knowing what we know now how good is a weak 90s ring really?

[And1AllDay]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?

[Mask the Embiid]

I put a higher value on a 2010’s summer league championship than a 90s ring

Hell the 2020 Iowa energy would run roughshot over the entire league in the 90’s. The game is just leaps and bounds….light
-centuries ahead of the 90s “mud ball” “jail ball” “paint ball” “bodybuilder ball”

[ScottieQuitting]

More valuable than bubble chips and franchise hopping deck stacking where players have to ASK for respect :roll: :roll:

[And1AllDay]

I put a higher value on a 2010’s summer league championship than a 90s ring

Hell the 2020 Iowa energy would run roughshot over the entire league in the 90’s. The game is just leaps and bounds….light
-centuries ahead of the 90s “mud ball” “jail ball” “paint ball” “bodybuilder ball”

mask staaaays body baggin 90s disney mikey mouse fans :oldlol:


damn he said even iowa :roll:

[And1AllDay]

More valuable than bubble chips and franchise hopping deck stacking where players have to ASK for respect :roll: :roll:

hang in there bud

knowing what we know now how good is a weak 90s ring really?

[2much_knowledge]

More valuable than bubble chips and franchise hopping deck stacking where players have to ASK for respect :roll: :roll:

This. Its done

[Axe]

I put a higher value on a 2010’s summer league championship than a 90s ring

Hell the 2020 Iowa energy would run roughshot over the entire league in the 90’s. The game is just leaps and bounds….light
-centuries ahead of the 90s “mud ball” “jail ball” “paint ball” “bodybuilder ball”
Embiid will never win a championship.

[Spurs m8]

More valuable than bubble chips and franchise hopping deck stacking where players have to ASK for respect :roll: :roll:

This

Also, strong enough that it's still triggering OP on the daily, decades later :roll:

Ops life revolves around these rings hahhahhah

[3ba11]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdduWTL4e1E

[And1AllDay]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?

anyone?

[MadDog]

knowing what we know now how good is a weak 90s ring really?

We? You need more people, OP :confusedshrug:

[Manny98]

Worth as much as LeBrons colluded superteam rings

At least MJ won without quitting to team up with 2 other superstars, not once but twice :facepalm

[Spurs m8]

Worth as much as LeBrons colluded superteam rings

At least MJ won without quitting to team up with 2 other superstars, not once but twice :facepalm

Manny and Bison....

ISH 2 MIPs

[Manny98]

More valuable than bubble chips and franchise hopping deck stacking where players have to ASK for respect :roll: :roll:
3 colluded superteam team rings
1 bubble ring where he didn't even lead his team in scoring through the playoffs

Yikes :oldlol:

[Manny98]

Manny and Bison....

ISH 2 MIPs

:cheers:

[MadDog]

3 colluded superteam team rings
1 bubble ring where he didn't even lead his team in scoring through the playoffs

Yikes :oldlol:

Yo weren't you like the biggest LeBron fan? Switching up like a chameleon lol

[ScottieQuitting]

Yo weren't you like the biggest LeBron fan? Switching up like a chameleon lol

The same way LeBron is a cowardly NBA franchise interloper. It’s funny, I just made a similar post to him in a different thread.

[And1AllDay]

Yo weren't you like the biggest LeBron fan? Switching up like a chameleon lol

hes one of those bicurious people cant figure himself out :oldlol:

[ScottieQuitting]

hes one of those bicurious people cant figure himself out :oldlol:

So a typical LeBron Fan. Makes sense

[Spurs m8]

Yo weren't you like the biggest LeBron fan? Switching up like a chameleon lol

He saw the light

Can't fault him for that

Not switching as much as LeChameleon

[MadDog]

He saw the light

Can't fault him for that

Not switching as much as LeChameleon

:oldlol: :oldlol:

[deathawaitu]

If a beta boy like Lebron is one of the top players in the current era

Just shows how great the 90 era truly is.

The big boys era

[Spurs m8]

If a beta boy like Lebron is one of the top players in the current era

Just shows how great the 90 era truly is.

The big boys era

Imagine LeBron playing against some of those tough 80s or 90s teams lmfao

[And1AllDay]

If a beta boy like Lebron is one of the top players in the current era

Just shows how great the 90 era truly is.

The big boys era

mikes era :oldlol::oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv7NrgJG/is_this_tru_mike..png

[8Ball]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?

Only 1 superteam in the 90s and it was the Bulls. That's how weak it was. About as weak as the 70s which barely had any superteams.

80s had super teams.
00s had super teams.
10s
20s

[And1AllDay]

Only 1 superteam in the 90s and it was the Bulls. That's how weak it was. About as weak as the 70s which barely had any superteams.

80s had super teams.
00s had super teams.
10s
20s

i give mikes ring .40 credit so he has 2.4 modern rings

https://i.postimg.cc/PxDWrLNT/6plastics.png

[And1AllDay]

If a beta boy like Lebron is one of the top players in the current era

Just shows how great the 90 era truly is.

The big boys era

https://i.postimg.cc/wTBvPLQh/MJ-90s-no-double-era.png

is this 90s ball era? :oldlol:

[TheMan]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?
Daily meltdowns are a thing with you nowadays...

Sad!

[And1AllDay]

Daily meltdowns are a thing with you nowadays...

Sad!

facts are not meltdowns

but your response is :oldlol:

[theman93]

mikes era :oldlol::oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv7NrgJG/is_this_tru_mike..png

Why does Starks being a former grocery bagger mean he was weak competition?

Kurt Warner was also a grocery bagger before he became a 2x MVP, a Super Bowl champion, and a Super Bowl MVP. Was he weak competition?

[And1AllDay]

Why does Starks being a former grocery bagger mean he was weak competition?



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[Spurs m8]

Why does Starks being a former grocery bagger mean he was weak competition?

Kurt Warner was also a grocery bagger before he became a 2x MVP, a Super Bowl champion, and a Super Bowl MVP. Was he weak competition?

Exactly....it literally has nothing to do with anything lmao

[theman93]

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Was Kurt Warner, a former grocery bagger, weak competition?

[And1AllDay]

Was Kurt Warner, a former grocery bagger, weak competition?

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[theman93]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3orif2xzQCWBqwTUbK/giphy.gif

That's what I thought. Good talk.

/thread

[And1AllDay]

That's what I thought. Good talk.

/thread

john starks :oldlol: mikey mouse disney rival

[DoctorP]

Meh.

Talent was fine in the 90s. The playing field was even. It was just a different style.

Im sure dream team 1 would wipe the floor with this years Olympians.

[And1AllDay]

Meh.

Talent was fine in the 90s. The playing field was even. It was just a different style.

Im sure dream team 1 would wipe the floor with this years Olympians.

pippen was better then most #1 options but you said the playing field was even? :oldlol:

doc p.....

[Smoke117]

Stop making a thread for every dumb shit thought that comes into your half wit brain.

[DoctorP]

pippen was better then most #1 options but you said the playing field was even? :oldlol:

doc p.....

Nah pip wasn't that good. Slap yourself. Pip had like 1 great year and then he pulled that weak shit not going into the game.

[And1AllDay]

Stop making a thread for every dumb shit thought that comes into your half wit brain.

https://i.postimg.cc/NMBvcNcc/smoke-fail.png

[DoctorP]

Yeah talent in every era is about even. It's when you compare eras where shit is impossible and arbitrary. Proving yourself with your peers is how you improve and the only barometer.

[And1AllDay]

Nah pip wasn't that good. Slap yourself. Pip had like 1 great year and then he pulled that weak shit not going into the game.

for real? pips ppg was for sure better then #1 options no doubt about it and then we can talk defense next..

just off ppgz:

in 92' pippen was 14th in the entire league
in 94' pippen was 8th in the entire league
in 95' pippen was 12th in the entire league
in 96' pippen was 25th in the entire league
in 97' pippen was 18th in the entire league
in 98' pippen was 20th in the entire league

there are 30 teams in the league think fast :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

for real? pips ppg was for sure better then #1 options no doubt about it and then we can talk defense next..

just off ppgz:

in 92' pippen was 14th in the entire league
in 94' pippen was 8th in the entire league
in 95' pippen was 12th in the entire league
in 96' pippen was 25th in the entire league
in 97' pippen was 18th in the entire league
in 98' pippen was 20th in the entire league

there are 30 teams in the league think fast :oldlol:

Sure throw a bunch of arbitrary crap at me. I'd have to research but id say bulls would have traded pip for an all nba player in a heartbeat if they could at the time. The closest i think they got as a trade match was shawn kemp, who wasn't the 96 version of kemp yet.

[And1AllDay]

Sure throw a bunch of arbitrary crap at me. I'd have to research but id say bulls would have traded pip for an all nba player in a heartbeat if they could at the time. The closest i think they got as a trade match was shawn kemp, who wasn't the 96 version of kemp yet.

how is ppg arbitrary do you know what the word means i thought you were a doctor :oldlol:

30 teams have a number 1 option
pipp was above top 30 in scoring every year meaning he was better then #1 options...plus he didnt even get to be #1 for the entire play. he was in top 8 and 12 when he was able to be #1 guy meaning he was better than 22 of 30 #1 options in 94

[DoctorP]

Pippen was Draymond Green plus a poor mans Dr. J in one player, basically. His playoff numbers were ok

[And1AllDay]

Pippen was Draymond Green plus a poor mans Dr. J in one player, basically. His playoff numbers were ok

pippen avgs 22-8-7-2-1 in the finals for 3 yars in the 3peat with top notch defense

unbeatable #2 option point blank period

[DoctorP]

how is ppg arbitrary do you know what the word means i thought you were a doctor :oldlol:

30 teams have a number 1 option
pipp was above top 30 in scoring every year meaning he was better then #1 options...plus he didnt even get to be #1 for the entire play. he was in top 8 and 12 when he was able to be #1 guy meaning he was better than 22 of 30 #1 options in 94

Yea yea, arbitrary years, stats and ppg whatever... Meh.

[Smoke117]

Nah pip wasn't that good. Slap yourself. Pip had like 1 great year and then he pulled that weak shit not going into the game.

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are equally as moronic as OP.

[And1AllDay]

Yea yea, arbitrary years and ppg whatever... Meh.

:oldlol: so i was right

[DoctorP]

pippen avgs 22-8-7-2-1 in the finals for 3 yrs with top notch defense

unbeatable #2 option point blank period

Nah. You live a fantasy. Pip was great but id take Paul Pierce

[And1AllDay]

Nah. You live a fantasy. Pip was great but id take Paul Pierce

terrible. perma ban worth and i like you

[DoctorP]

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are equally as moronic as OP.

On this pip shit again ok. I just followed the bulls and watched the games. This board has been sucking pips **** for a while. Its weird

[DoctorP]

terrible. perma ban worth and i like you

Oh now i know you're biased. Pierce would own pip

[DoctorP]

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are equally as moronic as OP.

Rrr3

[DoctorP]

:oldlol: so i was right

I think you have a good point, i just don't remember pip being that great, really. His jumper was iffy at times and his passing was good but not magic great. He was an amazing glue guy. Ill need to revisit his work.

[DoctorP]

All of this stupid nonsense and idiocy we just regurgitated still doesn't support the argument that the 90s were weak. The 90s were a defensive and pro-athletic era due to copycatting the Pistons.

Teams adjusted to that as they could. It was a domino effect


Unless you're talking about the west coast. They barely played defense and would be more uptempo. Warriors, Suns, Sonics maybe. I forget :lol

[Smoke117]

Rrr3

What about retard3?

[DoctorP]

What about retard3?Oh who cares. This is dumb

[CountDracula]

https://i.ibb.co/Xk1q2d4/uid-06-A8265-A-FCC3-4580-8724-9-D3-C07-FF0234-1624059334102-source-other-origin-gallery-sources-3251.jpg (https://ibb.co/Tq6svnT)

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[ScottieQuitting]

Pippen was Draymond Green plus a poor mans Dr. J in one player, basically. His playoff numbers were ok

I think a better comparison, is Andre Iguodala, with better offensive skill set

[8Ball]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?



5 pages in, no one has articulated why the 90s were such a great era. No super teams besides Bulls. None. Zero. Nada.

[000]

Great thread OP. Michael Jordan has 0 rings at best

He won in 96-97 when the 3 pt line was shortened. Asterisks
He retired before his 2nd threepeat. Asterisk for 98 and double asterisks for 96-97
He faced Magic who had aids. Asterisk

So overall Mike has 2 rings at most and 2 double asterisks which invalidate them.:facepalm
The verdict has been set.

[DoctorP]

I think a better comparison, is Andre Iguodala, with better offensive skill set

Not bad at all. But iggy is much stronger.

[Axe]

Great thread OP. Michael Jordan has 0 rings at best

He won in 96-97 when the 3 pt line was shortened. Asterisks
He retired before his 2nd threepeat. Asterisk for 98 and double asterisks for 96-97
He faced Magic who had aids. Asterisk

So overall Mike has 2 rings at most and 2 double asterisks which invalidate them.:facepalm
The verdict has been set.
Which faction do you really belong to, dup? :ohwell:

[kawhileonard2]

90’s was only decade where guys who were top 3 in the league won league and or finals MVP’s. Shows how good the era was.

[deathawaitu]

mikes era :oldlol::oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv7NrgJG/is_this_tru_mike..png

Damn a grocery worker is more tough and plays better than Lebron

Thanks wheels for proving beta Lebron is only good at flopping

Lebron da snowflake era king

[3ba11]

The 90's was like the current international format - packed paints, physicality allowed, harder to score

[tpols]

Look at who Karl Malone had to beat to win a title. Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, and Jordan. That's a weak lineup? No my friend that is a gauntlet. That's wild wild west.

[Axe]

Jordan played in the west? :roll:

[ScottieQuitting]

Jordan played in the west? :roll:

No the other guys were a murderers row in the West, then he had the final boss, MJ da GOD, in the Finals. Ya moron.

[theman93]

No the other guys were a murderers row in the West, then he had the final boss, MJ da GOD, in the Finals. Ya moron.

Excuse him, he's kind of retarded.

[Spurs m8]

No the other guys were a murderers row in the West, then he had the final boss, MJ da GOD, in the Finals. Ya moron.

Young Axe isn't the brightest spark

[And1AllDay]

mikes era :oldlol::oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv7NrgJG/is_this_tru_mike..png

guys?

[SaintzFury13]

Pippen was Draymond Green plus a poor mans Dr. J in one player, basically. His playoff numbers were ok

Pippen was still a perfect teammate for Jordan at the end of the day because he complimented him better than anyone else could. He was able to do all of the other things that Jordan didn't have to bother focusing on. He even defended the other teams best player more often than not. The best kind of sidekick is one who doesn't have to sacrifice the best aspects of their games in order to let you be the best version of yourself that you can be. It's like Oscar when he was with Kareem or Kareem when he was with Magic or Wade when he was with LeBron.

[kawhileonard2]

90’s was only decade where guys who were top 3 in the league won league and or finals MVP’s. Shows how good the era was.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?495113-Vassilis-Spanoulis-Giannis-Antetokounmpo-s-And-Luka-Doncic-s-Idol-Retired
https://www.espn.com/olympics/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543

Guys!

[CountDracula]

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[dbugz]

More valuable than bubble chips and franchise hopping deck stacking where players have to ASK for respect :roll: :roll:

close the thread. It's done :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[deathawaitu]

Damn a grocery worker is more tough and plays better than Lebron

Thanks wheels for proving beta Lebron is only good at flopping

Lebron da snowflake era king

And1Allday avoiding this like a plague :roll:

[8Ball]

Look at who Karl Malone had to beat to win a title. Hakeem, Robinson, Shaq, and Jordan. That's a weak lineup? No my friend that is a gauntlet. That's wild wild west.

Those were 1 man teams with nothing around them. Like a early LeBron cavs team, or a solo Dwight team.

Hakeem got knocked out of the 1st round more than Jordan did.
Robinson did nothing in the 90s and had no one around him until a top 5 player was drafted next to him, which Jordan never faced.
Shaq had a 1 man team. Penny Hardaway sucks.
Kobe was straight garbage player until the year 1999, 2000. Which Jordan was no longer playing. And Utah took a dive after 1998.


Anything else?

[TheCorporation]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?

Has anyone braved a response or has it all been delflections? I don't need to sift through six pages to find out but I have a feeling I know the answer.

[ELITEpower23]

-watered down expansion with added 6 teams
-john starks
-illegal zone defense
-jeff hornacek
-wnba 3 ptr line reduction
-reggie miller
-illegal double teams
-terry porter
-scottie pippen + pete myers

how truly much is a 90s ring even worth?

Did we get an answer yet?

[ELITEpower23]

mikes era :oldlol::oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Xv7NrgJG/is_this_tru_mike..png

Jesus how did I miss this :oldlol: Guys?

[Mauzah]

https://i.postimg.cc/wTBvPLQh/MJ-90s-no-double-era.png

is this 90s ball era? :oldlol:

and you know what happened in that play? Jordan palm faked a pass and the player (name escapes me right now) did a full 360 only to find out Jordan is still controlling the ball. Completely toyed with him like the greatest of all time would. Even the crowed ate that shit up.

Then you have Lebron and we all know how this story ends :roll:

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