People falling from airplane trying to get out of Afghanistan

[Patrick Chewing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XoV5gV2gUU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5m6V1Dv_So

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210816104316-video-thumbnail-kabul-airport-large-169.jpg



People running for their lives trying to flee the Taliban holding on to airplanes like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible.

[theman93]

What a disaster. People defending how we've exited are a complete laughing stock.

[Hey Yo]

I saw that earlier and was thinking that the plane had just landed, coming to a slow roll when dudes started jumping up and standing on parts of the plane sticking out under one of the wings.

Then heard them say it was before takeoff and some dudes never let go, falling to their death.

Crazy shit

[Hey Yo]

Biden scheduled to speak at 3:45est today. It was first reported that he didnt plan to till Wednesday.

I guess he got the message that many were asking what TF he's doing.

[Long Duck Dong]

Saigon all over again.

Nation building in the middle east is absolutely pointless. All the time, energy, money and lives lost are wasted the moment a first world nation stops policing it.

People like Assad, Saddam and the Taliban are good for the middle east. They bring order and more importantly fight with each other so less of their rage and resources are directed at us.

If they piss us off enough just bomb them into submission but putting boots on the ground in the ME is an error western nations continue to make over and over again.

[Joey Turnbuckle]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lq-54gox6-k/maxresdefault.jpg


https://www.scienceabc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/man-jumping-from-an-airplane-without-parachute.jpg


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dk3MMTEkngg/hqdefault.jpg

[Shogon]

1) That is incredibly, incredibly sad. It pains me to see such a thing.

2) These people are going to have to wake up and one day realize that nobody is going to be able to save their country except themselves. They have to be willing to die... in order to oust ideologues out of power that are willing to die for said power... the change can only come from within. It can come from absolutely no where else. The locals have to lay down their lives, not run, if they want change.

3) Unfortunately with relatively modern day weaponry held by the ideologues and the locals being without, the locals have to be even more willing to die and willing to go to even further extremes to end their plight than ever before.

[Patrick Chewing]

Biden scheduled to speak at 3:45est today. It was first reported that he didnt plan to till Wednesday.

I guess he got the message that many were asking what TF he's doing.

All he's gonna do is blame Trump.

[CelticBaller]

the US shouldn't be the world's police

[Hey Yo]

All he's gonna do is blame Trump.

No one will be falling for that bullshit. His ratings by the public will continue to spiral down the shitter.

[Gohan]

Say what you want.. but obama would of handled this

[JohnnySic]

7 months down, 41 to go for this dumpster fire of an administration.

[8Ball]

Biden scheduled to speak at 3:45est today. It was first reported that he didnt plan to till Wednesday.

I guess he got the message that many were asking what TF he's doing.

He was in camp david watching videos by himself and getting "briefings".


This is a worse foreign policy blunder than anything Trump ever did.

[Patrick Chewing]

Say what you want.. but obama would of handled this

Are you saying this solely because Obama is a Democrat?


Cause Benghazi fell on his lap and 4 Americans died during that terrorist attack. He sure handled that one alright :oldlol:

[Long Duck Dong]

2) These people are going to have to wake up and one day realize that nobody is going to be able to save their country except themselves. They have to be willing to die... in order to oust ideologues out of power that are willing to die for said power... the change can only come from within. It can come from absolutely no where else. The locals have to lay down their lives, not run, if they want change.

Exactly. But a lot of people assume the weak and poor in these shitholes are good people in a bad situation. In reality however....if most of them were given power they'd be doing exactly what the tyrants are doing at that point in time. It's ingrained in their beliefs.

But of important note. If they cannot find it within themselves to fight for freedom and justice. Do not flee to a country and bring the same values and beliefs from the shithole you fled from. Look at what the majority is doing there and try and mimic it or you will eventually turn your new beautiful home into the shithole you left.


https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/friday_prayers_paris001.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

No one will be falling for that bullshit. His ratings by the public will continue to spiral down the shitter.

I hope so. After all, these same people believed in the "Orange Man Bad" angle and voted for Biden cause you know.....Orange Man Bad!


https://i.ibb.co/8cBC6y3/E87-Mtv1-WQAQ64sx.jpg

[n00bie]

Exactly. But a lot of people assume the weak and poor in these shitholes are good people in a bad situation. In reality however....if most of them were given power they'd be doing exactly what the tyrants are doing at that point in time. It's ingrained in their beliefs.

But of important note. If they cannot find it within themselves to fight for freedom and justice. Do not flee to a country and bring the same values and beliefs from the shithole you fled from. Look at what the majority is doing there and try and mimic it or you will eventually turn your new beautiful home into the shithole you left.


https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/friday_prayers_paris001.jpg

All these people kissing that dirty ass floor to satisfy an imaginary figure.

[rawimpact]

Fantastic way to withdraw biden. Literally killing innocent lives trying to evacuate...

Whoever goes up against Biden is going to have a lot to work with here.

[Long Duck Dong]

This is one thing I'm usually in disagreement with Republicans. I remember Trump saying we need to get out of the middle east. I don't know why he's giving Biden a hard time over pulling out. Best to rip it off like a band aid and get the hell out of there now.

Send advisors, bombs and weapons for whatever regime we deem the least evil but lez go!

[Patrick Chewing]

This is one thing I'm usually in disagreement with Republicans. I remember Trump saying we need to get out of the middle east. I don't know why he's giving Biden a hard time over pulling out. Best to rip it off like a band aid and get the hell out of there now.

Send advisors, bombs and weapons for whatever regime we deem the least evil but lez go!

As I stated in the previous page I believe, it isn't about staying there, it's about how you exit. We're all in agreement that we don't need to be there, but now you have Taliban fighters using our weapons, our tanks, our helicopters. We basically armed the enemy.


And this also goes without saying, but seeing American forces and American citizens evacuating and running away for their lives is never a good look.

[8Ball]

As I stated in the previous page I believe, it isn't about staying there, it's about how you exit. We're all in agreement that we don't need to be there, but now you have Taliban fighters using our weapons, our tanks, our helicopters. We basically armed the enemy.


And this also goes without saying, but seeing American forces and American citizens evacuating and running away for their lives is never a good look.

This.

The optics are humiliating.

A bunch of mountain rats with rags kicked out the most powerful army in the world without a fight.

[DoctorP]

This.

The optics are humiliating.

A bunch of mountain rats with rags kicked out the most powerful army in the world without a fight.

Ever heard of Vietnam?

[8Ball]

Ever heard of Vietnam?

Yes. I remember how humiliating of a war that was. I don't think America has forgotten either.

[bladefd]

As I stated in the previous page I believe, it isn't about staying there, it's about how you exit. We're all in agreement that we don't need to be there, but now you have Taliban fighters using our weapons, our tanks, our helicopters. We basically armed the enemy.


And this also goes without saying, but seeing American forces and American citizens evacuating and running away for their lives is never a good look.

How would you exit Vietn.. I mean Afghanistan.. that wouldn't leave Afghanistan unstable and taliban taking back power?

[bladefd]

This.

The optics are humiliating.

A bunch of mountain rats with rags kicked out the most powerful army in the world without a fight.

Kicking out? We are pulling out by our own accord. We have been there 20 years and had taliban heeled under our boots. It's time to go. We spent a couple of trillion dollars there. We cannot afford to stay there forever.

[Patrick Chewing]

How would you exit Vietn.. I mean Afghanistan.. that wouldn't leave Afghanistan unstable and taliban taking back power?


Gee, I wonder why you're asking me this question. Are you truly under the assumption that there wasn't a better way to exit Afghanistan? You're another CelticBaller...."meh, it was gonna happen anyway".

[DoctorP]

Kicking out? We are pulling out by our own accord. We have been there 20 years and had taliban heeled under our boots. It's time to go. We spent a couple of trillion dollars there. We cannot afford to stay there forever.

Exactly. These aren't the 1940s. USA is in heavy debt and needs to become sustainable before it implodes.

[theman93]

How would you exit Vietn.. I mean Afghanistan.. that wouldn't leave Afghanistan unstable and taliban taking back power?

You can't ensure it. You're asking an impossible question to answer and you know it. All you can do is put them in the best possible position to succeed - which at the bare minimum would include basic communication and not leaving military arsenal/vehicles/equipment in a position for the Taliban to take - which we failed to do.

If you're not even going to do that bare minimum, is it too much to ask the administration to at least withdraw our civilians safely first?

[rawimpact]

When a country leaves, you destroy what is not worth taking with you. You dont just gift the country humvees and other military equipment only to be turned against you or your cause.

Did biden learn nothing from the US's history with vietnam?

[DoctorP]

When a country leaves, you destroy what is not worth taking with you. You dont just gift the country humvees and other military equipment only to be turned against you or your cause.

Did biden learn nothing from the US's history with vietnam?


Bidens old. Maybe he forgot :lol

[Long Duck Dong]

Not a fan of Biden and he's partly responsible for this whole mess to begin with by voting for it when he was a senator but he had this shitcan kicked to his feet by the 3 previous presidents and I applaud him for punting it into the lake. No better time than the present to deal with this mess.

[DoctorP]

Not a fan of Biden and he's partly responsible for this whole mess to begin with by voting for it when he was a senator but he had this shitcan kicked to his feet by the 3 previous presidents and I applaud him for punting it into the lake. No better time than the present to deal with this mess.

here, here! :cheers:

[bladefd]

Gee, I wonder why you're asking me this question. Are you truly under the assumption that there wasn't a better way to exit Afghanistan? You're another CelticBaller...."meh, it was gonna happen anyway".

What was the better way that would not lead to the Taliban takeover sooner or later? I'm putting you on the spot.

[rawimpact]

Q: Mr. President, some Vietnamese veterans see echoes of their experience in this withdrawal in Afghanistan. Do you see any parallels between this withdrawal and what happened in Vietnam, with some people feeling —THE PRESIDENT: None whatsoever. Zero. What you had is — you had entire brigades breaking through the gates of our embassy — six, if I’m not mistaken.
The Taliban is not the south — the North Vietnamese army. They’re not — they’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There’s going to be no circumstance where you see people being lifted off the roof of a embassy in the — of the United States from Afghanistan. It is not at all comparable. Biden also said that day, “the likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.”

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/biden-july-9-the-taliban-overrunning-everything-and-owning-the-whole-country-is-highly-unlikely/

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/INTERACTIVE_KABUL-FALLS4-01.jpg?w=770&resize=770%2C770

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/taliban-says-afghanistan-war-over-as-president-diplomats-flee

https://i.insider.com/6119682bc040ad0018ce63f1?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp
This striking photo was taken as the US rushed to evacuate its embassy in Kabul, which some critics are calling Biden's 'Saigon moment'

https://www.businessinsider.com/photo-captures-embassy-evacuation-some-call-bidens-saigon-moment-2021-8

[Patrick Chewing]

What was the better way that would not lead to the Taliban takeover sooner or later? I'm putting you on the spot.

Certainly not this way :oldlol:


This is why administrations surround themselves with the best possible minds, so we don't have **** ups like this.

[bladefd]

When a country leaves, you destroy what is not worth taking with you. You dont just gift the country humvees and other military equipment only to be turned against you or your cause.

Did biden learn nothing from the US's history with vietnam?

Vietnamese government was pretty much us. They had no standing army of their own when we were fighting the communist vietcong. There was nobody to leave weapons for.

Afghanistan did not begin to collapse until less than 2 months ago. Maybe even a month ago. Until that point, Afghanistan government and army was still in control with our help. We expected it to stay intact, which was why we decided to leave behind some of our equipment for them. Unfortunately, we didn't know the government and army would give up that fast and go running without fighting.

Hindsight is 20/20. Ifs, maybes and buts don't work. Coulda woulda shoulda does not work either.

[Rocket]

While I feel sorry for the people of the country who do not want the Taliban back this one does not bother me like everything else Biden has screwed up since he took office. We either leave troops there permanently or we pull out and the Taliban takes over. There is no middle ground. I am not sure if we should have been there to begin with with.

I have recently learned some facts about 9/11 that make me question the entire event and whether the 9/11 truthers are right. The fact that there was a drill going on on 9/11 specifically for airplanes being hijacked and flown into buildings that slowed the response leads me to think there may be a little fire where the smoke is surrounding 9/11. That is just too big of a coincidence and it was something I was completely unaware of until recently but I have researched it and found it to be true. We now all know just how bad the deep state actors truly are in our government. I think it is entirely possible the government was involved in 9/11 just to start wars. Wars make some people rich and trillions were spent on the war on terror.

[bladefd]

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/biden-july-9-the-taliban-overrunning-everything-and-owning-the-whole-country-is-highly-unlikely/

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/INTERACTIVE_KABUL-FALLS4-01.jpg?w=770&resize=770%2C770

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/16/taliban-says-afghanistan-war-over-as-president-diplomats-flee

https://i.insider.com/6119682bc040ad0018ce63f1?width=1000&format=jpeg&auto=webp
This striking photo was taken as the US rushed to evacuate its embassy in Kabul, which some critics are calling Biden's 'Saigon moment'

https://www.businessinsider.com/photo-captures-embassy-evacuation-some-call-bidens-saigon-moment-2021-8

Biden was wrong. Simple as that.

Having said that, we had to leave the country. We did not expect the Afghanistan government and military to give up that fast & become overwhelmed that fast. It's naive for Biden to expect the taliban to not take over the country, but it's possible they incorrectly underrated the taliban or overrated the afghan government/army. It's a very wrong assumption to make.

At the same thing, we don't know what Trump would have done differently or whether the result would be similar. We don't know what we don't know.

[DoctorP]

Vietnamese government was pretty much us. They had no standing army of their own when we were fighting the communist vietcong. There was nobody to leave weapons for.

Afghanistan did not begin to collapse until less than 2 months ago. Maybe even a month ago. Until that point, Afghanistan government and army was still in control with our help. We expected it to stay intact, which was why we decided to leave behind some of our equipment for them. Unfortunately, we didn't know the government and army would give up that fast and go running without fighting.

Hindsight is 20/20. Ifs, maybes and buts don't work. Coulda woulda shoulda does not work either.

It was a stupid war to begin with, all over fear of communism. USA lost, communists took over and then indocrinated capitalism over time. So dumb.

[Patrick Chewing]

While I feel sorry for the people of the country who do not want the Taliban back this one does not bother me like everything else Biden has screwed up since he took office. We either leave troops there permanently or we pull out and the Taliban takes over. There is no middle ground. I am not sure if we should have been there to begin with with.

I have recently learned some facts about 9/11 that make me question the entire event and whether the 9/11 truthers are right. The fact that there was a drill going on on 9/11 specifically for airplanes being hijacked and flown into buildings that slowed the response leads me to think there may be a little fire where the smoke is surrounding 9/11. That is just too big of a coincidence and it was something I was completely unaware of until recently but I have researched it and found it to be true. We now all know just how bad the deep state actors truly are in our government. I think it is entirely possible the government was involved in 9/11 just to start wars. Wars make some people rich and trillions were spent on the war on terror.


While I don't think 9/11 was an inside job, I do believe 9/11 came about due to the reluctance of starting wars by Democrat Presidents. Going back to Kennedy and his refusal to invade Cuba and Carter and his reluctance to get our hostages back from the Iranians.

The intelligence community gave intel on Osama Bin Laden to Bill Clinton for eight years straight, and he did nothing to stop him or take him out. WTC attacked for the first time in 1993. USS Cole attacked in 2000. Two terror attacks from Radical Islam and not a single response from Clinton. Years after 9/11, Clinton admits that he could have taken out Osama Bin Laden, but that meant that he would have had to have leveled Kandahar, and that he chose not to do that because in his mind (Clinton's), he would have been no better than Bin Laden. Really? No better? Wow.

So here you have Radical Islamists planning to take down the WTC for several years and nothing was ever done to prevent it even though the CIA was warning Clinton of the impending threat.


So in comes President Bush, he gets the same memo, and his first thought is, I just got elected President and the last thing I want to do is start a war....and boom, we get attacked.

[DoctorP]

While I don't think 9/11 was an inside job, I do believe 9/11 came about due to the reluctance of starting wars by Democrat Presidents. Going back to Kennedy and his refusal to invade Cuba and Carter and his reluctance to get our hostages back from the Iranians.

The intelligence community gave intel on Osama Bin Laden to Bill Clinton for eight years straight, and he did nothing to stop him or take him out. WTC attacked for the first time in 1993. USS Cole attacked in 1998. Two terror attacks from Radical Islam and not a single response from Clinton. Years after 9/11, Clinton admits that he could have taken out Osama Bin Laden, but that meant that he would have had to have leveled Kandahar, and that he chose not to do that because in his mind (Clinton's), he would have been no better than Bin Laden. Really? No better? Wow.

So here you have Radical Islamists planning to take down the WTC for several years and nothing was ever done to prevent it even though the CIA was warning Clinton of the impending threat.


So in comes President Bush, he gets the same memo, and his first thought is, I just got elected President and the last thing I want to do is start a war....and boom, we get attacked.

Clinton was anti-war. Bush was pro-CIA. It's a no brainer.

[Rocket]

While I don't think 9/11 was an inside job, I do believe 9/11 came about due to the reluctance of starting wars by Democrat Presidents. Going back to Kennedy and his refusal to invade Cuba and Carter and his reluctance to get our hostages back from the Iranians.

The intelligence community gave intel on Osama Bin Laden to Bill Clinton for eight years straight, and he did nothing to stop him or take him out. WTC attacked for the first time in 1993. USS Cole attacked in 2000. Two terror attacks from Radical Islam and not a single response from Clinton. Years after 9/11, Clinton admits that he could have taken out Osama Bin Laden, but that meant that he would have had to have leveled Kandahar, and that he chose not to do that because in his mind (Clinton's), he would have been no better than Bin Laden. Really? No better? Wow.

So here you have Radical Islamists planning to take down the WTC for several years and nothing was ever done to prevent it even though the CIA was warning Clinton of the impending threat.


So in comes President Bush, he gets the same memo, and his first thought is, I just got elected President and the last thing I want to do is start a war....and boom, we get attacked.

I just can't quite get over the fact there was a drill going on for exactly what was happening on that day. The coincidence is too much. I was never a big Bush fan although I voted for him twice as the lesser of two evils. I do not know if he was involved or not but I do now think people from our government were involved. Given how the FBI and CIA did everything in their power to get Trump throughout his Presidency and also contributed to the 1/6 capitol "attack", I think they are capable of anything including helping to set up 9/11.

[Rocket]

I just can't quite get over the fact there was a drill going on for exactly what was happening on that day. The coincidence is too much. I was never a big Bush fan although I voted for him twice as the lesser of two evils. I do not know if he was involved or not but I do now think people from our government were involved. Given how the FBI and CIA did everything in their power to get Trump throughout his Presidency and also contributed to the 1/6 capitol "attack", I think they are capable of anything including helping to set up 9/11.

Add to this that the so called "Patriot Act" came out of 9/11 which has given the intelligence community unprecedented power. The Patriot Act is the worst legislation in the history of this once great nation. It was used to spy on Trump by Obama and his deepstate cronies. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Patriot Act gave our intelligence cabal (and anyone who wished to abuse it like Obama) absolute power.

[Patrick Chewing]

I just can't quite get over the fact there was a drill going on for exactly what was happening on that day. The coincidence is too much. I was never a big Bush fan although I voted for him twice as the lesser of two evils. I do not know if he was involved or not but I do now think people from our government were involved. Given how the FBI and CIA did everything in their power to get Trump throughout his Presidency and also contributed to the 1/6 capitol "attack", I think they are capable of anything including helping to set up 9/11.

No doubt there is a Deep State and no doubt the FBI is behind false flag operations like the January 6th attack. Trump was so effective in bringing these guys up to the surface that they had to impeach this guy twice and bring up fantastic tales about Russian hookers and oligarchs and all that crap. :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

No doubt there is a Deep State and no doubt the FBI is behind false flag operations like the January 6th attack. Trump was so effective in bringing these guys up to the surface that they had to impeach this guy twice and bring up fantastic tales about Russian hookers and oligarchs and all that crap. :oldlol:

The globalists don't want to deal with a nationalist hothead. They want administrators that will fall in line and let the flow of the system work. Trump made many enemies and look what happened. Trump was not a righteous dude, he was a mega capitalist industrialist that doenst give a shit about you. Amazing that you continue to simp for him but that's your right i guess.

[rawimpact]

The globalists don't want to deal with a nationalist hothead. They want administrators that will fall in line and let the flow of the system work. Trump made many enemies and look what happened. Trump was not a righteous dude, he was a mega capitalist industrialist that doenst give a shit about you. Amazing that you continue to simp for him but that's your right i guess.

Making enemies means you're doing something right. Falling in line and not doing shit (Ex. Biden) means you're just another puppet.

[DoctorP]

Making enemies means you're doing something right. Falling in line and not doing shit (Ex. Biden) means you're just another puppet.

oh, they want puppets. when building a river you want as little interference as possible on the water flow and trump was like a huge dam.

where are you buying your phone from? China.

Did you know more than half of GMs sales go to China?

Globalism is the structure.

[DoctorP]

Making enemies means you're doing something right. Falling in line and not doing shit (Ex. Biden) means you're just another puppet.

What did Trump get accomplished?

[Patrick Chewing]

Doctor P posting every two minutes in like 4 or 5 threads :lol

[DoctorP]

Doctor P posting every two minutes in like 4 or 5 threads :lol

:lol I'm having a good time.

drank a bunch of coffee

[Overdrive]

When a country leaves, you destroy what is not worth taking with you. You dont just gift the country humvees and other military equipment only to be turned against you or your cause.

Did biden learn nothing from the US's history with vietnam?

Sure you destroy the equipment your own soldiers need to defend themselves against an opposing militia.
Leaving it there doesn't do anything. There won't be allies there anymore.


Certainly not this way :oldlol:


This is why administrations surround themselves with the best possible minds, so we don't have **** ups like this.

There's no good way to leave when said militia is trying to takeover unless you stay and kill each last one of them. The problem is they have quite an amount of supporters within the general public. No matter what Afghanistan would've fallen to some extremist muslims.

[Dbrog]

This is an absolutely pathetic showing by the US. It literally cost 1% of the military budget to stay occupying and having security forces in Afghanistan. This wasn't an "endless war." Like others have said, you know it's bad when even CNN is revolting against its own party leaders. They just aired a story from one of their lead female correspondents where she is in one of the recently taken cities and the Taliban let them interview. Taliban leaders said on the issue of women's rights that "women will be given the rights that Islam allows" and this correspondent later that night had to be separated from all men and was told by the women she was staying with that women would only be taught religion as it's "not allowed" by the Taliban to be actually educated. In the same segment, the Taliban was basically showing off all the spoils they took control of...US equipment and vehicles. They also have armed soldiers all over the cities forcing people back to work or punished if they refuse...but of course this is the "reformed Taliban" according to the Taliban. Again...this is a CNN story! Shit is bad gents

[DoctorP]

This is an absolutely pathetic showing by the US. It literally cost 1% of the military budget to stay occupying and having security forces in Afghanistan. This wasn't an "endless war." Like others have said, you know it's bad when even CNN is revolting against its own party leaders. They just aired a story from one of their lead female correspondents where she is in one of the recently taken cities and the Taliban let them interview. Taliban leaders said on the issue of women's rights that "women will be given the rights that Islam allows" and this correspondent later that night had to be separated from all men and was told by the women she was staying with that women would only be taught religion as it's "not allowed" by the Taliban to be actually educated. In the same segment, the Taliban was basically showing off all the spoils they took control of...US equipment and vehicles. They also have armed soldiers all over the cities forcing people back to work or punished if they refuse...but of course this is the "reformed Taliban" according to the Taliban. Again...this is a CNN story! Shit is bad gents

Before Trump, CNN would take issue with the Dems regularly. CNN is still fake news. Nothing has changed.

[Patrick Chewing]

This is an absolutely pathetic showing by the US. It literally cost 1% of the military budget to stay occupying and having security forces in Afghanistan. This wasn't an "endless war." Like others have said, you know it's bad when even CNN is revolting against its own party leaders. They just aired a story from one of their lead female correspondents where she is in one of the recently taken cities and the Taliban let them interview. Taliban leaders said on the issue of women's rights that "women will be given the rights that Islam allows" and this correspondent later that night had to be separated from all men and was told by the women she was staying with that women would only be taught religion as it's "not allowed" by the Taliban to be actually educated. In the same segment, the Taliban was basically showing off all the spoils they took control of...US equipment and vehicles. They also have armed soldiers all over the cities forcing people back to work or punished if they refuse...but of course this is the "reformed Taliban" according to the Taliban. Again...this is a CNN story! Shit is bad gents

I understand what you're saying, but Trump sent out a lot of mean tweets. I mean, like a lot.

[Dbrog]

I don't even understand either of you guys' responses. Are you saying this is some kind of setup by the US?

[DoctorP]

I don't even understand either of you guys' responses. Are you saying this is some kind of setup by the US?

What do you mean?

[SATAN]

I think there is more to all of this and we will watch it play out over the next decade.

[Axe]

I think they were already in shambles even before sleepy joe took over. The mess there that lil donnie left just climaxed recently.

[Phong]

Vietnamese government was pretty much us. They had no standing army of their own when we were fighting the communist vietcong. There was nobody to leave weapons for.:facepalm

You really don't know what you're talking about. The South Vietnamese Army had around a million troops. After the US withdrew from the Vietnam War in 73, the South continued to fight on its own for 2 years and suffered over 100,000 casualties before the Fall of Saigon in 75.

[theman93]

:facepalm

You really don't know what you're talking about. The South Vietnamese Army had around a million troops. After the US withdrew from the Vietnam War in 73, the South continued to fight on its own for 2 years and suffered over 100,000 casualties before the Fall of Saigon in 75.

Please excuse him. He has this tendency of making up falsehoods and claiming them as truth.

[DoctorP]

More darkness.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/16/dead-afghan-landing-gear-kabul-airport-505400

Body of dead Afghan found in landing gear of military jet leaving Kabul airportThe news is the latest disturbing development after chaos erupted at Kabul’s international airport.

[Rocket]

oh, they want puppets. when building a river you want as little interference as possible on the water flow and trump was like a huge dam.

where are you buying your phone from? China.

Did you know more than half of GMs sales go to China?

Globalism is the structure.

You are right. The globalist, aka the Illuminati, are calling the shots.

[rawimpact]

Sure you destroy the equipment your own soldiers need to defend themselves against an opposing militia.
Leaving it there doesn't do anything. There won't be allies there anymore.



There's no good way to leave when said militia is trying to takeover unless you stay and kill each last one of them. The problem is they have quite an amount of supporters within the general public. No matter what Afghanistan would've fallen to some extremist muslims.


what?

you destroy as much of it as you can... and gather all of it and done strike it depending on what it is. I mean we made the same mistake with vietnam leaving over a billion dollars (in 1975) in military items behind. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1975/03/29/archives/arms-left-by-us-loss-by-saigon-force-called-catastrophic-1billion.html

My point is that you learn from the past... destroy what isnt feasible to bring back. You don't let the Taliban take ownership of it only so they can use it against the 'afghan army' or to suppress those residing there. there are videos of the taliban driving around in humvees right now. According to this article, over a billion dollars of equipment just at the airport they seized in kabul (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/taliban-seizes-drones-humvees-mraps-b1902308.html)

[Phong]

what?

you destroy as much of it as you can... and gather all of it and done strike it depending on what it is. I mean we made the same mistake with vietnam leaving over a billion dollars (in 1975) in military items behind. Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1975/03/29/archives/arms-left-by-us-loss-by-saigon-force-called-catastrophic-1billion.htmlA little context here.

The US left Vietnam in 73 and gave the equipment they couldn't repatriate to the ARVN to continue their defense against the NVA. It wasn't left there for the enemy. The article is from March 29th,1975; a month before the Fall of Saigon. The ARVN had already been fighting for two years with that equipment before they were overwhelmed by NVA forces.

In Afghanistan, the US military was still there. The Afghan army just switched allegiances or surrendered without a fight. Remaining US troops should have destroyed that equipment before leaving.

[Jasper]

All he's gonna do is blame Trump.

wrong : This country we had supported for more than 4 years, and trained their military to defend them selves.
When the telli's came in , they ran and threw down their guns.

Why should we defend a weak ass country like your mentality:confusedshrug:

Pull out and let 'em swing.

[ZenMaster]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1427607579740426247?s=19

Kinda crazy watching them wave goodbye like that.

Very graphic aftermath: https://twitter.com/ScorpionKille17/status/1427584689536225286?s=19

[Patrick Chewing]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1427607579740426247?s=19

Kinda crazy watching them wave goodbye like that.

Very graphic aftermath: https://twitter.com/ScorpionKille17/status/1427584689536225286?s=19

Kind of like waving goodbye on the Titanic.

https://i.gifer.com/vct.gif

[DoctorP]

You are right. The globalist, aka the Illuminati, are calling the shots.

Illuminati is a myth.

[DoctorP]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1427607579740426247?s=19

Kinda crazy watching them wave goodbye like that.

Very graphic aftermath: https://twitter.com/ScorpionKille17/status/1427584689536225286?s=19

They really thought they were being wise. Almost like a cocky non-vaxxer before dying of covid complications.

[rawimpact]

Look who was on the plane headed to the US

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17775/production/_119971169_6aa4364b-89e2-4dcd-ab5b-6e05c7445ddf.jpg
source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-58242733

Not many women there. Lots of able bodied men running instead of fighting for their families and home.

[Lakers Legend#32]

So Chew Toy is gonna be the first one calling for Afghan refugees to be allowed in the US?

[Patrick Chewing]

Lakers Legend will take some refugees. They're used to poor conditions and no ventilation.

[paksat]

"we won't..." ok we will


"that didn't..." ok it did

"but just remember..." ok I forgot


idiots that voted him, yes i'm looking at you get your brain cat scanned.

[BurningHammer]

More darkness.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/16/dead-afghan-landing-gear-kabul-airport-505400

Body of dead Afghan found in landing gear of military jet leaving Kabul airport

The news is the latest disturbing development after chaos erupted at Kabul’s international airport.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzjuhrkHisc

[DoctorP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzjuhrkHisc


I have to watch this movie. I was told it's unofficially the last great James Bond film :confusedshrug: