View Full Version : Nerlens Noel files lawsuit against Rich Paul
AirBonner
08-24-2021, 11:59 PM
https://www.basketballnews.com/stories/nerlens-noel-files-lawsuit-against-klutch-sports-agent-rich-paul
According to the article, Noel alleges that Paul misled and neglected him when he was a client of Klutch Sports. Before even developing an official partnership, Paul told Noel in 2017 — at a Ben Simmons birthday party, no less — that Noel "was a 100 million dollar man," which led to Noel not only leaving then-agent Happy Walters and signing with Paul, but also turning down a 4-year, $70 million offer from the Dallas Mavericks to accept a qualifying offer. When Noel battled injuries the following season, his perceived value cratered. But according to the accusations, Paul never tried to redeem his client.
Nerlens coming back for that cash
:banana::applause::pimp:
Vino24
08-25-2021, 12:10 AM
Coming for that cash boii
iamgine
08-25-2021, 12:16 AM
Wait he was told he was worth $100M, then turned down $70M, but then got injured and no one was willing to pay him anything. How is all this Rich Paul's fault?
Thenameless
08-25-2021, 01:13 AM
Wait he was told he was worth $100M, then turned down $70M, but then got injured and no one was willing to pay him anything. How is all this Rich Paul's fault?
It obviously isn't. Noel is just plain dumb.
Spurs m8
08-25-2021, 01:30 AM
Rich Paul is a fvcking rat, regardless
Connelly
08-25-2021, 02:32 AM
Knicks center Nerlens Noel filed a lawsuit on Monday against Rich Paul—a prominent NBA agent for Klutch Sports—accusing him of violating promises as well as causing the big man to miss out on nearly $58 million in lost contract money
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Sulico
08-25-2021, 03:02 AM
Wait he was told he was worth $100M, then turned down $70M, but then got injured and no one was willing to pay him anything. How is all this Rich Paul's fault?
Yeah, it was partly Rich Paul's fault.
His job is to give right advices to his clients. He gave horribly wrong advice.
HylianNightmare
08-25-2021, 03:13 AM
I remember him, Joel and Okafor were such strange trio on paper
bladefd
08-25-2021, 03:21 AM
Wait he was told he was worth $100M, then turned down $70M, but then got injured and no one was willing to pay him anything. How is all this Rich Paul's fault?
I don't see Noel winning the case in court. He doesn't really have much of an argument. I bet the agent's contract will absolve Rich Paul on technicalities when it comes to liability.
bullettooth
08-25-2021, 03:21 AM
Rich Paul is a fvcking rat, regardless
Everyone in LeBron's entourage is a fvcking rat.
iamgine
08-25-2021, 04:17 AM
Yeah, it was partly Rich Paul's fault.
His job is to give right advices to his clients. He gave horribly wrong advice.
It could be the right advice if Noel didn't get injured so we can't say it's wrong.
Spurs m8
08-25-2021, 05:34 AM
Everyone in LeBron's entourage is a fvcking rat.
True
Rats hang with rats
Cyrus334
08-25-2021, 07:14 AM
http://sportsagentblog.com/2021/08/24/nerlens-noel-blasts-nba-agent-rich-paul-in-new-lawsuit/
Noel allegedly learned from Brett Brown, who was coaching the Philadelphia 76ers at the time, that the 76ers front office had been trying to contact Paul to discuss a potential deal and that Paul refused to respond. This was purportedly the case with other team representatives who were reaching out as well.
This seems to be the core of the issue here.
Sulico
08-25-2021, 07:43 AM
It could be the right advice if Noel didn't get injured so we can't say it's wrong.
Huh? It could be right so it's not wrong? What the hell is this? Anything COULD be right...
iamgine
08-25-2021, 08:50 AM
Huh? It could be right so it's not wrong? What the hell is this? Anything COULD be right...
Exactly, so we can't say it's wrong.
8Ball
08-25-2021, 09:17 AM
Wait he was told he was worth $100M, then turned down $70M, but then got injured and no one was willing to pay him anything. How is all this Rich Paul's fault?
Yeah, not only is he gonna lose the suit, he gonna have to hand over 200k$ to rich paul plus attorney fees.
imdaman99
08-25-2021, 09:54 AM
I know he got injured but he was never a $100 million guy. He's like a homeless man's Gobert with hands of stone. He's not even a $70 million guy, but who knows what that guy is nowadays. He can't do anything on offense and injured often. Sorry dude, you took bad advice but you should not have bet on yourself to stay healthy.
That being said, he has value on the Knicks :banana: because they got an even more injury prone center as the starter :roll:
Mask the Embiid
08-25-2021, 10:13 AM
The way the league was trending at that time he was worth more than that. Everyone was looking for a center that could guard PnR
BigKobeFan
08-25-2021, 11:00 AM
When bran retires, rich paul will have absolutely no pull
JohnMax
08-25-2021, 11:24 AM
Here's another detailed account in case you want to add it to the OP:
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/08/24/nerlens-noel-suing-agent-rich-paul/
bison
08-25-2021, 11:28 AM
Never buy into lebrons ‘just a kid from Akron’ narrative. Everyone in lebrons entourage, including lebron, is a phony ass niqqa who will freeze you out the minute you stop being profitable to them. Lebron doesn’t have friends, only assets.
Ryoka Narusawa
08-25-2021, 11:32 AM
Rich Paul is a fvcking rat, regardless
:roll:
FKAri
08-25-2021, 12:46 PM
Never buy into lebrons ‘just a kid from Akron’ narrative. Everyone in lebrons entourage, including lebron, is a phony ass niqqa who will freeze you out the minute you stop being profitable to them. Lebron doesn’t have friends, only assets.
Guys like Rich Paul are his friends. Everyone else is an asset. That's just how life is when you're a gangster.
Mr. Woke
08-26-2021, 07:21 AM
Never buy into lebrons ‘just a kid from Akron’ narrative. Everyone in lebrons entourage, including lebron, is a phony ass niqqa who will freeze you out the minute you stop being profitable to them. Lebron doesn’t have friends, only assets.
Quit projecting your insecurities onto LeBron.
Mr. Woke
08-26-2021, 07:22 AM
It's hilarious how so many people are automatically siding with Noel. Nothing has been proven yet.
Rich Paul is great at triggering racist pinheads.
Not a good look for Rich. M.Harrell took less than his worth and look at him now.
8Ball
08-26-2021, 08:41 AM
Not a good look for Rich. M.Harrell took less than his worth and look at him now.
Rich told him at a party Noel worth more. Like every single agent would say.
Noel turned down a larger contract while under another agent.
Signed with Rich and got injured and missed games.
This case goes nowhere.
Rich told him at a party Noel worth more. Like every single agent would say.
Noel turned down a larger contract while under another agent.
Signed with Rich and got injured and missed games.
This case goes nowhere.
No he turned down the deal from rich Paul’s advice. Noel also alleges there was a deal from Okc that Rich turned down worth a lot of money (8-0
10mil per). Then he never contacted Noel about the sixers and how he ignored their calls. Only found out thru Brett Brown.
You should probably read more from Noel side than just forming a conclusion that’s not entirely accurate. Him getting injured has zero relevance to the lawsuit. It has to do with deals not being presented to Noel so he can decide.
Rich Paul has a lot of guys taking less on this “promise” you’ll get paid soon just wait.
Obviously rich Paul side of things hasn’t been revealed. So we shall see. But to open and shut a case like you did is silly. And you know it.
8Ball
08-26-2021, 12:40 PM
Noel turned down the deal while he was under another agent. He is suing Rich Paul for that money lost. The money that he turned down while still signed under another agent.
That's the key point. Rich Paul did not represent him when he turned down the deal. Rich Paul cannot be responsible for money lost when Noel turned down the deal himself while being represented by another agent.
This lawsuit goes nowhere.
FultzNationRISE
08-26-2021, 01:08 PM
Noel turned down the deal while he was under another agent. He is suing Rich Paul for that money lost. The money that he turned down while still signed under another agent.
That's the key point. Rich Paul did not represent him when he turned down the deal. Rich Paul cannot be responsible for money lost when Noel turned down the deal himself while being represented by another agent.
This lawsuit goes nowhere.
Noel's reps must know this, most likely the whole purpose here is to induce a settlement. Subpoena as much professionally damaging information about Paul as they can, hoping he agrees to drop his own suit against Noel to keep everything out of the open. I wouldnt be surprised if that's exactly what happens.
Remember, Kate Faber got herself a nice juicy settlement even though Kobe... "was innocent." :rolleyes:
Noel turned down the deal while he was under another agent. He is suing Rich Paul for that money lost. The money that he turned down while still signed under another agent.
That's the key point. Rich Paul did not represent him when he turned down the deal. Rich Paul cannot be responsible for money lost when Noel turned down the deal himself while being represented by another agent.
This lawsuit goes nowhere.
You’re misinformed. He turned down the deal via rich Paul’s advice saying he was worth more. And how Rich would get him the max. Just take the 1yr deal. Noel then fired his agent and signed with Rich Paul. From there it all went downhill. Allegedly a false rumor was put out there Noel was signing a 3yr deal with OKC which backed teams away. Sixers among other teams tried to sign Noel and Rich Paul didn’t respond to any of them. Noel kept signing small deals since then until he bounced.
He has a lawsuit. Rich Paul left money on the table and didn’t consult with his client when teams were actively pursuing him to sign Noel to a long term deals.
8Ball
08-26-2021, 10:32 PM
Noel made accusation Rich Paul didn't respond to the phone. We need to see evidence during discovery to prove this.
With respects to the elephant, the Dallas deal turned down, there is no ground to stand here legally. Noel is signed with another agent, Noel refused the deal while signed with that agent. It ends there.
FultzNationRISE
08-27-2021, 12:04 AM
You’re misinformed. He turned down the deal via rich Paul’s advice saying he was worth more. And how Rich would get him the max. Just take the 1yr deal. Noel then fired his agent and signed with Rich Paul. From there it all went downhill. Allegedly a false rumor was put out there Noel was signing a 3yr deal with OKC which backed teams away. Sixers among other teams tried to sign Noel and Rich Paul didnÂ’t respond to any of them. Noel kept signing small deals since then until he bounced.
He has a lawsuit. Rich Paul left money on the table and didnÂ’t consult with his client when teams were actively pursuing him to sign Noel to a long term deals.
Yeah but a sales pitch at a birthday party doesnt establish an agent-client relationship. You cant sue a guy for giving you bad career advice over the sound of blaring music while youre getting lapdances. As far as ill-conceived rumors and not answering phone calls once Noel signed with him, RP will likely have evidence these are his standard tactics he’s done with many clients, and some of them landed big deals. Obviously it worked terribly this time, but it seems like a stretch to claim he violated any legal or civil obligations. Negotiations are a gamble. You choose your agent with that in mind, but the player always has the final say. From what Ive heard of Noel it seems likely he did not engage himself at all in the process or do his own homework, rather putting the whole thing in RP’s hands. RP miscalculated and lost, but thats the way it goes.
Ill be surprised if he gets anything more than a modest settlement based on the evidence available, but you never know. Juries do tend to be more sympathetic to plaintiffs, altho this case is almost certain to be thrown out or settled. Not worth the expense for either of them to drag it to the jury box.
iamgine
08-27-2021, 12:41 AM
Even if the advice was made under agent-client relationship, it was clearly made with the common sense understanding that Noel doesn't get seriously injured and at least maintain or better his performance.
Noel got seriously injured and his performance dropped significantly.
baudkarma
08-27-2021, 01:15 AM
Noel turned down the deal while he was under another agent. He is suing Rich Paul for that money lost. The money that he turned down while still signed under another agent.
That's the key point. Rich Paul did not represent him when he turned down the deal. Rich Paul cannot be responsible for money lost when Noel turned down the deal himself while being represented by another agent.
This lawsuit goes nowhere.
Gah. The real question isn't which agent Noel was signed with, but which agent whose advice he was listening to. Agents only advise, they cannot compel a player to accept a deal. "Agents work for the player", which is true but something that a lot of players seem to forget. Who advised Noel to turn that deal, his current agent or Rich Paul?
It would kind of be important to know what Noels current agent at the time advised him to do. Suppose that agent said "Oh hell yeah, sign that deal, you'll be set for life!" but Noel decided to hold out for more money because Paul told him he could make even more, if only he'd sign on Paul as his agent. What did that former agent do wrong? He gave the best advice that he could, his client chose to ignore it.
bullettooth
08-27-2021, 11:23 AM
Why is everything that surrounds LeBron so toxic?
97 bulls
08-27-2021, 12:59 PM
I don't see how you guys are missing this. If Noel can prove that teams were interested in signing him and Paul as his agent ignored them, then Noel definitely has a case. The question is why did Paul ignore those teams?
FultzNationRISE
08-27-2021, 01:30 PM
I don't see how you guys are missing this. If Noel can prove that teams were interested in signing him and Paul as his agent ignored them, then Noel definitely has a case. The question is why did Paul ignore those teams?
Presumably as some sort of ill conceived bargaining tactic. They made the decision to play out the season and enter free agency. Thered be no reason to take calls on deals before then.
Agents dont get paid up front. Rich Paul has every reason in the world to get Noel a big deal. Paul himself lost money here just like Nerlens. In hindsight they’d have been better off taking the Dallas deal. This is why most agents dont advise the average player to take one year deals. In this case they swung for a homer and struck out. That sucks obviously but isnt negligence. Just bad decision making.
Noel obviously accepted the plan to play out the season and then look for deals. If he wasnt comfortable with that, he could have/would have pressed Paul to take something before then. He was pretty clearly aware of the strategy. This is no different then Giannis or Lebron stating their intention to enter free agency first before negotiating even with their current team. Why would Paul take calls about offers before Noel plays the breakout season theyre both counting on?? The plan was to wait and cash in big later. It just didnt work.
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