The vaccine Pfizer is distributing is not FDA approved

[theman93]

Essentially, Pfizer has 2 different vaccines that can be used interchangeably, but only one is FDA approved:

1) The un-licensed "Pfizer-BioNTech" vaccine that is still under EUA and free from liability.

2) The licensed "Comirnaty" vaccine that is FDA approved and not free from liability.

Due to this, Pfizer is unlikely to allow any Americans to take the FDA approved Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for it. On top of that, there is also an abundant supply of the "Pfizer-BioNTech" vaccine but a low supply of the Comirnaty vaccine, so nobody is taking the FDA approved Comirnaty vaccine even though they probably think they are because of hearing over and over again through social/mainstream media that Pfizer's vaccine is approved.

If the vial does not say "Comirnaty" on it's label then the individual is not receiving the licensed product.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/

[oldtimer28]

Essentially, Pfizer has 2 different vaccines that can be used interchangeably, but only one is FDA approved:

1) The un-licensed "Pfizer-BioNTech" vaccine that is still under EUA and free from liability.

2) The licensed "Comirnaty" vaccine that is FDA approved and not free from liability.

Due to this, Pfizer is unlikely to allow any Americans to take the FDA approved Comirnaty vaccine until it can somehow arrange immunity for it. On top of that, there is also an abundant supply of the "Pfizer-BioNTech" vaccine but a low supply of the Comirnaty vaccine, so nobody is taking the FDA approved Comirnaty vaccine even though they probably think they are because of hearing over and over again through social/mainstream media that Pfizer's vaccine is approved.

If the vial does not say "Comirnaty" on it's label then the individual is not receiving the licensed product.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/


Thanks read something similar but no media is reporting this yet. How can we know what is true?

[theman93]

Thanks read something similar but no media is reporting this yet. How can we know what is true?

Additional info on it here: https://beckernews.com/33-new-docs-41120/

And official doc here: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

[jstern]

I knew something like that was up when DoctorP made his thread, but I was confused since all the news outlets were reporting that it was approved. So it wasn't computing.

[bladefd]

It was FDA approved 2 days ago. They will not destroy every vaccine they manufactured a month ago just because the container has an older label from 2 days ago.

[theman93]

It was FDA approved 2 days ago. They will not destroy every vaccine they manufactured a month ago just because the container has an older label from 2 days ago.

The Pfizer BNT162B2 was not approved 2 days ago. The Comirnaty was, which is what people think they are taking but aren't and won't be for some time. Why is that important? Liability and mandates.

[oldtimer28]

Additional info on it here: https://beckernews.com/33-new-docs-41120/

And official doc here: https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

Thanks - great posts by you all round.

[theman93]

Thanks - great posts by you all round.

:cheers:

[Axe]

Thanks - great posts by you all round.
:oldlol:

[theman93]

Axe and highwhey adding nothing intellectual to the conversation per the usual.

[DoctorP]

I knew something like that was up when DoctorP made his thread, but I was confused since all the news outlets were reporting that it was approved. So it wasn't computing.


https://media4.giphy.com/media/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif

[Axe]

Axe and highwhey adding nothing intellectual to the conversation per the usual.
As if you guys are so intellectual at discussing stuff. :confusedshrug:

[theman93]

"So, the little trick that they've done here is they have issued two separate letters for two separate vaccines. The Pfizer vaccine, which is what is currently available, is still under Emergency Use Authorization and it still has the liability shield. Once again, the mainstream media has lied to you...The product that's licensed is the BioNTech product which is substantially similar but not necessarily identical. It's called Comerdity and...it's not yet available. They haven't started manufacturing it or labeling it and that's the one that the liability waiver will no longer apply to. So the one that's actually licensed is not yet available." — Dr. Robert Malone

https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1430714128033849351?s=20

[Mr. Woke]

Why are conservatards so dishonest and anti-science?

Anti-vaxxers are regressive nut jobs.

[tpols]

So Pfizer made 2 vaccines and the one that was approved is the one they aren't handing out? And then the media is framing it like it is?

Pure corruption and deciet right before our eyes and the sheep STILL deny it.

Amazing.

[BurningHammer]

The Pfizer BNT162B2 was not approved 2 days ago. The Comirnaty was, which is what people think they are taking but aren't and won't be for some time. Why is that important? Liability and mandates.

"BNT162b2" (code name during development and testing periods), "Comirnaty" (brand name), and "Pfizer–BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine" (name on American distributed packaging) all refer to the same vaccine.

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/das-bag/aktuell/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-81761.html

https://www.comirnatyglobal.com/

[theman93]

"BNT162b2" (code name during development and testing periods), "Comirnaty" (brand name), and "Pfizer–BioNTech COVID‑19 Vaccine" (name on American distributed packaging) all refer to the same vaccine.

https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/das-bag/aktuell/medienmitteilungen.msg-id-81761.html

https://www.comirnatyglobal.com/

As far as what is in them yes, but only the Comirnaty is shielded from liability and it is not being distributed.

The Pfizer-BioNtech is not shielded from liability and has been/continues to be distributed.

When the news broke that Pfizer received FDA approval, which of the 2 do you think people thought they were taking?

[Patrick Chewing]

Last couple of days I've been seeing double. Saturday marks two weeks since I took the first Pfizer jab.

[RRR3]

Last couple of days I've been seeing double. Saturday marks two weeks since I took the first Pfizer jab.
Damn good for you. We told you it’s not that bad.

[bladefd]

I asked a friend who is a paralegal in a law firm.

I was told if the vaccine has the exact same ingredients and made by the same company, the company would be liable beginning the day of the fda approval regardless of what the bottle design looks like. The approval isn't for the bottle or the bottle design but rather for the substance inside that is manufactured by the company. If Pfizer argues in court that they aren't liable because of the bottle's design, they would not win the argument. As long as the substance is exactly what was approved. Now if the substance is different then they would be in much bigger trouble than simply liability issue.

Off-label usage would probably void the liability though afaik (this is what I read elsewhere).. Such as using it in children under 16 or another usage that hasn't been approved in writing..

[Off the Court]

OP's fake news source is a biased site against vaccines of every kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense

[theman93]

OP's fake news source is a biased site against vaccines of every kind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense

https://i.ibb.co/Mnk7q1g/pfizer.png

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

Maybe read the FDA letter for yourself then and prove where the article has it wrong?

[Axe]

https://i.ibb.co/Mnk7q1g/pfizer.png

https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

Maybe read the FDA letter for yourself then and prove where the article has it wrong?
Ofc you will often cherry pick the one that fits your narrative.

[theman93]

Ofc you will often cherry pick the one that fits your narrative.

Go ahead and point to where the article has it wrong. I’ll wait.

[JohnnySic]

The shitshow in Afghanistan has taken the vaccine out of the headlines for a short bit. Hopefully it induces the pushers to ease up. But I doubt that it will.

[Axe]

Last couple of days I've been seeing double. Saturday marks two weeks since I took the first Pfizer jab.
You need ivermectin too so there won't be any parasites lurking on your bearded testicles.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Last couple of days I've been seeing double. Saturday marks two weeks since I took the first Pfizer jab.

How dare you defy the cult of MAGA.

[PistonsFan#21]

Ofc you will often cherry pick the one that fits your narrative.

I haven't seen you provide any inellectual info to any debate other than attacking the messenger instead of debating the message itself. What part of what is said do you agree or disagree with?

[PistonsFan#21]

I asked a friend who is a paralegal in a law firm.

I was told if the vaccine has the exact same ingredients and made by the same company, the company would be liable beginning the day of the fda approval regardless of what the bottle design looks like. The approval isn't for the bottle or the bottle design but rather for the substance inside that is manufactured by the company. If Pfizer argues in court that they aren't liable because of the bottle's design, they would not win the argument. As long as the substance is exactly what was approved. Now if the substance is different then they would be in much bigger trouble than simply liability issue.

Off-label usage would probably void the liability though afaik (this is what I read elsewhere).. Such as using it in children under 16 or another usage that hasn't been approved in writing..

According to the FDA the 2 products are legally distinct with certain differences. I'm not sure if they disclosed what the differences are but i would be willing to bet that it has more to do than the label on the bottle.

[bladefd]

According to the FDA the 2 products are legally distinct with certain differences. I'm not sure if they disclosed what the differences are but i would be willing to bet that it has more to do than the label on the bottle.

I have not heard of any actual substance differences in formulation between the vaccine being manufactured a week ago under emergency authorization to Monday evening under official authorization.

[PistonsFan#21]

I have not heard of any actual substance differences in formulation between the vaccine being manufactured a week ago under emergency authorization to Monday evening under official authorization.

I am not saying there is an actual susbtance difference. I was just wondering about the FDA themselves claiming that the 2 vaccines are LEGALLY distintct with certain differences. Wouldn't that be the protection they need from any liability in court?

[bladefd]

I am not saying there is an actual susbtance difference. I was just wondering about the FDA themselves claiming that the 2 vaccines are LEGALLY distintct with certain differences. Wouldn't that be the protection they need from any liability in court?

I don't think the fda would approve a substance different from the one from the trial that began last summer. Pfizer cited research data from that vaccine studies, and that is what the fda used to officially authorize the vaccine. If this vaccine had substance differences then that previous research data would all be void.

[Mr. Woke]

Last couple of days I've been seeing double. Saturday marks two weeks since I took the first Pfizer jab.

Lol, that's because your obesity is interfering with the Pfizer shot. You wouldn't be seeing double if you were a healthy weight.

[Nanners]

Considering that the "long term" trials on the Pfizer shot wont be completed until 2023 (should be much longer), and considering that the BioNTech version of the shot is not available in the US and has not participated in any US clinical trials... this is beyond laughable.

[Lakers Legend#32]

MAGATS: Gun, Truck, Patriot, Eagle, Freedom.

Also MAGATS: Mask hurt facey.

[Nanners]

If your employer is gonna try to force you to take the shot because its "FDA approved", just tell them "ok, I'm happy to take the FDA approved comirnaty shot if you can tell me where to get it"