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3ba11
08-06-2021, 01:24 AM
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Pandemic P vs Denver.... 21.7 on 44%... 58.7 TS

Pippen vs 90' Pistons..... 16.6 on 43%... 52.0 TS

Pippen vs 92' Knicks...... 16.0 on 40%... 48.9 TS

Pippen vs 93' Hawks...... 15.0 on 33%... 45.9 TS

Pippen vs 96 Knicks....... 15.6 on 33%... 41.6 TS

Pippen vs 96' Sonics...... 15.7 on 34%... 46.0 TS

Pippen vs 98' Pacers...... 16.6 on 39%... 46.3 TS

Pippen vs 98' Jazz......... 15.7 on 41%... 50.2 TS



Ultimately, 16 points on 50% FG is fine, whereas 16 on 39% is completely wetting the bed.

Pippen is simply the least efficient sidekick ever during the last 4 title runs (93' and 96-98') - literally the worst efficiency of all-time - so the Bulls won the last four titles IN SPITE of pippen, who averaged 17.6 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs

Only Jordan had to win a bunch of rings with a sidekick that was worse than Pandemic P... Pippen was like Westbrook except HALF the production in every category.

Axe
08-06-2021, 01:44 AM
Another meaningless day in op's hopeless life.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-06-2021, 01:45 AM
Single season scoring runs (total points, TS) that resulted in championships:

1992 Michael Jordan: 759 points on 57.1% TS

2012 Lebron James: 697 points on 57.6% TS

2019 Kawhi Leonard: 732 points on 61.9% TS

I would say Kawhi had the greatest single scoring championship run due to 5% TS advantage over Jordan and Lebron as well as 35 more total points then Lebron. Jordan is a runner up due to his 62 point total advantage over Lebron.

SouBeachTalents
08-06-2021, 01:53 AM
Single season scoring runs (total points, TS) that resulted in championships:

1992 Michael Jordan: 759 points on 57.1% TS

2012 Lebron James: 697 points on 57.6% TS

2019 Kawhi Leonard: 732 points on 61.9% TS

I would say Kawhi had the greatest single scoring championship run due to 5% TS advantage over Jordan and Lebron as well as 35 more total points then Lebron. Jordan is a runner up due to his 62 point total advantage over Lebron.
Agreed, 2019 Kawhi > any Jordan playoff run. Hell, even PG won more playoff games without Kawhi in just the Jazz series than Jordan did in his entire career without Pippen

3ba11
08-06-2021, 02:05 AM
Single season scoring runs (total points, TS) that resulted in championships:

1992 Michael Jordan: 759 points on 57.1% TS

2012 Lebron James: 697 points on 57.6% TS

2019 Kawhi Leonard: 732 points on 61.9% TS

I would say Kawhi had the greatest single scoring championship run due to 5% TS advantage over Jordan and Lebron as well as 35 more total points then Lebron. Jordan is a runner up due to his 62 point total advantage over Lebron.


^^^ all those guys had good efficiency, whereas Pippen had many series with 40-49% true shooting, or 33-42% FG - that's the worst efficiency ever for a winning sidekick - unbelievably bad - it's so bad that it seems like fake numbers.. hard to appreciate how bad that is.

Ultimately, 16 points on 50% is fine, while 16 on 39% is completely wetting the bed.. And that's what Pippen did for entire playoff runs - the Bulls won those last 4 titles in spite of Pippen.

3ba11
08-06-2021, 02:19 AM
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Thread Cliffs'


Players aren't normally compared to each other if one guy has a 5-7 point advantage in PPG and a massive edge in efficiency, so Pippen doesn't deserve a comparison to guys like Pandemic P or Gary Payton, and is below that caliber (below 2nd tier)

SouBeachTalents
08-06-2021, 02:25 AM
Thread Cliffs'


OP is a fakkit

3ba11
08-06-2021, 02:28 AM
Thread Cliffs'


OP is a fakkit


Pippen was really a 3rd or 4th option, as we saw outside the triangle, so Pippen's status as 2nd option shows how horrible the Bulls' cast was, and his worst-ever efficiency confirms that he usually couldn't handle that load.'

carry on believing what YOU want though..

ImKobe
08-06-2021, 04:09 AM
Paul George is clearly better than Pippen. He can rebound, pass & play defense almost as well as Pip while being a much better scorer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5BVYJCWQAQkYGz.jpg

Axe
08-06-2021, 04:26 AM
Paul George is clearly better than Pippen. He can rebound, pass & play defense almost as well as Pip while being a much better scorer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5BVYJCWQAQkYGz.jpg
:roll:

ImKobe
08-06-2021, 04:32 AM
:roll:

I mean, what's there to even debate? George is the much better athlete, ball-handler & shooter. He's so fluid with the ball at his size. He's better in the paint, mid-range and especially from 3. He averaged 30/11/6 post-Kawhi's injury.

ArbitraryWater
08-06-2021, 04:39 AM
I mean, what's there to even debate? George is the much better athlete, ball-handler & shooter. He's so fluid with the ball at his size. He's better in the paint, mid-range and especially from 3. He averaged 30/11/6 post-Kawhi's injury.

none of these stats need any adjusting now do they? hehe

RRR3
08-06-2021, 05:08 AM
Paul George is clearly better than Pippen. He can rebound, pass & play defense almost as well as Pip while being a much better scorer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5BVYJCWQAQkYGz.jpg
Yes, clearly PG is in the same class as MJ Kobe and Durant :rolleyes:

72-10
08-06-2021, 05:13 AM
Another meaningless day in op's hopeless life.

Yes, hopeless and forlorn for Michael. Perhaps Pandemic P is Paul George alter-ego.

72-10
08-06-2021, 05:17 AM
Paul George is clearly better than Pippen. He can rebound, pass & play defense almost as well as Pip while being a much better scorer.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5BVYJCWQAQkYGz.jpg

I thought Kareem accomplished this?

ImKobe
08-06-2021, 06:04 AM
none of these stats need any adjusting now do they? hehe

You can adust all you want but George is better when looking at his athleticism, ball-handling & pure shooting ability.


Yes, clearly PG is in the same class as MJ Kobe and Durant :rolleyes:

Not really because he's not consistent enough but he's clearly a better scorer than Pippen, who was even inefficient & a 2nd tier scorer in his era. You'll see it this season with Kawhi out & PG in a #1 scoring role.

Manny98
08-06-2021, 06:22 AM
They're about equal

George the better scorer

Pippen is the better defender and playmaker

zeerghit
08-06-2021, 09:50 AM
Another meaningless day in op's hopeless life.

damn u r fu*king smart poster

3ba11
08-06-2021, 06:42 PM
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