The Lebron Effect

[kennygriffin]

Dennis Schroder 2020 without Lebron - 19ppg on 47%
Dennis Schroder 2021 with Lebron - 15ppg on 43%

Kyle Kuzma 2019 mostly without Lebron - 19ppg on 46%
Kyle Kuzma 2020/21 with Lebron - 12ppg on 43%

Andre Drummond 2021 without Lebron - 18ppg/14rpg
Andre Drummond 2021 with Lebron - 11ppg/10rpg

Montrezl Harrell 2020 without Lebron - 19ppg/7rpg
Montrezl Harrell 2021 with Lebron - 13ppg/6rpg

Anthony Davis 2017/18/19 without Lebron - 28ppg/11rpg
Anthony Davis 2021 with Lebron - 21ppg/8rpg

JR Smith 2012/13/14 without Lebron - 15ppg on 42%
JR Smith 2015/16/17 with Lebron - 11ppg on 38%

Kevin Love 2011/12/13/14 without lebron - 24ppg/14rpg
Kevin Love 2015/16/17/18 with lebron - 17ppg/10rpg on 43%

Isaiah Thomas 2017 without lebron - 29ppg on 46%
Isaiah Thomas 2018 with Lebron - 14ppg on 36%

Dwyane wade 2006,07,08,09,10 without lebron - 27ppg, 5rpg, 7 apg
Dwyane Wade 2011,12,13,14 with lebron - 22ppg/5rpg/4apg

Chris Bosh 2010 without lebron - 24ppg, 11rpg
Chris bosh 2011,12,13,14 with lebron - 17ppg, 7rpg

Shaquille O'neal 2009 without lebron - 18ppg, 8rpg
Shaquille O'neal 2010 with lebron - 12ppg, 6rpg

Antawn Jamison 2010 without lebron - 20ppg, 9rpg
Antawn Jamison 2010 with lebron - 16ppg, 7rpg

Larry Hughes 2005 without lebron - 22ppg, 6rpg, 5apg on 43%
Larry Hughes 2006 with Lebron - 15ppg, 4rpg, 3apg on 41%

Ben Wallace 2007 without lebron - all defensive team
Ben Wallace 2008 with lebron - scrub

Wally Szczerbiak 2007 without lebron - 15ppg on 42%
Wally Szczerbiak 2008 with lebron - 8ppg on 36%



Delonte West before knowing lebron -

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Delonte West after knowing lebron -

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and yet people still flock to lebron knowing even if they win the media won't give them any credit and their careers are ruined



feel free to add some i missed

[kennygriffin]

space jam without lebron -

budget - 80 million
box office - 250 million


space jam with lebron -

budget - 250 million
box office - 94 million


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[3ba11]

he never made anyone better at basketball because no player improved statistically during a tenure alongside him

otoh, guys like bj, grant and pippen grew by leaps and bounds alongside jordan

the difference is that lebron's skill restriction to unassisted, ball-dominance reduces teammates to spot-up roles, while Jordan's scoring was partially-assisted by teammates, which elevates their role and capacity for production

[kennygriffin]

a league mvp wearing #23 and tossing powder without lebron - 0 finals losses
a league mvp wearing #23 and tossing powder with lebron - 6 finals losses

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[Pip' N Rodman]

Can you do kyries stats?

[kennygriffin]

Can you do kyries stats?

he played isolation break down dribbles hero ball you dumb f*ck lmao


remember this post i made exposing lebron for kyrie carrying the cavs to their first 3 finals wins before the games became blow outs? well guess how many times lebron assisted kyrie? .... once LOL


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the 2016 title was mostly due to kyrie. lebron stat padded in garbage time. proof

kyrie doubled lebrons output when the games weren't blow outs.

in the last 4 minutes of game 7 when everything was on the line. lebron disappeared. missing shot after shot after shot... then kyrie hit the biggest walk off championship winning shot in nba history.




cavs first victory:

0-2 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 12 ft
0-4 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
0-6 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
4-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
4-19 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
6-21 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft
8-23 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
10-25+2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
10-30+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 24 ft
13-33+3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft

game over... cavs never looked back


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cavs 2nd victory tied 61-61 at half time

K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft +2 63-61
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 67-64
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 69-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim +2 71-66
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 74-66
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft +2 77-71
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft (assist by L. James) +3 80-73
L. James makes 3-pt shot from 25 ft +3 89-80
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 9 ft +2 95-87
L. James makes 2-pt shot from 16 ft +2 97-88
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 101-92
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 8 ft +2 104-96
K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 14 ft +2 106-96
K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft +3 109-96


game over.. cavs never looked back



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cavs 3rd victory

0-4 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 13 ft
0-6 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
0-8 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 3 ft
2-11 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 28 ft
2-13 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot at rim
7-20 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 18 ft
9-26 +2 L. James makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft
13-34 +3 K. Irving makes 3-pt shot from 27 ft
18-37 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft
26-43 +2 K. Irving makes 2-pt shot at rim


game over ... cavs never looked back


all in all...

kyrie scored 51 points in key moments
lebron scored 26 pointsin key moments

:roll:

[SATAN]

OP seems obsessed with LeBron

[DevBooker'sMask]

OP seems obsessed with LeBron

I wonder if a restraining order is necessary at this point

[kennygriffin]

I wonder if a restraining order is necessary at this point

translation - "we can't argue this. bail"


take 1-2 year breaks all the time from here cause its too easy for me to destroy you people.

[Axe]

The fact that you have to make threads about him shows that he pawns you by renting free iyh.

[kennygriffin]

The fact that you have to make threads about him shows that he pawns you by renting free iyh.

tell me more how my opinion hurts you

[Axe]

tell me more how my opinion hurts you
Nvm. Just for the sake of saying the truth. That's all.

[FultzNationRISE]

So if he makes other stars worse...

And he makes role players worse...


How does he have four titles/four FMVPs, with three DIFFERENT franchises, in what is by far the most talented and competitive era of the sport's history?




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[3ba11]

So if he makes other stars worse...

And he makes role players worse...


How does he have four titles/four FMVPs, with three DIFFERENT franchises, in what is by far the most talented and competitive era of the sport's history?




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Dirk's 8 seed nearly beat the 14' Spurs in a massive upset, while Dirk also beat Lebron in 2011 - so Dirk would be 4/4 with Wade/Bosh.

That's just one example.. Heck, CP3 probably goes 3/4 with Wade/Bosh

So Lebron underachieves given the goat help that he's had - he's 4/11 since the "decision" to form super-teams, and that includes 2 lucky wins/bailouts.. he's a lucky bounce away from being a 2/10 bum.

[FultzNationRISE]

Dirk's 8 seed nearly beat the 14' Spurs in a massive upset, while Dirk also beat Lebron in 2011 - so Dirk would be 4/4 with Wade/Bosh.

That's just one example.. Heck, CP3 probably goes 3/4 with Wade/Bosh




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[3ba11]

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you guys said the 14' Spurs were unstoppable, yet Dirk nearly beat them with an 8 seed - so Lebron's record loss proves he sucks


* 2/4 with Wade/Bosh including the goat choke and record loss is the worst you can do - that isn't a top 10 all-time performance

* 1/3 with Kyrie and barely 50 wins is also not a top 10 all-time performance

* lottery in the West without AD is not a top 10 all-time performance.


Given his supporting talent, he should have 7 or 8 rings, like he said he would