spend TRILLIONS so the taliban can retake afghan overnight

[highwhey]

US spent trillions with the most expensive military humans have ever produced, only for some cave dwellers to retake back the country in a matter of days :facepalm





https://youtu.be/QROS0JHueaM


https://youtu.be/VEC6bICliak


https://youtu.be/EqQREMUWe5I

America is taking a BIG L with this one. should have stayed far away from that shit hole. the most concerning part of this is this country will not learn anything from it. should have listened to eisenhower about the military industrial complex. didn't learn after NAM, won't learn after this war. there's also a discussion to be had about how underwhelming the American military is...can't win any wars unless we nuke em'. :biggums:

[FultzNationRISE]

US spent trillions with the most expensive military humans have ever produced, only for some cave dwellers to retake back the country in a matter of days :facepalm





https://youtu.be/QROS0JHueaM


https://youtu.be/VEC6bICliak


https://youtu.be/EqQREMUWe5I

America is taking a BIG L with this one. should have stayed far away from that shit hole. the most concerning part of this is this country will not learn anything from it. should have listened to eisenhower about the military industrial complex. didn't learn after NAM, won't learn after this war. there's also a discussion to be had about how underwhelming the American military is...can't win any wars unless we nuke em'. :biggums:


Wrong forum, chubbs.

[DoctorP]

https://i.ibb.co/vm0HcpF/pamjTG4.jpg

[AKA_AAP]

Racist joe biden's america. Now the Racist biden variant is taking over the world. :facepalm

[highwhey]

Racist joe biden's america. Now the Racist biden variant is taking over the world. :facepalm

let's not pretend like this would play out any different under any other president. whoever is in that office is just a sock puppet to those that profit from having a thriving defense industry, a corrupt banking system and citizens point their finger at each other claiming it's the other sides fault for whatever is the hot topic of the week.

[diamenz]

let's not pretend like this would play out any different under any other president. whoever is in that office is just a sock puppet to those that profit from having a thriving defense industry, a corrupt banking system and citizens point their finger at each other claiming it's the other sides fault for whatever is the hot topic of the week.

political hacks don't see it that way.

[FultzNationRISE]

political hacks don't see it that way.


Pretty sure the poster he quoted was intentionally lampooning the “war is horrible and wrong.... ONLY WHEN REPUBLICANS DO IT!!!!” sect.

[diamenz]

Pretty sure the poster he quoted was intentionally lampooning the “war is horrible and wrong.... ONLY WHEN REPUBLICANS DO IT!!!!” sect.

where in the op is there any mention of republicans, democrats, trump, or biden? the thread was apolitical until post #4.

isn't post #4 the equivalent to an 'orange man bad'?

edit: maybe not an 'omb', but rather a 'tds'.

[FultzNationRISE]

where in the op is there any mention of republicans, democrats, trump, or biden? the thread was apolitical until post #4.

isn't post #4 the equivalent to an 'orange man bad'?

edit: maybe not an 'omb', but rather a 'tds'.


The original post was about perpetual war and the politics involved. It's pretty well known ISH - and American political discourse in general - has a long history of loud and passionate opposition to war... but only when a republican is in office. The "War is Evil" crowd only seems to feel that way when it advances their broader partisan preferences.

I'm pretty sure the post about 'racist joe biden's war' was simply dishing out a taste of those same people's own medicine.

Not saying it was a productive or relevant contribution, just pointing out the poster was likely being more satirical than serious.

[diamenz]

The original post was about perpetual war and the politics involved. It's pretty well known ISH - and American political discourse in general - has a long history of loud and passionate opposition to war... but only when a republican is in office. The "War is Evil" crowd only seems to feel that way when it advances their broader partisan preferences.

I'm pretty sure the post about 'racist joe biden's war' was simply dishing out a taste of those same people's own medicine.

Not saying it was a productive or relevant contribution, just pointing out the poster was likely being more satirical than serious.

well, sure... but that's a large generality. as far as THIS thread goes though, and the people currently participating in it... there's no reason to assume it's an all out attack or war on republicans. in some liberal stronghold like reddit or in the circle of a few yuppies hanging outside of a starbucks i'd agree with you completely, but regardless of ish's partisan banter, the people here on both sides are pretty well informed and don't rely on msn talking points like "war??? republicans did it!" or "socialism bad"! ...aside from a few braindead apples.

whatever though, no sense in arguing over this.

[Patrick Chewing]

I like how that fat simpleton OP says "America" is taking a big L on this one. No you brown pendejo, it's that old White geezer Biden that you voted for who's taking the L on this one. So much so that he's going to address the nation on it. Incompetent President elected by incompetent Americans like OP.

[Patrick Chewing]

These are the guys that bullied Biden out of Afghanistan:

https://twitter.com/EmmaJoNYC/status/1427071855559692291?s=19

:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Note to Democrats: What happened in Kabul is an actual "Insurrection".

[highwhey]

Note to Democrats: What happened in Kabul is an actual "Insurrection".

you guys attempted to overturn an election by rushing the nation's capitol while congress were preparing to certify the election. that is an insurrection, of course the taliban's version is more violent bc they are savages, but that does not diminish what right wingers did on January 6. you have to be mentally ill to believe the taliban takeover improves the optics on the January 6 attack. you drink the kool aid so hard you don't even pause to breathe and look at what you are saying.

[Patrick Chewing]

you guys attempted to overturn an election by rushing the nation's capitol while congress were preparing to certify the election. that is an insurrection, of course the taliban's version is more violent bc they are savages, but that does not diminish what right wingers did on January 6. you have to be mentally ill to believe the taliban takeover improves the optics on the January 6 attack. you drink the kool aid so hard you don't even pause to breathe and look at what you are saying.


Trump definitely had terms to their withdrawal.

This withdrawal seems completely unplanned and unprepared. The Afgahni President even fled the country! This pullout was clearly political and these incompetent buffoons in the White House really thought this was going to look well for them. Completely backfired on them. And I'm glad.

Democrats scrambling quick for a response to save face:

- Talk about "Orange Man Bad"
- Talk about the Sturgis Rally and Covid
- Talk about January 6th
- Talk about racism!

:oldlol:

:roll:

[highwhey]

:roll:

you're the one that brought it up...

the cholesterol is degrading your neurons

[MrFonzworth]

Wrong forum, chubbs.

:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

:roll:

:roll:

[DoctorP]

China is the winner in all of this. They backed the Taliban and are seen as the freedom fighters against the oppressive USA empire.

[Patrick Chewing]

China is the winner in all of this. They backed the Taliban and are seen as the freedom fighters against the oppressive USA empire.

yup

[Patrick Chewing]

https://i.ibb.co/M2mMywv/Biden-sucks.png

[Axe]

Biden still cleaning up the mess that trump left.

[bladefd]

China is the winner in all of this. They backed the Taliban and are seen as the freedom fighters against the oppressive USA empire.

Let China go into Afghanistan. They have been eyeing the middle east for a while now.

Anyone who has tried to conquer and hold Afghanistan for centuries upon centuries have come out with massive losses and hell. It's not like Afghanistan became unstable like this just a couple decades ago. Try 5-6 centuries. The soviets failed recently in 1980s. The British failed to hold it in the 18th century. Before that, several Indian empires tried & failed. The Greeks couldn't hold it. Mongolian empire had success initially but couldn't hold it for much time. You can go back a couple thousand years.

[DoctorP]

Let China go into Afghanistan. They have been eyeing the middle east for a while now.

Anyone who has tried to conquer and hold Afghanistan for centuries upon centuries have come out with massive losses and hell. It's not like Afghanistan became unstable like this just a couple decades ago. Try 5-6 centuries. The soviets failed recently in 1980s. The British failed to hold it in the 18th century. Before that, several Indian empires tried & failed. The Greeks couldn't hold it. Mongolian empire had success initially but couldn't hold it for much time. You can go back a couple thousand years.

Are you kidding dude? China backed the Taliban and are probably already training them on how to order the #4 chicken Broccoli lunch special from the incoming onslaught of chinese restaurants throughout the region.

[CelticBaller]

Are you kidding dude? China backed the Taliban and are probably already training them on how to order the #4 chicken Broccoli lunch special from the incoming onslaught of chinese restaurants throughout the region.

Afghan is where empires go to die, stop trying to fear monger with China. Either the taliban turns on them or another rebel force comes out against China

[Manny98]

This happened under Bidens watch

[Gohan]

Trump should of sent his army that he had at the insurrection at the capital. That could of stopped afghan

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump should of sent his army that he had at the insurrection at the capital. That could of stopped afghan

You tried your best.

[theman93]

you guys attempted to overturn an election by rushing the nation's capitol while congress were preparing to certify the election. that is an insurrection, of course the taliban's version is more violent bc they are savages, but that does not diminish what right wingers did on January 6. you have to be mentally ill to believe the taliban takeover improves the optics on the January 6 attack. you drink the kool aid so hard you don't even pause to breathe and look at what you are saying.

:facepalm

If Jan 6th was such an insurrection why are government prosecutors literally hiding their "evidence" and why is hard left liberal judge Emmett Sullivan calling them out for it? Why did House Sergeant at Arms reject the request to send in the National Guard? Why did the police open up the barricades outside of the Capitol? Why did the police literally walk to the Capitol with the "insurrectionist" crowd?

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe you are the one whose drank the kool aid from the mainstream media? Ask yourself why the prosecutors aren't bringing their evidence of insurrection to the table.

[Gohan]

You tried your best.

Eh sometimes its a hit sometimes its a miss, but you have to pitch. Chewing youre the only kkk friend i have thats a grandmaster you should know, right buddy?

[n00bie]

Time for Russia to clean up America's mess again. LOL

[bladefd]

Are you kidding dude? China backed the Taliban and are probably already training them on how to order the #4 chicken Broccoli lunch special from the incoming onslaught of chinese restaurants throughout the region.

China is trying to get a foothold there in Afghanistan. That is why they supported the Taliban. If Chinese want control in Afghanistan, let them have it. That is what I was saying. The Taliban will turn on China in a decade or 2 just like they turned on us.

[CelticBaller]

Time for Russia to clean up America's mess again. LOL

Oh yeah t’s not like they went bankrupt and collapsed last time they went there lol

[Patrick Chewing]

China is trying to get a foothold there in Afghanistan. That is why they supported the Taliban. If Chinese want control in Afghanistan, let them have it. That is what I was saying. The Taliban will turn on China in a decade or 2 just like they turned on us.

:facepalm

Imagine wanting China to have more control of something, especially land.

[DoctorP]

China is trying to get a foothold there in Afghanistan. That is why they supported the Taliban. If Chinese want control in Afghanistan, let them have it. That is what I was saying. The Taliban will turn on China in a decade or 2 just like they turned on us.

The Chinese do not. They could, however, open restaurants

[bladefd]

:facepalm

Imagine wanting China to have more control of something, especially land.

The alternative is to keep our troops in Afghanistan forever or going to war with China over Afghanistan. You prefer the alternatives?

[DoctorP]

:facepalm

Imagine wanting China to have more control of something, especially land.

China is not going into afghanistan. they have a strict policy of non-colonialism

[Stephonit]

You think China likes what's going on? China prefers the United States deals with the Taliban.

[imdaman99]

No ones been able to control the area, as has already been stated.

[rawimpact]

No ones been able to control the area, as has already been stated.

Why are so many of the men in the area so quick to either run as a refugee or join the Taliban, ISIS or whatever flavor of choice available instead of creating an armed coalition?

I thought Islamic Extremists are a minority amongst muslims?

[imdaman99]

Why are so many of the men in the area so quick to either run as a refugee or join the Taliban, ISIS or whatever flavor of choice available instead of creating an armed coalition?

I thought Islamic Extremists are a minority amongst muslims?

Are you running from guns if you don't have any yourself? Ever bring a knife to a gunfight? Is it worth getting yourself killed and leaving your wife and kids to fend for themselves? It's the haves vs have-nots. I don't know from personal experience since I don't know anyone from the area but that's as much an answer I can give to ya.

[BigKobeFan]

China is not going into afghanistan. they have a strict policy of non-colonialism

what?

[DoctorP]

what?


from what I have read, China is not interested in building up Afghanistan and would like them as an ally. So I doubt they want to colonize Afghanistan or expand there.

But who knows, I'm not an expert.

The strict policy thing is something I threw out there based on some things I've read but Im not going to bank on that statement :lol

[bladefd]

China is not going into afghanistan. they have a strict policy of non-colonialism

They are buying up huge chunks of land in Africa and setting up bases there. They also set up a couple of bases in the Middle East. I'm sure they want bases in Afghanistan. China has adversaries everywhere across the world - South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, India, Israel, Europe, etc.

[bladefd]

Why are so many of the men in the area so quick to either run as a refugee or join the Taliban, ISIS or whatever flavor of choice available instead of creating an armed coalition?

I thought Islamic Extremists are a minority amongst muslims?

Even if you estimate minority of 1% of muslims being extremists, that's still a lot of people. Assuming there are 1bn Muslims, you are talking 10mill people.

[DoctorP]

They are buying up huge chunks of land in Africa and setting up bases there. They also set up a couple of bases in the Middle East. I'm sure they want bases in Afghanistan. China has adversaries everywhere across the world - South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, India, Israel, Europe, etc.

true. yes.

[eliteballer]

Why are so many of the men in the area so quick to either run as a refugee or join the Taliban, ISIS or whatever flavor of choice available instead of creating an armed coalition?

I thought Islamic Extremists are a minority amongst muslims?

This is isn't some movie, there's a million factors why they don't just "form an armed coalition".

We're talking history, culture, politics, resources etc. that affect why people do what they do.

It's easy to make elementary statements when you're sitting on your couch in some suburb.

It's like saying "why don't we just wipe out the Taliban?"

Don't try to make things simplistic.

[highwhey]

wow i just saw that video of them flying off in that plane...these guys are playing grand theft auto in real life...:biggums:



and we footed the bill :coleman:

[Jasper]

Racist joe biden's america. Now the Racist biden variant is taking over the world. :facepalm

all started with racist Trumpsters

[Jasper]

it could be the world is letting the degenerate Taliban get boxed in , and they will have no way out other than a nuc attack to hell ...

[warriorfan]

What is a more frivolous endeavor? Civilizing Afghanistan or trying to get op to stay sober?

[highwhey]

What is a more frivolous endeavor? Civilizing Afghanistan or trying to get op to stay sober?

funding the welfare system to subsidize your crack rock addiction

[warriorfan]

funding the welfare system to subsidize your crack rock addiction

Didn’t you say you have gone to rehab 5+ times? :roll:

Give it up bro. It’s a lost cause.

[Patrick Chewing]

Didn’t you say you have gone to rehab 5+ times? :roll:

Give it up bro. It’s a lost cause.

He's fat and lonely. The bottle is the only thing that isn't repulsed by him.

[theman93]

A small visual of the weaponry/equipment left behind:

https://twitter.com/CTPOLICELIVE/status/1427428651772137479?s=20

https://twitter.com/CTPOLICELIVE/status/1427428798824321024?s=20

[warriorfan]

He's fat and lonely. The bottle is the only thing that isn't repulsed by him.

Sunk cost fallacy actually makes sense in his situation considering the lack of other realistic options. Might as well go all in at this point.

[DoctorP]

A small visual of the weaponry/equipment left behind:

https://twitter.com/CTPOLICELIVE/status/1427428651772137479?s=20

https://twitter.com/CTPOLICELIVE/status/1427428798824321024?s=20

Dems always doing shit half ass :lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

Why are the Republicans so upset about the Taliban taking over the government?
Trump supporters tried to do the same here on January 6th.

[highwhey]

Why are the Republicans so upset about the Taliban taking over the government?
Trump supporters tried to do the same here on January 6th.

:roll:

[kennygriffin]

Why are the Republicans so upset about the Taliban taking over the government?
Trump supporters tried to do the same here on January 6th.

most of those people are confirmed antifa

was more than likely coordinated to create that "incitement" charge to try and impeach to prevent a 2024 run


https://i.ibb.co/3k1ZbXH/210106-capitol-protest-ew-332p.jpg


same guy pictured at BLM/antifa demonstration

https://i.ibb.co/mCZ2nxc/Screenshot-20210817-193034-Google.jpg

[diamenz]

most of those people are confirmed antifa

was more than likely coordinated to create that "incitement" charge to try and impeach to prevent a 2024 run


https://i.ibb.co/3k1ZbXH/210106-capitol-protest-ew-332p.jpg


same guy pictured at BLM/antifa demonstration

https://i.ibb.co/mCZ2nxc/Screenshot-20210817-193034-Google.jpg

gotta love a bi-partisan kinda guy!