what does kd need to get free of the 2nd rd? harden, kyrie, lma, griffin not enough

[And1AllDay]

it seems without curry....even give him harden and kyrie and he has a hard time figuring out the 2nd rd

if kd added curry could he get free of the 2nd rd?

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[Manny98]

https://youtu.be/DXWhaSeehsg

[Spurs m8]

https://youtu.be/DXWhaSeehsg

Jeez...7 mins of 1 guy alone exposing LeSieve...in a single finals series hahahahha

Finals as well....where you're supposed to be at your best.

Wow

We can see how this guy has such a bad record and hands out FMVP to his direct opponents like candy

[And1AllDay]

https://youtu.be/DXWhaSeehsg

i see a warriors jersey :oldlol:

so i was right he needs curry :oldlol:

#next

[Manny98]

i see a warriors jersey :oldlol:

so i was right he needs curry :oldlol:

#next
Harden and Kyrie were injured

Aldridge was retired

Try again buddy, KD still got further in the playoffs than LeFirstRound :oldlol:

[Manny98]

Jeez...7 mins of 1 guy alone exposing LeSieve...in a single finals series hahahahha

Finals as well....where you're supposed to be at your best.

Wow

We can see how this guy has such a bad record and hands out FMVP to his direct opponents like candy

LeBron can't defend KD to save his life, they actually split this in 2 parts because KD was cooking LeBron so bad in the finals :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

Harden and Kyrie were injured

Aldridge was retired

Try again buddy, KD still got further in the playoffs than LeFirstRound :oldlol:


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[And1AllDay]

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as i knew it

silenced :oldlol::oldlol:

dont play with the throne lil boi

[Smoke117]

OP is a fakkot.

[And1AllDay]

OP is a fakkot.



you interested? sorry hes not hes straight thx

[Manny98]

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2-1 in the finals babyboi that's all that matters
Both LeBron and KD played on superteams, the only difference is that KD actually won with his superteams when healthy

Whilst LeBum gets destroyed by the Mavs and Spurs

[Spurs m8]

It's amazing to think KD ran to a 73 win team like a cvnt...

But when all is said and done, he's gonna retire with more respect on his name than LeChameleon

I guess a lot of that has to do with KD not running around like a clown shouting he's the GOAT and the king lmao

[8Ball]

KD is still on twitter spam posting to protect his legacy.


The 2016 decision of his hurts him to this day.


He doesn't have the balls to do what Bron did and go back to okc and win them a title.

[ScottieQuitting]

KD is still on twitter spam posting to protect his legacy.


The 2016 decision of his hurts him to this day.


He doesn't have the balls to do what Bron did and go back to okc and win them a title.

Maybe if they luckdd into a transcendent player like Kylie Irving and had a ton of number one picks consecutively :roll: :roll: :roll: … cowards gonna coward.

[Axe]

Five years later since the move to gs kd has more finals mvp than his former teammate stephen curry :lebronamazed:

[ELITEpower23]

as i knew it

silenced :oldlol::oldlol:

dont play with the throne lil boi

Cooked

[deathawaitu]

Lebron still figuring out how to make it to the west playoff without AD

Hopefully this kid makes it now he has the most stack superstar roster in history

[SaintzFury13]

LeBron can't defend KD to save his life, they actually split this in 2 parts because KD was cooking LeBron so bad in the finals :oldlol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRF_JaDGuCU

You're really going to make that argument based on what you saw from LeBron who was far away from his best days as a defender while Durant was in his prime? Well now I'm going to show you what happened when LeBron in his prime was guarding KD who was clearly still young and up and coming. Doesn't quite fit your narrative now does it?

And also, this thread is idiotic. LMA was retired before the playoffs even began, Griffin did absolutely nothing to help the Nets and they were better off without him, and both Harden and Kyrie were injured. KD doesn't need more teammates. He just needs Nash to not be a moron and start someone like Griffin at center, and his all star teammates need to be healthy. That's literally it.


2-1 in the finals babyboi that's all that matters
Both LeBron and KD played on superteams, the only difference is that KD actually won with his superteams when healthy

Whilst LeBum gets destroyed by the Mavs and Spurs

Actually, there's another difference. Kevin's team didn't need him to win a championship.

LeBron's did.

Got anymore dumbshit arguments you want to make or are you going to make yourself out to be an even bigger idiot than Spurs M8?


It's amazing to think KD ran to a 73 win team like a cvnt...

But when all is said and done, he's gonna retire with more respect on his name than LeChameleon

I guess a lot of that has to do with KD not running around like a clown shouting he's the GOAT and the king lmao

Actually, I might have to take that statement back. KD retiring with more respect to his name than LeBron? He doesn't even have more respect than LeBron at this very moment, even after leading team USA to gold. Nothing LeBron will ever do will compare to KD going to a 73 win to guarantee himself a championship.

[Manny98]

^ Meltdown

You do realize KD averaged almost 31ppg on 55% shooting in the 2012 finals, so even baby Durant was cooking the shit out of Bron :oldlol:

LeBron formed not 1, not 2 but 3 superteams, he started the superteam trend we have today never forget that

KD just did it better

[SaintzFury13]

^ Meltdown

I've seen your posts. If that's a meltdown then yours are a legitimate episode.


You do realize KD averaged almost 31ppg on 55% shooting in the 2012 finals, so even baby Durant was cooking the shit out of Bron :oldlol:

Actually, no he wasn't.

https://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs/2012/story/_/id/8072235/2012-nba-finals-miami-heat-lebron-james-responds-oklahoma-city-thunder-serge-ibaka-comments

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1228751-lebron-james-are-we-undervaluing-lebrons-presence-on-the-defensive-end


The Heat have been rotating defenders on Durant, who is averaging 31 points on 57 percent shooting in the series, but James was his primary defender in the fourth quarter of the Heat's 91-85 Game 3 victory on Sunday. Durant was 1-of-5 shooting in the quarter with James guarding him.


The bottom line in regards to James' defense is simple: the Miami Heat are 3-0 since asking James to cover Durant for a good portion of each game.

James has covered Durant particularly in the beginning and closing stages of each game. He has been able to effectively slow up Durant's starts to games and impede his ability to score in the closing minutes.

Durant has scored a combined 10 points in his last two fourth quarters. In turn, the Heat have outscored the Thunder in each of the last two contests to come out with victories.

But once again, you of course relied on stats to try to make your argument for you because you, like quite a few other people I've noticed here, haven't been watching basketball for very long. Durant had multiple guys defending him through out the series. Durant wasn't even LeBron's main defensive assignment. But when guarded by LeBron, Durant's field goal numbers take a noticeable dip, and indeed, once LeBron started guarding Durant more, OKC was forced to change up their game plan because their number one option on offense had no idea what to do when faced with the task of scoring on LeBron.


LeBron formed not 1, not 2 but 3 superteams, he started the superteam trend we have today never forget that

Okay? What does that have to do with the argument at hand?


KD just did it better

KD didn't do it better because he didn't form a super team. He JOINED a super team, a super team that already had its own place hedged in history. You can argue that he "formed" a super team in Brooklyn, and even then you can't really argue that he did that better.

But sure, let's say for the sake of argument that he "formed" a super team in Golden State. How exactly did he do it better? The whole point of the super teams in the first place was to help LeBron win championships to further add to his legacy. It was clear the impact he had on the Miami Heat in their two championship runs. His championship win in Cleveland is one of the top three greatest legacy defining moments in the history of the NBA. And his fourth championship happened on a Lakers team that wasn't even a super team by any stretch of the imagination. As for Durant? He won two championships with Golden State, in two NBA Finals series that many considered to be extremely one sided affairs that the opposing team had no chance of winning. He was not needed for Golden State to win, you can very easily argue that they could have won those two titles without him. Durant has two championships to his name but I fail to see the good that has done for him as far as his legacy as a player is concerned. Many consider those two rings to be tainted, to be undeserving. And while I don't want to call any championship undeserving or tainted, I will no less agree with the argument that you could take LeBron's two titles in Miami and compare them with Durant's in Golden State, and the difference is night and day. LeBron's two championships there mean more for him than they ever will for Durant's two. Hell, his one championship alone in Cleveland means more than both of Durant's titles combined.

But you want to say he "did it better".

Please.

[Manny98]

So what LeBron shut down a baby KD for a couple of possessions, do you want a medal, he still hung 31 for the series

Let's see what happens when KD and LeBron match up against each other during their primes shall we


https://youtu.be/-ONplZGFZa8


https://youtu.be/en2eiVUX6I0

Also because the fool has the nerve to say that LeBron shut down KD in 2012 despite him averaging 31 off 55% shooting, here you go


https://youtu.be/Ok89B1TbO84

[And1AllDay]

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anyone? :oldlol:
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[SaintzFury13]

So what LeBron shut down a baby KD for a couple of possessions, do you want a medal, he still hung 31 for the series

Again, relying on stats isn't going to help your argument. We are talking about the difference having LeBron guard Durant for made for the Heat. And the difference is night and day. And if you had watched the series (and you clearly didn't), you would know he stopped him for more than a "couple of possessions".


Let's see what happens when KD and LeBron match up against each other during their primes shall we


https://youtu.be/-ONplZGFZa8


https://youtu.be/en2eiVUX6I0

So you give me two videos of Durant playing against LeBron where he is no longer in his prime.

At this point I'm not sure why I'm bothering to continue this with you.


Also because the fool has the nerve to say that LeBron shut down KD in 2012 despite him averaging 31 off 55% shooting, here you go


https://youtu.be/Ok89B1TbO84

I never said LeBron shut down Durant in 2012. And I watched the entire video. I counted five possessions where Durant legitimately beat LeBron to the punch and/or LeBron played sloppy defense. Otherwise, LeBron either played great defense and Durant still scored, LeBron wasn't even defending him (there were five actual plays that they decided to show here of LeBron not even defending Durant when he scored), a play where Durant scored on an offensive rebound putback and the video maker for some reason thought that was a sign of LeBron's overrated defense when it's just a case of him not boxing out (nice basketball knowledge), and one play where an OKC player straight up shoves LeBron out of the way as he tries to defend a Durant three pointer and he gets away with it.

Next time, post a video that is made by someone who doesn't have an obvious agenda and completely lacking in basketball knowledge.

[MrFonzworth]

OP is a fakkot.

This. /Thread.

[Manny98]

LeBron wasn't in his prime in 2017 & 2018 when he had statistically the best playoff runs in his career and almost won MVP in 2018?

Can't make this up:oldlol:

[Manny98]

Again, relying on stats isn't going to help your argument. We are talking about the difference having LeBron guard Durant for made for the Heat. And the difference is night and day. And if you had watched the series (and you clearly didn't), you would know he stopped him for more than a "couple of possessions".



So you give me two videos of Durant playing against LeBron where he is no longer in his prime.

At this point I'm not sure why I'm bothering to continue this with you.



I never said LeBron shut down Durant in 2012. And I watched the entire video. I counted five possessions where Durant legitimately beat LeBron to the punch and/or LeBron played sloppy defense. Otherwise, LeBron either played great defense and Durant still scored, LeBron wasn't even defending him (there were five actual plays that they decided to show here of LeBron not even defending Durant when he scored), a play where Durant scored on an offensive rebound putback and the video maker for some reason thought that was a sign of LeBron's overrated defense when it's just a case of him not boxing out (nice basketball knowledge), and one play where an OKC player straight up shoves LeBron out of the way as he tries to defend a Durant three pointer and he gets away with it.

Next time, post a video that is made by someone who doesn't have an obvious agenda and completely lacking in basketball knowledge.
31 on 55%, if LeBron was so good defensively how is he letting his opponent put up these numbers

I'll wait

[And1AllDay]

This. /Thread.

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[1987_Lakers]

LeBron wasn't in his prime in 2017 & 2018 when he had statistically the best playoff runs in his career and almost won MVP in 2018?

Can't make this up:oldlol:

You could say he was in his offensive prime, but I think it's clear he was talking about defensive prime since he was talking about his defense. Everyone knows LeBron peaked as a defender in Miami.

[And1AllDay]

31 on 55%, if LeBron was so good defensively how is he letting his opponent put up these numbers

I'll wait

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2021-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bucks-vs-nets.html

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didnt giannis and jrue holiday and middleton 'let kd' get 35 on 50% :oldlol:

your clueless

bran held kd to better than what dpoy giannis, holiday, lopez, and middleton could

[Manny98]

Holding someone to 31 off 55% is supposed to be impressive :roll:

Plus KD averaged like 35 off 55% on LeBrons head in 2 consecutive finals

KD really is the GOAT scorer he can't be guarded by anyone :bowdown:

[And1AllDay]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2021-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bucks-vs-nets.html

https://i.postimg.cc/G2YLdM93/dumb-manny.png

didnt giannis and jrue holiday and middleton 'let kd' get 35 on 50% :oldlol:

your clueless

bran held kd to better than what dpoy giannis, holiday, lopez, and middleton could

mcdonny98 running now? :oldlol:

[SaintzFury13]

LeBron wasn't in his prime in 2017 & 2018 when he had statistically the best playoff runs in his career and almost won MVP in 2018?

Can't make this up:oldlol:

We are talking about defense, not offense. Stop pretending you're as stupid as your posts are making you out to be.


31 on 55%, if LeBron was so good defensively how is he letting his opponent put up these numbers

I'll wait

For the reasons I already mentioned: LeBron wasn't guarding Durant the entire series, nor was Durant his main defensive assignment.

Again, I know you are not an actual retard. Stop acting like you are.

[1987_Lakers]

Holding someone to 31 off 55% is supposed to be impressive :roll:

Plus KD averaged like 35 off 55% on LeBrons head in 2 consecutive finals

KD really is the GOAT scorer he can't be guarded by anyone :bowdown:

KD is without a doubt the greatest scoring SF this league has ever seen, but even with that under his belt, people have always looked at LeBron as the better player, look at the 3 Finals that they were matched up with each other, although KD has a 2-1 edge, LeBron outplayed him in EVERY Finals, KD just had a superior team in 2017 & 2018.

That is no knock on KD, he obviously balled out in those Finals and earned those Finals MVPs in 2017 & 2018, in my opinion his prime is better than Kobe's, but there is no shame in being worse at basketball than LeBron.

[Airupthere]

I have KD as a much better player than Lebron. Lebron was just a much more focused player on personal accolades that he would do anything, superteam, flop, statpad, just to be praised.

[Manny98]

We are talking about defense, not offense. Stop pretending you're as stupid as your posts are making you out to be.



For the reasons I already mentioned: LeBron wasn't guarding Durant the entire series, nor was Durant his main defensive assignment.

Again, I know you are not an actual retard. Stop acting like you are.
So LeBron can't guard Durant?

Got it

[Manny98]

KD is without a doubt the greatest scoring SF this league has ever seen, but even with that under his belt, people have always looked at LeBron as the better player, look at the 3 Finals that they were matched up with each other, although KD has a 2-1 edge, LeBron outplayed him in EVERY Finals, KD just had a superior team in 2017 & 2018.

That is no knock on KD, he obviously balled out in those Finals and earned those Finals MVPs in 2017 & 2018, in my opinion his prime is better than Kobe's, but there is no shame in being worse at basketball than LeBron.
Yes LeBron is the better overall player I am not going to argue against that

[1987_Lakers]

I have KD as a much better player than Lebron. Lebron was just a much more focused player on personal accolades that he would do anything, superteam, flop, statpad, just to be praised.

Oh the irony.

[SaintzFury13]

So LeBron can't guard Durant?

Got it

He can't guard Durant even though he negatively impacted Durant's production when he did.

I think I was wrong. You might in fact be an actual retard. There's no other explanation for it.

[Airupthere]

Oh the irony.

Lebron started that culture. KD responded. If anything, Lebron should feel responsible for all the superteaming bs nowadays.

[Manny98]

He can't guard Durant even though he negatively impacted Durant's production when he did.

I think I was wrong. You might in fact be an actual retard. There's no other explanation for it.
31 off 55% :sleeping

No one cares if LeBron shut down KD for a couple of possessions

If he was so good he would have taken the challenge of being his primary defender which he didn't

[SaintzFury13]

31 off 55% :sleeping

No one cares if LeBron shut down KD for a couple of possessions

If he was so good he would have taken the challenge of being his primary defender which he didn't

You've gone back to that "31 on 55%" line four times now while still not having an answer for LeBron being able to negatively impact Durant when he guarded him. Either come up with an actual argument that has something to do with what we're talking about or admit you are wrong. I'll give you one more chance just to be nice. If you can't come up with something even remotely decent, I'll chalk this up as an easy W for me.

[Manny98]

You've gone back to that "31 on 55%" line four times now while still not having an answer for LeBron being able to negatively impact Durant when he guarded him. Either come up with an actual argument that has something to do with what we're talking about or admit you are wrong. I'll give you one more chance just to be nice. If you can't come up with something even remotely decent, I'll chalk this up as an easy W for me.

I just said he negatively impacted Durant when he guarded him for a couple of possessions.

Can he do it for a entire game tho?

https://i.postimg.cc/RVtPcVWf/giphy-2.gif

[1987_Lakers]

Lebron started that culture. KD responded. If anything, Lebron should feel responsible for all the superteaming bs nowadays.

Let's be real here, what KD did was much worse, he joined a team that had won 73 games, he had a 3-1 series lead against that very same team and blew the series, then did the classic "If you can't beat them, join em", despite being so close to defeating them. You can blame LeBron for starting the super team thing, I don't mind that, but it can't be argued that what KD did was 100x worse.

[And1AllDay]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2021-nba-eastern-conference-semifinals-bucks-vs-nets.html

https://i.postimg.cc/G2YLdM93/dumb-manny.png

didnt giannis and jrue holiday and middleton 'let kd' get 35 on 50% :oldlol:

your clueless

bran held kd to better than what dpoy giannis, holiday, lopez, and middleton could

we got the fry cook manny mcdonny98 running now bois :dancin

this bois is siLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLenced again

dont play with the kings throne lil fella :oldlol:

[SaintzFury13]

I just said he negatively impacted Durant when he guarded him for a couple of possessions.

Can he do it for a entire game tho?

https://i.postimg.cc/RVtPcVWf/giphy-2.gif

Literally no one can hold Durant down at the rate LeBron was able to for an entire series, let alone an entire game. You're trying to argue against LeBron's defensive impact based on something no one has ever done before. When you compare what LeBron has in fact been able to do before in the past, especially compared to how other players have faired, trying to argue that he can't "guard Durant to save his life" is idiotic.

[Manny98]

Literally no one can hold Durant down at the rate LeBron was able to for an entire series, let alone an entire game. You're trying to argue against LeBron's defensive impact based on something no one has ever done before. When you compare what LeBron has in fact been able to do before in the past, especially compared to how other players have faired, trying to argue that he can't "guard Durant to save his life" is idiotic.

31 on 55% is holding down :roll::roll::roll:

[Spurs m8]

Lebron started that culture. KD responded. If anything, Lebron should feel responsible for all the superteaming bs nowadays.

He should but he won't

He is too entitled.


He continues to make a mockery of the league, year in, year out.

The league won't start resembling real sport until the coward retires

[Axe]

KD is without a doubt the greatest scoring SF this league has ever seen, but even with that under his belt, people have always looked at LeBron as the better player, look at the 3 Finals that they were matched up with each other, although KD has a 2-1 edge, LeBron outplayed him in EVERY Finals, KD just had a superior team in 2017 & 2018.

That is no knock on KD, he obviously balled out in those Finals and earned those Finals MVPs in 2017 & 2018, in my opinion his prime is better than Kobe's, but there is no shame in being worse at basketball than LeBron.
Kong has outplayed anyone in those finals runs because he's mostly leading those scrubs who are clueless or useless while playing in the biggest stage of the game. Now if he had someone like ad or any other player like him back then, that wouldn't be the case at all i believe although he may still have outplayed kd in some ways too.

[Ryoka Narusawa]

some threads sting and this one feels like a major stinger.



it could be too early to tell or i could be guessing but it feels like a deep stinger. it has all the makings of a stinger but the playoffs need to arrive again which is a year away. your guess is as good as mine.

[SaintzFury13]

31 on 55% is holding down :roll::roll::roll:

I think at this point, you pretending to be a troll is your way of backing out when you realize your argument has no merit to it. Either that or you truly are the biggest moron on the face of this earth. Either way, that's an easy W for me. You had your chance and you blew it.

[And1AllDay]

who else remembers this ? :oldlol: :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pybz1p9x/weak-snake-moves.jpg

[Manny98]

I think at this point, you pretending to be a troll is your way of backing out when you realize your argument has no merit to it. Either that or you truly are the biggest moron on the face of this earth. Either way, that's an easy W for me. You had your chance and you blew it.

31

55%


https://youtu.be/B3-x_7RMuig


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[And1AllDay]

who else remembers this ? :oldlol: :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pybz1p9x/weak-snake-moves.jpg

anyone remember this? :oldlol:

[And1AllDay]

just not a fight you can win :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/Vk9qC1xm/kd-been-shook-a-while-now.jpg

[StickyWice]

He need your mom in bedroom

she did good for lebwon in bubble

-Stickyickyicky

[ArbitraryWater]

who else remembers this ? :oldlol: :oldlol:

https://i.postimg.cc/pybz1p9x/weak-snake-moves.jpg

he got clowned for joining GS not for wanting to join us womens olympics lmao bruh i know thats what u tried to say