BREAKING: Terrorist bombing outside Kabul airport

[Patrick Chewing]

Pentagon confirms: https://twitter.com/PentagonPresSec


Multiple casualties including Americans and possibly American soldiers.

[theman93]

Also another bombing at a hotel Americans were gathering at for rescue operations.

Also hearing the evacuation is over and the gates at the airport are being weld shut according to Sam Faddis on Bannon War Room.

[Patrick Chewing]

Video of bombing: https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1430904992261570570?s=20


Two bombs actually.

[theman93]

4 US service members reportedly dead from the bombings.



Video of bombing: https://twitter.com/gregkellyusa/status/1430904992261570570?s=20


Two bombs actually.

Tweet was deleted?

[Patrick Chewing]

Bombing: https://twitter.com/h59851687/status/1430920602525716481?s=20


Aftermath: https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1430906781232820225?s=20





https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2021012/rs_634x1024-210112170004-634-joe-biden-3-mp.jpg

[theman93]

Bombing: https://twitter.com/h59851687/status/1430920602525716481?s=20


Aftermath: https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1430906781232820225?s=20





https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2021012/rs_634x1024-210112170004-634-joe-biden-3-mp.jpg

Yeah...

This is really bad.

Is anyone still willing to defend this evacuation plan?

[theman93]

https://i.ibb.co/KrbDv43/bidenfail.png

[Patrick Chewing]

americans invade the middle east, bomb innocent children

americans when the survivors of drone strikes grow up to join the taliban:


Then you have idiots like this guy who are brainwashed. :facepalm

[Hey Yo]

Multiple Marines have been wounded from one of the blasts by suicide bomber.

[bladefd]

^ to the few idiots above

There wasn't a single suicide bomb in all the 4 years that the previous administration was in office. These countries were so peaceful and progressive with 0 terrorist attacks or US deaths in the 4 years by the bombs of terrorists. My goodness, first terrorist attack since Obama's last day in office! Biden is so bad!!

Someone impeach Biden fast and bring back Trump on September 1 for life. There will never be another attack on earth with our lord and savior Donny Christ!

[Patrick Chewing]

^ to the few idiots above

There wasn't a single suicide bomb in all the 4 years that the previous administration was in office. These countries were so peaceful and progressive with 0 terrorist attacks or US deaths in the 4 years by the bombs of terrorists. My goodness, first terrorist attack since Obama's last day in office! Biden is so bad!!

Someone impeach Biden fast and bring back Trump on September 1 for life. There will never be another attack on earth with our lord and savior Donny Christ!

Are you OK??

[theman93]

^ to the few idiots above

There wasn't a single suicide bomb in all the 4 years that the previous administration was in office. These countries were so peaceful and progressive with 0 terrorist attacks or US deaths in the 4 years by the bombs of terrorists. My goodness, first terrorist attack since Obama's last day in office! Biden is so bad!!

Someone impeach Biden fast and bring back Trump on September 1 for life. There will never be another attack on earth with our lord and savior Donny Christ!

Which suicide bombing in the past 4 years put this many American civilian lives at risk?

[bladefd]

Anyways, this was exactly why we have to leave fast. Get our people out and get the heck out of that hell. You don't know who is a terrorist and who is a civilian. We should not be waging wars in countries like those except as a last resort.

[Patrick Chewing]

Anyways, this was exactly why we have to leave fast. Get our people out and get the heck out of that hell. You don't know who is a terrorist and who is a civilian. We should not be waging wars in countries like those except as a last resort.

I love how you brush this under the rug, but if the roles were reversed and Trump was still President, you would be excoriating him. You're a hypocrite.


This terrorist attack doesn't happen if Biden doesn't pull out the way he did. Biden has been wrong on all fronts, and there are plenty of Democrats who are echoing the same sentiment. Your lack of criticism towards the way Biden handled this is quite evident and it makes you look foolish.

[Hey Yo]

^ to the few idiots above

There wasn't a single suicide bomb in all the 4 years that the previous administration was in office. These countries were so peaceful and progressive with 0 terrorist attacks or US deaths in the 4 years by the bombs of terrorists. My goodness, first terrorist attack since Obama's last day in office! Biden is so bad!!

Someone impeach Biden fast and bring back Trump on September 1 for life. There will never be another attack on earth with our lord and savior Donny Christ!

LOL @ Wokeblade's meltdown. It's gotta be hard for you to watch how your boy Biden has fukked things up so badly in such a short time.

Only the true pathetic ones like yourself, Pelosi and Newsome who think Biden had handled this evacuation smoothly.

[theman93]

Anyways, this was exactly why we have to leave fast. Get our people out and get the heck out of that hell. You don't know who is a terrorist and who is a civilian. We should not be waging wars in countries like those except as a last resort.

Uhhh hmmmm...maybe, and this might be a bit of a long shot I don't know you tell me, their US passport could be checked to confirm they are a citizen?

No one is asking to wage a war. The mission is pretty simple: Get our people out. If they won't let out people out, then a war to rescue our people is like you said - a last resort.

[8Ball]

How fast will it take Biden to blame this terror attack on Trump?

[Dbrog]

Wow basically Taliban checking the balls on Biden right here. Now he either goes back to war in the country he just left, or continues to wash his hands with it at the expense of American lives. Funny though that either decision makes him look like one of the worst presidents in history.

[Hey Yo]

Suppose to be a White House briefing soon. Biden better not send out Jen to do the talking for him.

[Hey Yo]

Reporting now.... 4 Marines were killed in that bombing along with the 3 wounded.

[n00bie]

Why are they still suicide bombing when they already took over the country? Wtf?

[Patrick Chewing]

Why are they still suicide bombing when they already took over the country? Wtf?

Reports are this is the work of ISIS-K or whatever that is, taking advantage of the unrest in Afghanistan.

[8Ball]

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ap_joe_biden_ice_cream_02_floated_jc_141009_16x9_1 600.jpg

[Long Duck Dong]

Why are they still suicide bombing when they already took over the country? Wtf?


They were warned to stay away from the airport or risk being killed.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. No more music, no more social media, no more women being able to walk alone or equal rights of any sort unless you are arab, Muslim and male. No more fun at all.

Technology will still be present but other than that their society is about to be set back 500 years. allahu akbar!

[Hey Yo]

Reports are this is the work of ISIS-K or whatever that is, taking advantage of the unrest in Afghanistan.

I hear questioning as to why the Taliban let the suicide bomber through the security check gate rather easily (wearing a bomb vest) when others have been screened and checked more thoroughly.

[Dbrog]

Why are they still suicide bombing when they already took over the country? Wtf?

Dude they were literally chanting ON VIDEO "death to America" as they took over said country. What did people realistically think would happen?

[Patrick Chewing]

4 confirmed US soldiers killed.


NO news briefing today from the State Dept.


Cowards.

[8Ball]

4 confirmed US soldiers killed.


NO news briefing today from the State Dept.


Cowards.

Biden should fly back to Camp David to show "strength".

[Patrick Chewing]

Biden should fly back to Camp David to show "strength".

Yup. And just to hammer home that strength, he should blame Trump and talk about Covid.

[theman93]

Dude they were literally chanting ON VIDEO "death to America" as they took over said country. What did people realistically think would happen?

Yeah but they seemed friendly!! :hammerhead::hammerhead::hammerhead:

[Hey Yo]

Death total rises to 10 servicemen killed today

[Patrick Chewing]

Death total rises to 10 servicemen killed today.


This is infuriating. Biden has to resign. There is no way this man is capable of running a country. Every spineless Liberal POS in this country does this country a disservice by voting for weak, and incompetent leaders time and time again. Shame on you and **** all of you.


This is how you create homegrown terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. You hang these people out to dry and you put them in harms way unnecessarily like this ****er Biden just did. And then when they finally come home, they have Liberal shit heads screaming at them and hating them.

[Hey Yo]

Pentagon says there were dozens of servicemembers wounded.

[theman93]

This is infuriating. Biden has to resign. There is no way this man is capable of running a country. Every spineless Liberal POS in this country does this country a disservice by voting for weak, and incompetent leaders time and time again. Shame on you and **** all of you.


This is how you create homegrown terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. You hang these people out to dry and you put them in harms way unnecessarily like this ****er Biden just did. And then when they finally come home, they have Liberal shit heads screaming at them and hating them.

Yeah Chewy but this just shows badly we needed to get out of there! Who cares how we went about it!! :hammerhead::hammerhead:

[bladefd]

I love how you brush this under the rug, but if the roles were reversed and Trump was still President, you would be excoriating him. You're a hypocrite.


This terrorist attack doesn't happen if Biden doesn't pull out the way he did. Biden has been wrong on all fronts, and there are plenty of Democrats who are echoing the same sentiment. Your lack of criticism towards the way Biden handled this is quite evident and it makes you look foolish.

No, I would not be. You didn't see me giving Trump a hard for taking so long to decide whether to stay or leave Afghanistan. It's not a decision you make overnight. (I just didn't trust Trump to stay true to his decision if he was still the president). You didn't see me raging everytime there was a suicide bomber the last 4 years, granted that there was a good number of them just like under Obama and Bush before him. It's an unstable area, and these attacks keep showing why it's best to leave.

[bladefd]

LOL @ Wokeblade's meltdown. It's gotta be hard for you to watch how your boy Biden has fukked things up so badly in such a short time.

Only the true pathetic ones like yourself, Pelosi and Newsome who think Biden had handled this evacuation smoothly.

My boy Biden? I didn't even vote for him in the primary.

[Patrick Chewing]

5 hours since the bombing and no comment from the President. :facepalm

[Hey Yo]

Death toll rises to 12 servicemembers

[Patrick Chewing]

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1430964915133681665?s=20

"C'mon man, no one's being killed right now."

[DoctorP]

it's NAMMMMMMMMMMM

[Dbrog]

No, I would not be. You didn't see me giving Trump a hard for taking so long to decide whether to stay or leave Afghanistan. It's not a decision you make overnight. (I just didn't trust Trump to stay true to his decision if he was still the president). You didn't see me raging everytime there was a suicide bomber the last 4 years, granted that there was a good number of them just like under Obama and Bush before him. It's an unstable area, and these attacks keep showing why it's best to leave.

Because it didn't happen. 2019 saw 23 service members were killed there and in 2020 11 were killed. Remember, those were for the ENTIRE year. We just lost 12 in a day

[Hey Yo]

U.S General says he feels there's enough servicemembers there now... that there'll be no need to send more to make things secure.

[Hey Yo]

Then refuses to say that he "doesn't" trust the Taliban. Kinda skirted around it and thinks their still useful in our mission.

[Hey Yo]

August 20th, Biden

We made clear to the Taliban that any disruption of the mission or attack on our forces.... will be met with quick forceful response

[imdaman99]

What the hell is ISISK? ISIS, ISIL, ISIK... come out with new names every other year? :wtf:

[Hey Yo]

Deadliest day for U.S Troops in a decade.

[JohnnySic]

If you voted for Biden you own this. The blood is on your hands too. Nice going.

I gotta admit though, the entertainment value provided by this dumpster fire administration has been top notch so far.

[ZenMaster]

What the hell is ISISK? ISIS, ISIL, ISIK... come out with new names every other year? :wtf:

ISIS Khorasan, a region in Afghanistan.

It's quite the feat. 80K Taliban forces throughout the country, US, UK, German and troops of other counties at Khabul airport.
Reports since yesterday said an attack was imminent.

And yet, a couple hundred ISIS fighters are successful in a suicide bombing and subsequent attack on the airport.
That at least from what I've read.

[JohnnySic]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9vJe_lWYAosHbA?format=jpg&name=large

[Hey Yo]

Biden to speak in about 45mins.... will he take questions or is the questions the General answered earlier be suffice for the day??

[Long Duck Dong]

I can't be mad at Biden over this. He honestly couldn't tell the difference between Afghanistan and a Kardashian at this point

[8Ball]

January 6 vs August 26.

What was a more bloody day in US history for Americans?

[8Ball]

What the hell is ISISK? ISIS, ISIL, ISIK... come out with new names every other year? :wtf:

ISIS from north east Iran and North West Afghanistan.

[Patrick Chewing]

Biden to speak in about 45mins.... will he take questions or is the questions the General answered earlier be suffice for the day??

If he doesn't talk about retaliation and a full recovery of all our allies and citizens in the region, then the 25th amendment should be enacted immediately and he should be removed due to dereliction of duty.

Enough is enough. And this shouldn't be a partisan issue.

[jstern]

Biden to speak in about 45mins.... will he take questions or is the questions the General answered earlier be suffice for the day??

He's going to mumble, and squint at the teleprompter. And then rush out to not answer any questions.

[Patrick Chewing]

January 6 vs August 26.

What was a more bloody day in US history for Americans?

:lol

[Im Still Ballin]

Don't know what to make of this. We should reserve judgment until all the facts come out.

[n00bie]

Dude they were literally chanting ON VIDEO "death to America" as they took over said country. What did people realistically think would happen?

Doesn't make sense to suicide on your own country.

Suicide bombings are usually done in other countries, or your own if you are beinf occupied.

I don't think I've ever seen someone suicide bomb their own country while in power?

[Patrick Chewing]

Doesn't make sense to suicide on your own country.

Suicide bombings are usually done in other countries, or your own if you are beinf occupied.

I don't think I've ever seen someone suicide bomb their own country while in power?

LOL most suicide bombings happen in the same country the suicide bomber is from.

[imdaman99]

Doesn't make sense to suicide on your own country.

Suicide bombings are usually done in other countries, or your own if you are beinf occupied.

I don't think I've ever seen someone suicide bomb their own country while in power?

No one knows what goes on in the mind of a lunatic suicide bomber. There is no rationale.

[Patrick Chewing]

No one knows what goes on in the mind of a lunatic suicide bomber. There is no rationale.

Yes we do. It's called radicalization. They believe they are actually doing good in the eyes of God. And it's usually someone in a position of power or heavy influence (an Imam) who is telling them such. If Muslim countries were good at eliminating religious fanatics and radicals, then you wouldn't have these problems in the Arab and Muslim world.

[Hey Yo]

Still waiting for Biden to comment.

[Hey Yo]

Cut to the fukkin chase, Joe

What are ya gonna do??

[Patrick Chewing]

81 million votes :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Wow he just said that "The first person I was instructed to call on..."


Who the **** is in charge of this country?? :roll:

[Hey Yo]

2 questions so far and nothing but run on and babbling

[Hey Yo]

Here we go.... Biden says he bears responsibility.... then instantly goes to "Trump made a deal"

[DoctorP]

Biden feeling the pain

[Hey Yo]

It was Don's fault that 12 servicemembers lost their lives today.

[Patrick Chewing]

It was Don's fault that 12 servicemembers lost their lives today.

And Democrat shills like the clowns that post on this board will lap it up.

[outofstomach]

This is infuriating. Biden has to resign. There is no way this man is capable of running a country. Every spineless Liberal POS in this country does this country a disservice by voting for weak, and incompetent leaders time and time again. Shame on you and **** all of you.


This is how you create homegrown terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. You hang these people out to dry and you put them in harms way unnecessarily like this ****er Biden just did. And then when they finally come home, they have Liberal shit heads screaming at them and hating them.
cope and seethe :lol

[outofstomach]

keep pulling out of the war biden :applause: these morons don’t care about the lives lost in attrition but when it comes to suicide bombers and terrorists now they’re up in arms :applause:

[Im Still Ballin]

I wonder where the next war will be. Someplace tropical, like Burma; that'd be cool.

[Patrick Chewing]

cope and seethe :lol

How did you cope today, highweight? 12 tacos? 13??

[Hey Yo]

keep pulling out of the war biden :applause: these morons don’t care about the lives lost in attrition but when it comes to suicide bombers and terrorists now they’re up in arms :applause:

LOL @ outofmyass

[Code Breaker]

More reason US needs to get the F out of there which they will by the 31st.

[bladefd]

More reason US needs to get the F out of there which they will by the 31st.

Depends on how many Americans are remaining. A report yesterday said about 1,500 US citizens are still stranded across Afghanistan. I don't know what the plan is for their retrieval. You could probably send out choppers to pick them up if they are isolated or in multi-story hotels with roofs, but if they are in cities, you would have to dispatch several Army units/Humvees to pick them up inside Taliban land.

[DoctorP]

Depends on how many Americans are remaining. A report yesterday said about 1,500 US citizens are still stranded across Afghanistan. I don't know what the plan is for their retrieval. You could probably send out choppers to pick them up if they are isolated or in multi-story hotels with roofs, but if they are in cities, you would have to dispatch several Army units/Humvees to pick them up inside Taliban land.

they are getting out little by little. hopefully they were able to get in touch with the exit people

[outofstomach]

How did you cope today, highweight? 12 tacos? 13??

believing people are imposters is a symptom of schizophrenia

[warriorfan]

Anyways, this was exactly why we have to leave fast. Get our people out and get the heck out of that hell. You don't know who is a terrorist and who is a civilian. We should not be waging wars in countries like those except as a last resort.

:roll:

[Axe]

Unfortunately for them, the door is now officially closed. :(

[n00bie]

LOL most suicide bombings happen in the same country the suicide bomber is from.

Yeah when they are trying to take over the country, or cause terror to the govt. They don't suicide bomb a country where they are in power of.

[theman93]

Doesn't make sense to suicide on your own country.

Suicide bombings are usually done in other countries, or your own if you are beinf occupied.

I don't think I've ever seen someone suicide bomb their own country while in power?

They suicide bombed Americans because they hate us. They don’t care if it’s their country or not lol.

[Chick Stern]

If you voted for Biden you own this. The blood is on your hands too. Nice going.

I gotta admit though, the entertainment value provided by this dumpster fire administration has been top notch so far.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1430989329342533637

[JohnnySic]

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1430989329342533637

LOL Ok. This didn't, and wouldn't have happened with Trump in office.

[bobopenguin]

terrorist are starting to kill american soldiers and anyone/everyone who worked with them, this happens cos Biden and his useless administration are showing sign of weakness.

wokes really fked up this time.

[Cleverness]

August 25th: ISIS branch poses biggest immediate terror threat to evacuation in Kabul (https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/isis-branch-poses-biggest-immediate-terror-threat-to-evacuation-in-kabul/)

Wow, who knew the CIA... errr, ISIS-K would set off a bomb at the airport

[Lakers Legend#32]

George W. Bush launches a disastrous war in Afghanistan.
FOX News does not give a damn about the 2,300 Marines killed over 20 years.
12 Americans die today and NOW they are losing their sh!t?

[Doomsday Dallas]

August 25th: ISIS branch poses biggest immediate terror threat to evacuation in Kabul (https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/isis-branch-poses-biggest-immediate-terror-threat-to-evacuation-in-kabul/)

Wow, who knew the CIA... errr, ISIS-K would set off a bomb at the airport


Are we sure this wasn't the work of the "Brothers of Awareness"?


https://youtu.be/WkFdij3Wr9M

[jstern]

George W. Bush launches a disastrous war in Afghanistan.
FOX News does not give a damn about the 2,300 Marines killed over 20 years.
12 Americans die today and NOW they are losing their sh!t?

Is that how CNN is spinning it? Are they pushing the narrative that it was just another common unfortunate but expected event of soldiers being killed in a war? As apposed as one of the biggest **** ups, displays of incompetence ever? Do you even know (as well as other CNN viewers) what the whole deal with this situation is?

[Lakers Legend#32]

If you voted for the man who autographed Bibles for his supporters,
shared a salute with a North Korea general,
used a Sharpie to change the course of a hurricane,
stared directly into the sun twice,
and tweeted a quote from Mussolini,
your opinion of Joe Biden's sanity is laughably irrelevant.

[Doomsday Dallas]

If you voted for the man who autographed Bibles for his supporters,
shared a salute with a North Korea general,
used a Sharpie to change the course of a hurricane,
stared directly into the sun twice,
and tweeted a quote from Mussolini,
your opinion of Joe Biden's sanity is laughably irrelevant.


So, because you suffer from TDS... Biden can do no wrong. Understood.

[outofstomach]

George W. Bush launches a disastrous war in Afghanistan.
FOX News does not give a damn about the 2,300 Marines killed over 20 years.
12 Americans die today and NOW they are losing their sh!t?

exactly what i said :lol it’s fine when they die in the war but a one off terrorist attack sends everyone up to arms???

[Patrick Chewing]

George W. Bush launches a disastrous war in Afghanistan.
FOX News does not give a damn about the 2,300 Marines killed over 20 years.
12 Americans die today and NOW they are losing their sh!t?

You're a horrible human being.

[Patrick Chewing]

exactly what i said :lol it’s fine when they die in the war but a one off terrorist attack sends everyone up to arms???

Because they didn't need to die. You can be outraged at both you ****ing idiot.

[bladefd]

Because they didn't need to die. You can be outraged at both you ****ing idiot.

How do you suggest stopping this suicide bomber? What could Biden have done differently to stop this suicide bomber?? They have been saying for 2 days for Americans at the gates to disperse from the airport entrances. They have deployed over 6k troops at the airport. What could Biden have done to prevent this suicide bomber attack?

[Patrick Chewing]

How do you suggest stopping this suicide bomber? What could Biden have done differently to stop this suicide bomber?? They have been saying for 2 days for Americans at the gates to disperse from the airport entrances. They have deployed over 6k troops at the airport. What could Biden have done to prevent this suicide bomber attack?


Why are you so hard-headed? This could have all been prevented if their was a cohesive plan on pulling out. If our allies and citizens were evacuated first prior to the troops leaving, then you wouldn't have had this conglomeration of people at the airport. It's cause and effect man. The suicide bombing only happens because the troop pullout was done so poorly. I mean, think about what just happened here. The troops that died had to be sent back to Afghanistan because of the shitstorm that happened at the airport after the troops were pulled out. Do you understand that??


Your blatant defense of Biden clouds your judgment. You have a hard-on for making Trump look bad and Biden look good that you'll defend Biden no matter what. As I've said before, Biden could start dropping bombs on American civilians and you'd find some sick and perverted justification for it.

[imdaman99]

Why are you so hard-headed? This could have all been prevented if their was a cohesive plan on pulling out. If our allies and citizens were evacuated first prior to the troops leaving, then you wouldn't have had this conglomeration of people at the airport. It's cause and effect man. The suicide bombing only happens because the troop pullout was done so poorly. I mean, think about what just happened here. The troops that died had to be sent back to Afghanistan because of the shitstorm that happened at the airport after the troops were pulled out. Do you understand that??


Your blatant defense of Biden clouds your judgment. You have a hard-on for making Trump look bad and Biden look good that you'll defend Biden no matter what. As I've said before, Biden could start dropping bombs on American civilians and you'd find some sick and perverted justification for it.
Pot meet kettle.

Bro are you seriously typing shit like this? Give it a rest, people lost lives and you are here ALWAYS MAKING IT POLITICAL. Just to own the libs :facepalm

[Patrick Chewing]

Pot meet kettle.

Bro are you seriously typing shit like this? Give it a rest, people lost lives and you are here ALWAYS MAKING IT POLITICAL. Just to own the libs :facepalm

Pot meet kettle? How so?


Oh I know people lost their lives, I'm the one that created the ****ing thread in the first place. But then you have idiots like blade saying stupid shit like: "Well, uhhh uhhh what could Biden have done differently? Uhhh durrr it was going to happen anyway."

Really? A terrorist was going to bomb civilians and US soldiers at the airport in Kabul anyway?? It was destined to happen? **** outta here.


It's not political to call someone out for their mishandling of something. Cause God knows if Trump was President, blade and his cronies would be excoriating him all up and down ISH.

[bladefd]

Why are you so hard-headed? This could have all been prevented if their was a cohesive plan on pulling out. If our allies and citizens were evacuated first prior to the troops leaving, then you wouldn't have had this conglomeration of people at the airport. It's cause and effect man. The suicide bombing only happens because the troop pullout was done so poorly. I mean, think about what just happened here. The troops that died had to be sent back to Afghanistan because of the shitstorm that happened at the airport after the troops were pulled out. Do you understand that??


Your blatant defense of Biden clouds your judgment. You have a hard-on for making Trump look bad and Biden look good that you'll defend Biden no matter what. As I've said before, Biden could start dropping bombs on American civilians and you'd find some sick and perverted justification for it.

Like what? What would have Trump done differently to prevent this suicide bomber? The evacuation had been on-going since early July. The afghan army was still standing until 2 weeks ago. The taliban made an all-out push 10 days prior to that. The US air force picked up the number of airstrikes across Afghanistan around May as we neared the pullout. More targets were struck in those couple waning months than in a long time to take down as many of the taliban before leaving for good. That was the leadoff towards our evacuation, yet the taliban still made a push around those airstrikes.

We have had an army buildup as the taliban pushed towards the airport. What could have been done differently to save afghan army from their own cowardice and massive Taliban push? How are you so certain things would have been done so differently from the very beginning of this evacuation? Trump's entire administration has been nothing but a revolving door, mistakes, blunders and scandals, yet you expect it to have been different this time? You seem 100% certain guaranteed, just like Trump's victory for many months leading up to the actual election. You were wrong then. Could it be even a little bit possible that you are wrong this time too?

[Patrick Chewing]

Like what? What would have Trump done differently to prevent this suicide bomber?

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:


I can't talk to this guy anymore. Someone else step in for me. Too old for this shit. All he does is circle back to the same shit...."What would Trump have done differently" bullshit.

Now he's trying to say that the suicide bombing would have happened regardless. I...I can't anymore.

[outofstomach]

Because they didn't need to die. You can be outraged at both you ****ing idiot.
and you’re brainwashed into thinking people actually had to die in Afghanistan? are you serious? :applause: oh my god :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

and you’re brainwashed into thinking people actually had to die in Afghanistan? are you serious? :applause: oh my god :lol

Highweight...fat boy.....read what I wrote again you illiterate fool.



"outofstomach" what a silly name. You wish you can take all those tacos out of your stomach fat boy. But you're just too addicted to the carnitas. :lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

Hey Republicans!
Are you upset that American soldiers are dying in Afghanistan?
Then stop invading other countries.
Republican war monger George W. Bush invaded Afghanistan. Go blame him for all the deaths.
This is yet another war started by Republicans.
Once again, Democrats cleaning up the mess left by Republicans and their wars for profits.

[8Ball]

I am not pro war.

But Obama started a mini war in Libya.


President Barack Obama launched an air campaign against Libya on this day in 2011. The decision to order the strikes came after the United Nations Security Council passed a resolution, spearheaded by his administration, that authorized military intervention in Libya.


Obama calls failing to prepare for the "after" was his worse mistake in Libya.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/04/obamas-worst-mistake-libya/478461/

[8Ball]

Lakers Legend.

How do you feel about Obama getting involved in Syria to fight ISIS?

[diamenz]

Lakers Legend.

How do you feel about Obama getting involved in Syria to fight ISIS?

he doesn't feel. he's just a liberal talking point machine.

[theman93]

So, some things that could have been done differently:

-Put US troops in control of the checkpoints en route to Kabul’s airport instead of the Taliban. The Taliban allowed 2 ISIS bombers through.

-Don’t abandon your largest airbase in Bagram. This was our largest asset and we just gave it up. This was an existing secure point we could have used for evacuation instead of the Kabul airport which was not secure.

-Evacuate civilians and allies before giving up so much ground that Kabul’s unsecured airport was the only place left to escape.

-Communicate with our allies the timing and pace of our withdrawal. We left UK’s prime minister in the dark for 36 hours.

-Listen to your intelligence officials when they were telling you the Taliban’s advance was imminent and Afghanistan’s military may be unable to stop it. In other words, slow the pace of the withdrawal - something that was in best the interest of everyone involved.

The Biden administration abandoned our greatest strategical asset for no reason, rushed the evacuation which benefited no one, ignored intelligence officials, refused to communicate with our allies and relied on terrorists for security.

Don’t do those things and the situation that occurred yesterday doesn’t happen.

[Patrick Chewing]

So, some things that could have been done differently:

-Put US troops in control of the checkpoints en route to Kabul’s airport instead of the Taliban. The Taliban allowed 2 ISIS bombers through.

-Don’t abandon your largest airbase in Bagram. This was our largest asset and we just gave it up. This was an existing secure point we could have used for evacuation instead of the Kabul airport which was not secure.

-Evacuate civilians and allies before giving up so much ground that Kabul’s unsecured airport was the only place left to escape.

-Communicate with our allies the timing and pace of our withdrawal. We left UK’s prime minister in the dark for 36 hours.

-Listen to your intelligence officials when they were telling you the Taliban’s advance was imminent and Afghanistan’s military may be unable to stop it. In other words, slow the pace of the withdrawal - something that was in best the interest of everyone involved.

The Biden administration abandoned our greatest strategical asset for no reason, rushed the evacuation which benefited no one, ignored intelligence officials, refused to communicate with our allies and relied on terrorists for security.

Don’t do those things and the situation that occurred yesterday doesn’t happen.

"But...but what could have Trump done differently??"

Gee I dunno, how about evacuate everyone that needed to be evacuated first. :lol

[Lakers Legend#32]

Reminder:
63 American servicemembers died in Afghanistan under Trump.
I don't recall any MAGATS calling for his impeachment over this.

[BigKobeFan]

Reminder:
63 American servicemembers died in Afghanistan under Trump.
I don't recall any MAGATS calling for his impeachment over this.

Clown idiot

2,499 died under Obama.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/some-2500-americans-have-died-in-afghanistan-and-iraq-under-obama-62022/

[fsvr54]

Hey Republicans!
Are you upset that American soldiers are dying in Afghanistan?
Then stop invading other countries.
Republican war monger George W. Bush invaded Afghanistan. Go blame him for all the deaths.
This is yet another war started by Republicans.
Once again, Democrats cleaning up the mess left by Republicans and their wars for profits.

Nobody is actually a "Republican" here. Just conservative.

Bush was a globalist more than anything.

[theman93]

"But...but what could have Trump done differently??"

Gee I dunno, how about evacuate everyone that needed to be evacuated first. :lol
Yeah the “what could Biden have done differently??” take either comes from being willfully ignorant or just plain stupid. In a competent exit strategy those marines aren’t even in that position in the first place.

[Patrick Chewing]

In a competent exit strategy those marines aren’t even in that position in the first place.

Exactly. blade is being willfully ignorant here just to protect Biden. He doesn't have the heart to criticize the man after spending 4 years criticizing Trump.


Cause and effect.

- If the Marines weren't there in the first place, they would be alive today.

- If I touch a hot stove, I will burn my hand.

- If I continue to read blade's posts, I will get dumber.

[Patrick Chewing]

Clown idiot

2,499 died under Obama.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/some-2500-americans-have-died-in-afghanistan-and-iraq-under-obama-62022/


https://media3.giphy.com/media/3owzW9EZI8M3sz9s5O/200.gif


That should shut up that Lakers idiot for a while I hope.

[DoctorP]

Biden taking the L right now.

Republican simps frothing at the mouth.

Biden on one knee.

This is fine.

[theman93]

Exactly. blade is being willfully ignorant here just to protect Biden. He doesn't have the heart to criticize the man after spending 4 years criticizing Trump.


Cause and effect.

- If the Marines weren't there in the first place, they would be alive today.

- If I touch a hot stove, I will burn my hand.

- If I continue to read blade's posts, I will get dumber.
:roll: :roll:

[bladefd]

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:


I can't talk to this guy anymore. Someone else step in for me. Too old for this shit. All he does is circle back to the same shit...."What would Trump have done differently" bullshit.

Now he's trying to say that the suicide bombing would have happened regardless. I...I can't anymore.

You left out the most important portion:

How are you so certain things would have been done so differently from the very beginning of this evacuation? Trump's entire administration has been nothing but a revolving door, mistakes, blunders and scandals, yet you expect it to have been different this time? You seem 100% certain guaranteed, just like Trump's victory for many months leading up to the actual election. You were wrong then. Could it be even a little bit possible that you are wrong this time too?


He lost the election because of his desperation and incompetence. If he was a great president, a charismatic reliable consistent brilliant leader, he would not have lost the election. Nobody thought highly of Biden or that he had the mental health to lead this nation. They just didn't believe at all in Trump. It's very simple. Biden won because of Trump. Trump lost because of Trump. And you somehow have this belief that things would have been done much better under someone as incompetent as him? The pattern of history throughout Trump administration, his behavior, actions says something very different. Get lost.

[theman93]

post rolling emojis in a thread about the deaths of US servicemen...

really shows your lack of character and true intentions. :facepalm

Laughing at blade’s idiot takes defending how nothing could have been done differently than what Biden did has nothing to do with dead servicemen.

Try again.

[Patrick Chewing]

blade's on ignore. Someone give me the Cliffs notes.

Is he still talking about how Trump would do nothing different?

[SATAN]

lmao@cancelling blade.

Wouldn't that make you just as bad as the people you whine about every day? :facepalm

[theman93]

context doesn't excuse your lack of respect. mental gymnastics...keep using them, doesn't change reality

https://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bobsgifs.gif

[Lakers Legend#32]

Miss Lindsay Graham thinks ending a foreign war is impeachable, but inciting a civil war (Jan.6th) is not.

[theman93]

you probably watch that trash cartoon too, sounds about right for your (low) caliber of person.

False assumption (again).

[Axe]

you probably watch that trash cartoon too, sounds about right for your (low) caliber of person.
Typical of a magat

[Patrick Chewing]

you probably watch that trash cartoon too, sounds about right for your (low) caliber of person.

You probably don't like that cartoon cause they're White.

[theman93]

Miss Lindsay Graham thinks ending a foreign war is impeachable, but inciting a civil war (Jan.6th) is not.

Lindsay Graham is trash. Just like Mitch McConnell.

[BigKobeFan]

Miss Lindsay Graham thinks ending a foreign war is impeachable, but inciting a civil war (Jan.6th) is not.

Fbi said no insurrection, no russia, no collusion already. But keep listening to youtube videoes dated 2019

[BigKobeFan]

You left out the most important portion:

How are you so certain things would have been done so differently from the very beginning of this evacuation? Trump's entire administration has been nothing but a revolving door, mistakes, blunders and scandals, yet you expect it to have been different this time? You seem 100% certain guaranteed, just like Trump's victory for many months leading up to the actual election. You were wrong then. Could it be even a little bit possible that you are wrong this time too?


He lost the election because of his desperation and incompetence. If he was a great president, a charismatic reliable consistent brilliant leader, he would not have lost the election. Nobody thought highly of Biden or that he had the mental health to lead this nation. They just didn't believe at all in Trump. It's very simple. Biden won because of Trump. Trump lost because of Trump. And you somehow have this belief that things would have been done much better under someone as incompetent as him? The pattern of history throughout Trump administration, his behavior, actions says something very different. Get lost.

Damn. Right on the money. This guy blade is worse than cnn. Just saying the same shit over and over again doesnt make it true

[bladefd]

lmao@cancelling blade.

Wouldn't that make you just as bad as the people you whine about every day? :facepalm

He is a snowflake. He can't handle the truth.

Pattychewy adding me to his ignore list says everything I needed him to say. That action alone speaks 1000x more powerful than anything he could actually say.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Damn. Right on the money. This guy blade is worse than cnn. Just saying the same shit over and over again doesnt make it true

The only ones saying this are the right-wing media.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Dear Republicans,
If you sat silently while Trump abandoned Syria and evacuated zero of our Kurdish allies and handed our military base over to Russia,
then you can shut up while Biden is rescuing tens of thousands.

[Patrick Chewing]

He is a snowflake. He can't handle the truth.

Pattychewy adding me to his ignore list says everything I needed him to say. That action alone speaks 1000x more powerful than anything he could actually say.

Oh blade....I've always been right here, sweetheart. You think you can get away with posting your stupidity and not get called out on it??

Think again.

[bobopenguin]

Dear Republicans,
If you sat silently while Trump abandoned Syria and evacuated zero of our Kurdish allies and handed our military base over to Russia,
then you can shut up while Biden is rescuing tens of thousands.

Dear Leftist:
be reminded that Trump did made bitches in middle east sat down and talk things out.
also, be reminded, that biden handed the country, Afghanistan, to a group of terrorists & gifted them 110 black hawks helicopters.

[Patrick Chewing]

The only ones saying this are the right-wing media.


You watch Right-Wing media??

[diamenz]

Dear Leftist:
be reminded that Trump did made bitches in middle east sat down and talk things out.
also, be reminded, that biden handed the country, Afghanistan, to a group of terrorists & gifted them 110 black hawks helicopters.

so... i'm not a 'leftist', but i applauded him for pushing that taliban peace deal. honestly that was pretty f***ing courageous for a POTUS if you ask me. mike pompeo deserves credit on that front as well.

but do you remember when trump pulled out of syria unceremoniously (which i actually supported), told the kurds to go f*** themselves and a whole lot of them were massacred? where were you then? did you feel the same way about that, or was that different because it was daddy trump? where were you when trump got swayed and played by his generals multiple times and ended up surging troops in afghanistan igniting an air war? orange man do no harm, huh?

"this never would have happened under trump".

you're probably right. because his generals would have come to him and said "oh, the fall of kabul? yeah, you can't have that. it would be a media shitstorm". and we ALL KNOW full well how much trump cares about his ego and optics. do you really think he'd be willing to deal with the backlash from every side and every angle of the media? let me make this point. the maga people fully understood that the president's hands can often be tied, and the set of circumstances that he finds himself in are a result of the deep state taking action against him and f***ing him over. NOW all of a sudden that disappears when it comes to joe biden? joe biden is the unitary executive but trump was just a man at the whim of these exotic forces? yeah, gimme a break.

let's be real. getting out of a twenty year war ISN'T EASY and it's gonna be messy. you either support the withdrawal or you don't. if we had stayed longer and gotten "everything in order" in this forever war, we would have violated the peace agreement and been back in a hot war. THAT's the alternative - another surge and MORE us troops dying. all of this other bullshit is just political weaponization and partisan banter led indeed by the deep state, foreign policy establishment and incompetent media. let's not forget the REAL tragedy here. hundreds of thousands of lives lost in a twenty year long war and trillions of $ spent only to exit leaving the taliban stronger and richer than when we went in. but at least we got osama bin laden.

that's my two cents anyway.

[outofstomach]

so... i'm not a 'leftist', but i applauded him for pushing that taliban peace deal. honestly that was pretty f***ing courageous for a POTUS if you ask me. mike pompeo deserves credit on that front as well.

but do you remember when trump pulled out of syria unceremoniously (which i actually supported), told the kurds to go f*** themselves and a whole lot of them were massacred? where were you then? did you feel the same way about that, or was that different because it was daddy trump? where were you when trump got swayed and played by his generals multiple times and ended up surging troops in afghanistan igniting an air war? orange man do no harm, huh?

"this never would have happened under trump".

you're probably right. because his generals would have come to him and said "oh, the fall of kabul? yeah, you can't have that. it would be a media shitstorm". and we ALL KNOW full well how much trump cares about his ego and optics. do you really think he'd be willing to deal with the backlash from every side and every angle of the media? let me make this point. the maga people fully understood that the president's hands can often be tied, and the set of circumstances that he finds himself in are a result of the deep state taking action against him and f***ing him over. NOW all of a sudden that disappears when it comes to joe biden? joe biden is the unitary executive but trump was just a man at the whim of these exotic forces? yeah, gimme a break.

let's be real. getting out of a twenty year war ISN'T EASY and it's gonna be messy. you either support the withdrawal or you don't. if we had stayed longer and gotten "everything in order" in this forever war, we would have violated the peace agreement and been back in a hot war. THAT's the alternative - another surge and MORE us troops dying. all of this other bullshit is just political weaponization and partisan banter led indeed by the deep state, foreign policy establishment and incompetent media. let's not forget the REAL tragedy here. hundreds of thousands of lives lost in a twenty year long war and trillions of $ spent only to exit leaving the taliban stronger and richer than when we went in. but at least we got osama bin laden.

that's my two cents anyway.
:applause:

[ZenMaster]

Dear Republicans,
If you sat silently while Trump abandoned Syria and evacuated zero of our Kurdish allies and handed our military base over to Russia,
then you can shut up while Biden is rescuing tens of thousands.

I remember that, it was the one where ABC used footage from a gun range in Kentucky.


https://youtu.be/BuO6yJrRAYw

[Patrick Chewing]

I remember that, it was the one where ABC used footage from a gun range in Kentucky.


https://youtu.be/BuO6yJrRAYw

https://media.thetab.com/uploads/2013/05/crosspost-gif10.gif


Mainstream media trying to fool the masses.

[bladefd]

so... i'm not a 'leftist', but i applauded him for pushing that taliban peace deal. honestly that was pretty f***ing courageous for a POTUS if you ask me. mike pompeo deserves credit on that front as well.

but do you remember when trump pulled out of syria unceremoniously (which i actually supported), told the kurds to go f*** themselves and a whole lot of them were massacred? where were you then? did you feel the same way about that, or was that different because it was daddy trump? where were you when trump got swayed and played by his generals multiple times and ended up surging troops in afghanistan igniting an air war? orange man do no harm, huh?

"this never would have happened under trump".

you're probably right. because his generals would have come to him and said "oh, the fall of kabul? yeah, you can't have that. it would be a media shitstorm". and we ALL KNOW full well how much trump cares about his ego and optics. do you really think he'd be willing to deal with the backlash from every side and every angle of the media? let me make this point. the maga people fully understood that the president's hands can often be tied, and the set of circumstances that he finds himself in are a result of the deep state taking action against him and f***ing him over. NOW all of a sudden that disappears when it comes to joe biden? joe biden is the unitary executive but trump was just a man at the whim of these exotic forces? yeah, gimme a break.

let's be real. getting out of a twenty year war ISN'T EASY and it's gonna be messy. you either support the withdrawal or you don't. if we had stayed longer and gotten "everything in order" in this forever war, we would have violated the peace agreement and been back in a hot war. THAT's the alternative - another surge and MORE us troops dying. all of this other bullshit is just political weaponization and partisan banter led indeed by the deep state, foreign policy establishment and incompetent media. let's not forget the REAL tragedy here. hundreds of thousands of lives lost in a twenty year long war and trillions of $ spent only to exit leaving the taliban stronger and richer than when we went in. but at least we got osama bin laden.

that's my two cents anyway.

Very good post and 100% on point. Exactly the point I have been trying to make, but you spelled it out for these buffoons unable to understand the intricacies. You understand perfectly.

Yeah Biden didn't do a good job here, but we must not act as if the previous administration would have done a great job - the egocentric & narcissistic pattern that had been established over 4yrs paints a very different picture. Or another administration for that fact..

[Patrick Chewing]

Very good post and 100% on point. Biden didn't do a good job here, but we must not act as if the previous administration would have done a great job - the egocentric & narcissistic pattern that had been established over 4yrs paints a very different picture.

There it is! He finally says it!


But then he ruins it with his Whataboutism....:oldlol: Too predictable.


blade, you have no evidence to prove that the previous administration would have not done a great job. Instead, there is ample evidence to prove that they would have done a great job seeing as they pretty much eliminated ISIS, and they singled out and took out General Soleimani. So with that track record, you really think Trump would have blundered this the way your boy Joe Biden did?? GTFO here!

[bladefd]

blade's on ignore. Someone give me the Cliffs notes.

Is he still talking about how Trump would do nothing different?

You can't resist my sexiness can you snowflake? One minute on ignore, next you are responding to every post I make :pimp:

[bladefd]

There it is! He finally says it!


But then he ruins it with his Whataboutism....:oldlol: Too predictable.


blade, you have no evidence to prove that the previous administration would have not done a great job. Instead, there is ample evidence to prove that they would have done a great job seeing as they pretty much eliminated ISIS, and they singled out and took out General Soleimani. So with that track record, you really think Trump would have blundered this the way your boy Joe Biden did?? GTFO here!

I don't need evidence to prove it. I have a pattern of behavior and actions over 4yrs to establish a precedence to prove my case. That's all I need. Read diamentz post.

Besides I can't prove the non-existence of a hypothetical.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't need evidence to prove it. I have a pattern of behavior and actions over 4yrs to establish a precedence to prove my case. That's all I need. Read diamentz post.

Besides I can't prove the non-existence of a hypothetical.

:roll:


So then you can't prove that he wouldn't have done any better as you've been claiming for the whole week??


Trump doesn't get troops killed. Biden does. You voted for a guy who took troops out, then because he screwed up, had to send troops back in, and 13 of those troops are now dead because of that. Live with that, scrub.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Blaming a 20-year-nightmare on the guy getting us out has to be the most MAGAT-brained thing ever.

[8Ball]

There really is no defence for how this pullout happened.

Stuck with 1 airport with tens of thousands of people to evacuate.
Can't fire back to protect yourself.
Surrounded by Taliban.
Surrounded by suicide bombers itching to blow themselves up.

[8Ball]

Blaming a 20-year-nightmare on the guy getting us out has to be the most MAGAT-brained thing ever.

Biden voted for the Afghanistan war in 2001.


Biden was a strong supporter of the War in Afghanistan, saying, "Whatever it takes, we should do it."

He also gave his vote of approval to start the Iraq war.


What do you think about this? His vote as a senator bears no weight am I right?

[BigKobeFan]

Biden voted for the Afghanistan war in 2001.



He also gave his vote of approval to start the Iraq war.


What do you think about this? His vote as a senator bears no weight am I right?:applause:

[Patrick Chewing]

Biden voted for the Afghanistan war in 2001.



He also gave his vote of approval to start the Iraq war.


What do you think about this? His vote as a senator bears no weight am I right?


Lakers Legend will be away from his computer for the next few hours.

[8Ball]

People don't realize Afghanistan war had unanimous vote in senate and only 1 congresswoman voted against it.

Congress senate and white house is a coequal branch of government and congress approval is needed to start any war.

Biden giving his vote directly contributed to Afghanistan.

By the way I have no problem with Afghanistan war since 9/11 had to be paid for in Taliban and Al Queda blood. Pure and simple.

[ZenMaster]

I don't need evidence to prove it. I have a pattern of behavior and actions over 4yrs to establish a precedence to prove my case. That's all I need. Read diamentz post.

Besides I can't prove the non-existence of a hypothetical.

If this would have happened under Trump, you'd probably be talking about how it's his fault for not doing anything against the Russian bounties put out on US service members..

[warriorfan]

“I don’t trust your source”

“What about what Donald Trump did?”

Bladefd’s post history in a nutshell.

[bladefd]

:roll:


So then you can't prove that he wouldn't have done any better as you've been claiming for the whole week??


Trump doesn't get troops killed. Biden does. You voted for a guy who took troops out, then because he screwed up, had to send troops back in, and 13 of those troops are now dead because of that. Live with that, scrub.

Just like you can't prove that Trump would have done a good job. Precedence says otherwise, but I'm willing to admit that I don't know the hypotheticals for certain. Neither do you. All you have available are "ifs, buts, and maybes", but you will never admit that. You are too much of a snowflake and coward to admit that you could be wrong.

[bladefd]

If this would have happened under Trump, you'd probably be talking about how it's his fault for not doing anything against the Russian bounties put out on US service members..

I never said that Biden did a good job with the Afghanistan evacuation. All I said is that it's unlikely Trump would have done a good job or any president for that matter. Afghanistan was a hell just waiting to blow up.

[Patrick Chewing]

Blade is an idiot. He lives in a world of what ifs and what abouts. I don't have to prove that Trump would have done a better job! He's not the President any longer.

I want you to acknowledge that Biden ****ed this up and then shut up immediately afterwards. Don't say "uhh but Trump wouldn't have done any better uh huh huh huh". Just be quiet after you admit Biden ****ed up. It's that simple!

[diamenz]

gotta love patrick chewing and bladefd. two peas of the same pod on opposite sides of the spectrum. you two were made for each other.

[Patrick Chewing]

gotta love patrick chewing and bladefd. two peas of the same pod on opposite sides of the spectrum. you two were made for each other.

Heh. Reading this makes me wonder, in the history of mankind, has there ever been a case where an argument of two opposing viewpoints led to one party agreeing with the other.

[bladefd]

Blade is an idiot. He lives in a world of what ifs and what abouts. I don't have to prove that Trump would have done a better job! He's not the President any longer.

I want you to acknowledge that Biden ****ed this up and then shut up immediately afterwards. Don't say "uhh but Trump wouldn't have done any better uh huh huh huh". Just be quiet after you admit Biden ****ed up. It's that simple!

You began the hypotheticals 2 weeks ago with "Bbbbbbut Trump ____" as if everything was a comparison to your former lover Donny. I dispelled that utter nonsense hypothetical based not in logic but the passion you have for that orange toad.

I don't do hypotheticals. I personally believe hypotheticals are foolish endeavors that are meaningless.

[diamenz]

Heh. Reading this makes me wonder, in the history of mankind, has there ever been a case where an argument of two opposing viewpoints led to one party agreeing with the other.

probably not online. in fact, i'm sure of it lol. but when you're face to face with someone, and you're both willing to step out of your bubbles and actually listen to each other then you start to get somewhere. LISTEN, instead of thinking about what you're going to say next (not you in particular, but people in general) would be my approach. a lot of times you find that a lot of what the other person says makes sense, even though you may not agree with them because you come from difference places.

[bobopenguin]

do u guys have any idea the importance of Trump peace plan for Palestinian and Israeli people and middle east? that's an instant nobel prize for anyone except him.

and then u guys dont think he has the ability to deal with Afghanistan and taliban? jesus.

[theman93]

do u guys have any idea the importance of Trump peace plan for Palestinian and Israeli people and middle east? that's an instant nobel prize for anyone except him.

and then u guys dont think he has the ability to deal with Afghanistan and taliban? jesus.
The Biden administration abandoned our greatest strategical asset and largest military base for no reason, rushed the evacuation to the point that we gave up so much ground that Kabul’s unsecured airport was the only place left to escape, ignored intelligence officials, refused to communicate with our allies and relied on terrorists for check point security en route to Kabul’s airport.

“B-b-b-but what could Trump have done differently??” Gee I don’t know, just do the opposite of all those brain dead decisions?

[Mr. Woke]

The Biden administration keeps winning.

Why do conservacucks hate America?

[Code Breaker]

There really is no defence for how this pullout happened.

Stuck with 1 airport with tens of thousands of people to evacuate.
Can't fire back to protect yourself.
Surrounded by Taliban.
Surrounded by suicide bombers itching to blow themselves up.

Still got out 100k+ people wasn't perfect and still sad though.

[theman93]

Still got out 100k+ people wasn't perfect and still sad though.

Yeah except only 5,400 of them were Americans. Meaning there’s still approximately 5,000-10,000 still stuck there.

[Lakers Legend#32]

900 Americans died this week in Florida, not Afghanistan.
Where is the call to remove DeSantis?

[bladefd]

900 Americans died this week in Florida, not Afghanistan.
Where is the call to remove DeSantis?

The same fools are pushing DeSantis for president :oldlol::facepalm

[Code Breaker]

Yeah except only 5,400 of them were Americans. Meaning there’s still approximately 5,000-10,000 still stuck there.

Source? doubt it's that high.

[theman93]

Source? doubt it's that high.


The Pentagon said Saturday morning at a briefing that as of August 14, about 117,000 people have been evacuated from Kabul, including 5,400 Americans.

That number is far short of the 11,000 Americans who were estimated to still be inside Afghanistan given by White House press secretary Jen Psaki last week.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/28/pentagon-117000-evacuated-from-kabul-5400-americans-citizens/

Thought I saw 14,000-15,000 Americans were originally stuck. Can't find the source for it though. So 5,000-6,000 Americans are still stuck and the deadline is 8/31.

[SATAN]

:facepalm

[bladefd]

Last I read, our secretary of state estimated fewer than 1,000 American citizens still remain. I don't know how many of them actually want to leave and how many don't want to.

[Cleverness]

The same fools are pushing DeSantis for president :oldlol::facepalm

Imagine unironically quoting Lakers Legend#32 as a source of intelligent thought.

[Patrick Chewing]

Last I read, our secretary of state estimated fewer than 1,000 American citizens still remain. I don't know how many of them actually want to leave and how many don't want to.

The fact that you take these unprofessional and unqualified people at their word says a lot more about you than it does them.

[Nanners]

With the bombing of that one Afghan household the other day, Joe Biden killed more children last week than Covid

[bladefd]

State Department as of today:


The State Department said Sunday that there were up to 250 Americans still in Afghanistan who have indicated they are trying to get out, in addition to roughly 280 others who have yet to decide whether they want to leave the country or intend to stay.https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/569960-us-evacuates-1200-more-from-kabul-as-numbers-dip-ahead-of-withdrawal

[Lakers Legend#32]

Never seen so many 'Muricans "heartbroken" about a terrorist attack on the Afghanistan capital who still don't care about a terrorists attack on the American capital.

[Patrick Chewing]

Video of Taliban flying a Blackhawk helicopter over Kandahar while subsequently hanging someone from it while in the air: https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/taliban-black-hawk-helicopter-video-b1911264.html




Nothing to see here, Joe!

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2021012/rs_634x1024-210112170004-634-joe-biden-3-mp.jpg

[8Ball]

Never seen so many 'Muricans "heartbroken" about a terrorist attack on the Afghanistan capital who still don't care about a terrorists attack on the American capital.

August 26 vs January 6.

2 days that will live in infamy. Biden already had his January 6 type day within his first year.

[DoctorP]

Video of Taliban flying a Blackhawk helicopter over Kandahar while subsequently hanging someone from it while in the air: https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/taliban-black-hawk-helicopter-video-b1911264.html




Nothing to see here, Joe!

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2021012/rs_634x1024-210112170004-634-joe-biden-3-mp.jpg

So Trump allowed the US to give the Afghan military 33 helicopters?

OOF! :hammerhead:

[Patrick Chewing]

I laugh every time Liberals bring up January 6th as if it was some sort of unprecedented attack of epic proportions. Talking about "our democracy was threatened" :roll:


That's why the people that have been arrested, the highest charge they've been convicted on has been Misdemeanor unlawful entry or trespassing. :roll:

I thought these people were terrorists??



But yeah, keep bringing up January 6th so we can keep laughing at you. You're so desperate to throw January 6th at us but ya'll just keep looking stupid.

[Patrick Chewing]

So Biden allowed the Taliban to steal 33 helicopters?

OOF! :hammerhead:



Fixed it for accuracy.

[DoctorP]

Fixed it for accuracy.

it was Trumps operation like it is his vaccine

Biden just pulled them out.

[Nanners]

I laugh every time Liberals bring up January 6th as if it was some sort of unprecedented attack of epic proportions. Talking about "our democracy was threatened" :roll:


That's why the people that have been arrested, the highest charge they've been convicted on has been Misdemeanor unlawful entry or trespassing. :roll:

I thought these people were terrorists??



But yeah, keep bringing up January 6th so we can keep laughing at you. You're so desperate to throw January 6th at us but ya'll just keep looking stupid.

How dare you laugh about jan 6th... dont you know that AOC could have been raped?

The unarmed guy with the horns would have overthrown our entire govt if that cop hadnt shot that unarmed woman

[Patrick Chewing]

I bow to my Democrat overlords. I will defend them to the death. I will deflect back to Trump. I am simp. Simp I am.

Fixed it for accuracy.

[Patrick Chewing]

How dare you laugh about jan 6th... dont you know that AOC could have been raped?

The unarmed guy with the horns would have overthrown our entire govt if that cop hadnt shot that unarmed woman

Would it have been like a remote rape? Or a Zoom rape? Seeing as how she wasn't even in the building. :lol

[DoctorP]

Fixed it for accuracy.

Dems dont get a free pass. That's for sure.

[Nanners]

Would it have been like a remote rape? Or a Zoom rape? Seeing as how she wasn't even in the building. :lol

Its a mind rape... which is still highly traumatic - just ask RRR3 'they' is a victim on a weekly basis

[Patrick Chewing]

Its a mind rape... which is still highly traumatic - just ask RRR3 'they' is a victim on a weekly basis

Ahh yes, plenty here on ISH suffer from mind rapes on a daily basis. It's really sad all around.

[diamenz]

Three major networks devoted a full five minutes to Afghanistan in 2020

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/08/20/three-major-networks-devoted-a-full-five-minutes-to-afghanistan-in-2020/


If the U.S. government was caught up short by the dramatic denouement of its 20-year war in Afghanistan, viewers of the three major networks must have been taken entirely by surprise.

Out of a combined 14,000-plus minutes of the national evening news broadcast on CBS, ABC, and NBC last year, a grand total of five minutes were devoted to Afghanistan, according to Andrew Tyndall, editor of the authoritative Tyndall Report, which has monitored and coded the networks’ nightly news each weekday since 1988.

Those five minutes, which covered the February 2020 Doha agreement between the United States and the Taliban, marked a 19-year low for Afghanistan coverage on the three networks’ newscasts. They compared to a high of 940 minutes the networks devoted to Afghanistan in 2001, all of it following 9/11 and the subsequent U.S. intervention, as shown below.

While the pathetic amount of coverage of the conflict last year can be partially explained by the virtually total dominance of the news agenda by the COVID-19 pandemic, the three networks devoted a total of only 362 minutes to Afghanistan in the preceding five years, or just two hours of coverage per network, or an average of only 24 minutes per network per year.

“The network nightly newscasts have not been on a war footing in their coverage of Afghanistan since 2014,” Tyndall wrote on his blog Thursday, referring to the last year of the surge of troops initiated by Obama in his first term). “For the last seven years they have treated the role of the military there as an afterthought, essentially a routine exercise in training and support, generating little excitement, no noticeable jeopardy and few headlines.”

Indeed, as much as the networks and other mainstream media are currently focused on the fate of Afghans who worked with the U.S. and allied forces and may now be trying to flee the country, very little of the network coverage over the past 20 years addressed the plight of Afghan soldiers and civilians compared to that accorded to U.S. soldiers. In an interview with Responsible Statecraft, Tyndall estimated that 95 percent of network coverage of the fighting itself after 2002 was devoted to the U.S. role.

While the cable news networks often receive more attention, and more Americans use the internet to seek information about world events, the three evening network news shows collectively remain the single most important source of international news in the United States.

On weekday evenings, an average of about 20 million U.S. households tune in to national news on CBS, ABC, or NBC — roughly four times the number of households who rely on the major cable stations — Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN —for their news (as opposed to commentary) during prime time. Roughly two million more people are estimated to watch the network news via the internet, according to Tyndall.

Moreover, what appears on the national networks often contributes heavily to the overall news agenda for other U.S. media organizations. “Because network news shows are the most mainstream of the mainstream media,” Tyndall noted, “they can be used as a proxy for the news judgment of mainstream media more generally.”

Except for the 1991 Gulf War, the post-9/11 Afghan and Iraq invasions and occupations, followed by the George W. Bush’s “Surge” of troops in Iraq in 2007, and Obama’s “Surge” in Afghanistan in his first term, foreign news has generally been in decline as the networks, as well as newspapers (many of which have folded due to sharp declines in advertising revenue), have closed bureaus to cut costs. In 2018, network coverage from overseas fell to the lowest point since at least 1988 (1,092 minutes out of a total of 14,354 minutes of newscasts). 2019 saw a slight uptick, but then, overwhelmed by COVID-related news, the networks hit rock bottom in news from abroad at 720 minutes — or five percent of all evening network news coverage –in 2020 of which that five minutes of Afghanistan coverage constituted 0.7 percent.

In that respect, the decline in coverage of Afghanistan tracked a much broader trend of network and mainstream media coverage of — or disinterest in— the world outside the United States.

According to Tyndall, network news coverage of Afghanistan has gone through four phases. The first, when coverage was heaviest, was the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and the subsequent U.S. and allied invasion. “Phase Two, stretching from 2003 through 2008,” Tyndall wrote on his blog, “saw Afghanistan presented as a sideshow, overwhelmed by the larger and deadlier invasion of Iraq.” The third phase covered Obama’s surge (to a high of 100,000 U.S. troops in-country) from 2009 to 2014, followed by the fourth phase when the networks withdrew its coverage as the Pentagon drew down the U.S. military presence.

The ebb and flow of the coverage over the 20 years clearly corresponded to the ebb and flow of the U.S. troop presence, a fact that reflects how sharply focused were the networks on the role of the U.S. military in the fighting. That virtually exclusive focus inevitably affected the ability of the networks — and their viewers — to understand the domestic – that is, Afghan — dynamics of the conflict. Dynamics such as the massive corruption and consequent hollowness of the state apparatus established and supported by Washington, the human rights abuses committed by Afghan security forces and allied militias, and the sources of the Taliban’s political support, among other factors that ultimately proved decisive in the events of the past few weeks.

These issues weren’t completely ignored by the networks, according to Tyndall who noted that they ran occasional “sidebars” about internal Afghani politics, culture, education, women’s rights, and the drug trade, but the time devoted to these stories constituted a fraction of that dedicated to the violence and war, particularly as it involved U.S. ground forces.

When ground forces were withdrawn, the networks lost interest, permitting the Pentagon to conduct an air war that drew little notice (much as it has done elsewhere). “For the American networks, ‘war’ means troops on the ground in harm’s way, not use of lethal force remotely by the Pentagon,” Tyndall told Responsible Statecraft.

Tyndall noted ironically that the event on which the meager five minutes of network attention were focused on Afghanistan last year — the Doha agreement — actually did offer a viewers a hint of what was to come, although the paucity of even that coverage still made it difficult to see the full implications. “If the Doha talks had been responsibly covered,” he said, “people would’ve understood that the powers that be in the U.S. believed that the leading political actor in Afghanistan was the Taliban, not the government.”

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[SATAN]

You're so desperate to throw January 6th at us but ya'll just keep looking stupid.

Iced Earth’s Jon Schaffer Says Inmates Threw Feces at Him in Jail


“My client, who is presumed innocent, has just gone through two months of hell where other people were throwing feces at him and urine at him and threatening his life in a horrible, horrible situation. Shame on us, Judge, that this is happening in our justice system.”

Today the far-right figure was released after pleading guilty to two out of six charges against him, in addition to agreeing to work with authorities to prosecute his fellow participants in the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

In addition to Schaffer agreeing to help authorities prosecute other rioters, he's agreed to aid the U.S. government in its pursuit against far-right groups the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/southbendtribune.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/18/e183688a-5948-11eb-af19-07cdd68ed775/60051418c35f5.image.jpg?resize=660%2C441

:oldlol:

:facepalm

[Cleverness]

Three major networks devoted a full five minutes to Afghanistan in 2020

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/08/20/three-major-networks-devoted-a-full-five-minutes-to-afghanistan-in-2020/

:lol

[Patrick Chewing]

Iced Earth’s Jon Schaffer Says Inmates Threw Feces at Him in Jail



Today the far-right figure was released after pleading guilty to two out of six charges against him, in addition to agreeing to work with authorities to prosecute his fellow participants in the January 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

In addition to Schaffer agreeing to help authorities prosecute other rioters, he's agreed to aid the U.S. government in its pursuit against far-right groups the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/southbendtribune.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/18/e183688a-5948-11eb-af19-07cdd68ed775/60051418c35f5.image.jpg?resize=660%2C441

:oldlol:

:facepalm

WTF is Jon doing?? There are no Far-Right groups that pose any threat in this country. Even as we type, Far Left groups like ANTIFA are destroying cities and throwing bottles and rocks at civilians and police.

But yeah....let's worry about those Oath Keepers.....:roll:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Don't tell me you are worried about women in Afghanistan if you are not worried about women in Texas.