MJ is the greatest loser among top 10 players in NBA history

[jlip]

Since 3ball is allowed to spam this board with troll threads, and I have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon, why can't I?


I've already established the following:


Michael Jordan is the greatest loser among the top 10 all time greatest players. No subjective opinion allowed.

Below is a list of players typically in the top 10 all time (in no particular order). Beside their names are the seasons in which their teams had losing seasons. As you can see, with five losing seasons, Michael Jordan is by far the greatest loser among players who are usually considered to be top 10. No one else has more than two. This means he's more than twice the loser as anyone else. In the era of trolling and manufactured criteria, we don’t need context nor explanations regarding, age, quality of teammates, or injuries. Those things don’t matter. Context doesn’t matter when he wins. It’s just assumed that it’s solely because he’s so great. Therefore, in the interest of consistency, context doesn’t matter when he loses either.

MJ is celebrated for going 6/6 or perfect in the finals, while Bill Russell is not considered perfect in the finals while going 11/12, despite the only finals his team lost, he missed half of it due to injury. So again, in the era of trolling, context is unnecessary. MJ is, by far, the greatest loser among top 10 players. Simple facts. No opinion.

Bill Russell- N/A
Wilt Chamberlain- 1963, 1965
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- 1975, 1976
Magic Johnson- N/A
Larry Bird- N/A
Michael Jordan- 1985, 1986, 1987, 2002, 2003
Shaquille O'Neal- 2008 w/Heat
Tim Duncan- N/A
Lebron James- 2004, 2019
Hakeem Olajuwon- 2000


But then there's more...

Of the consensus top 10 players below, MJ has the third worst career winning % in history. Only Wilt and Hakeem have lower career winning percentages.

1. Magic Johnson: 73.95 percent (670-236)
2. Larry Bird: 73.58 percent (660-237)
3. Tim Duncan: 71.91 percent (1001-391)
4. Bill Russell: 71.65 percent (690-273)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 68.85 percent (1074-486)
6. Shaquille O'Neal: 67.85 percent (819-388)
7. LeBron James: 66.34 percent (869-441)
8. Michael Jordan: 65.86 percent (706-366)
9. Wilt Chamberlain: Didn't make the cut
10. Hakeem Olajuwon: Didn't make the cut

[MadDog]

The guy who 3-peated twice, and has the most FMVPs is the "GOAT" loser. Nice troll thread though. I laughed.

[theman93]

The guy who 3-peated twice, and has the most FMVPs is the "GOAT" loser. Nice troll thread though. I laughed.

He probably thinks men can give birth too. :lol

[jlip]

The guy who 3-peated twice, and has the most FMVPs is the "GOAT" loser. Nice troll thread though. I laughed.

Identify one stat in the OP that was not accurate.

[theman93]

Identify one stat in the OP that was not accurate.

Your thread title is, "MJ is the greatest loser among top 10 players in NBA history"

Then you list two other players who have a worse winning % than him.

Are you retarded?

[HoopsNY]

Identify one stat in the OP that was not accurate.

Your stats are accurate - I think - but they're highly de-contextualized. I understand your logic though, and it's pretty much the same as 3ball does.

I think a lot more healthy discussions could happen without him on this forum, but also, the same could be said without all these Bran stans.

[LAL]

He probably thinks men can give birth too. :lol

:roll:

[jlip]

Your thread title is, "MJ is the greatest loser among top 10 players in NBA history"

Then you list two other players who have a worse winning % than him.

Are you retarded?

I knew that this thread would bring out the usual MJ worshipers and cult followers.

You are only looking at one part of the thread. He literally has twice as many non-winning seasons as any other top 10 player. He is also near the bottom of the overall career winning percentage., Considering both factors compositely, he is essentially the greatest loser in the top 10

Also, it's your comprehension that is questionable. You responded to a question which was to provide a "stat" in the OP that was inaccurate. You did not provide a stat that was inaccurate. You provided an interpretation of the conclusion that you felt was inaccurate.

[jlip]

Your stats are accurate - I think - but they're highly de-contextualized. I understand your logic though, and it's pretty much the same as 3ball does.

I think a lot more healthy discussions could happen without him on this forum, but also, the same could be said without all these Bran stans.


You get it. I know they are decontextualized. That was the purpose. 3-ball gets to do what he does which is provide information without context. Why not the rest of us?

Also, yes the LeBron trolls are horrible, but 3ball's incessant trolling is rock bottom.

[LAL]

I knew that this thread would bring out the usual MJ worshipers and cult followers.

You are only looking at one part of the thread. He literally has twice as many non-winning seasons as any other top 10 player. He is also near the bottom of the overall career winning percentage., Considering both factors compositely, he is essentially the greatest loser in the top 10

Also, it's your comprehension that is questionable. You responded to a question which was to provide a "stat" in the OP that was inaccurate. You did not provide a stat that was inaccurate. You provided an interpretation of the conclusion that you felt was inaccurate.

Dumbass, he built that whole city from scratch. Whats wrong with you bronsexuals? You wanted him to team up with Barkley & Ewing after the 90 season to make you happy?

Mj in his 13 year prime = 6/6
Kobe's 10 year prime = 5/7
Magic 11prime years = 5/9
Bird 8 prime years = 3/5

Lebron 19 prime years = 4/10 (superteams in the East)

Still chasing

[HoopsNY]

You get it. I know they are decontextualized. That was the purpose. 3-ball gets to do what he does which is provide information without context. Why not the rest of us?

Also, yes the LeBron trolls are horrible, but 3ball's incessant trolling is rock bottom.

Yea I agree. I can understand making a few threads about Pippen, but good Lord; it feels like an everyday thing with him. Not to mention, clear, logical facts and analysis are provided, and he just rejects them in favor of whatever de-contextualized vomit he decides to hinge his entire existence on.

[jlip]

Dumbass, he built that whole city from scratch. Whats wrong with you bronsexuals? You wanted him to team up with Barkley & Ewing after the 90 season to make you happy?

Mj in his 13 year prime = 6/6
Kobe's 10 year prime = 5/7
Magic 11prime years = 5/9
Bird 8 prime years = 3/5

Lebron 19 prime years = 4/10 (superteams in the East)

Still chasing

You do realize it's possible to criticize MJ while also not necessarily being a fan of LeBron either, right? Some of us have been following basketball for over 30 years and have other players who happen to be our favorite.

[theman93]

I knew that this thread would bring out the usual MJ worshipers and cult followers.

You are only looking at one part of the thread. He literally has twice as many non-winning seasons as any other top 10 player. He is also near the bottom of the overall career winning percentage., Considering both factors compositely, he is essentially the greatest loser in the top 10

If he is the greatest loser in the top 10, why is his career playoff win % higher than everyone outside of Magic?

[kennethdrippin]

Since 3ball is allowed to spam this board with troll threads, and I have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon, why can't I?


I've already established the following:




But then there's more...

Of the consensus top 10 players below, MJ has the third worst career winning % in history. Only Wilt and Hakeem have lower career winning percentages.

1. Magic Johnson: 73.95 percent (670-236)
2. Larry Bird: 73.58 percent (660-237)
3. Tim Duncan: 71.91 percent (1001-391)
4. Bill Russell: 71.65 percent (690-273)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 68.85 percent (1074-486)
6. Shaquille O'Neal: 67.85 percent (819-388)
7. LeBron James: 66.34 percent (869-441)
8. Michael Jordan: 65.86 percent (706-366)
9. Wilt Chamberlain: Didn't make the cut
10. Hakeem Olajuwon: Didn't make the cut


consensus mean most people's opinion.

if you ask most people kobe is top 5

if you ask most players and coaches kobe is top 5

if you ask espn even they have him top 9 now

so I dunno who's left. realgm? even nick Wright has kobe top 10 and ahead of shaq lmao

[97 bulls]

Your stats are accurate - I think - but they're highly de-contextualized. I understand your logic though, and it's pretty much the same as 3ball does.

I think a lot more healthy discussions could happen without him on this forum, but also, the same could be said without all these Bran stans.

And that's the problem with manynof these discussions. No context.

And its become a matter of who can troll harder.

[FKAri]

And that's the problem with manynof these discussions. No context.

And its become a matter of who can troll harder.
Agreed. It's disappointing and shameful.


If he is the greatest loser in the top 10, why is his career playoff win % higher than everyone outside of Magic?
Because he was carried, his team was stacked, the games were rigged and he took steroids.

[Manny98]

If you remove his championship years his career becomes quite mediocre tbh

He spent 2 years playing baseball in the middle of his prime

Spent the first 6 years of his career either getting destroyed in the first round or getting beat down by the Pistons

And some don't even count his two years in Washington because they were so pathetic

Not hating btw, but let's acknowledge that MJs career wasn't perfect and that other guys have had arguably as good or better careers than MJ

[kennethdrippin]

If you remove his championship years his career becomes quite mediocre tbh

He spent 2 years playing baseball in the middle of his prime

Spent the first 6 years of his career either getting destroyed in the first round or getting beat down by the Pistons

And some don't even count his two years in Washington because they were so pathetic

Not hating btw, but let's acknowledge that MJs career wasn't perfect and that other guys have had arguably as good or better careers than MJ

"if you remove everything a guy ever did he looks pretty shitty ahuhaa haha huuhh"


you guys are losing your touch

[Axe]

And that's the problem with manynof these discussions. No context.

And its become a matter of who can troll harder.
This. Plus in this board, it just leads to endless trolling yep.

[Manny98]

"if you remove everything a guy ever did he looks pretty shitty ahuhaa haha huuhh"


you guys are losing your touch
The point is that his career wasn't perfect as some make out to be, I wasn't bashing him

[Axe]

The point is that his career wasn't perfect as some make out to be, I wasn't bashing him
But despite that, he was so successful in the light and soft 90s. Along with scottie pippen that is.

[kawhileonard2]

The guy who 3-peated twice, and has the most FMVPs is the "GOAT" loser. Nice troll thread though. I laughed.

:oldlol:

[Gohan]

If you take his chips away, scoring titles, mvps, all nba teams, finals mvps. Jordan is quite mediocre. Just keeping it real fellas

[000]

Since when is Michael Jordan anywhere close to being a top 10 player of all time?

[Gohan]

Since when is Michael Jordan anywhere close to being a top 10 player of all time?

Iverson replaced mj and now mj is out of the top 10. Sucks but it happens

[000]

Iverson replaced mj and now mj is out of the top 10. Sucks but it happens

Great post. Iverson carried his team to the Nba Finals. Mikey nikey never carried anything

[kennethdrippin]

The point is that his career wasn't perfect as some make out to be, I wasn't bashing him

its about as perfect as it can get though

[TheMan]

If you remove his championship years his career becomes quite mediocre tbh


:roll:

[RogueBorg]

Your thread title is, "MJ is the greatest loser among top 10 players in NBA history"

Then you list two other players who have a worse winning % than him.

Are you retarded?

:roll:

[Hey Yo]

The guy who 3-peated twice, and has the most FMVPs is the "GOAT" loser. Nice troll thread though. I laughed.

3 pleated twice due to load management

[outofstomach]

Agreed. It's disappointing and shameful.


Because he was carried, his team was stacked, the games were rigged and he took steroids.

you’re a bron troll too :lol

[outofstomach]

:roll:
can’t believe that’s an actual criticism

[Gohan]

3 pleated twice due to load management

Lmao imma load manage too if it helps me win more. You literally cant be this stupid… theres just no way

[theman93]

Lmao imma load manage too if it helps me win more. You literally cant be this stupid… theres just no way

I mean he thinks Lebron didn't turn Love in to a spot up shooter sooooo......

[Gohan]

I mean he thinks Lebron didn't turn Love in to a spot up shooter sooooo......

Its not like lebron is totally innocent either he joined up with dwayne wade and bosh. Thats load management in itself

[StrongLurk]

Since 3ball is allowed to spam this board with troll threads, and I have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon, why can't I?


I've already established the following:




But then there's more...

Of the consensus top 10 players below, MJ has the third worst career winning % in history. Only Wilt and Hakeem have lower career winning percentages.

1. Magic Johnson: 73.95 percent (670-236)
2. Larry Bird: 73.58 percent (660-237)
3. Tim Duncan: 71.91 percent (1001-391)
4. Bill Russell: 71.65 percent (690-273)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 68.85 percent (1074-486)
6. Shaquille O'Neal: 67.85 percent (819-388)
7. LeBron James: 66.34 percent (869-441)
8. Michael Jordan: 65.86 percent (706-366)
9. Wilt Chamberlain: Didn't make the cut
10. Hakeem Olajuwon: Didn't make the cut

OP, 3ball won't understand this list since he doesn't currently have Bron, Magic, or Bill Russell in his top ten players.

[Bronbron23]

Since 3ball is allowed to spam this board with troll threads, and I have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon, why can't I?


I've already established the following:




But then there's more...

Of the consensus top 10 players below, MJ has the third worst career winning % in history. Only Wilt and Hakeem have lower career winning percentages.

1. Magic Johnson: 73.95 percent (670-236)
2. Larry Bird: 73.58 percent (660-237)
3. Tim Duncan: 71.91 percent (1001-391)
4. Bill Russell: 71.65 percent (690-273)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 68.85 percent (1074-486)
6. Shaquille O'Neal: 67.85 percent (819-388)
7. LeBron James: 66.34 percent (869-441)
8. Michael Jordan: 65.86 percent (706-366)
9. Wilt Chamberlain: Didn't make the cut
10. Hakeem Olajuwon: Didn't make the cut

Wtf is this? So the guy that actually won the most was actually the greatest loser?

An easy counter question test this and test your honesty is this:

Would you rather have a the greatest winning percentage and and most winning seasons record wise of all time or would you rather have the most championships of all time?

[tontoz]

Even taking OP at face value his position is weak.

'85 he was a rookie on a team heavily into drugs.

'86 Jordan hurt his foot in the 3rd game of the season. When he started playing again in march he was on a minutes restriction. He only played 18 games total

'87 they were 1 win away from .500

Wizards years he was out of the league for 3 years and came back to a bad team at age 38.

:sleeping

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[Spurs m8]

Lebron has lost 6 finals hahahhaa
Even after collusion.

Though I guess it's irrelevant to this thread, as he isn't top 10

My bad

[j3lademaster]

If you remove his championship years his career becomes quite mediocre tbh What the **** kind of argument is that? That's 6 seasons in his prime.


He spent 2 years playing baseball in the middle of his primeHas nothing to do with basketball, man can do whatever he wants. But not playing a sport since you're a teenager and being able to hang with pros really shows the kind of genius athlete MJ was.


Spent the first 6 years of his career either getting destroyed in the first round or getting beat down by the PistonsI better not hear you talking about KD being better than Giannis then, since he lost. Same logic applies.


And some don't even count his two years in Washington because they were so pathetic Have you ever played a sport? Imagine trying to play that sport at the highest possible level... after taking 2 years off. And coming back at 40 and out of shape. And it's not like Wizard's MJ was chopped liver.

[j3lademaster]

3 pleated twice due to load managementdouble-pleated pants are hideous, I don't even want to think about 3pleated ones.

But on a serious note, the man was playing another pro sport. How is that "load managing"?

But ok fine. let's give you the benefit of the doubt. But MJ 3peated once without the "load management" right?

How many players have historically 3peated ONCE even with load managing?

[ClipperRevival]

Since 3ball is allowed to spam this board with troll threads, and I have nothing else to do on a Sunday afternoon, why can't I?


I've already established the following:




But then there's more...

Of the consensus top 10 players below, MJ has the third worst career winning % in history. Only Wilt and Hakeem have lower career winning percentages.

1. Magic Johnson: 73.95 percent (670-236)
2. Larry Bird: 73.58 percent (660-237)
3. Tim Duncan: 71.91 percent (1001-391)
4. Bill Russell: 71.65 percent (690-273)
5. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: 68.85 percent (1074-486)
6. Shaquille O'Neal: 67.85 percent (819-388)
7. LeBron James: 66.34 percent (869-441)
8. Michael Jordan: 65.86 percent (706-366)
9. Wilt Chamberlain: Didn't make the cut
10. Hakeem Olajuwon: Didn't make the cut

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[outofstomach]

double-pleated pants are hideous, I don't even want to think about 3pleated ones.

But on a serious note, the man was playing another pro sport. How is that "load managing"?

But ok fine. let's give you the benefit of the doubt. But MJ 3peated once without the "load management" right?

How many players have historically 3peated ONCE even with load managing?notice how the virgin didn’t respond :applause: