iggy says he deserved 15' fmvp, ariza backs him up

[And1AllDay]

https://youtu.be/u0T1_XK0DwA

[HylianNightmare]

Gotta admire the confidence

[And1AllDay]

Gotta admire the confidence

brutal for curry fans right?

[ArbitraryWater]

chill youre making it seem like he was confident in it

he pondered over it and came to the conclusion he probably did..

[3ba11]

he didn't

[kennygriffin]

steph was the best player in the series. iguodala was the mvp in the series


for all the games steph was better. for the wins iggy was better

he deserved that mvp. lebron over the last 3 games was atrocious. 29% outside of 5 feet

[ELITEpower23]

steph was the best player in the series. iguodala was the mvp in the series


for all the games steph was better. for the wins iggy was better

he deserved that mvp. lebron over the last 3 games was atrocious. 29% outside of 5 feet

The consensus is that LeBron is so great that holding him to 36/13/9 is an accomplishment and deserving of a FMVP

[kennygriffin]

The consensus is that LeBron is so great that holding him to 36/13/9 is an accomplishment and deserving of a FMVP

here's the thing though. him gunning for stats while being the worst midrange player ever in a finals is why they lost. had he averaged 20 they probly have a shot

[3ba11]

steph was the best player in the series. iguodala was the mvp in the series


for all the games steph was better. for the wins iggy was better

he deserved that mvp. lebron over the last 3 games was atrocious. 29% outside of 5 feet


Lebron does that A LOT - not worthy of FMVP for iggy

Lebron was never going to win with the style he was employing - the Warriors were going to solve him regardless of who was guarding him - Lebron can't shoot well at high volume like that - insufficient jumpshooting skill

[ELITEpower23]

here's the thing though. him gunning for stats while being the worst midrange player ever in a finals is why they lost. had he averaged 20 they probly have a shot

Again, holding LeBron to 36/13/9 is considered an "amazing feat" worthy of winning a FMVP. Let that sink in.

[3ba11]

Again, holding LeBron to 36/13/9 is considered an "amazing feat" worthy of winning a FMVP. Let that sink in.


It's one of the many times the Rachel Nichols clique got it wrong - they're just dumb journalism majors and don't know what's actually going on

Lebron can't shoot well at high volume - it doesn't matter who is guarding him

[ELITEpower23]

It's one of the many times the Rachel Nichols clique got it wrong - they're just dumb journalism majors and don't know what's actually going on

Tissue?

[3ba11]

Tissue?


lebron shot poorly against everyone in those playoffs... warriors were going to beat that trash regardless

[kennygriffin]

Again, holding LeBron to 36/13/9 is considered an "amazing feat" worthy of winning a FMVP. Let that sink in.

again. if you shoot 39% overall with 29% beyond 5 feet then averaging 36 is actually bad unless you can manufacture points at the free throw line... which he also can't do very well

[ELITEpower23]

again. if you shoot 39% overall with 29% beyond 5 feet then averaging 36 is actually bad unless you can manufacture points at the free throw line... which he also can't do very well

I don't need basketball tips from the biggest clown on this site going on this 18th account.

[kennygriffin]

I don't need basketball tips from the biggest clown on this site going on this 18th account.

think of it this way. if I wasn't a threat like lebron23 I would still be on my first account. when you're full of knowledge like myself it scares a lebron fan run forum. just look at realgm. they take it to the next level. me stepping foot in there sets off alarms in the admins houses

[Cyrus334]

Shut up Iggy, you only won it because the media was butt hurt about not being able to give it to Lebron so they gave it to his primary defender that made him inefficient, despite him still posting godly stats. Steph definitely deserved it over you.

[Norcaliblunt]

He deserved it. But Steph at least deserved one vote.

[Overdrive]

for all the games steph was better. for the wins iggy was better


By that logic Pau was FMVP in '10.

Curry was the clear cut FMVP, but they did two things:

Hand it to Lebron by proxy of Iggy and giving it to a role player was a feelgood story. Someone even said it on air that they believed Curry will go on to win an FMVP later on anyway. Well didn't turn out like that.

[ELITEpower23]

By that logic Pau was FMVP in '10.

Curry was the clear cut FMVP, but they did two things:

Hand it to Lebron by proxy of Iggy and giving it to a role player was a feelgood story. Someone even said it on air that they believed Curry will go on to win an FMVP later on anyway. Well didn't turn out like that.

If Curry closed the door in 4 or 5 then he wins FMVP easily but he let doubt creep in.

Warriors took a 1-0 lead and Kyrie got hurt late in game 1. From that moment forward LeBron was without Kyrie or Love and the Warriors should have won in 4 or maybe 5 games but they let LeBron take a 2-1 lead and that is what snatched the FMVP away from Curry. Better luck next time Cuckry.

[kennygriffin]

By that logic Pau was FMVP in '10.

Curry was the clear cut FMVP, but they did two things:

Hand it to Lebron by proxy of Iggy and giving it to a role player was a feelgood story. Someone even said it on air that they believed Curry will go on to win an FMVP later on anyway. Well didn't turn out like that.

iggy held lebron to 39%fg's and 29% from beyond 5 feet

thats why his 20ppg was enough in the last 3 wins to outdo steph for mvp

he guarded the best scorer

kobe in 2010 basically turned ray allen into a piece of dog shot averaging 36% fg's and locked him up in game 3 making ray go 0 for 13 for his worst game of his entire hall of fame career. he also averaged exactly 10 rebounds per game in the 4 laker victories with 15 in game 7

kobe was basically iggy defensively for the lakers and instead of him doing it with 20ppg he did it with almost 30ppg

[Axe]

He's the catalyst for the warriors winning three games in a row after game 3 of 2015 finals. And thus, it seems stopping at setting up more screens to make more threes didn't do that much wonders at all.

[hold this L]

iggy held lebron to 39%fg's and 29% from beyond 5 feet

thats why his 20ppg was enough in the last 3 wins to outdo steph for mvp

he guarded the best scorer

kobe in 2010 basically turned ray allen into a piece of dog shot averaging 36% fg's and locked him up in game 3 making ray go 0 for 13 for his worst game of his entire hall of fame career. he also averaged exactly 10 rebounds per game in the 4 laker victories with 15 in game 7

kobe was basically iggy defensively for the lakers and instead of him doing it with 20ppg he did it with almost 30ppg

He averaged 16, not 20PPG. If defense mattered that much for scorers, Kobe would have as many FMVP votes as Curry did.

[FKAri]

I believe it was a case of, "this guy's not going to get credit for what he did so I'm going to vote for him".

...except the majority of voters thought this.

[Stephonit]

Dre deserved the award. It's like what Michael Caine said to Tom Cruise when Caine got his Oscar.

[hold this L]

Dre deserved the award. It's like what Michael Caine said to Tom Cruise when Caine got his Oscar.

What movie is this?

[kennygriffin]

He averaged 16, not 20PPG. If defense mattered that much for scorers, Kobe would have as many FMVP votes as Curry did.


kobes finals matchups

reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's



meanwhile curry lets kyrie go off for 28ppg on almost 50% fg's and gets the title winning shot drained in his face




and i said iggy averaged 20ppg in the last 3 wins... 19ppg for the entire 4. he did his part offensively. theres no way the warriors win without lebron being handcuffed on the way to the basket and being forced to settle for mid range bricks

[hold this L]

kobes finals matchups

reggies 2000 finals = 41%fgs
M Jackson 2000 finals = 41% fg's
iversons 2001 finals = 40%fgs
snow 2001 finals = 40%fgs
mckie 2001 finals = 31%fg's
bell 2001 finals = 30%fg's
kidds 2002 finals = 43%fg's
Hamilton 2004 finals = 40%fg's
prince 2004 finals = 38%fg's
pierce 2008 finals = 43%fg's
Rondo 2008 finals = 37%fg's
Alston 2009 finals = 36%fg's
lee 2009 finals = 37%fg's
reddick 2009 finals = 40%fg's
nelson 2009 finals = 34%fg's
pierce 2010 finals = 43%fg's
ray 2010 finals = 36%fg's
tony allen 2010 finals = 33%fg's



meanwhile curry lets kyrie go off for 28ppg on almost 50% fg's and gets the title winning shot drained in his face




and i said iggy averaged 20ppg in the last 3 wins... 19ppg for the entire 4. he did his part offensively. theres no way the warriors win without lebron being handcuffed on the way to the basket and being forced to settle for mid range bricks

What the f*ck is the entire 4, you cherry picking dumbass? Here's Lebron's TS % throughout the playoffs in 2015

48% vs Warriors (without both his stars)
51% vs Hawks
46% vs the Bulls
53% vs Celtics

Lebron is a historically great scorer in the playoffs, but he shot like shit that entire PS run. Noone has said that Iggy hasn't scored in the series, it helps when absolutely nobody is respecting you since the guy they're double teaming is 10 feet away from the 3PT line. And yes Kyrie had a great series vs an injured player, what are the PG numbers and scoring % against Curry in other PS series? Or any other year that he didn't get injured in the beginning of the PS?

[Stephonit]

What movie is this?

Not a movie Caine's acceptance speech. The award isn't what it's cracked up to be.

[kennygriffin]

What the f*ck is the entire 4, you cherry picking dumbass? Here's Lebron's TS % throughout the playoffs in 2015

48% vs Warriors (without both his stars)
51% vs Hawks
46% vs the Bulls
53% vs Celtics

Lebron is a historically great scorer in the playoffs, but he shot like shit that entire PS run. Noone has said that Iggy hasn't scored in the series, it helps when absolutely nobody is respecting you since the guy they're double teaming is 10 feet away from the 3PT line. And yes Kyrie had a great series vs an injured player, what are the PG numbers and scoring % against Curry in other PS series? Or any other year that he didn't get injured in the beginning of the PS?

how on earth do you think that what you do in a loss counts towards a championship

you don't count up losses towards your total lol


and i watched the series. lebron couldn't do anything against iggy except settle for contested jumpers that he bricked 70% of the time

his totals are only due to his usage

[SaintzFury13]

The consensus is that LeBron is so great that holding him to 36/13/9 is an accomplishment and deserving of a FMVP

LeBron's efficiency in that series was atrocious. After game 3 his big numbers became meaningless because his teammates were exhausted at that point and they didn't have the bodies to respond to Golden State going small ball.

[SaintzFury13]

Lebron does that A LOT

His TS% for his career is 58%, so no he doesn't. People don't seem to realize that performances like that and the one against Dallas were rarities for him. He isn't Chris Paul from mid range but he's normally always been a pretty decent to good shooter after his first few years in the league.

[hold this L]

how on earth do you think that what you do in a loss counts towards a championship

you don't count up losses towards your total lol


and i watched the series. lebron couldn't do anything against iggy except settle for contested jumpers that he bricked 70% of the time

his totals are only due to his usage

Lebron didn't have a good playoff year, not finals. Iggy defended extremely him well, but Bron was shit when Kevin went out. Averaged 48, 51 and 46 vs the Bulls, which is even worse than the Warriors. He had Kyrie for that series. You can post the FGs numbers all you want but if defense was the main driver, Kobe would have 0 FMVPs. Gasol was the clear better and more impactful defender by some distance in those finals.


You mentioning him scoring 20 shows what an idiot you are. Barnes, Klay and Andre had a ton of space to shoot because unlike Lebron, Curry was getting double teamed all series giving space to everyone. If Steph was defended how Lebron was (1 on 1 all series), he averages 35-40 in the finals. Those guys shot and did as well as they did because the entire defensive structure was put to slow down one person, and it sure wasn't Andre Iguadala. People act like Andre changed the series when he started, despite him averaging 3 more minutes per game once the switch happened. The only two reasons this series went to 6 was because Warriors were new to the championship runs so they were nervous being in a final, and Curry was garbage for 1 1/2 games (g2 and first half of g3). Once Curry pulled his head out of his ass, the series was a wrap. It wasn't that Iggy scoring his 5th open shot in a row to show what a dominant scorer he is.

[kennygriffin]

Lebron didn't have a good playoff year, not finals. Iggy defended extremely him well, but Bron was shit when Kevin went out. Averaged 48, 51 and 46 vs the Bulls, which is even worse than the Warriors. He had Kyrie for that series. You can post the FGs numbers all you want but if defense was the main driver, Kobe would have 0 FMVPs. Gasol was the clear better and more impactful defender by some distance in those finals.


You mentioning him scoring 20 shows what an idiot you are. Barnes, Klay and Andre had a ton of space to shoot because unlike Lebron, Curry was getting double teamed all series giving space to everyone. If Steph was defended how Lebron was (1 on 1 all series), he averages 35-40 in the finals. Those guys shot and did as well as they did because the entire defensive structure was put to slow down one person, and it sure wasn't Andre Iguadala.



the problem is before iggy started defending lebron and was placed in the starting lineup he was getting to the basket and getting fouled all the time

he averaged 13ft's the first 3 games ( making 10 cause he was comfortable )

then vs iggy he averaged 9ft's ( making just 5 per game cause he was shook )

he could no longer make up for his poor efficiency



also he shot 35% threes in the first 3 games

then shot 27% threes in the last 3 games


its obvious iggys perimeter defense was the difference maker

[hold this L]

Curry has shot better in 2015 finals than every single final in Kobe's inefficient chucking career except for the sweep series in 2002. This was the series he was supposedly stopped, I wonder what Kobe has been doing in the meantime. Better than 4/6 of Jordan's finals, and 6/9 of Lebron's.

The entire award for 2015 shows the low IQ of both the idiots that voted for it & people like Kenny who keeps scrambling with double standards that he applies to players so he can try to make sense.

[DevBooker'sMask]

think of it this way. if I wasn't a threat like lebron23 I would still be on my first account. when you're full of knowledge like myself it scares a lebron fan run forum. just look at realgm. they take it to the next level. me stepping foot in there sets off alarms in the admins houses

I am a poster on Real GM and I do not need to disclose my account name over there but do you really think the reason you set off alarms is because you don't like LeBron because I can tell you it's definitely something else that noticeably borders on obsession and trolling.

[hold this L]

the problem is before iggy started defending lebron and was placed in the starting lineup he was getting to the basket and getting fouled all the time

he averaged 13ft's the first 3 games ( making 10 cause he was comfortable )

then vs iggy he averaged 9ft's ( making just 5 per game cause he was shook )

he could no longer make up for his poor efficiency



also he shot 35% threes in the first 3 games

then shot 27% threes in the last 3 games


its obvious iggys perimeter defense was the difference maker

That literally makes no sense. He took less FTs, but he made less of them because he was shook? Couldn't possibly be that Warriors gameplan was to tire Bron out over time and gas him like the coaches said after the series, but coach Kenny here.. he really knows what Lebron was thinking people.

[kennygriffin]

That literally makes no sense. He took less FTs, but he made less of them because he was shook? Couldn't possibly be that Warriors gameplan was to tire Bron out over time and gas him like the coaches said after the series, but coach Kenny here.. he really knows what Lebron was thinking people.

are you seriously questioning lebrons fragile mindset

https://media1.tenor.com/images/dcbee9307edde301d5f984930c506d40/tenor.gif?itemid=14338040

[Axe]

I am a poster on Real GM and I do not need to disclose my account name over there but do you really think the reason you set off alarms is because you don't like LeBron because I can tell you it's definitely something else that noticeably borders on obsession and trolling.
You get to see mj and lbj stans make their own threads about their respective heroes here each day then trolls from the other faction throw shit against each other too. They're all insane no how much they sugar coat their narratives just to prop up one over the other.