The flu vaccine exists 80 years..

[LAL]

Why can we still get the flu?

[Gohan]

Why can we still get the flu?

:cheers:

[PistonsFan#21]

Because of the antivaxxers...duh

[FKAri]

Fire has existed before us. Why can we still get burned?

[LAL]

Fire has existed before us. Why can we still get burned?

I don't see any vaccine against fire, and nobody forcing me to take one.

[FKAri]

I don't see any vaccine against fire, and nobody forcing me to take one.

Are you asking why it hasn't died out or why can those who get vaccinated still get it?

[8Ball]

Because the Flu keeps mutating.

The original spanish flu virus is different then the mutations coming out H1N1, swine flu, etc.

This is information you can find with google.

Don't need to ask and show us how dumb you are.

[bladefd]

Why can we still get the flu?

It's called evolution.

[n00bie]

Because the Flu keeps mutating.

The original spanish flu virus is different then the mutations coming out H1N1, swine flu, etc.

This is information you can find with google.

Don't need to ask and show us how dumb you are.

I'm pretty sure we learned this in grade 9 science class lol

[LAL]

Around 2500 young adults died from the flu in the US back in 2018-19 (couldn't find more recent for some odd reason). Should i worry guys? Nobody talks about it on the news, i don't even know how to ask for a flu shot? Some even told me it's not worth it? Is 2500 deaths among younger adults too small a number for me to worry like this?

[And1AllDay]

Around 2500 young adults died from the flu in the US back in 2018-19 (couldn't find more recent for some odd reason). Should i worry guys? Nobody talks about it on the news, i don't even know how to ask for a flu shot? Some even told me it's not worth it? Is 2500 deaths among younger adults too small a number for me to worry like this?

stop. posting.

[And1AllDay]

Because the Flu keeps mutating.

The original spanish flu virus is different then the mutations coming out H1N1, swine flu, etc.

This is information you can find with google.

Don't need to ask and show us how dumb you are.

bingo

[ZenMaster]

Because the Flu keeps mutating.

The original spanish flu virus is different then the mutations coming out H1N1, swine flu, etc.

This is information you can find with google.

Don't need to ask and show us how dumb you are.

The real question is what would happen in any given year, if you started mass testing for Influenza A and B, even catching the symptomless occurrences, and then said that everyone who dies within 30 days of a positive test is due to influenza.

[Norcaliblunt]

It’s called bullshit. Your body creates a virus when bacteria, fungus, and parasites can’t do the job of eating all the toxic shit, and dead cells from the body then excrete it. So you need a heavy duty solvent (a virus) to flush the system through puking, mucus, sweating, loss of senses, diarrhea, pissing, yada yada yada. If you really fricking toxic, old , and comprised yeah you might want to kill this process but for most peeps you endure and come out better on the other end.

We live in the most sanitized times ever. But as global warmers will agree we live in the most polluted toxic times ever as well. Go figure. What’s killing you holmez?

[Norcaliblunt]

The real question is what would happen in any given year, if you started mass testing for Influenza A and B, even catching the symptomless occurrences, and then said that everyone who dies within 30 days of a positive test is due to influenza.

And that’s what’s up. These viruses are everywhere in everybody for different reasons or another at any time. Bacteria parasites and fungus too.

Now if we wanna talk about people testing positive for mercury, plastic, nutritional deficiency, stress, mental illness, hormonal imbalances then we might make progress.

[Manny98]

Vaccines are a scam they don't protect you from anything never did

Big Pharma have made billions off of this lie

[BigKobeFan]

Vaccines are a scam they don't protect you from anything never did

Big Pharma have made billions off of this lie

I do believe in vaccines like the smallpox ones, measles, cow pox, shit like that

But this covid one. Hell no

[Norcaliblunt]

I do believe in vaccines like the smallpox ones, measles, cow pox, shit like that

But this covid one. Hell no

Because you stupid. It’s all bullshit. If they rigged it now they rigged it then.

[PistonsFan#21]

Because you stupid. It’s all bullshit. If they rigged it now they rigged it then.

The difference is that those other vaccines were actually tested for years before being released and they actually worked on stopping the spreading of the virus, not just on lessening the symptoms for the infected person.

[Manny98]

Educate yourself


https://youtu.be/QwlWwy-PrGo

[8Ball]

It's called evolution.

Yup. Viruses evolve because that's how they survive. Like any other organism.


I'm pretty sure we learned this in grade 9 science class lol

They taught us this shit in elementary school


Vaccines are a scam they don't protect you from anything never did

Big Pharma have made billions off of this lie

You are a knuckle dragger.

Look at the death numbers from UK between 1st, 2nd waves compared to this wave.

It's not disputable anymore.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

[Norcaliblunt]

Yup. Viruses evolve because that's how they survive. Like any other organism.

Viruses are not alive or an organism.

[Kungfro]

It’s called bullshit. Your body creates a virus when bacteria, fungus, and parasites can’t do the job of eating all the tox⁸ic shit, and dead cells from the body then excrete it. So you need a heavy duty solvent (a virus) to flush the system through puking, mucus, sweating, loss of senses, diarrhea, pissing, yada yada yada. If you really fricking toxic, old , and comprised yeah you might want to kill this process but for most peeps you endure and come out better on the other end.

We live in the most sanitized times ever. But as global warmers will agree we live in the most polluted toxic times ever as well. Go figure. What’s killing you holmez?

Ah yes, "toxins", the answer to all that ails you. I have some snake oil I could sell you, clear those toxins right up.

[Norcaliblunt]

Ah yes, "toxins", the answer to all that ails you. I have some snake oil I could sell you, clear those toxins right up.

Ah yeah “viruses” the answer to all that ails you. I have a vaccine (snake oil) I could sell you, clear those viruses right up.

Two can play this game sucka.

I trust science. And science says there’s never been more antibiotics, sanitizers, and chlorine in the water in all of human history. Science also says our planet has never been so polluted with toxic waste, plastic, and emissions either. Do the math or science fool.

[Norcaliblunt]

Ah yes, "toxins", the answer to all that ails you. I have some snake oil I could sell you, clear those toxins right up.

What’s crazy is the virus is the antidote to the toxicity. So you don’t even need the snake oil. It’s called just get sick and flush the system. Pretty basic actually.

[bladefd]

Viruses are not alive or an organism.

Viruses have many of the qualities of a living thing. They have genetic material like dna, can reproduce through infection host, can experience evolution over generations, can be infected by other viruses in many cases, etc.

Only thing they don't do that all other living things do is produce/use their own energy and self-reproduce without a host to feed on. They only exist as long as they have a host's energy to feed on and use the host's cells to convert to more viruses.

So they are both living and non-living "beings". It is more like a machine but a machine able to get infected by other viruses so it has very much living qualities. Ultimately, they can and still do evolve, which is the key fact to this discussion.

[BurningHammer]

Viruses are not alive or an organism.

It depends.


Scientific opinions differ on whether viruses are a form of life or organic structures that interact with living organisms.[11] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#cite_note-pmid26965225-11) They have been described as "organisms at the edge of life",[10] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#cite_note-ReferenceA-10) since they resemble organisms in that they possess genes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genes), evolve by natural selection (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection),[67] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#cite_note-pmid17914905-67) and reproduce by creating multiple copies of themselves through self-assembly. Although they have genes, they do not have a cellular structure, which is often seen as the basic unit of life. Viruses do not have their own metabolism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism) and require a host cell to make new products. They therefore cannot naturally reproduce outside a host cell[68] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#cite_note-pmid20010599-68)—although some bacteria such as rickettsia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickettsia) and chlamydia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlamydia_(genus)) are considered living organisms despite the same limitation.[69] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#cite_note-pmid18473699-69)[70] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#cite_note-pmid19016440-70) Accepted forms of life use cell division (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_division) to reproduce, whereas viruses spontaneously assemble within cells. They differ from autonomous growth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organisation) of crystals (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystallization) as they inherit genetic mutations while being subject to natural selection. Virus self-assembly within host cells has implications for the study of the origin of life (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life), as it lends further credence to the hypothesis that life could have started as self-assembling organic molecules (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_self-assembly).

[8Ball]

Viruses have many of the qualities of a living thing. They have genetic material like dna, can reproduce through infection host, can experience evolution over generations, can be infected by other viruses in many cases, etc.

Only thing they don't do that all other living things do is produce/use their own energy and self-reproduce without a host to feed on. They only exist as long as they have a host's energy to feed on and use the host's cells to convert to more viruses.

So they are both living and non-living "beings". It is more like a machine but a machine able to get infected by other viruses so it has very much living qualities. Ultimately, they can and still do evolve, which is the key fact to this discussion.


Bladefd intellectual as always.

[8Ball]

Because you stupid. It’s all bullshit. If they rigged it now they rigged it then.

Tell me how the vaccines are bullshit and give me data.

[Norcaliblunt]

Viruses have many of the qualities of a living thing. They have genetic material like dna, can reproduce through infection host, can experience evolution over generations, can be infected by other viruses in many cases, etc.

Only thing they don't do that all other living things do is produce/use their own energy and self-reproduce without a host to feed on. They only exist as long as they have a host's energy to feed on and use the host's cells to convert to more viruses.

So they are both living and non-living "beings". It is more like a machine but a machine able to get infected by other viruses so it has very much living qualities. Ultimately, they can and still do evolve, which is the key fact to this discussion.

On their own viruses don’t have cells, can’t replicate, and don’t use energy. They are not alive in any traditional sense of an “organism” so they don’t just evolve like any other “organism”. Because they aren’t an organism. Which dude said they were.

[Kungfro]

What’s crazy is the virus is the antidote to the toxicity. So you don’t even need the snake oil. It’s called just get sick and flush the system. Pretty basic actually.

You can't even explain what toxins are, it's become such a vague term that you might as well say voodoo or bad energy. It's a word pseudoscience has latched onto to hawk fake medicines or fad diets. I bet you think regular colon cleansing actually does something too.

[Norcaliblunt]

You can't even explain what toxins are, it's become such a vague term that you might as well say voodoo or bad energy. It's a word pseudoscience has latched onto to hawk fake medicines or fad diets. I bet you think regular colon cleansing actually does something too.

You can’t even explain what viruses are (you think they are alive lol), it's become such a vague term that you might as well say voodoo or bad energy. It's a word pseudoscience has latched onto to hawk fake medicines and vaccines. I bet you think regular booster shots, pills, and masks actually do something too.

[bladefd]

On their own viruses don’t have cells, can’t replicate, and don’t use energy. They are not alive in any traditional sense of an “organism” so they don’t just evolve like any other “organism”. Because they aren’t an organism. Which dude said they were.

They use the energy of their host, and they replicate by corrupting the cells of their host. It's like hijacking a printing press and printing out your own money using a machine & facility owned by someone else. They have something resembling a cell, but it's not called a cell since the insides are missing a lot of things like nucleus and other organelles (I forget the exact terms).

They evolve through the generations by altering their DNA through pretty much natural selection. Remember I said that viruses have their own genetic material like DNA? The most successful viruses survive and those pass down the genetic material - the less successful die out and don't pass on their genetic material. That is how evolution works and viruses have that quality. They can also mutate, which is another mechanism of evolution that we see in viruses. Something exhibiting both processes of evolution is straight-up evolution.

[8Ball]

They use the energy of their host, and they replicate by corrupting the cells of their host. It's like hijacking a printing press and printing out your own money using a machine & facility owned by someone else. They have something resembling a cell, but it's not called a cell since the insides are missing a lot of things like nucleus and other organelles (I forget the exact terms).

They evolve through the generations by altering their DNA through pretty much natural selection. Remember I said that viruses have their own genetic material like DNA? The most successful viruses survive and those pass down the genetic material - the less successful die out and don't pass on their genetic material. That is how evolution works and viruses have that quality. They can also mutate, which is another mechanism of evolution that we see in viruses. Something exhibiting both processes of evolution is straight-up evolution.

But but but THEY AREN'T ORGANISMS!!!!


Therefore these vaccines are fake news!