PM Trudeau intimates that you should be FIRED if you don't get the vaccine

[Patrick Chewing]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1427302378181730304?s=20


Where is the 'Progress' in Progressivism?

[n00bie]

**** this cuck. I don't know anything about the Conservative party's leader but I'm still voting for Conservatives just to get Trudeau out of office.

[Long Duck Dong]

Where are we with the latest covid transmission info?

I thought being vaccinated only lessens the chance of you going to the hospital and had no effect on you infecting others which is why mask mandates are being brought back

[n00bie]

Where are we with the latest covid transmission info?

I thought being vaccinated only lessens the chance of you going to the hospital and had no effect on you infecting others which is why mask mandates are being brought back

You still get covid and transmit covid if you are fully vaccinated.

Here's the current covid hospitalizations numbers regarding vaccinated / unvaccinated for Ontario.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdTubb/status/1427271670964891655

[Patrick Chewing]

Where are we with the latest covid transmission info?

I thought being vaccinated only lessens the chance of you going to the hospital and had no effect on you infecting others which is why mask mandates are being brought back

It will be eventually proven that the masks never worked, that the vaccine wasn't that effective, and that ultimately our own body's immune system was and still is the best defense for foreign agents including debilitating viruses.

[DoctorP]

It will be eventually proven that the masks never worked, that the vaccine wasn't that effective, and that ultimately our own body's immune system was and still is the best defense for foreign agents including debilitating viruses.

If we're so lucky. You didn't get the jab?

[Long Duck Dong]

You still get covid and transmit covid if you are fully vaccinated.

Here's the current covid hospitalizations numbers regarding vaccinated / unvaccinated for Ontario.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdTubb/status/1427271670964891655

Trudeau clearly says he's worried about unvaccinated people infecting the vaccinated but whether they are vaccinated or not, does it make difference in passing on the latest varients to someone else?

[Patrick Chewing]

If we're so lucky. You didn't get the jab?

Just got the 1st Pfizer dose.

[DoctorP]

Just got the 1st Pfizer dose.

Smart move. I got the jab but im still avoiding groups of people and wearing masks if im in a group of people. I think ive become a germaphobe. That said, i havent had even a fn cold since covid started. The social distance and masks do work.

[dankok8]

I dislike Trudeau as much as anyone but he's actually right. Vaccines should be either mandatory or vaccine passports should be implemented preventing people from working, traveling, or going out anywhere except to a grocery store or a pharmacy without a vaccine. Unless of course they have a medical document authorizing an exemption that they must carry with them at all times. I'm sure less than 1% of the population can be medically exempted due to severe allergies etc. At this point people that aren't vaccinated are hurting everyone not just themselves. Think of someone driving drunk. Same thing... You're putting not just your own life at risk but others' as well and it shouldn't be tolerated.


Where are we with the latest covid transmission info?

I thought being vaccinated only lessens the chance of you going to the hospital and had no effect on you infecting others which is why mask mandates are being brought back

This is incorrect. You can still get infected with a vaccine and pass it on but odds are reduced by 80%... and mind you this 80% reduction doesn't consider that breakthrough infections are way more common with older people or those with compromised immune systems. Realistically it's probably like a 95% reduction...

Mask mandate is still in effect because as a society we are far from herd immunity. Canada has one of the world's highest vaccination rates and we only have 64% of the total population fully vaccinated. US is at like 51% last time I checked. We need 80% and preferably 90% of the population fully vaccinated for herd immunity and at that point masks aren't needed. There will only be isolated cases here and there but negligible community transmission.

[Stephonit]

Do you believe a company should be able to mandate if its employees get a vaccine or not? If you do then why not for the government in its role as an employer?

[ArbitraryWater]

the anti-faschists are the new faschists

[rawimpact]

Eh... Canada.

I think I get more news regarding Canada here versus anywhere else. Just goes to show how much Americans really care about their dealings.

[tpols]

Just got the 1st Pfizer dose.

Say it ain't so tio. :(

[DoctorP]

Say it ain't so tio. :(

Chewing isn't that dumb. He may be crazy and hardheaded but he aint stupid.

[ArbitraryWater]

Eh... Canada.

I think I get more news regarding Canada here versus anywhere else. Just goes to show how much Americans really care about their dealings.

thx for useless post

[tpols]

I dislike Trudeau as much as anyone but he's actually right. Vaccines should be either mandatory or vaccine passports should be implemented preventing people from working, traveling, or going out anywhere except to a grocery store or a pharmacy without a vaccine. Unless of course they have a medical document authorizing an exemption that they must carry with them at all times. I'm sure less than 1% of the population can be medically exempted due to severe allergies etc. At this point people that aren't vaccinated are hurting everyone not just themselves. Think of someone driving drunk. Same thing... You're putting not just your own life at risk but others' as well and it shouldn't be tolerated.



This is incorrect. You can still get infected with a vaccine and pass it on but odds are reduced by 80%... and mind you this 80% reduction doesn't consider that breakthrough infections are way more common with older people or those with compromised immune systems. Realistically it's probably like a 95% reduction...

Mask mandate is still in effect because as a society we are far from herd immunity. Canada has one of the world's highest vaccination rates and we only have 64% of the total population fully vaccinated. US is at like 51% last time I checked. We need 80% and preferably 90% of the population fully vaccinated for herd immunity and at that point masks aren't needed. There will only be isolated cases here and there but negligible community transmission.

This is a totally asinine position.

So if you don't get an unapproved vaccine you're a murderer?

You're the worst kind of sheep.

The perfect puppet.

[rawimpact]

I dislike Trudeau as much as anyone but he's actually right. Vaccines should be either mandatory or vaccine passports should be implemented preventing people from working, traveling, or going out anywhere except to a grocery store or a pharmacy without a vaccine. Unless of course they have a medical document authorizing an exemption that they must carry with them at all times. I'm sure less than 1% of the population can be medically exempted due to severe allergies etc. At this point people that aren't vaccinated are hurting everyone not just themselves. Think of someone driving drunk. Same thing... You're putting not just your own life at risk but others' as well and it shouldn't be tolerated.



This is incorrect. You can still get infected with a vaccine and pass it on but odds are reduced by 80%... and mind you this 80% reduction doesn't consider that breakthrough infections are way more common with older people or those with compromised immune systems. Realistically it's probably like a 95% reduction...

Mask mandate is still in effect because as a society we are far from herd immunity. Canada has one of the world's highest vaccination rates and we only have 64% of the total population fully vaccinated. US is at like 51% last time I checked. We need 80% and preferably 90% of the population fully vaccinated for herd immunity and at that point masks aren't needed. There will only be isolated cases here and there but negligible community transmission.


How unamerican can you be? gtfo of here...

[tpols]

Chewing isn't that dumb. He may be crazy and hardheaded but he aint stupid.

he probably had to do it for business reasons. New York is a hardcore hotbed for this stuff. Its like the COVID capital of the USA. And the governor fredo just got whacked for being a scumbag. (like they all are)

That's who y'all are listening to.

Most people will sellout to support their lifestyle if its worth it.

[DoctorP]

he probably had to do it for business reasons. New York is a hardcore hotbed for this stuff. Its like the COVID capital of the USA. Most people will sellout to support their lifestyle if its worth it.

well yeah, the city is dense. like chewings head. there are almost no open spaces here where you can get away without someone over your shoulder.

[DoctorP]

he probably had to do it for business reasons. New York is a hardcore hotbed for this stuff. Its like the COVID capital of the USA. And the governor fredo just got whacked for being a scumbag. (like they all are)

That's who y'all are listening to.

Most people will sellout to support their lifestyle if its worth it.

there are no dictators here. who do you listen to?

[tpols]

there are no dictators here. who do you listen to?

I listen to my mind, God, and the truth. Not scumbag politicians or media.

[DoctorP]

I listen to my mind, God, and the truth. Not scumbag politicians or media.

do you think you are the only one? do you think you are cooler than everyone else? you really are not saying anything or doing anything out of the ordinary.

[tpols]

do you think you are the only one? do you think you are cooler than everyone else? you really are not saying anything or doing anything out of the ordinary.

I don't care about ego or being cool. If I did I'd play the game and scam people to get to the top.

[DoctorP]

I don't care about ego or being cool. If I did I'd play the game and scam people to get to the top.

ok, fine. i'll remember you wrote that. :lol

[tpols]

ok, fine. i'll remember you wrote that. :lol

And do what with it later? :lol

[DoctorP]

And do what with it later? :lol

call you out if you are being ridiculous

[tpols]

call you out if you are being ridiculous

You won't have that chance my friend. Anybody who thinks politicians and the backers that control them are being benevolent are in for a rude awakening.

[Manny98]

I dislike Trudeau as much as anyone but he's actually right. Vaccines should be either mandatory or vaccine passports should be implemented preventing people from working, traveling, or going out anywhere except to a grocery store or a pharmacy without a vaccine. Unless of course they have a medical document authorizing an exemption that they must carry with them at all times. I'm sure less than 1% of the population can be medically exempted due to severe allergies etc. At this point people that aren't vaccinated are hurting everyone not just themselves. Think of someone driving drunk. Same thing... You're putting not just your own life at risk but others' as well and it shouldn't be tolerated.



This is incorrect. You can still get infected with a vaccine and pass it on but odds are reduced by 80%... and mind you this 80% reduction doesn't consider that breakthrough infections are way more common with older people or those with compromised immune systems. Realistically it's probably like a 95% reduction...

Mask mandate is still in effect because as a society we are far from herd immunity. Canada has one of the world's highest vaccination rates and we only have 64% of the total population fully vaccinated. US is at like 51% last time I checked. We need 80% and preferably 90% of the population fully vaccinated for herd immunity and at that point masks aren't needed. There will only be isolated cases here and there but negligible community transmission.

I don't get this, isn't the vaccine supposed to be your protection?

So an unvaccinated person shouldn't have any effect whatsoever on someone that's vaccinated as they're already protected right?

The only people that should be dying of Covid at this point are the unvaccinated and that's 100% fine because it's their choice to not get the vaccine and it's a risk that they chose to take

[DoctorP]

You won't have that chance my friend. Anybody who thinks politicians and the backers that control them are being benevolent are in for a rude awakening.

They do their job. I don't think they are out there to not be benevolent, mostly. There are some bad apples out there for sure, though.

[Patrick Chewing]

Say it ain't so tio. :(

Everywhere you go in the city it's "Covid passport" requirements. Just stick with me the thing and let me go on my way.



But when it comes to microchip time, I'm putting up a fight.

[DoctorP]

Everywhere you go in the city it's "Covid passport" requirements. Just stick with me the thing and let me go on my way.



But when it comes to microchip time, I'm putting up a fight.

You won't be able to start your car without the microchip :lol

[dankok8]

I don't get this, isn't the vaccine supposed to be your protection?

So an unvaccinated person shouldn't have any effect whatsoever on someone that's vaccinated as they're already protected right?

The only people that should be dying of Covid at this point are the unvaccinated and that's 100% fine because it's their choice to not get the vaccine and it's a risk that they chose to take

The vaccine doesn't work well on the old and immunocompromised and if you choose not to get vaccinated you can infect those vulnerable groups and kill them. Or you can infect someone young who's fully vaccinated (rare breakthrough infection...) who will be just fine probably asymptomatic but then they could infect someone vulnerable. Or you can infect that small minority of people who legitimately can't get vaccinated because of a history of severe allergies to vaccine ingredients.

[dankok8]

A vaccine doesnt prevent you from spreading pathogens. That's not how vaccines work.

This scientific fact nullifies everything you just said.

This is incorrect.

Most fully vaccinated people have much smaller viral loads meaning that they can't usually infect others.

[FultzNationRISE]

This is incorrect.

Most fully vaccinated people have much smaller viral loads meaning that they can't usually infect others.

This is somewhat true, I retracted my statement because the truth is closer to the middle than what I hastily asserted.

[fsvr54]

I dislike Trudeau as much as anyone but he's actually right. Vaccines should be either mandatory or vaccine passports should be implemented preventing people from working, traveling, or going out anywhere except to a grocery store or a pharmacy without a vaccine. Unless of course they have a medical document authorizing an exemption that they must carry with them at all times. I'm sure less than 1% of the population can be medically exempted due to severe allergies etc. At this point people that aren't vaccinated are hurting everyone not just themselves. Think of someone driving drunk. Same thing... You're putting not just your own life at risk but others' as well and it shouldn't be tolerated.



This is incorrect. You can still get infected with a vaccine and pass it on but odds are reduced by 80%... and mind you this 80% reduction doesn't consider that breakthrough infections are way more common with older people or those with compromised immune systems. Realistically it's probably like a 95% reduction...

Mask mandate is still in effect because as a society we are far from herd immunity. Canada has one of the world's highest vaccination rates and we only have 64% of the total population fully vaccinated. US is at like 51% last time I checked. We need 80% and preferably 90% of the population fully vaccinated for herd immunity and at that point masks aren't needed. There will only be isolated cases here and there but negligible community transmission.

Get phukked fool

[Nanners]

To those in favor of vaccine mandates - where exactly do you draw the line when it comes to forcing people to take medical treatments?

When they decide to mandate the yearly flu vaccine in addition to covid, will you support that? The spanish flu supposedly killed like 100m people after all. How about HPV? How about tetanus? Exactly how many shots will you allow the govt to force you, your family, and your countrymen to take before youve had enough?

Anyone who has spent any time on this board knows that we have a mental health crisis in this country. If were going to do medical mandates why stop with vaccines - do you think the govt should mandate psych meds to people they deem mentally ill? After all it can be argued that, people who suffer depression, anxiety, bipolar, borderline... etc, are a danger to themselves and others, for the safety of everyone shouldnt they be mandated to take blue pills?

[BurningHammer]

**** this cuck. I don't know anything about the Conservative party's leader but I'm still voting for Conservatives just to get Trudeau out of office.

Jagmeet 2021 :D

[PistonsFan#21]

This is incorrect.

Most fully vaccinated people have much smaller viral loads meaning that they can't usually infect others.

Do you have a source for your claims? This is what was posted by the CDC chief director as of August 5th 2021:

''Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

“Our vaccines are working exceptionally well,” Walensky told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.”

That’s why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.

Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected – data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.''

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

[FultzNationRISE]

Do you have a source for your claims? This is what was posted by the CDC chief director as of August 5th 2021:

''Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

“Our vaccines are working exceptionally well,” Walensky told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.”

That’s why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.

Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected – data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.''

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html


Govbots tend to selectively avoid certain posts/points, I suspect this will likely be one that goes unanswered.

[PistonsFan#21]

Govbots tend to selectively avoid certain posts/points, I suspect this will likely be one that goes unanswered.

They tend to be in love with Dr Fauci and his gang so it's hard for them to argue against a quote straight from the horse's mouth.

[imdaman99]

https://i.postimg.cc/8kdV3BCY/33f62829-d278-47b2-91fa-690799be6e58.png

:oldlol: i don't agree with this kinda message but this is in the village which must be liberal overload

[dankok8]

Do you have a source for your claims? This is what was posted by the CDC chief director as of August 5th 2021:

''Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

“Our vaccines are working exceptionally well,” Walensky told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.”

That’s why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.

Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected – data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.''

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

"If they got infected..."

Breakthrough infections are still rare. And again you're ignoring the impact of demographics. Older people and immunocompromised people don't get as much protection from vaccines and account for the vast majority of breakthrough infections. But they aren't the ones moving around and spreading it to hundreds of people the way young people are. That's why it's important to increase vaccine uptake in younger people.

"Delta variant... could have a similar tendency..."

So one variant could (not necessarily does) spread similarly... and again breakthrough cases are rare. Unvaccinated people are much more likely to carry the virus in the first place.

If you said vaccinated people still may spread the virus, I'd agree but to say the vaccines don't prevent spread is incorrect. They don't completely prevent spread but they still greatly minimize it especially from younger individuals with strong immune systems.

Lots of people take words like "could" or "may" and take it to mean "always does".

[n00bie]

To those in favor of vaccine mandates - where exactly do you draw the line when it comes to forcing people to take medical treatments?

When they decide to mandate the yearly flu vaccine in addition to covid, will you support that? The spanish flu supposedly killed like 100m people after all. How about HPV? How about tetanus? Exactly how many shots will you allow the govt to force you, your family, and your countrymen to take before youve had enough?

Anyone who has spent any time on this board knows that we have a mental health crisis in this country. If were going to do medical mandates why stop with vaccines - do you think the govt should mandate psych meds to people they deem mentally ill? After all it can be argued that, people who suffer depression, anxiety, bipolar, borderline... etc, are a danger to themselves and others, for the safety of everyone shouldnt they be mandated to take blue pills?

True, you probably do need these blue pills.

[Manny98]

The vaccine doesn't work well on the old and immunocompromised and if you choose not to get vaccinated you can infect those vulnerable groups and kill them. Or you can infect someone young who's fully vaccinated (rare breakthrough infection...) who will be just fine probably asymptomatic but then they could infect someone vulnerable. Or you can infect that small minority of people who legitimately can't get vaccinated because of a history of severe allergies to vaccine ingredients.
So the vaccine doesn't even work properly on the main group it's supposed to work on?

Yet you people want something that has proven not to even work effectively and hasn't even been properly tested to be mandated?

Yikes

[dankok8]

So the vaccine doesn't even work properly on the main group it's supposed to work on?

Yet you people want something that has proven not to even work effectively and hasn't even been properly tested to be mandated?

Yikes

It's not that it doesn't work properly. It's just that old people have poor health in general because of a weakened immune system. The vaccine doesn't work as well for them but it still works. Like I said, breakthrough infections in young people are very rare.

People worried about the vaccine being thoroughly tested for safety don't understand how vaccines work. A vaccine simply contains an antigen or in case of mRNA vaccines the instruction for the body to make the antigen. An antigen is a protein from the virus that makes your body recognize it as a foreign object and within 2-3 weeks build antibodies against it so when the real virus infects you, the antibodies are already there to swiftly destroy the virus. As opposed to 2-3 weeks after infection by which time you can already be severely ill or die. Since the antigen is just a protein and not a live virus, it cannot give you COVID. Of course, the vaccine also contains adjuvants and fillers that can cause severe allergies in a very small number of people but those allergens aren't unique to the COVID vaccine and are found in all vaccines including all the mandatory ones people have to get as kids to go to school. If you have a history of severe allergies obviously don't get the COVID vaccine before speaking to a doctor. But probably less than 1% of the population shouldn't get it for those reasons and have a valid exemption.

Again the way vaccines in general work (not just the COVID vaccine) makes the safety talk moot. Vaccines are very safe for 99+% of people. Period.

As for vaccine efficacy, we can already see it. The UK has a similar caseload as the last wave. They are averaging under 100 deaths per day. Last wave they were at 1200+ deaths per day. Admittedly some of the decrease is because of more younger people getting sick in this wave but the mortality rate even correcting for age is likely still 80% to 90% lower even with the Delta variant now. And there's also the aspect that the UK economy is fully open now giving much more chance of spread compared to the last wave which occurred under lockdown. If the economy was fully open during the 3rd wave cases and therefore deaths might have been many times higher.

[PistonsFan#21]

"If they got infected..."

Breakthrough infections are still rare. And again you're ignoring the impact of demographics. Older people and immunocompromised people don't get as much protection from vaccines and account for the vast majority of breakthrough infections. But they aren't the ones moving around and spreading it to hundreds of people the way young people are. That's why it's important to increase vaccine uptake in younger people.

"Delta variant... could have a similar tendency..."

So one variant could (not necessarily does) spread similarly... and again breakthrough cases are rare. Unvaccinated people are much more likely to carry the virus in the first place.

If you said vaccinated people still may spread the virus, I'd agree but to say the vaccines don't prevent spread is incorrect. They don't completely prevent spread but they still greatly minimize it especially from younger individuals with strong immune systems.

Lots of people take words like "could" or "may" and take it to mean "always does".

What is your definition of rare?

Breakthrough cases in Israel, the country with the fastest vaccine rollout and one of the highest vaccination rate:
What is clear is that “breakthrough” cases are not the rare events the term implies. As of 15 August, 514 Israelis were hospitalized with severe or critical COVID-19, a 31% increase from just 4 days earlier. Of the 514, 59% were fully vaccinated. Of the vaccinated, 87% were 60 or older. “There are so many breakthrough infections that they dominate and most of the hospitalized patients are actually vaccinated,” says Uri Shalit, a bioinformatician at the Israel Institute of Technology (Technion) who has consulted on COVID-19 for the government. “One of the big stories from Israel [is]: ‘Vaccines work, but not well enough.’”
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

Even in the USA the CDC conveniently stopped keeping track of all Covid breakthrough cases when the Delta variant started taking over. As of May 1st, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause.


At the time, the agency had identified only 10,262 cases across the U.S. where a fully vaccinated person had tested positive for Covid. Most people who got infected after vaccination showed few symptoms, and appeared to be at low risk of infecting others.

But in the months since, the number of vaccine breakthrough cases has grown, as has the risk that they present. And while the CDC has stopped tracking such cases, many states have not. Bloomberg gathered data from 35 states and identified 111,748 vaccine breakthrough cases through the end of July, more than 10 times the CDCÂ’s end-of-April tally.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-30/cdc-scaled-back-hunt-for-breakthrough-cases-just-as-the-delta-variant-grew?sref=r4AzvICB

[dankok8]

What is your definition of rare?

Breakthrough cases in Israel, the country with the fastest vaccine rollout and one of the highest vaccination rate:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

Even in the USA the CDC conveniently stopped keeping track of all Covid breakthrough cases when the Delta variant started taking over. As of May 1st, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-30/cdc-scaled-back-hunt-for-breakthrough-cases-just-as-the-delta-variant-grew?sref=r4AzvICB

From the Bloomberg article you posted:

New York state’s Department of Health has identified 11,025 vaccine breakthrough cases as of July 19. The proportion of breakthrough cases remains tiny — about 0.18% of vaccinated people.

Here is another link: https://www.livescience.com/what-are-breakthrough-covid-infections.html

An internal CDC presentation that was leaked estimated the rate of symptomatic breakthrough infections to be about 35,000 per week among 162 million fully vaccinated people in the U.S., as of July 24, Live Science previously reported. In the week leading up to July 24, around 384,000 people tested positive for COVID-19, which would suggest that at that time, less than 10% of new cases were breakthrough infections.

Less than 10% of new cases are fully vaccinated even though vaccinated individuals are around 50% of the US population.

And more importantly from the same article:

One thing that is clear is that severe breakthrough infections are very rare: As of Aug. 2, a little less than 0.005%, or 1 in 20,000 fully vaccinated people in the U.S., have gotten breakthrough infections severe enough to lead to hospitalization or death. Moreover, just 7 in 1 million fully vaccinated people have died as a result of COVID-19, according to data the CDC has collected from state and local health departments. Those data show unequivocally that the best way to protect yourself from the coronavirus is to get vaccinated.

[Axe]

No vaccination, no freedom bitches!