without superstar collusion/tampering who wins the championships since 2008

[kennethdrippin]

2008 - Lakers beat Detroit
2009 - Lakers beat Magic
2010 - Lakers beat Cavs
2011 - Mavs beat Cavs
2012 - Thunder beat Pacers
2013 - Spurs beat Pacers
2014 - Spurs beat Pacers
2015 - Warriors beat Cavs
2016 - Warriors beat Cavs
2017 - Warriors beat Cavs
2018 - Warriors beat Celtics ( i think minus love celtics win in 7 instead. bad reffing first time around )
2019 - Raptors beat Warriors
2020 - Nuggets beat Heat
2021 - Bucks beat Suns


Kobe = 6-2
Lebron = 0-6


so without fraud sh*t Kobe is being argued as 2nd goat right now in every sports talk show and lebrons on pace for elgin baylor status


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[FKAri]

Lebron James

[kennethdrippin]

Lebron James

sucks

[tontoz]

Yeah because Pau Gasol traded for Kwame wasn't shady at all.

:rolleyes:

[ShawkFactory]

Lebron James

You might be on to something here :cheers:

[red1]

OP is like a little kid stuck in his fantasies :roll:


putting on bath towels as a cape and running around his house thinking he's superman like a little kid :roll:

[kennethdrippin]

Yeah because Pau Gasol traded for Kwame wasn't shady at all.

:rolleyes:

oh i'm sorry. i didn't know the grizzlies trying to rebuild with marc gasol and unloading cap was tampering/collusion between pau and kobe demanding to play together which never happened. kobe asked them why they passed on a kidd for bynum offer

he had no say in trades

you lose

[kennethdrippin]

OP is like a little kid stuck in his fantasies :roll:


putting on bath towels as a cape and running around his house thinking he's superman like a little kid :roll:

so you think paul pierces celtics still win in 2008 without KG and ray?

and you also think the heats wade and haslem combo still wins in 2012 and 2013?

and you also think the cavs still get kyrie if lebron never colludes with miami?

sorry i'm confused

[Spurs m8]

Solid thread for the most part

[ShawkFactory]

Also the Curry/Klay/Dray 4peat is bold

[kennethdrippin]

Also the Curry/Klay/Dray 4peat is bold

currys legacy is enhanced quite a bit thats for sure.


i think iggy still steals finals mvp in 2015 and draymond wins it in 2016. then curry wins back to back in 2017 and 2018 most likely


no kyrie.. no problem... hes probly on the timberwolves lol

[ShawkFactory]

currys legacy is enhanced quite a bit thats for sure.


i think iggy still steals finals mvp in 2015 and draymond wins it in 2016. then curry wins back to back in 2017 and 2018 most likely


no kyrie.. no problem... hes probly on the timberwolves lol

Are you considering the Rockets a collusion team in 2018?

Why not the Spurs in 2017?

[red1]

so you think paul pierces celtics still win in 2008 without KG and ray?

and you also think the heats wade and haslem combo still wins in 2012 and 2013?

and you also think the cavs still get kyrie if lebron never colludes with miami?

sorry i'm confused

best in the world from 2009-2020


lebron james

[kawhileonard2]

2008 - Lakers beat Detroit
2009 - Lakers beat Magic
2010 - Lakers beat Cavs
2011 - Mavs beat Cavs
2012 - Thunder beat Pacers
2013 - Spurs beat Pacers
2014 - Spurs beat Pacers
2015 - Warriors beat Cavs
2016 - Warriors beat Cavs
2017 - Warriors beat Cavs
2018 - Warriors beat Celtics ( i think minus love celtics win in 7 instead. bad reffing first time around )
2019 - Raptors beat Warriors
2020 - Nuggets beat Heat
2021 - Bucks beat Suns


Kobe = 6-2
Lebron = 0-6


so without fraud sh*t Kobe is being argued as 2nd goat right now in every sports talk show and lebrons on pace for elgin baylor status


https://media.tenor.com/images/51f3a8583063bf06810e559e72ae307d/tenor.gif

Good thread!

[kennethdrippin]

Are you considering the Rockets a collusion team in 2018?

Why not the Spurs in 2017?

the warriors depth took a big hit going for durant. they actually looked worse as a team overall tbh. they never really needed KD and it was just a retaliation move because of the draymond suspension and kyrie putting the cavs over the top. them forming that big 3 and undercutting the warriors big 3 made the warriors form a big 4 out of spite. so minus lebron screwing up the entire landscape of the nba the warriors natural 73-9 team probably stays in tact and they don't skip a beat in 2017


then they're not in a game 7 with the rockets cause they're still trying to figure out how to play as a top heavy team with KD as the new leader

[Axe]

Let's see how far can you go this time 'til you get banned with your freshly made dup.

[kennethdrippin]

best in the world from 2009-2020


lebron james

2009 no kobe was the best and was for a long time
2010 kobe was the best up until his broken finger/knee injuries ( then lebron took over )
2011 wade was obviously better than lebron
2012 lebron
2013 Kobe was actually better offensively that season IMO
2014 Durant
2015 Lebron
2016 Lebron
2017 Durant
2018 Durant
2019 kawhi cause Durant out
2020 Davis cause durants out
2021 Giannis


lebron was the best player for about 3.1 years but he still shouldn't have a title

[ShawkFactory]

the warriors depth took a big hit going for durant. they actually looked worse as a team overall tbh. they never really needed KD and it was just a retaliation move because of the draymond suspension and kyrie putting the cavs over the top. them forming that big 3 and undercutting the warriors big 3 made the warriors form a big 4 out of spite. so minus lebron screwing up the entire landscape of the nba the warriors natural 73-9 team probably stays in tact and they don't skip a beat in 2017


then they're not in a game 7 with the rockets cause they're still trying to figure out how to play as a top heavy team with KD as the new leader

:lol

[kennethdrippin]

Let's see how far can you go this time 'til you get banned with your freshly made dup.

i get myself banned most of the time tbh

[Axe]

i get myself banned most of the time tbh
An honest observation indeed, kenneth. :oldlol:

[MrFonzworth]

i get myself banned most of the time tbh

That's how it works

[8Ball]

Kobe doesn't win any championships without collusion.

Colluded to get to LA with shaq.

Colluded to get pau gasol for a bag of chips from an ex laker.

[k0kakw0rld]

sucks
Your mom's titties religiously.

[ArbitraryWater]

why not 2007

[And1AllDay]

Lebron James

bang!


OP is like a little kid stuck in his fantasies :roll:


putting on bath towels as a cape and running around his house thinking he's superman like a little kid :roll:

baaaang!!! :oldlol:

[kennethdrippin]

why not 2007

because 2008 was the start of major collusion/ prime superstar team ups

[Smoke117]

There was no collusion with the 2008 Celtics. Also, the only player of the big three you could say was still in his prime is Paul Pierce. Garnett clearly wasn't the player he used to be in 04, 05.

[kennethdrippin]

There was no collusion with the 2008 Celtics. Also, the only player of the big three you could say was still in his prime is Paul Pierce. Garnett clearly wasn't the player he used to be in 04, 05.

garnett said on a podcast that he called kobe trying to collude and he didn't return his calls so he instead colluded with the Celtics. its literally on youtube you moron

and garnett was an mvp candidate in 2008 lmao. they had lesser stats cause big 3s usually do

why haven't you killed yourself yet btw

[DJmicah]

bro this was actually an interesting topic smh. you just had to bring up this kobe lebron narrative

[Smoke117]

garnett said on a podcast that he called kobe trying to collude and he didn't return his calls so he instead colluded with the Celtics. its literally on youtube you moron

and garnett was an mvp candidate in 2008 lmao. they had lesser stats cause big 3s usually do

why haven't you killed yourself yet btw

Garnett already had worse numbers on the twolves moron. 2007 Garnett wasn't what he used to be. And Garnett didn't want to go to the Celtics till they got Ray Allen. That's when he okayed that deal. There was never any actual collusion between the players.

[kennethdrippin]

Garnett already had worse numbers on the twolves moron. 2007 Garnett wasn't what he used to be. And Garnett didn't want to go to the Celtics till they got Ray Allen. That's when he okayed that deal. There was never any actual collusion between the players.

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and sorry. Garnett admitted to attempting collusion then worked out a deal with McHale and his old team to acquire ray allen so he would agree to it. it was collusion/tampering all around. McHale admitted to this on national tv. void