Top 10 GOAT peak season?

[iamgine]

If you could only pick 1 season for every NBA players and disregard the rest, how would the GOAT list look like?

1. Hakeem's 94 season
2. Wilt's 50 ppg season
3. Lebron's 16 season
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10.

Reasonable? Would players like Rick Barry with his lone championship season make it?

[8Ball]

2018 playoff Bron was the GOAT. Nothing else Bron did was this impressive.

[MrFonzworth]

2018 playoff Bron was the GOAT. Nothing else Bron did was this impressive.

You mean when he quit and got swept? Yikes

[8Ball]

You mean when he quit and got swept? Yikes


Quit like retire from mental fatigue in 1993? And quit in 98 cuz krause bullied you?


No.

[MrFonzworth]

Whataboutisms

Meltdown

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Top 10:

1) 2019 kawhi

2) 1992 jordan

3) 2016 lebron

4) 2021 Giannis

5) 1994 hakeem

6) 2000 shaq

7) 2009 Kobe

8) 1984 larry bird

9) Kevin Durant 2014

10) Stephen Curry 2015

Guys who missed the cut:

Kareem - never had a true dominant peak as 1971 was the ABA era and lacked of advanced stats, 1980 injured

Duncan and bill russell - never dominant enough offensively

Wilt - always the 4th scoring option or choking his ass off like a piece of shit

Jerry west - not great enough in his 1972 ring and choked every other year

[3ba11]

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Titles with super-teams or equal-scoring partners (1b's) are immediately disqualified:


1) 93' Jordan
2) 98' Jordan
3) 97' Jordan
4) 91' Jordan
5) 92' Jordan
6) 09' Kobe
7) 10' Kobe
8) 11' Dirk
9) 19' Kawhi
10) 96' Jordan

[1987_Lakers]

I've never seen anyone dominate in the playoffs like 2018 LeBron, picking a peak for him will always be tough, do you go when he was in his offensive peak ('16-'18) or when he had DPOY caliber defense in '12 & '13?

Peak wise MJ & LeBron are 1A 1B. After that, it would look something like...

3. '00 Shaq
4. '93 & '94 Hakeem
5. '77 Kareem
6. '86 Bird
7. '03 Duncan
8. '87 Magic

After that, the last 2 spots are a tossup between, KG, Walton, Curry, & Durant for me.

[iamgine]

I've never seen anyone dominate in the playoffs like 2018 LeBron, picking a peak for him will always be tough, do you go when he was in his offensive peak ('16-'18) or when he had DPOY caliber defense in '12 & '13?

Peak wise MJ & LeBron are 1A 1B. After that, it would look something like...

3. '00 Shaq
4. '93 & '94 Hakeem
5. '77 Kareem
6. '86 Bird
7. '03 Duncan
8. '87 Magic

After that, the last 2 spots are a tossup between, KG, Walton, Curry, & Durant for me.
What makes MJ & Lebron's single season greater than, say, 94 Hakeem or 00 Shaq? Which season would you say it is?

[RRR3]

I've never seen anyone dominate in the playoffs like 2018 LeBron, picking a peak for him will always be tough, do you go when he was in his offensive peak ('16-'18) or when he had DPOY caliber defense in '12 & '13?

Peak wise MJ & LeBron are 1A 1B. After that, it would look something like...

3. '00 Shaq
4. '93 & '94 Hakeem
5. '77 Kareem
6. '86 Bird
7. '03 Duncan
8. '87 Magic

After that, the last 2 spots are a tossup between, KG, Walton, Curry, & Durant for me.
His defense was still amazing in 2016.

[1987_Lakers]

What makes MJ & Lebron's single season greater than, say, 94 Hakeem or 00 Shaq? Which season would you say it is?

Probably '90-'92 MJ and '12 & '13 LeBron.

Hakeem to me lacked court vision and because of that he needed shooters to maximize his passing and overall ability and while Shaq is right up there MJ & LeBron on offense, he was a horrific free throw shooter and his defense was a level below guys like D-Rob, Duncan, Hakeem, & Walton.

MJ is the greatest scorer ever along with top level defense, LeBron is the greatest floor raiser ever, he could lead a team full of average players farther than any player in history, all-time great scorer & passer to go along with elite defense as well, not many can make that claim.

[3ba11]

Probably '90-'92 MJ and '12 & '13 LeBron.

Hakeem to me lacked court vision and because of that he needed shooters to maximize his passing and overall ability and while Shaq is right up there MJ & LeBron on offense, he was a horrific free throw shooter and his defense was a level below guys like D-Rob, Duncan, Hakeem, & Walton.


The story of Lebron's entire career is that he "needs shooters"... that's a weakness in skills that limits team ceiling

The fact that he needs the ball in his hands is a weakness in his skills compared to other greats and ultimately explains why his teams were normally underdogs on the championship level and never dynasties

His raw talent is enough to still accomplish more than most players, but falls short of the very best, i.e. bird, MJ, Kobe, Duncan, etc - guys that had skill without the ball in their hands, thereby fitting with more player types and having better teamwork for a better team

[kennygriffin]

If you could only pick 1 season for every NBA players and disregard the rest, how would the GOAT list look like?

1. Hakeem's 94 season
2. Wilt's 50 ppg season
3. Lebron's 16 season
.
.
.
10.

Reasonable? Would players like Rick Barry with his lone championship season make it?



damn kyries 2016 run must be top 2 then

[1987_Lakers]

The story of Lebron's entire career is that he "needs shooters"... that's a weakness in skills that limits team ceiling


Myth, his team shot the ball very poorly from 3 in the 2018 playoffs, they ranked something like 15th out of the 16 teams who made the postseason that year in terms of 3pt%, 2nd to worst, still managed to get his 9 apg and led a team full of bums to the Finals.

[SouBeachTalents]

1. 1991 Jordan
2. 2018 LeBron
3. 1994 Hakeem
4. 2000 Shaq
5. 1977 Kareem
6. 1967 Wilt
7. 2003 Duncan
8. 1986 Bird
9. 1987 Magic
10. 2016 Curry

The first 9 are set in stone, the 10th spot though could go to SO many different players lol, I just gave it to Curry since that was the GOAT regular season

[3ba11]

Myth, his team shot the ball very poorly from 3 in the 2018 playoffs, they ranked something like 15th out of the 16 teams who made the postseason that year in terms of 3pt%, 2nd to worst, still managed to get his 9 apg and led a team full of bums to the Finals.


So you found a single exception in 2 decades?... The existence of exceptions prove the rule

Lebron "needs shooters" for his entire career.

Btw, Lebron had the best 2nd option in the conference in 2018 - I don't know why people say he carried bums when he had a good 2-star team and a cast full of veteran champions..

Lebron's 2 Finals runs without super-teams (07', 18') is just like Iverson, Kidd, Dwight, Butler, Kawhi or Giannis winning the East... And Lebron left a couple runs on the table as the favorite in 09' and 10'..

[kennygriffin]

#1 Hakeem 94
#2 Jordan 92
#3 Shaq 00
#4 Kobe 09
#5 Kareem 71
#6 Magic 87
#7 Bird 84
#8 Russell 62
#9 Duncan 03
#10 Wilt 67



sorry i don't list cheaters/losers/people twice

[Smoke117]

#1 Hakeem 94
#2 Jordan 92
#3 Shaq 00
#4 Kobe 09
#5 Kareem 71
#6 Magic 87
#7 Bird 84
#8 Russell 62
#9 Duncan 03
#10 Wilt 67



sorry i don't list cheaters/losers/people twice

Kobe wasn't that great in 09, mate. Also, Jordan would have a decade of seasons better than Kobe in 09. Also, you say you didn't list "cheaters/losers/ people twice", but apparently fail to realize that Magic basically forced himself on to the Lakers.

[kennygriffin]

Kobe wasn't that great in 09, mate. Also, Jordan would have a decade of seasons better than Kobe in 09. Also, you say you didn't list "cheaters/losers/ people twice", but apparently fail to realize that Magic basically forced himself on to the Lakers.

if lebron ever went to a team with adam morrison, sasha vujacic, dj mbenga, luke walton, shannon brown, sun yue, jordan farmar he would immediately demand they all be traded for an older star and they would use bynum and his 6ppg finals averaging a** to make the deal happen cause he shows promise for the future. then he would call up a bunch of his friends to come sign for the minimum

kobe went back to back with them

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/70/44/727044355e454aa8ce994669424d3615.jpg

[Smoke117]

if lebron ever went to a team with adam morrison, sasha vujacic, dj mbenga, luke walton, shannon brown, sun yue, jordan farmar he would immediately demand they all be traded for an older star and they would use bynum and his 6ppg finals averaging a** to make the deal happen cause he shows promise for the future. then he would call up a bunch of his friends to come sign for the minimum

kobe went back to back with them

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/72/70/44/727044355e454aa8ce994669424d3615.jpg

And yet LeBron James will go down as a top 3-5 player all time while Kobe is borderline top 10 and will definitely fall out of that as time goes on...you mad, bro?

[3ba11]

And yet LeBron James will go down as a top 3-5 player all time while Kobe is borderline top 10 and will definitely fall out of that as time goes on...you mad, bro?


What if AD gets injured again like the 2021 First Round?

What if Lebron gets injured again like 2019?

Lebron's Laker tenure has been disappointment outside the bubble ring

[kennygriffin]

And yet LeBron James will go down as a top 3-5 player all time while Kobe is borderline top 10 and will definitely fall out of that as time goes on...you mad, bro?

to who? all i hear from past/current players is kobe/mike are the bar

lebron is forgettable and will eventually be exposed for his steroids once he stops making his friends around him money and they turn on him/write a book ala jose canseco

[Smoke117]

What if AD gets injured again like the 2021 First Round?

What if Lebron gets injured again like 2019?

Lebron's Laker tenure has been disappointment outside the bubble ring

lol At this point it's impossible for lebron to fail. A player who has played this long with all those minutes built up shouldn't be as good as Lebron still is, moron. The fact that you are here hating and trying to build him like he's still in his prime or something only goes to show how great he still is...so good job in only building up someone you despise, chief. :oldlol:

[coastalmarker99]

1. 1991 Jordan
2. 2018 LeBron
3. 1994 Hakeem
4. 2000 Shaq
5. 1977 Kareem
6. 1967 Wilt
7. 2003 Duncan
8. 1986 Bird
9. 1987 Magic
10. 2016 Curry

The first 9 are set in stone, the 10th spot though could go to SO many different players lol, I just gave it to Curry since that was the GOAT regular season


1967 Wilt is number one when it comes to GOAT peak season.


24 points 24 rebounds 8 assists plus 10.6 blocks per game on 68 percent shooting in the regular season is god tier.


And then in the playoffs, he averaged.

21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS FG% 57.9



Wilt in 1967 set the playoff record for most triple-doubles and quadruple-doubles in a single playoff run.

[coastalmarker99]

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[coastalmarker99]

Here is the defensive data about Wilt's 1967 playoff run if you are interested in it.

1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS. CINCINNATI ROYALS

GAME 1 41 PTS 22 REBS 5 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 2 37 PTS 27 REBS 11 ASTS 6 BLKS

GAME 3 16 PTS 30 REBS 19 ASTS 14 BLKS

GAME 4 18 PTS 27 REBS 9 ASTS 12 BLKS

CONFERENCE PLAYOFF AVERAGE 28.0 PTS 26.5 REBS 11.0 ASTS 10.2 BLKS


1967 EASTERN CONFERENCE FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS. BOSTON CELTICS

GAME 1 24 PTS 32 REBS 13 ASTS 12 BLKS

GAME 2 15 PTS 29 REBS 5 ASTS 5 BLKS

GAME 3 20 PTS 41 REBS 9 ASTS 5 BLKS

GAME 4 20 PTS 22 REBS 10 ASTS 8 BLKS

GAME 5 29 PTS 36 REBS 13 ASTS 17 BLKS

CONFERENCE FINAL AVERAGE 21.6 PTS 32.0 REBS 10.0 ASTS 9.4 BLKS


1967 NBA FINALS: PHILADELPHIA 76ERS VS. SAN FRANCISCO WARRIORS

GAME 1 16 PTS 33 REBS 10 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 2 10 PTS 38 REBS 10 ASTS 10 BLKS

GAME 3 26 PTS 26 REBS 5 ASTS 8 BLKS

GAME 4 10 PTS 27 REBS 8 ASTS 15 BLKS

GAME 5 20 PTS 24 REBS 4 ASTS 13 BLKS

GAME 6 24 PTS 23 REBS 4 ASTS 6 BLKS

NBA FINALS AVERAGE 17.6 PTS 28.5 REBS 6.8 ASTS 10.1 BLKS


1967 Playoffs 15 games 21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS

[RRR3]

So you found a single exception in 2 decades?... The existence of exceptions prove the rule

Lebron "needs shooters" for his entire career.

Btw, Lebron had the best 2nd option in the conference in 2018 - I don't know why people say he carried bums when he had a good 2-star team and a cast full of veteran champions..

Lebron's 2 Finals runs without super-teams (07', 18') is just like Iverson, Kidd, Dwight, Butler, Kawhi or Giannis winning the East... And Lebron left a couple runs on the table as the favorite in 09' and 10'..
LeBron literally won a ring with a horrible shooting team in 2020. He does not need shooters he’s literally proved it.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

1967 Wilt is number one when it comes to GOAT peak season.


24 points 24 rebounds 8 assists plus 10.6 blocks per game on 68 percent shooting in the regular season is god tier.


And then in the playoffs, he averaged.

21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS FG% 57.9



Wilt in 1967 set the playoff record for most triple-doubles and quadruple-doubles in a single playoff run.

FG attempts:

1) Hal Greer at 25FGA
2) Chet Walker at 16.4
3) Wali Jones at 16.3
4) Wilt "The big choker" at 15.2
5) Billy Cunningham at 14.7

You're practically 5th scoring option and scoring a load with Billy Cunningham, yet claiming goat? Chet Walker even out shot Wilt and his greatest accomplishment in terms of all nba's was making all rookie team.

Don't get me started on his finals performance when he got outscored by Wali Jones who has never even made an allstar team. Wilt was the FIFTH scoring option in the 1967 finals.

That 67 run from Wilt at best compared to Kawhi's 2014 due to the scoring load. Kawhi was co leading scorer with Tony Parker in the finals (both averaging the same number 18) and Wilt had four different guys who outscored him.

[ArbitraryWater]

2016? wut

2018 LeBron is #1 easily and then everyone else lines up after

[Axe]

Quit like retire from mental fatigue in 1993? And quit in 98 cuz krause bullied you?


No.
Wtf. He's not even an mj stan. :roll:

[8Ball]

2016? wut

2018 LeBron is #1 easily and then everyone else lines up after

2012 was also up there with 2018.


Bosh went down vs Indiana and Boston so Bron played with zero bigs.


Bron had huge games vs Indiana and then a the infamous game 6 Boston.



2018 Bron
2012 Bron
94 Hakeem
2000 Shaq

[8Ball]

Wtf. He's not even an mj stan. :roll:

So? My post stands. If Bron quit in 2018, we have to be consistent and go back and call MJ the biggest quitter of all time for quitting in 93 and 98.

Ill gladly have history updated to say bron quit in 2018 if the world will acknowledge jordan is biggest quitter of all time.

[Smoke117]

What if AD gets injured again like the 2021 First Round?

What if Lebron gets injured again like 2019?

Lebron's Laker tenure has been disappointment outside the bubble ring

LeBron doesn't need to do anything anymore, dumb shit. He's already going to go down as top 3 regardless of what he does now. He pretty much easily has the most minutes played by far of anyone his age ever. It's legitimately not even close. You keep going on like he has something to prove when he's going into his 19th season. He has 61,590k minutes played to Jordan's 48,485k and we saw how garbage Jordan was at the end despite taking 5 years off total for "retirement breaks" during his career.