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RRR3
08-14-2021, 11:00 PM
Yikes another L for Mango Mussolini

MrFonzworth
08-14-2021, 11:02 PM
Existence is pain.

https://i.ibb.co/52Y1LN1/77-B16-AB3-50-E6-4634-9430-4-D9561808-C0-A.jpg

RRR3
08-14-2021, 11:04 PM
I’m literally Fonzworth’s only human interaction :lol


The poor loner

DoctorP
08-14-2021, 11:45 PM
Yikes another L for Mango Mussolini

:lol

i know who that is.

diamenz
08-14-2021, 11:50 PM
didn't biden just sent back 3,000 troops to push the taliban away from kabul? with that, there's still something like 5,000 troops stationed there.

i give biden credit for what he's done as far as pulling out so far (it's more than obama or trump ever did), but will he finish the job or will he cave to the pro-war establishment/media and the military industrial complex? because we all know (or should know) that the real reason we're in afghanistan is geopolitical imperialism and the trillions of $ worth of mineral wealth there.i

i'd bet that we're going to 'be there' long after all of us here are in our graves.

BigKobeFan
08-14-2021, 11:51 PM
Biden just sent more troops there u basement dweller

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 12:07 AM
from what I heard, the troops are there to help with the pullout.

not trying to finish too hard inside. want a nice flow out of that hellhole.

Cleverness
08-15-2021, 12:55 AM
RRR3 correctly identifies another L for the mask wearing, vaccine salesman, "National Emergency" travel ban-er Donald Trump,

but Biden hasn't gotten us out yet. Plus, Biden plans to continue massively funding the military industrial complex and keeping US war crimes in place all over the world

I know I'm asking a lot here, but don't be fooled, RRR3. Biden will continue spending trillions in the middle east as well as continuing Trump's $13.3 trillion War on Coronavirus-2019.


didn't biden just sent back 3,000 troops to push the taliban away from kabul? with that, there's still something like 5,000 troops stationed there.

i give biden credit for what he's done as far as pulling out so far (it's more than obama or trump ever did), but will he finish the job or will he cave to the pro-war establishment/media and the military industrial complex? because we all know (or should know) that the real reason we're in afghanistan is geopolitical imperialism and the trillions of $ worth of mineral wealth there.i

i'd bet that we're going to 'be there' long after all of us here are in our graves.

President Biden said Saturday he would send approximately 5,000 U.S. troops to safely evacuate U.S. and allied personnel, a force slightly larger than the 3,000 personnel already in transit back to Afghanistan and the 1,000 already there. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-to-send-5-000-troops-to-afghanistan-for-u-s-personnel-evacuation-11628974596)

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 12:58 AM
RRR3 correctly identifies another L for the mask wearing, vaccine salesman, "National Emergency" travel ban-er Donald Trump,

but Biden hasn't gotten us out yet. Plus, Biden plans to continue massively funding the military industrial complex and keeping US war crimes in place all over the world

I know I'm asking a lot here, but don't be fooled, RRR3. Biden will continue spending trillions in the middle east as well as continuing Trump's $13.3 trillion War on Coronavirus-2019.



President Biden said Saturday he would send approximately 5,000 U.S. troops to safely evacuate U.S. and allied personnel, a force slightly larger than the 3,000 personnel already in transit back to Afghanistan and the 1,000 already there. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-to-send-5-000-troops-to-afghanistan-for-u-s-personnel-evacuation-11628974596)

Well of course he will, why would the USA lay down all of their empirical chess pieces and become France? The capitalists that are borrowing from China and Japan would never have it.

Cleverness
08-15-2021, 01:10 AM
Well of course he will, why would the USA lay down all of their empirical chess pieces and become France? The capitalists that are borrowing from China and Japan would never have it.

? .. are you a supporter of the US wars in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Mali, Syria, Somalia, etc?

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 01:19 AM
? .. are you a supporter of the US wars in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Mali, Syria, Somalia, etc?

no, but the reality is there was much money to be made by them. and the industrialists at the top love that cash.

the USA was built on slavery and wars.

China is being built by US debt :lol

RRR3
08-15-2021, 01:23 AM
Comrade Biden got ‘em steaming. Next step Medicare for all :applause:

Cleverness
08-15-2021, 01:26 AM
Comrade Biden got ‘em steaming. Next step Medicare for all :applause:

he 'bout to finalize $13.3 trillion for Trump's War on Covid-19 and continue giving trillions to the MIC

Do you really think we're getting Medicare for all under Biden?

bladefd
08-15-2021, 02:10 AM
from what I heard, the troops are there to help with the pullout.

not trying to finish too hard inside. want a nice flow out of that hellhole.

I read the official date for pulling out altogether is just a few days after September 11th on the 20th anniversary.

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 02:16 AM
I read the official date for pulling out altogether is just a few days after September 11th on the 20th anniversary.

that would be symbolic since 9-11 was the trigger.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S-ZJwAaof4

RRR3
08-15-2021, 03:48 AM
he 'bout to finalize $13.3 trillion for Trump's War on Covid-19 and continue giving trillions to the MIC

Do you really think we're getting Medicare for all under Biden?
Comrade Biden works in mysterious ways he’s still figuring out how to best implement socialism in America.

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 04:07 AM
Comrade Biden works in mysterious ways he’s still figuring out how to best implement socialism in America.

if the communals beat the nationalists in the Chinese civil war, they will probably win in the USA too. the usa needs all the help it can get if it doesnt want to implode

Axe
08-15-2021, 06:52 AM
RRR3 correctly identifies another L for the mask wearing, vaccine salesman, "National Emergency" travel ban-er Donald Trump,

but Biden hasn't gotten us out yet. Plus, Biden plans to continue massively funding the military industrial complex and keeping US war crimes in place all over the world

I know I'm asking a lot here, but don't be fooled, RRR3. Biden will continue spending trillions in the middle east as well as continuing Trump's $13.3 trillion War on Coronavirus-2019.



President Biden said Saturday he would send approximately 5,000 U.S. troops to safely evacuate U.S. and allied personnel, a force slightly larger than the 3,000 personnel already in transit back to Afghanistan and the 1,000 already there. (https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-to-send-5-000-troops-to-afghanistan-for-u-s-personnel-evacuation-11628974596)
What does his thread have to do with covid though? Lmfao.

CelticBaller
08-15-2021, 08:54 AM
The funny thing is that some right wingers do believe Biden is a socialist lol

Nanners
08-15-2021, 10:45 AM
This gargantuan waste of life/time/money is going to go down in history as another example of why they call Afghanistan the "graveyard of empires"

The whole world can see that the emperor has no clothes

Chick Stern
08-15-2021, 11:39 AM
This gargantuan waste of life/time/money is going to go down in history as another example of why they call Afghanistan the "graveyard of empires"

The whole world can see that the emperor has no clothes
Yes, but he was voted out of office

theman93
08-15-2021, 12:53 PM
5,000 prisoners who are known terrorists have been released since evacuating our base - which includes ISIS.

Our southern border is wide open.

Any guesses on what happens next?

Nanners
08-15-2021, 01:13 PM
5,000 prisoners who are known terrorists have been released since evacuating our base - which includes ISIS.

Our southern border is wide open.

Any guesses on what happens next?

AOC puts on a white suit and pretends to cry in front of a chain link fence?

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 04:23 PM
AOC puts on a white suit and pretends to cry in front of a chain link fence?

:lol

theman93
08-15-2021, 07:02 PM
https://i.ibb.co/pWYmVj0/bidenfail.png

theman93
08-15-2021, 07:33 PM
this has been used as a scare tactic to low IQ right wing folks for an eternity and we've yet to see a terrorist attack happen from some middle eastern gaining passage to the US through the Mexico border. considering how the CIA helps cartels pass their drugs into the US, this is unlikely to happen since cartels have not gotten in bed with middle eastern terrorists. but it ropes in voters!

the discussion your ilk doesn't want to have is how white incels have been culpable for the most recent terrorist attacks/mass shootings. :rolleyes:

A record number of illegal border crossings is a right wing scare tactic?

Our Homeland Security Secretary calling the southern border crisis, "unsustainable" is a right wing scare tactic?

Our Homeland Security Secretary saying "we can’t continue like this, our people in the field can’t continue, and our system isn’t built for it" is a right wing scare tactic?

Our Homeland Security Secretary seeking 2,000 new agents in the 2023 budget because the southern border situation is so out of control is a right wing scare tactic?

H.R. 1177 being introduced to Congress - the largest amnesty bill ever proposed in the history of the United States which would give 11 million and counting undocumented illegal aliens citizenship - is a right wing scare tactic?

theman93
08-15-2021, 07:59 PM
re-read my comment. it was in regards to your original comment implying a 5,000 recently liberated terrorists and a wide open mexico border. you made the connection, and i replied to that. it's a scare tactic for right wingers to imply terrorists will start crossing through the US-Mexico border.
False assumption.

Guess which terrorist organization is pissed we murdered their leader?

At which point in time in US history has it been easier to cross our southern border than it is now?

At which point in time in US history has our U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency been as overwhelmed as it is now?

At which point in time in modern US history has a sitting administration been as buddy-buddy with undocumented illegal immigrants as the current administration?

You don't have to be right wing to connect the dots.


this has been used as a scare tactic to low IQ right wing folks for an eternity and we've yet to see a terrorist attack happen from some middle eastern gaining passage to the US through the Mexico border.
"It's never happened before, so no way it happens now or in the future!"

theman93
08-15-2021, 08:51 PM
i said "unlikely" and my comment was anchored on the fact that it's been a scare tactic for a long time.

you also didn't address the other point, white incels/extreme right wingers are the biggest terrorist threat this country faces.

You don't need to be in bed with the cartel to successfully infiltrate the southern border in 2021.

Remind me, was as it extreme right wingers or extreme left wingers that spent 2020 doing this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaPpHRGBNI8&ab_channel=Riots

Edit: And before you bring up the January 6th "insurrection", why are government prosecutors literally hiding their "evidence" and why is hard left liberal judge Emmett Sullivan calling them out for it?

Lakers Legend#32
08-15-2021, 09:07 PM
Trump said he would get all US troops out of Afghanistan, but then he got bored and forgot all about it.

Patrick Chewing
08-15-2021, 09:23 PM
The guys that bullied Biden out of Afghanistan:

https://twitter.com/EmmaJoNYC/status/1427071855559692291?s=19

:roll:

theman93
08-15-2021, 09:50 PM
let me know when you want to actually have a discussion rather than moving the goal post to suit your agenda.

No goal post was shifted. You claimed it was a scare tactic because it's unlikely, and I gave logical reasons why it's a prevalent possibility. Your "unlikely" comment was rooted in the idea that the cartels have not gotten in bed with middle eastern terrorists, but the fact is that doesn't even matter in the context of our current border situation when anyone who wants to is crossing.

In your separate point you said white incels/extreme right wingers are the biggest terrorist threat this country faces. I disagreed and challenged that assertion by showing the riots of 2020 (which claimed at least 25 lives, injured more than 2,000 officers, caused at least 1-2 billion in damages, and destroyed thousands of businesses and properties) which were carried out by far left wing extremists. Prove me wrong.

Axe
08-15-2021, 09:57 PM
Right wingers on massive meltdowns rn right and left.

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 10:40 PM
Trump said he would get all US troops out of Afghanistan, but then he got bored and forgot all about it.


he was busy fighting with SNL and the NFL.

while hiding in his troll basement.

theman93
08-15-2021, 10:43 PM
south american/mexican immigrants=not anyone, and most definitely not taliban

Oh so in the context of our current southern border situation, someone who isn't south american/mexican we're going to automatically turn away?


25 lives is unfortunate, far too many for civil disruptions. but the las vegas shooting resulted in 66 deaths alone and 411 injured people. when it comes to domestic terror attacks, whites have the market cornered. but i guess right wingers would prefer to use the old school method of blaming minorities when the data suggests whtie males are the most prevalent perpetrators of domestic terror attacks in America. in fact, of the 124 mass shootings in the US (between 1982 and 2021), 66 of them (the majority by a big margin) have been by white males, more specifically american born white males.
I never argued white or blacks. I argued far left extremists which can be of any race. Nice strawman.

How many of those 124 mass shooting can you unequivocally prove were far right extremists? The Las Vegas shooter doesn't fit the "far right extremist" bill either based upon the investigations conducted.

Patrick Chewing
08-15-2021, 10:54 PM
https://i.ibb.co/M2mMywv/Biden-sucks.png

DoctorP
08-15-2021, 11:02 PM
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theman93
08-15-2021, 11:15 PM
you need to re-read my original post. i'll give you that vegas shooter was not politically affiliated to the right (at least there's no evidence whatsoever), but, my original post was to prove that the right uses the open border as a scare tactic to pray on the fear of low iq right wingers that a terrorist will come through the south border. until one actually does, it remains a scare tactic because in the decades long spamming of this, it has not happened. it's a scare tactic until it does happen. and i am using the mass casualty data to prove that you're party loves to spread fear about brown people being capable of a lot of bad in this country when the ACTUAL data suggests you should fear the incels at your local trump rally more than any brown person in the middle east.

sorry, you lose. hard data will always prevail in a discussion, at least when you are using right wing scare tactics to argue against it.

"but, but but you can't definitely say it won't happen". you also can't guarantee aliens won't invade the world tomorrow, but you plan around what is more likely to happen. worrying about unlikely scenarios results in illogical thoughts, emotions, and fear. that's how you get seething right wingers freaking out in public bc they hear a minority speak their native tounge "speak english, this is America!!" *spits all over the room while people look in despair that they share the same earth as this mouthbreather*

Good, so you admit you have no way of proving that far extreme right wingers are the biggest terrorist threat this country faces. Moving on then.

You can call it a scare tactic, that's fine. At the same time, given the current situations at hand, it's not unfathomable to come to a logical conclusion the possibility of it happening has never been more likely.

Edit: Btw you're attacking another strawman. I never argued "brown people in the middle east" should be more or less feared. I argued far left wing extremists, of any race, pose a greater domestic terror threat. Oh and btw, domestic terror isn't limited to mass shootings.

theman93
08-16-2021, 12:13 AM
some of those shooters have been linked to right wing affiliations though. the vegas shooter is just one of 66.

What an interesting advisory from Homeland Security...

https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-august-13-2021

gee, i wonder who they are referring to https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/jbhmmm.png

How many of those 66 are confirmed far right wing extremists? Or are you assuming they’re far right wing extremists because they just so happen to be white? (PS: white people can be far left wing extremists too).

And yes, those who conduct “attacks” are terrorists. Now, show me the data of “attacks” performed against governing authorities because of re-established public health restrictions. After you gather that data, compare it to the “attacks” BLM and Antifa performed against governing authorities.

DoctorP
08-16-2021, 12:19 AM
Biden has the balls to take the heat. I'm sure he knew this would happen. Enough is enough. Stop babying these Afghanis that can't even take care of themselves. Soft. Imagine being France and trying to stop the American Revolution. AT a certain point just GTFO. Vietnam 2.

Plus we are cool with China now, we want to work with them to get proper deals on iphones and help them continue their steady rise to the top. We owe them a lot of cash already.

GOOD JOB BIDEN.

Mission Accomplished. WW3 averted for now.

:dancin

DoctorP
08-16-2021, 12:30 AM
I , for one, love chinese food.

theman93
08-16-2021, 12:54 AM
i'll stick to my original claim. you're spreading fear about a porous border when the larger threat (based on hard data) is in our own house.

Of course you will because you can’t answer the challenge I presented to you.

Simply because the larger threat looms on our own turf (I argue far left extremists) doesn’t mean other threats should be ignored.

Lakers Legend#32
08-16-2021, 01:11 AM
We knew we were going to lose this war from the very beginning. Everyone knew this was how it was going to end.
Bush and the neocons did not care it was all about defense contracts and war profiteering.

theman93
08-16-2021, 01:41 AM
you're trying to steer this into a right vs left when my original claim was the larger threat is domestic. keep saying whatever you want, i am not wrong about that. i will admit extremism from both sides has produced anti government agents and continues to be a threat to public security. still doesn't give you any ammo to continue pushing the border issue.

and you focus on the larger threat because in the real world you don't have infinite resources. scare tactics are just cheap politics to attack vulnerabilities of the mind: irrational fears. this whole discussion is based on that...you trying to make a point out of irrational fears. good luck with that buddy. i'm pretty sure the FBI and whatever other 3 letter LE agency tracking domestic threats are not losing sleep over the border, they're more worried about idiots like the ones that attacked the nation's capitol and the incels that shoot up places with a lot of people.

So again, you can’t answer the challenge I presented to you.

Secondly, you were the one who brought up far right extremists and even brought it up a second time after I initially ignored it. So in actuality you are the one who tried to steer the conversation, but bowed out because you couldn’t prove your claim.

Thirdly, your original claim was that the border+Afghanistan situation was a scare tactic, not that the larger threat looms domestically. We agree the larger threat looms domestically, but we disagree on the who.

Fourthly, I agree the larger threat deserves the bulk of the focus. You’re attacking a straw man, again, for the third time now. That still doesn’t mean other threats shouldn’t be addressed.

Jasper
08-17-2021, 11:19 PM
from what I heard, the troops are there to help with the pullout.

not trying to finish too hard inside. want a nice flow out of that hellhole.

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