times when each top 10 player all time Lost when they were expected to win

[kennygriffin]

Lebron James:
2004 olympics
2006 world championship
2009 #1 seed in the nba
2010 #1 seed in the nba
2011 colluded big 3 superteam
2014 colluded big 4 superteam
2021 Both Lebron and Davis were playing. they're definitely better than phoenix and a 1 legged giannis lol.. and shannon sharpe/nick wright said they would still win

Wilt Chamberlain:
1966 #1 seed in nba, gentleman swept by boston
1968 #1 seed in nba, lost in game 7 at home to boston
1969 7 more wins than boston, lost in game 7 at home to boston
1973 way better than knicks, gentleman swept

Shaquille O'neal:
1995 massively favoured over Houston
2004 malone and GP ring chasing
2005 lost in game 7 at home to detroit, should have beat detroit then sanantonio

Larry Bird:
1980 #1 seed in nba, lost to philly in gentleman sweep
1982 #1 seed in nba, lost to philly in game 7 at home
1985 #1 seed in nba, lost to lakers in 6

Kareem Abdul Jabbar:
1974 #1 seed in the nba and lost to boston in game 7 at home
1977 #1 seed in the nba and got swept by portland

Tim Duncan:
2001 #1 seed in nba, healthy duncan/robinson and swept by a 22 year old averaging 35ppg?
2006 #1 seed in nba, lost in game 7 to dallas at home?

Bill Russell:
1958 #1 seed in nba, lost to hawks at home

Magic Johnson:
1990 #1 seed in the nba and lost to the suns in a gentleman sweep

Kobe Bryant:
2004 malone and GP ring chasing

Michael Jordan:
none


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[kawhileonard2]

All of these players below lost with either Homecourt Advantage, Top seed, Better Record or Same RecordIf year is mentioned then it means they lost with HCA. Otherwise top seed or identical record is mentioned



Kareem (lost in ’72-73, ’73-74 (lost game 7 of the NBA Finals at home vs Boston), ’76-77, ’80-81, ’85-86)
Wilt Chamberlain (lost in ’60-61, ’65-66, ’67-68 ((lost game 7 of the ECF at home vs Boston), ’68-69 ((lost game 7 of the NBA Finals at home vs Boston), ’72-73)
Bill Russell (lost in 1958)
Magic Johnson (lost in ’80-81, ’85-86, ’89-90)
Larry Bird (lost in ’79-80, ’81-82, ’82-83, ’84-85, ’87-88, '89-90, '90-91)
Shaq (lost in ’93-94, ’94-95, ’03-04, '04-05, '09-10)
Hakeem (lost in ’84-85, ’86-87, '98-99 same record and in 1993 with same record against Seattle)
Duncan (lost in ’00-01, ’03-04, '05-06, '08-09, '10-11, '11-12)
Oscar Robertson (lost in ’61-62, ’64-65, ’72-73, ’73-74)
Jerry West (lost in ’68-69, ’72-73)
Dr J (lost in '81-82, '83-84)
Moses Malone (lost in '83-84, '88-89)
Karl Malone and John Stockton (lost in '97-98, '00-01, '94-95)
Garnett (lost in '02-03, '03-04)
Barkley (lost in '92-93, '94-95, '98-99)
Pippen (lost in '98-99 with identical record)
John Havlicek (lost in 1972-1973, '74-75 (same record)
Kobe (lost in '03-04 with HCA and '10-11 with HCA in a sweep)
Patrick Ewing (lost in '92-93, '94-95)
David Robinson (lost in '93-94, '94-95, '95-96)
Bob Pettit (lost in '58-59)
George Mikan (lost in '50-51)
Isiah Thomas (lost in '83-84)
Willis Reed (lost in '68-69, '70-71)
Walt Frazier (lost in '68-69, '70-71)
Rick Barry (lost in '75-76)
Adrian Dantley (lost in '83-84)
Gary Payton (lost in '93-94, '97-98)
Lebron (lost in '08-09, '09-10 with best record both years, '10-11)
Dwyane Wade (lost in '04-05, '10-11)
Kevin Durant lost in '11-12)

Now I might as missed some years for a few players, but I thought that was interesting. The only top 20 player Ever who never lost a series with either the Same Record, Higher Seed, Top Seed or Home court Advantage was Jordan. He was 25-0 in all with HCA and Top Seed along with same record and 24-0 in series with HCA

[kennygriffin]

All of these players below lost with either Homecourt Advantage, Top seed, Better Record or Same RecordIf year is mentioned then it means they lost with HCA. Otherwise top seed or identical record is mentioned


theres way more context that goes into my list. its not always about record. like in 2011 with kobe needing actual knee surgery and not just sitting 2 months for a sprained ankle like some people lol.. nobody thought the lakers would beat the loaded mavs. they added a lot of new pieces and needed time to click


and lebrons miami teams were far better than their record. they could coast cause they knew the east was a joke. in fact lebron did it routinely throughout the decade

[3ba11]

he only top 20 player Ever who never lost a series with either the Same Record, Higher Seed, Top Seed or Home court Advantage was Jordan. He was 25-0 in all with HCA and Top Seed along with same record and 24-0 in series with HCA





So Jordan had the goat winning described above, while also having goat carry-jobs - specifically, everyone in history was a "pippen" that needed teammates to match or lead them in scoring for entire playoff runs, while Jordan led his sidekick in scoring for every SERIES by at least 10 ppg..

So only Jordan won with a true 2nd option that averaged far less in every series, while everyone else needed 1b's, elite 1st option sidekicks, and equal-scoring partners to win most of their rings.

[RRR3]

LeBron gets blamed for the 04 Olympics but not Duncan. OP is literally retarded.

[kennygriffin]

LeBron gets blamed for the 04 Olympics but not Duncan. OP is literally retarded.

he took up a spot that coulda gone to someone productive

[RRR3]

I’m a retard
:biggums:

[DoctorP]

LeBron gets blamed for the 04 Olympics but not Duncan. OP is literally retarded.

Calm down Dork Vader

[3ba11]

LeBron gets blamed for the 04 Olympics but not Duncan. OP is literally retarded.


Lebron lost in 06' too, where he deserves full blame

[Gohan]

You forgot 2002 when iverson lost to the celtics

[8Ball]

Kobe bryant isnt top 10.


Thread invalidated :roll:

[jlip]

Bill Russell:
1958 #1 seed in nba, lost to hawks at home



Bill Russell missed nearly half the series with an injury. :facepalm

[kawhileonard2]

Kobe bryant isnt top 10.


Thread invalidated :roll:

He is better than Lebron even Lebron said so.

[deathawaitu]

Kobe bryant isnt top 10.


Thread invalidated :roll:


Lol in the real world Kobe is consensus top 10

Where as in the real world, your boy Lebron isn’t even top 15 lol

Keep staying delusion forum burger boy :roll:

Just too ez

[8Ball]

Lol in the real world Kobe is consensus top 10

Where as in the real world, your boy Lebron isn’t even top 15 lol

Keep staying delusion forum burger boy :roll:

Just too ez

Real world ESPN put Kobe at 12.

Thread invalidated.

[coastalmarker99]

Here is some context about some of Wilt's playoff losses despite his teams being expected to win.

1966 The Sixers were not better than the Celtics. They won 1 game more, but the Celtics had played some games without Russell and other key members of their team so, their 54-26 record isn't telling the whole truth.

They were coached by someone who, when he left the Sixers in that season, was never trusted again by any NBA team for the nest 5 seasons (you'd expect from someone who won 55 games to have had a lot more demand in the market) and when he was, it was from the worst team in the league, for only a single season.

Also, Billy C was a rookie, played like absolute shit in the playoffs and even missed a game. Not to mention the obvious vast difference in playoff experience.


1968 An injury-plagued team in the playoffs. When they faced the Celtics, 4 out of their 5 most impactful players were hurt (Cunningham didn't even play).

Knowing that this series still went to 7 games and that 3 of their 4 losses were close, it's pretty easy to assume that a healthy Sixers team (or, at least, a Sixer team equally healthy to the Celtics) could still have won the series.




‘69 - West played with a hamstring and calf injury which limited his ability to defend how he normally does. Wilt gets injured late and they lose in Game 7 by 2 points



‘73 - Hairston out once again, West is playing with another hamstring injury and West also mentions in his autobiography that McMillan was playing through an injury as well.

That 73 Lakers team was clearly beaten up pretty bad and they lost a lot of close Finals games.

Wilt is most likely the most unlucky player in the top ten of all time as if you redo his career over then he most likely wins 4 to 5 rings instead of the 2 that he ended up with.