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2much_knowledge
07-28-2021, 01:44 AM
So many legends have done this

Bird did it with Mchale
Jordan with Pippen
Thomas with Dummars
Giannis with Middleton
Magic did it with worthy
Duncan did it parker
Hakeem did it on his own
Curry with Klay

All these 2nd options had to develop from the bottom

Wade - traded allstar
Bosh - traded allstar
Kyrie - allstar b4 2015
Love - traded allstar
Davis - traded allstar

Thats one big hole in that resume. Damn

RRR3
07-28-2021, 01:50 AM
Have you made a post that wasn’t about LeBron?

Spurs m8
07-28-2021, 03:34 AM
Of course not.

He doesn't develop players, he has always expected them to be ready now.

Trade away young assets for cherry picked ready now players.

Then throw them under the bus if they don't carry him enough and then run away all together after 4 years

That's LeEntitled for you

2much_knowledge
07-28-2021, 04:29 AM
Have you made a post that wasn’t about LeBron?

Many. Theres one right now in the main page. Sadly, every time i try to do creative subjects, no one replies.

Either way, just acknowledge that its the truth, no need to cry about it

2much_knowledge
07-28-2021, 04:31 AM
Of course not.

He doesn't develop players, he has always expected them to be ready now.

Trade away young assets for cherry picked ready now players.

Then throw them under the bus if they don't carry him enough and then run away all together after 4 years

That's LeEntitled for you

This is SO spot on. We know it, they know it too.

Spurs m8
07-28-2021, 04:54 AM
This is SO spot on. We know it, they know it too.

Destroying the LeNarrative is so easy with basic facts.

No mental gymnastics needed ever.

Lebron23
07-28-2021, 05:23 AM
Cavaliers drafted Irving in 2012. Not LeBron's fault the Cavs are very bad at drafting players.

000
07-28-2021, 05:37 AM
Lebron won with Kyrie and love who are both headcases. Also he won with daytodayvis

8Ball
07-28-2021, 07:09 AM
Lebron won with 2 mentally weakest losers of all time.

Kevin love the mental health loser and kyrie the flat earther.


Jordan 1-9 without pippen and never had a winning season without Big *** Pippen

And1AllDay
07-28-2021, 08:52 PM
playoff series wins before playing with bran and after bran left

bosh = 0
love = 0
kyrie = 1
ad = 1

with bran they all became champions

then after he left they were all zeros again. bran turning zeros into heroes just like pip did to mike

HoopsNY
07-28-2021, 09:09 PM
Cavaliers drafted Irving in 2012. Not LeBron's fault the Cavs are very bad at drafting players.

Are they though? They didn't have any picks a bunch of years (2005, 2007, 2010, 2016, 2017), but they did draft Boozer, LeBron, Green, Kyrie, Harris, Garland, Sexton, and Wiggins since 2002.

jalbert009
07-28-2021, 09:43 PM
First of all Middleton was not drafted by the Bucks.

Secondly Wade wasn't a traded all star. Lebron joined Wade in the Heat where Wade was already a proven champion.

And lastly, you could Argue Lebron won organically with that 2016 squad. Kyrie, Joe Harris, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao, Delladova were all drafted by the Cavs. :lol

ShawkFactory
07-28-2021, 09:51 PM
Cavaliers first round picks from 2004-2009:

2004- Luke Jackson (played 73 total games)
2005- NO PICK
2006- Shannon Brown
2007- NO PICK
2008- JJ Hickson
2009- Christian Eyenga

Not a whole lot of 2nd option talent there.

Axe
07-28-2021, 10:22 PM
Cavaliers first round picks from 2004-2009:

2004- Luke Jackson (played 73 total games)
2005- NO PICK
2006- Shannon Brown
2007- NO PICK
2008- JJ Hickson
2009- Christian Eyenga

Not a whole lot of 2nd option talent there.
And he's brought some of those scrubs in the finals, in 2007.

HylianNightmare
07-28-2021, 10:23 PM
Not my goat

FKAri
07-28-2021, 10:25 PM
So many legends have done this

Bird did it with Mchale
Jordan with Pippen
Thomas with Dummars
Giannis with Middleton
Magic did it with worthy
Duncan did it parker
Hakeem did it on his own
Curry with Klay

All these 2nd options had to develop from the bottom

Wade - traded allstar
Bosh - traded allstar
Kyrie - allstar b4 2015
Love - traded allstar
Davis - traded allstar

Thats one big hole in that resume. Damn

Exactly. Ruthless like a mob boss. Alpha.

3ba11
07-28-2021, 11:19 PM
F*ck no

How could any young player develop when they're being turned into spot-up shooter

His skill restriction to ball-dominance imposes spot-up roles that stall young players thereby needing ready-made stars to win

TheCorporation
07-28-2021, 11:20 PM
F*ck no

How could anyone develop when they're being turned into spot-up shooter

Pippen did okay under similar circumstances, ask him.

kawhileonard2
07-28-2021, 11:35 PM
He had Carlos Boozer as well. Deron Williams was able to take Boozer out West and get to the Conference Finals. Lebron couldn't even make the playoffs with Boozer.

2much_knowledge
07-29-2021, 05:22 AM
playoff series wins before playing with bran and after bran left

bosh = 0
love = 0
kyrie = 1
ad = 1

with bran they all became champions

then after he left they were all zeros again. bran turning zeros into heroes just like pip did to mike

Where's Wade? Lol

2much_knowledge
07-29-2021, 05:23 AM
First of all Middleton was not drafted by the Bucks.

Secondly Wade wasn't a traded all star. Lebron joined Wade in the Heat where Wade was already a proven champion.

And lastly, you could Argue Lebron won organically with that 2016 squad. Kyrie, Joe Harris, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao, Delladova were all drafted by the Cavs. :lol

You are right on that. Wade was not trades. Bran just ran to him for his aid

nineiron
07-29-2021, 09:38 AM
Have you made a post that wasn’t about LeBron?

have you?

StrongLurk
07-29-2021, 09:41 AM
Cavaliers first round picks from 2004-2009:

2004- Luke Jackson (played 73 total games)
2005- NO PICK
2006- Shannon Brown
2007- NO PICK
2008- JJ Hickson
2009- Christian Eyenga

Not a whole lot of 2nd option talent there.

:D

Lebron was too good from the start of his career so the Cavs couldn't get any top 5-10 picks.

ArbitraryWater
07-29-2021, 09:42 AM
which players drafted do you suggest he should have done it with.

ShawkFactory
07-29-2021, 09:55 AM
:D

Lebron was too good from the start of his career so the Cavs couldn't get any top 5-10 picks.

Luke Jackson was the only top 10 pick (was picked 10th). He played in 73 games, started 3 of them, and averaged 3.5ppg for his career.

Airupthere
07-29-2021, 09:55 AM
So many legends have done this

Bird did it with Mchale
Jordan with Pippen
Thomas with Dummars
Giannis with Middleton
Magic did it with worthy
Duncan did it parker
Hakeem did it on his own
Curry with Klay

All these 2nd options had to develop from the bottom

Wade - traded allstar
Bosh - traded allstar
Kyrie - allstar b4 2015
Love - traded allstar
Davis - traded allstar

Thats one big hole in that resume. Damn

KD and westbrook as well. Westbook didn't start out great
Shaq and kobe. Kobe started from the bottom.

Lebron will never let any teammate flourish because of bronball. He needs to dominate the statsheet. He needs all star players that will make shots when he passes them the ball in order to get triple doubles. All of these stars eventually fade within 2-3 years. Lebron does the opposite of elevating teammates.