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72-10
08-11-2021, 04:53 AM
Is he one of three men with certain skills What are these skills Drop some film!

HBK_Kliq_2
08-11-2021, 05:30 AM
80's Kyrie Irving is a good comparison. similar level ball handling I would say

Shooting could be leathel in mid range but was only 79% free throw during his 3 finals runs from 88-90 , so I can't say he was the shooter that Irving is.

Sportal
08-11-2021, 09:17 AM
80's Kyrie Irving is a good comparison. similar level ball handling I would say

Shooting could be leathel in mid range but was only 79% free throw during his 3 finals runs from 88-90 , so I can't say he was the shooter that Irving is.

Similar level ball-handling????????????????????????????? What?

72-10
08-26-2021, 02:42 PM
1 of 3 for:

leaning jump-shots
scoring while fouled, and on jumpers
completing three-point plays, I think his foul shooting improved on the and-1's, I can think of only one other guy who did that
drop-step passing
no-look passing
outscoring, outassisting, outdefending, and generally outplaying taller opponents
ballhandling and taking care of the ball
dribbling hard left
penetrating the lane and drawing and beating collapsing defenses
beating two and three men on jump shots
stopping on a dime
shooting and passing off one leg
getting low and jumping high
saving his best for the best

Full Court
08-26-2021, 03:23 PM
80's Kyrie Irving is a good comparison. similar level ball handling I would say

Shooting could be leathel in mid range but was only 79% free throw during his 3 finals runs from 88-90 , so I can't say he was the shooter that Irving is.

Thomas absolutely blows Irving out of the water on defense.

PP34Deuce
08-26-2021, 08:45 PM
Zeke was a true pg who could score 25ppg. I think Chris Paul is better comparison. Zeke was a pesky defender like cp3.

Kyrie is like a more refined career successful stephon Marbury.

L.Kizzle
08-26-2021, 10:52 PM
Similar level ball-handling????????????????????????????? What?
Thing is, who is the what geared towards?

Chick Stern
08-26-2021, 11:27 PM
Zeke was a true pg who could score 25ppg. I think Chris Paul is better comparison. Zeke was a pesky defender like cp3.

Kyrie is like a more refined career successful stephon Marbury.
I think a good comparison, but Zeke was much better than Paul.

ClipperRevival
08-26-2021, 11:30 PM
Similar level ball-handling????????????????????????????? What?

Yes.

Kyrie's ball handling looks more fancy because it's a modern style, with more exagerrated crossovers, etc. But in terms of ball control and getting to any spot on the court with his dribble, Isiah was GOAT tier.

Mauzah
08-27-2021, 03:03 AM
Magic
Curry
Zeke

bizil
08-27-2021, 01:37 PM
Zeke was a true pg who could score 25ppg. I think Chris Paul is better comparison. Zeke was a pesky defender like cp3.

Kyrie is like a more refined career successful stephon Marbury.


Yep yep! Zeke was the VERY RARE pass first PG who ALSO was an alpha dog scorer. Just like an Oscar and Magic had the shit in their own way. In terms of handles and alpha dog scoring ability, Kyrie is similar to Zeke. But CP3 is the better comparison. I think Zeke has the edge scoring. CP3 has the edge on defense. But BOTH are pass first PG's who have alpha dog scoring ability. Kyrie is on the Mt. Rushmore along with a Curry and Dame for the score first PGs in this era. I would say NO PG ever combined dominant scoring, handles and floor generalship like Zeke! The guys like Dame, Curry, Russ, and Kyrie aren't the floor general Zeke was. Nash and CP3 are awesome but Zeke was more feared scoring the rock. Zeke's handles are better than Magic, Frazier, and Payton. Zeke is superior to Stock and Kidd in terms of scoring and handles.

L.Kizzle
08-27-2021, 02:31 PM
Yep yep! Zeke was the VERY RARE pass first PG who ALSO was an alpha dog scorer. Just like an Oscar and Magic had the shit in their own way. In terms of handles and alpha dog scoring ability, Kyrie is similar to Zeke. But CP3 is the better comparison. I think Zeke has the edge scoring. CP3 has the edge on defense. But BOTH are pass first PG's who have alpha dog scoring ability. Kyrie is on the Mt. Rushmore along with a Curry and Dame for the score first PGs in this era. I would say NO PG ever combined dominant scoring, handles and floor generalship like Zeke! The guys like Dame, Curry, Russ, and Kyrie aren't the floor general Zeke was. Nash and CP3 are awesome but Zeke was more feared scoring the rock. Zeke's handles are better than Magic, Frazier, and Payton. Zeke is superior to Stock and Kidd in terms of scoring and handles.
What about Tiny Archibald in this fold?

bizil
08-27-2021, 03:42 PM
What about Tiny Archibald in this fold?

Tiny is right there FOR SURE!!! Hell before Zeke, he was the best blend of scoring, handles, and floor generalship ever. And like Zeke, I consider him a pass first guy who could ALSO dominate scoring. If u lead the league in scoring and dimes, that says it all. I think Zeke evolved what Tiny did. But frankly have NO PROBLEM if someone said Tiny still was the best blend scoring,handles, and floor generalship. I just prefer Zeke. Those two really set the standard for that. Tiny was WAYYYYY ahead of his time! Of the true superstar level players, among the most underrated of all time. U don't hear his name much anymore when it comes to the all time great PG's in the various media outlets.

bison
08-27-2021, 03:51 PM
Similar level ball-handling????????????????????????????? What?

Give Isaiah the freedom of modern rules to travel and carry while disallowing hand checking, he could definitely be kyrie-esque

bizil
08-27-2021, 03:56 PM
Give Isaiah the freedom of modern rules to travel and carry while disallowing hand checking, he could definitely be kyrie-esque

DAMN RIGHT! Zeke is TAILOR MADE for this game! Plus he would be helping keep the pass first PG alive along with CP3. Zeke would be totally devastating in today's game!

warriorfan
08-27-2021, 04:39 PM
An alpha Chris Paul who doesn’t choke

000
08-27-2021, 04:42 PM
An alpha Chris Paul who doesn’t choke
So like chris paul except not like chris paul?

warriorfan
08-27-2021, 05:07 PM
So like chris paul except not like chris paul?

Yes

000
08-27-2021, 05:38 PM
Yes
I see

Jasper
08-27-2021, 05:47 PM
Is he one of three men with certain skills What are these skills Drop some film!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K9jm1pFjSE

bad boy (niggy way)

72-10
09-01-2021, 08:09 PM
Yes.

Kyrie's ball handling looks more fancy because it's a modern style, with more exagerrated crossovers, etc. But in terms of ball control and getting to any spot on the court with his dribble, Isiah was GOAT tier.

yeah he was a master of minimizing his dribbles and kept it low, partly attributable to his innate court vision. Less turnovers. Add to that he did all this w/o exploiting defensive mismatches due to his lack of great height.

72-10
09-01-2021, 08:20 PM
Magic
Curry
Zeke

what Zeke's easily the most skilled player this side of Michael Jordan! He held the man in check several times.

Smoke117
09-01-2021, 11:11 PM
Poor man's Chris Paul with much, much better teammates.

ClipperRevival
09-01-2021, 11:54 PM
Poor man's Chris Paul with much, much better teammates.

https://c.tenor.com/gU36CTtLq4AAAAAC/chris-paul-dancing.gif