was the superior player and alpha when they teamed up in 2011, while Lebron was the beta - check their playoff and Finals stats that year.

[1987_Lakers]

TBF no one ever mistook MJ for the GOAT talent evaluator

Who the hell picks an overweight and undersized Sean May as your 1st pick of the draft? :oldlol:

[jstern]

I'm glad to see 3ball still dominating the arguments.

[Axe]

I'm glad to see 3ball still dominating the arguments.
:lol

[1987_Lakers]

TBF, Jordan was quite accurate and a prophet - Wade was the superior player and alpha when they teamed up in 2011, while Lebron was the beta - check their playoff and Finals stats that year.

https://www.talkbasket.net/98759-dwyane-wade-to-lebron-james-after-the-2011-nba-finals-this-is-your-team-im-here-to-help-you-now

“This is your team. I’m here to help you now,” - Wade to LeBron

[3ba11]

https://www.talkbasket.net/98759-dwyane-wade-to-lebron-james-after-the-2011-nba-finals-this-is-your-team-im-here-to-help-you-now

“This is your team. I’m here to help you now,” - Wade to LeBron


That was after the 2011 Playoffs and Finals where Wade was far superior to Lebron..

Who cares that he was getting long in the tooth after the season and therefore turned the team over to Lebron - when they first teamed up, Wade proved superior - that's what matters... And Jordan knew it - he could see the alpha superiority of Wade vs Lebron.

[1987_Lakers]

That was after the 2011 Playoffs and Finals where Wade was far superior to Lebron..

Who cares that he was getting long in the tooth after the season and therefore turned the team over to Lebron - when they first teamed up, Wade proved superior - that's what matters.

They started winning once Bron became the alpha.

[DoctorP]

Broussard doesn't know what to do with a wet vag in a bed. So theres that.

[3ba11]

They started winning once Bron became the alpha.


you mean once he stopped choking...

the Heat would've won the 11' Finals if Lebron averages 22 ppg, maybe less.. or if he just made 1 shot down the stretch of game 5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTSK0ifCH4

lol

[1987_Lakers]

you mean once he stopped choking...

the Heat would've won the 11' Finals if Lebron averages 22 ppg, maybe less.. or if he just made 1 shot down the stretch of game 5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTSK0ifCH4

lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFs16GWXT_w

[3ba11]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFs16GWXT_w


Pippen played worse in that series than Lebron in the 11' Finals.. So rusty MJ couldn't win with that.

ultimately, the 95' Bulls were a .500 ballclub until MJ carried them to 13-4 and then another 3-peat in his first full seasons back.

goat carry-job.

[1987_Lakers]

Pippen played worse in that series than Lebron in the 11' Finals.. So rusty MJ couldn't win with that.

ultimately, the 95' Bulls were a .500 ballclub until MJ carried them to 13-4 and then another 3-peat in his first full seasons back.

goat carry-job.

It wasn't organic, Rodman was traded to them and since he wasn't drafted by Chicago it can't count as a title. Right 3ball?

[3ba11]

It wasn't organic, Rodman was traded to them and since he wasn't drafted by Chicago it can't count as a title. Right 3ball?


no

and jordan already won organically with horace grant (role player), so he didn't need Rodman, and Rodman was a downgrade tbh.. The Bulls were playing 4 on 5 offensively.

[1987_Lakers]

no

and jordan already won organically with horace grant (role player), so he didn't need Rodman, and Rodman was a downgrade tbh.. The Bulls were playing 4 on 5 offensively.

He did need Rodman, he was choking without him in '95.

[3ba11]

He did need Rodman, he was choking without him in '95.


he didn't need rodman because any role player (like horace) was enough for MJ to 3-peat.. aka GOAT

[1987_Lakers]

he didn't need rodman because any role player (like horace) was enough for MJ to 3-peat.. aka GOAT

He did need Rodman because he was choking without in '95.

[3ba11]

He did need Rodman because he was choking without in '95.


you repeated the same argument, so I win... And now I'll repost the winning argument that made you be redundant:

he didn't need rodman because any role player (like horace) was enough for MJ to 3-peat.. aka GOAT

[1987_Lakers]

you repeated the same argument, so I win... And now I'll repost the winning argument that made you be redundant:

he didn't need rodman because any role player (like horace) was enough for MJ to 3-peat.. aka GOAT

I repeated it because your argument was weak. MJ lost without a Horace & Rodman type 3rd option. Horace was an All-Star in '94, Rodman was getting Finals MVP votes in '96, he needed a 2 other All-Stars in order to win, while LeBron in 2020 proved he doesn't need 2 other All-Stars. :cheers:

[3ba11]

I repeated it because your argument was weak. MJ lost without a Horace & Rodman type 3rd option. Horace was an All-Star in '94, Rodman was getting Finals MVP votes in '96, he needed a 2 All-Stars in order to win, while LeBron in 2020 proved he doesn't need 2 other All-Stars. :cheers:


Horace...... 1-time all-star
Bosh....... 11-time all-star... all-nba... HOF
Love......... 6-time all-star... all-nba... 90% HOF (bballref)

So Jordan needed a lot less to win... Only Lebron needed a star scorer at 3rd option.

And everyone knows Grant was a role player... A bum tbh

[1987_Lakers]

Horace...... 1-time all-star
Bosh....... 11-time all-star... all-nba... HOF


Jordan needed a lot less to win... Only Lebron needed a star scorer at 3rd option.

Grant was a role player... A bum tbh

MJ without Horace & Rodman as the team's 3rd best player, 0 rings and an epic choke job in '95. Also needed 6MOY level player Kukoc during the 2nd 3 peat.

[3ba11]

MJ without Horace & Rodman as the team's 3rd best player, 0 rings and an epic choke job in '95. Also needed 6MOY level player Kukoc during the 2nd 3 peat.


Lebron gets HOF's at 3rd option, while Giannis gets Jrue Holiday (better than Pippen) and Lopez at 4th option, while Jordan just gets Horace or old Rodman (4/8 averages for the entire 97' Playoffs and 98' Finals).

MJ is so goat it's ridiculous

[Axe]

You can't win anything without good teammates.

[3ba11]

You can't win anything without good teammates.


Giannis, MJ, and Kobe won without super-teams, while Lebron never did as the clear-cut top producer

So we don't know if Lebron can win with anything BUT super-teams... it's sad that the media props up this fraud

[Axe]

Lebron gets HOF's at 3rd option, while Giannis gets Jrue Holiday (better than Pippen) and Lopez at 4th option, while Jordan just gets Horace or old Rodman (4/8 averages for the entire 97' Playoffs and 98' Finals).

MJ is so goat it's ridiculous
Better than pippen at this point? Can't believe such a lunatic take like this exists.

[1987_Lakers]

Lebron gets HOF's at 3rd option, while Giannis gets Jrue Holiday (better than Pippen) and Lopez at 4th option, while Jordan just gets Horace or old Rodman (4/8 averages for the entire 97' Playoffs and 98' Finals).

MJ is so goat it's ridiculous

Bron won in 2016 with Love averaging 8 ppg on 35% shooting. Bosh in the 2013 Finals was averaging 12 ppg. Real HOF production right there. :oldlol:

[3ba11]

Bron won in 2016 with Love averaging 8 ppg on 35% shooting. Bosh in the 2013 Finals was averaging 12 ppg. Real HOF production right there. :oldlol:


you're showing low intellect by arguing that Bosh and Love are 8 ppg players.. Lebron obviously destroyed them.

nearly all of Lebron's teammaters do that alongside him... So you're just showing how bad Lebron is... He reduced nearly everyone and never elevated anyone - no one saw their stats grow during a tenure with Lebron.

Lebron's abnormally-long hold times for a forward gives everyone less hold-time than they normally get alongside forwards like KD, Kawhi or Giannis.

In addition to hold-time, there's more stats that prove the case... Everyone sees their assists decline alongside Lebron (less playmaking), while their assisted rate increases (play-finishing) - so he reduces everyone to play-finisher (spot-up shooters), which is a simple AAU brand that needs extra talent and still mostly loses..

[1987_Lakers]

you're showing low intellect by arguing that Bosh and Love are 8 ppg players.. Lebron obviously destroyed them.

nearly all of Lebron's teammaters do that alongside him... So you're just showing how bad Lebron is... He reduced nearly everyone and never elevated anyone.

Lebron's abnormally-long hold times for a forward gives everyone less hold-time than they normally get alongside forwards like KD, Kawhi or Giannis.

Everyone sees their assists decline alongside Lebron (less playmaking), while their assisted rate increases (play-finishing) - he turns everyone into spot-up shooters, which is a simple AAU brand that needs extra talent and still mostly loses..

Yup, just like Jordan. Grant became in All-Star in '94 and Pippen became an MVP candidate the moment MJ retired, even Armstrong became an All-Star.

Meanwhile, Kyrie got ran out of Boston, Wade declined, & Love became irrelevant the moment LeBron left them.

[3ba11]

Yup, just like Jordan. Grant became in All-Star in '94 and Pippen became an MVP candidate the moment MJ retired.

Meanwhile, Kyrie got ran out of Boston, Wade declined, & Love became irrelevant the moment LeBron left them.


Pippen, Grant and BJ grew from single-digit rookies to all-star caliber by the time he retired in 94' - so MJ elevated them to their maximum

Otoh, no one improved statistically during a tenure with Lebron - he never elevated anyone and reduced nearly everyone.. the only player type that wasn't completely destroyed by Lebron was elite shooters (Mo, Kyrie) - it's pathetic that this is the only player type that Lebron doesn't destroy.. Meanwhile, Jordan elevated all player types

[000]

Love has crippling depression

[3ba11]

Love has crippling depression


Yes, getting reduced to rubble by Lebron gave Love panic attacks, smh

[1987_Lakers]

Pippen, Grant and BJ grew from single-digit rookies to all-star caliber by the time he retired in 94' - so MJ elevated them to their maximum

Otoh, no one improved statistically during a tenure with Lebron - he never elevated anyone and reduced nearly everyone.. the only player type that wasn't completely destroyed by Lebron was elite shooters (Mo, Kyrie) - it's pathetic that this is the only player type that Lebron doesn't destroy.. Meanwhile, Jordan elevated all player types

So Pip, Armstrong, & Grant all made the All-Star team in '94, meaning he had 3 all-star caliber teammates during his 1st 3peat.

[3ba11]

So Pip, Armstrong, & Grant all made the All-Star team in '94, meaning he had 3 all-star caliber teammates during his 1st 3peat.


BJ and Grant were "Korver" all-stars (not legit)... But that doesn't change the fact that they grew by leaps and bounds alongside Jordan, while no one grows alongside Lebron's AAU skillset (simple ball-dominance).

Meanwhile, Lebron had 4 teammates with all-star resumes in 2010, but still lost (Mo, Jamison, Zydrunas, Shaq), and he lost his ass with 2 perenial all-star teammates from 2011-2017, plus HOF Ray Allen and all-star Korver.... And then he was lottery with multiple all-star caliber teammnates in 2019, aka Ingram, Rondo and all-defender Green... I think I'm missing a few all-stars for Lebron but that's enough for now.

[SATAN]

They were on the same team :oldlol: stop making stuff up. LeBron just talked about it last summer.

Stop lying.

[ShawkFactory]

BJ and Grant were "Korver" all-stars (not legit)... But that doesn't change the fact that they grew by leaps and bounds alongside Jordan, while no one grows alongside Lebron's AAU skillset (simple ball-dominance).

Meanwhile, Lebron had 4 teammates with all-star resumes in 2010, but still lost (Mo, Jamison, Zydrunas, Shaq), and he lost his ass with 2 perenial all-star teammates from 2011-2017, plus HOF Ray Allen and all-star Korver.... And then he was lottery with multiple all-star caliber teammnates in 2019, aka Ingram, Rondo and all-defender Green... I think I'm missing a few all-stars for Lebron but that's enough for now.

Grant had the 3rd highest WS/48 in all of basketball in 1992, behind only Jordan and David Robinson.

9th in the league in BPM and VORP too.

Didn't make the all star game that year though. Not until Jordan retired

[3ba11]

Grant had the 3rd highest WS/48 in all of basketball in 1992, behind only Jordan and David Robinson.

9th in the league in BPM and VORP too.

Didn't make the all star game that year though. Not until Jordan retired


And Korver is a goat 3-point shooter and floor spacer.. Grant isn't goat-level at anything.. He was a simple dunker and much worse than Clint Capela or Drummond.. Grant was equal to a Mason Plumlee or Steven Adams...

[8Ball]

Yes, getting reduced to rubble by Lebron gave Love panic attacks, smh

Good. LeBron should have punched him in the face instead to toughen him up.

[Xiao Yao You]

And Korver is a goat 3-point shooter and floor spacer.. Grant isn't goat-level at anything.. He was a simple dunker and much worse than Clint Capela or Drummond.. Grant was equal to a Mason Plumlee or Steven Adams...

Grant had a mid range shot. You obviously never saw him play