If you average 35 but...

[000]

Dont score exactly 35 in each game, did you really average 35? Or am I really stupid?

[ImKobe]

The only argument is that you can't average 35 without getting 35+ a ton of times over the course of an entire season (50-82 games), but comparing a scoring average (single variable) to an average of 3 variables is ****ing stupid to begin with tbh.

[FKAri]

mean, median and mode. Welcome to grade 7 math.

[000]

The only argument is that you can't average 35 without getting 35+ a ton of times over the course of an entire season (50-82 games), but comparing a scoring average (single variable) to an average of 3 variables is ****ing stupid to begin with tbh.

I dont know what this means exactly but thanks for agreeing with me:banana:

[Bronbron23]

Dont score exactly 35 in each game, did you really average 35? Or am I really stupid?

Lol yes you really averaged 35. Aa far as this being applied to the triple-double this is what you have to understand. Both a point and triple-double have the same value. They're both are 1 unit that has a value of 1. The only difference between the two is that in a game you can have many points but only 1 triple-double. They're still only worth 1 though. Applying this fact to a 82 game season you would need 82 points to average a point. This is no different for a triple-double. You would need 82 triple-doubles to average a triple-double.

Basically there's a difference between averaging 10/10/10 and averaging a tripple double. You looking at it as if they're one in the same but they actually aren't. one is 3 separate categorical numbers and the other is a word used to represent an achievement in these 3 categories. Once this is done a triple-double becomes it's own unit separate from its 3 sub categories and it's value becomes 1. And now that's it's value is 1 and in a single game it can't have a value of more than 1 you Basically can't average it unles you get 1 a game. If you only got one in every other game which is essentially what westbrook did technically you'd only have 41 tripple doubles in 82 game season. This would mean you had .5 triple-doubles per game on the season which technically isn't averaging a triple-double on the season. So while you may have averaged 10 or more pts, reb and assists for an 82 game season that dosn't mean you necessarily averaged a triple-double in a 82 game season. The 2 aren't exclusive when it comes to the topic at hand.

Again this is technically speaking. When people say he averaged a triple-double i know what they mean.

[000]

Lol yes you really averaged 35. Aa far as this being applied to the triple-double this is what you have to understand. Both a point and triple-double have the same value. They're both are 1 unit that has a value of 1. The only difference between the two is that in a game you can have many points but only 1 triple-double. They're still only worth 1 though. Applying this fact to a 82 game season you would need 82 points to average a point. This is no different for a triple-double. You would need 82 triple-doubles to average a triple-double.

Basically there's a difference between averaging 10/10/10 and averaging a tripple double. You looking at it as if they're one in the same but they actually aren't. one is 3 separate categorical numbers and the other is a word used to represent an achievement in these 3 categories. Once this is done a triple-double becomes it's own unit separate from its 3 sub categories and it's value becomes 1. And now that's it's value is 1 and in a single game it can't have a value of more than 1 you Basically can't average it unles you get 1 a game. If you only got one in every other game which is essentially what westbrook did technically you'd only have 41 tripple doubles in 82 game season. This would mean you had .5 triple-doubles per game on the season which technically isn't averaging a triple-double on the season. So while you may have averaged 10 or more pts, reb and assists for an 82 game season that dosn't mean you necessarily averaged a triple-double in a 82 game season. The 2 aren't exclusive when it comes to the topic at hand.

Again this is technically speaking. When people say he averaged a triple-double i know what they mean.
Im not going to read all of that garbage so instead Im gonna let you in on a secret. But dont tell anyone else okay?

A triple double is not an "achievement", like a ring or allnba award. Its no more meaningful than a 35 point cutoff. "I had 10/10/10" is the same thing as "I had exactly 35". Capiche?

[Bronbron23]

The only argument is that you can't average 35 without getting 35+ a ton of times over the course of an entire season (50-82 games), but comparing a scoring average (single variable) to an average of 3 variables is ****ing stupid to begin with tbh.

It is dumb but i said this from jump. Both sides are being dumb though. The person who initially Brought up is dumb because they're being overly technical. Others are idiots because they actually don't understand that technically westbrook didn't.

[And1AllDay]

these guys still pulling the averages in the middle of the data set series instead of the end? :oldlol:

pull the average at the end...meaning...add up and tally all the numbers

then what is the average numbers? is it 10/10/10 more then yes, your averages are a triple double

[000]

It is dumb but i said this from jump. Both sides are being dumb though. The person who initially Brought up is dumb because they're being overly technical. Others are idiots because they actually don't understand that technically westbrook didn't.
Its gonna be fine as long as you feel superior to everyone involved

[Bronbron23]

Im not going to read all of that garbage so instead Im gonna let you in on a secret. But dont tell anyone else okay?

A triple double is not an "achievement", like a ring or allnba award. Its no more meaningful than a 35 point cutoff. "I had 10/10/10" is the same thing as "I had exactly 35". Capiche?

Technically it's actually not the same. There's a difference between the 2. If they were one in the same they'd be identical but they aren't. pay attention and learn some basic math. One is a single variable and the other is a multiple variable. If you payed attention in math you'd know the difference. Once you use a singular variable(triple-double) to represent a multiple variable(10/10/10) it's now considered a single variable and for you to average a single variable in an 82 game season you would have to achieve this single variable 82 times. Westbrook didn't achieve a triple-double 82 times so Technically he didn't average a triple-double.

[RicardoTubbs]

Damnit it LeBron. Get off ISH. Savannah and Zhuri are waiting in the car for you to take them to Dave & Busters

[Bronbron23]

these guys still pulling the averages in the middle of the data set series instead of the end? :oldlol:

pull the average at the end...meaning...add up and tally all the numbers

then what is the average numbers? is it 10/10/10 more then yes, your averages are a triple double

Nope what your not getting is i am using the "end" numbers. Again when you use a single variable to represent a multiple variable it now becomes a single variable. So now a point has the same unit value as triple-double. If you scored 82 points in a 82 game season you'd say what? You'd say i averaged a point a game. If you got 82 triple-doubles in an 82 game season you'd say the same thing. That is the end result of a 82 game season.

What you don't understand is that they aren't the same thing. You didn't average a tripple double. You averaged 10/10/10 while getting 41 triple-doubles. Basically you can get a triple-double but you can't really average one. It's semantics but it's technically true.

[Full Court]

I'm not sure if people here don't understand what average means, or if they're trolling....

[Bronbron23]

I'm not sure if people here don't understand what average means, or if they're trolling....

The issue isn't not understanding what average means it's you and others not understanding that averages don't really apply to a triple double in the first place because averages don't apply to singular variables with a max value of 1 like they do for singular variables with a value of 2 or more. This is basic math but for some reason a bunch of people don't understand it. For you to average a single variable like pts that has a value more than 1 you could technically go numerous games without scoring as long as you make it up in other games. This isn't the case for a single variable with a max value of one 1 like a triple-double. You can only get one so to average 1 a game you have to get 1 a game because you can't make it up in other games like you can points.

A hat trick in hockey is a great example. in a 82 game season if you score 246 goals but only get 10 actual hat tricks you averaged 3 goals game you didn't average a hat trick. In an 82 game season the only way to average a hat trick would be in one way or the other get 82 hat tricks. Now technically in hockey you can get a double hat trick which counts as 2 so unlike a triple double you could average a hat trick without getting a hat trick a game as long as you had double hat tricks in some games to make up for not getting any. If you could get double tripple doubles than you could do the same for basketball but i don't think double triple doubles exists so unfortunately the only way to average a triple-double is by getting a triple every game. It sounds complicated but it's actually pretty simple.

[Full Court]

The issue isn't not understanding what average means it's you and others not understanding that averages don't really apply to a triple double in the first place because averages don't apply to singular variables with a max value of 1 like they do for singular variables with a value of 2 or more. This is basic math but for some reason a bunch of people don't understand it. For you to average a single variable like pts that has a value more than 1 you could technically go numerous games without scoring as long as you make it up in other games. This isn't the case for a single variable with a max value of one 1 like a triple-double. You can only get one so to average 1 a game you have to get 1 a game because you can't make it up in other games like you can points.

A hat trick in hockey is a great example. in a 82 game season if you score 246 goals but only get 10 actual hat tricks you averaged 3 goals game you didn't average a hat trick. In an 82 game season the only way to average a hat trick would be in one way or the other get 82 hat tricks. Now technically in hockey you can get a double hat trick which counts as 2 so unlike a triple double you could average a hat trick without getting a hat trick a game as long as you had double hat tricks in some games to make up for not getting any. If you could get double tripple doubles than you could do the same for basketball but i don't think double triple doubles exists so unfortunately the only way to average a triple-double is by getting a triple every game. It sounds complicated but it's actually pretty simple.

Yeah, I understand what you're trying to argue, but it's just pointless and nonsense. If you average a triple double, it SIMPLY MEANS that you averaged double figures in three stats. It's nothing more or less than that. Just like it's considered significant if you can get double figures in three stats in a single game, it is also considered quite an accomplishment if you can average double figures in three stats PER GAME. This isn't rocket science, and it's not hockey hat tricks.

[Full Court]

Technically it's actually not the same. There's a difference between the 2. If they were one in the same they'd be identical but they aren't. pay attention and learn some basic math. One is a single variable and the other is a multiple variable. If you payed attention in math you'd know the difference. Once you use a singular variable(triple-double) to represent a multiple variable(10/10/10) it's now considered a single variable and for you to average a single variable in an 82 game season you would have to achieve this single variable 82 times. Westbrook didn't achieve a triple-double 82 times so Technically he didn't average a triple-double.

When people talk about averaging a triple double, they obviously don't mean it in the single variable sense. And you know this, so why make an issue out of it?

[000]

Technically it's actually not the same. There's a difference between the 2. If they were one in the same they'd be identical but they aren't. pay attention and learn some basic math. One is a single variable and the other is a multiple variable. If you payed attention in math you'd know the difference. Once you use a singular variable(triple-double) to represent a multiple variable(10/10/10) it's now considered a single variable and for you to average a single variable in an 82 game season you would have to achieve this single variable 82 times. Westbrook didn't achieve a triple-double 82 times so Technically he didn't average a triple-double.

A triple double = "three of ur stats are double digit numbers"
Do you think that applies to Westbrooks averages or no?

[RRR3]

This entire board is insane.

[000]

How about this:
Lebrons career averages are 27/7/7. For this reason some ppl refer to 27/7/7 as a "lebron". Because thats what Lebron averages...
Yet the interesting thing here is that Lebron has infact never had a game with exactly 27/7/7.

So does that mean that Lebron does NOT actually average a "Lebron"???

[Bronbron23]

How about this:
Lebrons career averages are 27/7/7. For this reason some ppl refer to 27/7/7 as a "lebron". Because thats what Lebron averages...
Yet the interesting thing here is that Lebron has infact never had a game with exactly 27/7/7.

So does that mean that Lebron does NOT actually average a "Lebron"???

Basically yes. Again i know what you mean when u say it but technically you can't average a lebron. The reason for this is a "lebron" has different requirements than averaging 27/7/7 does. For you to average 27/7/7 you don't always have to get 27/7/7 sometimes you can get less as long as you get more some other times. With a "lebron" you always have to get 27/7/7. That's the requirement for getting a lebron. If you don't get 27/7/7 it's not a lebron.

Look at it like this. Let's say you go on a trip for 82 days and on this trip you said to yourself i wanna slay 30 women a night. 10 white girls, 10 black girls and an 10 Asian girls. You decide to call this feat a "wilt chamberlain". A wilt chamberlain has one property that must be true. It must have 10bg,10wg and 10ag for it to be a wilt chamberlain. If it dosnt have all 3 it can't be a wilt. Now lets say on this 82 day trip you managed to slay 820 white girls, 820 black girls and 820 asian girls but you never actually ever had a wilt chamberlain on any night. Now while you certainly still may have averaged 10 wg, 10bg and 10as in 82 days you technically didn't average a wilt chamberlain because you never got a wilt chamberlain. You can't average something you never got.

Again it's semantics and i know what people mean when they say he averaged a triple-double I'm just talking in technical terms. You can't really average anything with a max value of one without doing it every time out.

[dankok8]

@Bronbron23

I understand what you're arguing but Westbrook did average a triple double. His averages that season were a triple double 10+/10+/10+ therefore he averaged it. Just like the aforementioned hockey player you used as an example averaged a hat trick. It doesn't mean that he had a hat trick in every game. Heck he could have scored 165 goals in one game and 1 goal in every other game and still average 3 per game which is a hat trick. The meaning of average or mean is adding all the elements together and divide by the number of elements.

If a triple double was indeed a qualitative stat (as opposed to quantitative) then you can't have an average anyways. Like you can't say that an average girl on the street has brown hair. That statement is meaningless because brown hair isn't quantitative but qualitative and can't be expressed using numbers. Triple double to me is quantitative though. It has a numerical value of at least 10/10/10. Thus when people say Westbrook averaged a triple double that makes sense. His season averages meet the quantitative definition of a triple double.

[Bronbron23]

@Bronbron23

I understand what you're arguing but Westbrook did average a triple double. His averages that season were a triple double 10+/10+/10+ therefore he averaged it. Just like the aforementioned hockey player you used as an example averaged a hat trick. It doesn't mean that he had a hat trick in every game. Heck he could have scored 165 goals in one game and 1 goal in every other game and still average 3 per game which is a hat trick. The meaning of average or mean is adding all the elements together and divide by the number of elements.

If a triple double was indeed a qualitative stat (as opposed to quantitative) then you can't have an average anyways. Like you can't say that an average girl on the street has brown hair. That statement is meaningless because brown hair isn't quantitative but qualitative and can't be expressed using numbers. Triple double to me is quantitative though. It has a numerical value of at least 10/10/10. Thus when people say Westbrook averaged a triple double that makes sense. His season averages meet the quantitative definition of a triple double.

You pretty much argued for me a few times. "If a triple double was indeed a qualitative stat (as opposed to quantitative) then you can't have an average anyways" that was exactly my point from jump. And it's not "if" it's a qualitative it is in fact qualitative.

"The meaning of average is adding all the elements together and divide by the number of elements" so let's do it. If it was a a question it would go like this:

Question? In an 82 game season westbrook had 41 triple doubles. how many triple doubles did westbrook average?

Answe: 41÷82= .5 (westbrook averaged. 5 triple doubles in an 82 game season.

Again that's not what is meant when people say Westbrook averaged a triple-double. We all know what people mean but the guy who brought this up awhike ago wasn't wrong when he said technically he didn't.

[000]

Its settled. From now on if you score 35 in a game, thats actually a "35-point game". And if you want to average 35 for a season, you need to get exactly 35 every game.

You language prescriptivists cant tell me what to do anyway. I am free to be a retard all I want!

[Bronbron23]

Its settled. From now on if you score 35 in a game, thats actually a "35-point game". And if you want to average 35 for a season, you need to get exactly 35 every game.

You language prescriptivists cant tell me what to do anyway. I am free to be a retard all I want!

Not really becauseyou don't always need 35 pts to average 35 . However In a 82 game season you can average 35 but only get .5 35 point games. The difference here being to average 35 points you don't always need 35 but to have a 35 point game you have to at least have 35 points.

The same applies to the triple-double and averaging 10/10/10. In an 82 game season you can average 10/10/10 while only averaging .5 triple-doubles.

[000]

Yes you do. If you get less than 35 points in a game, thats less than 35 points. It doesnt count towards your "35 pt game" count.

No averaging 35 ppg for you boi

[000]

Remember kids. Even if a triple of your stats are double digit numbers, you still dont have a triple double. Why? Fuсk westbrick thats why

[j3lademaster]

whats up with this recent phenomenon of people trying to redefine what 'average' means.

[Bronbron23]

Yes you do. If you get less than 35 points in a game, thats less than 35 points. It doesnt count towards your "35 pt game" count.

No averaging 35 ppg for you boi

Nah man a 35 point game isn't the same as averaging 35 that's why. So while you don't always need 35 points to average 35 you do need at least 35 to have a 35 point game. That's why you can average 35 points a game but only have say 30 actually 35 point games. The 2 are completely different.

[Bronbron23]

whats up with this recent phenomenon of people trying to redefine what 'average' means.

Nobody trying to redefining anything. Westbrook averaged a triple double. Everybody knows what's meant by that and that's fine.

[000]

Nah man a 35 point game isn't the same as averaging 35 that's why. So while you don't always need 35 points to average 35 you do need at least 35 to have a 35 point game. That's why you can average 35 points a game but only have say 30 actually 35 point games. The 2 are completely different.
No you need to have 82 35 point games if you want to average 35 ppg. 35 points is a binary event. You either get it or you dont.

[Bronbron23]

No you need to have 82 35 point games if you want to average 35 ppg. 35 points is a binary event. You either get it or you dont.

No you don't. You just have to have 2870 points to average 35 points a game. How you get there dosn't matter. As far as averaging "35 point games" you actually have to at least get 35 points for it to count toward the average. There's a difference