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dankok8
08-29-2021, 04:55 PM
List:

#1 - Michael Jordan
#2 - Lebron James
#3 - VOTING NOW

This is the player pool:

https://i.postimg.cc/VN7jY7Zz/Top-10-Candidates.jpg

For a full player pool see the link.

Everyone may post in this thread but only votes from serious contributors will be considered. Not everyone has to write an essay but there should be some justification or explanation and some coherent arguments being presented. I encourage people to be open-minded and willing to adjust their rankings in response to strong evidence. Debate and discussion is encouraged.

Opening Vote Tally

Wilt Chamberlain - 4 (coastalmarker99, Thenameless, L. Kizzle, warriorfan)
Bill Russell - 4 (Dbrog, dankok8, Reggie43, jlip)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 4 (ChickStern, ClipperRevival, jstern, Overdrive)

ArbitraryWater
08-29-2021, 05:03 PM
strange player pool

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2021, 05:07 PM
Kareem

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 05:13 PM
Wilt.

Manny98
08-29-2021, 05:20 PM
Kareem

8Ball
08-29-2021, 06:03 PM
Kareem.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 06:32 PM
What did Moses Malone ever do to be considered top 10? STUPID

Kawhi can retire right now and have a better career. Wait until I get back on my computer and compare their careers. No way Moses is better

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2021, 06:34 PM
What did Moses Malone ever do to be considered top 10? STUPID

Kawhi can retire right now and have a better career. Wait until I get back on my computer and compare their careers. No way Moses is better
The thread says #3, not #30. We've got a LONG way to go before we start ranking Kawhi

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 06:44 PM
Here is the full list of what Moses achieved throughout his 21-year career

NBA champion (1983)

NBA Finals MVP (1983)

3× NBA Most Valuable Player (1979, 1982, 1983)

12× NBA All-Star (1978–1989)

ABA All-Star (1975)

4× All-NBA First Team (1979, 1982, 1983, 1985)

4× All-NBA Second Team (1980, 1981, 1984, 1987)

NBA All-Defensive First Team (1983)

NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1979)

ABA All-Rookie Team (1975)

6× NBA rebounding leader (1979, 1981–1985)

NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

ABA All-Time Team

No. 2 retired by Philadelphia 76ers

No. 24 retired by Houston Rockets

Points 29,580 (20.6 ppg)

Rebounds 17,834 (12.2 rpg)

Blocks 1889 (1.3 bpg)


Moses was the GOAT at offensive rebounding



While your boy Kawhi HBK Is the GOAT of sitting out games and getting injured all the time.

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2021, 06:47 PM
While your boy Kawhi HBK Is the GOAT of sitting out games and getting injured all the time.
He's also the GOAT at losing 3-1 leads while having double digit leads in every clinching game

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 06:51 PM
He's also the GOAT at losing 3-1 leads while having double digit leads in every clinching game


That 3 1 lead getting blown against Denver despite having double-digit leads in every clinching game is by far the WOAT choke that the NBA has ever seen.



Hell, it just might be one of the WOAT chokes in the history of all sports.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 07:01 PM
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=leonaka01&player_id2=malonmo01


Wow this is very embarrassing for Moses, i honestly thought it would be closer then this.

First lets take a look at regular season. Moses has a total of 5.0 career higher regular season VORP despite playing 31,419 more minutes! That's honestly insane, my jaw dropped. 5.0 VORP is like 1 season of VORP worth! This motherfuc*er is played 31k more minutes! 2k minutes is just a season. So Moses has to play 15 more seasons worth then Kawhi just to be barely beating. Kawhi barely even trying in regular season and still lapping this chump by 15 seasons worth of play! basketball reference completely shits on Moses compared to Kawhi.


Then in playoffs: Kawhi more then doubles Moses Malone's VORP at 12.2 compared to 5.4 and crushes him in win shares 22.5 compared to 14.8


I expected the playoffs but kawhi running laps around him in reg season for 15 seasons worth is embarrassing.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 07:02 PM
The thread says #3, not #30. We've got a LONG way to go before we start ranking Kawhi

How the hell did Moses make it? Kawhi has more finals MVPS and runs laps around in him in advanced stats in reg season and playoffs, click link above. 5.0 VORP is like a seasons worth and that's what Moses has more then Kawhi! oh yeah i forgot, he had to play 30k more minutes to do so HAHAHAHHAHAHA

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2021, 07:05 PM
That 3 1 lead getting blown against Denver despite having double-digit leads in every clinching game is by far the WOAT choke that the NBA has ever seen.



Hell, it just might be one of the WOAT chokes in the history of all sports.
The only chokes I think are clearly worse are the '04 Yankees & the Falcons in the Super Bowl. I'm sure people will bring up the 2016 Warriors, which was for sure an embarrassing loss, but at least they lost to a top 2-3 all time player playing out of his mind, and were competitive down to the final minute. The Clippers lost to the Nuggets as colossal favorites, blew two 15+ point 2nd half leads in Games 5 & 6, then got completely destroyed in Game 7.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 07:08 PM
Here is the full list of what Moses achieved throughout his 21-year career

NBA champion (1983)

NBA Finals MVP (1983)

3× NBA Most Valuable Player (1979, 1982, 1983)

12× NBA All-Star (1978–1989)

ABA All-Star (1975)

4× All-NBA First Team (1979, 1982, 1983, 1985)

4× All-NBA Second Team (1980, 1981, 1984, 1987)

NBA All-Defensive First Team (1983)

NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1979)

ABA All-Rookie Team (1975)

6× NBA rebounding leader (1979, 1981–1985)

NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

ABA All-Time Team

No. 2 retired by Philadelphia 76ers

No. 24 retired by Houston Rockets

Points 29,580 (20.6 ppg)

Rebounds 17,834 (12.2 rpg)

Blocks 1889 (1.3 bpg)


Moses was the GOAT at offensive rebounding



While your boy Kawhi HBK Is the GOAT of sitting out games and getting injured all the time.

kawhi has more finals MVPS and doubles his playoff VORP despite only playing about 700 more playoff minutes. 700 minutes is less then 1 title run worth, moses shouldn't be allowing kawhi to more double his VORP with that little minute difference. Kawhi is TIERS and TIERS ahead as far as players.

ShawkFactory
08-29-2021, 07:21 PM
What did Moses Malone ever do to be considered top 10? STUPID

Kawhi can retire right now and have a better career. Wait until I get back on my computer and compare their careers. No way Moses is better

Your dumbness never fails.

Keep doing you. I guess

1987_Lakers
08-29-2021, 07:23 PM
Kareem

kawhileonard2
08-29-2021, 08:07 PM
Bill Russell

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 08:07 PM
Your dumbness never fails.

Keep doing you. I guess

All you can do is insult and can never dispute any of my points cause you're a fu*king retard.

Kawhi has double the playoff VORP, more playoff win shares, better single season playoff run and he's about 1 season away from passing him in regular season VORP as well.

Moses isn't even in the same ballpark as Kawhi Leonard. That's like comparing charles barkley to michael jordan, even worse then that actually.

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 08:10 PM
Can you just **** off out of this thread HBK?



Nobody on this site gives a shit about MR Load management

rmt
08-29-2021, 08:34 PM
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=leonaka01&player_id2=malonmo01


Wow this is very embarrassing for Moses, i honestly thought it would be closer then this.

First lets take a look at regular season. Moses has a total of 5.0 career higher regular season VORP despite playing 31,419 more minutes! That's honestly insane, my jaw dropped. 5.0 VORP is like 1 season of VORP worth! This motherfuc*er is played 31k more minutes! 2k minutes is just a season. So Moses has to play 15 more seasons worth then Kawhi just to be barely beating. Kawhi barely even trying in regular season and still lapping this chump by 15 seasons worth of play! basketball reference completely shits on Moses compared to Kawhi.


Then in playoffs: Kawhi more then doubles Moses Malone's VORP at 12.2 compared to 5.4 and crushes him in win shares 22.5 compared to 14.8


I expected the playoffs but kawhi running laps around him in reg season for 15 seasons worth is embarrassing.

It's laughable when you talk about regular season where Kawhi is concerned and especially against someone who has THREE MVPs. You can trot out your VORP/advanced stats but what meaning is that compared to MVP - best player for a whole season - something Kawhi (at the rate he is going) will never get.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 08:42 PM
It's laughable when you talk about regular season where Kawhi is concerned and especially against someone who has THREE MVPs. You can trot out your VORP/advanced stats but what meaning is that compared to MVP - best player for a whole season - something Kawhi (at the rate he is going) will never get.

advanced stats = the facts

mvp = voting of rachael nichols

i still like my arguments. Kawhi should of won MVP in 2016, 2017, 2020 as well in my opinion.

2016 - his team had a better net rating then the 73 win warriors

2017 - #1 in RAPTOR and better then westbrook by anybody that's not a moron

2020 - played nearly the same total minutes as giannis but in the west and is just a better player

The media just doesn't like Kawhi, he should have 3 MVPS right now.

Anyways, kawhi's regular season stats still DESTROY moses malone stats even though he's coasting. That's pretty sad on Moses part actually.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-29-2021, 09:04 PM
rmt running away from me just like how Duncan ran away from mentioning Kawhi's name in his hall of fame speech. Should of choose swimming instead you geek. Only was a good player during the slow pace grind era 99-2005, you would get DESTROYED in today's spread out era. Duncan has also faced Lebron in 3 different finals and never won 1 finals MVP in any of them, he better not come up on this list before Kawhi does.

ELITEpower23
08-29-2021, 09:32 PM
Kareem at #3.

Bankaii
08-29-2021, 09:40 PM
Kareem.

jlip
08-29-2021, 09:41 PM
Russell

Ryoka Narusawa
08-29-2021, 10:00 PM
Bill russell celts legend

RRR3
08-29-2021, 10:06 PM
Kareem

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 10:34 PM
Wilt dominated 14 HOF Centers across 865 games to a clip of 25.7/22.4/4.3 on .54,6 shooting against them.


They averaged 18.9/14.3/2.9 on only .41.4 shooting against him!

Bankaii
08-29-2021, 10:35 PM
Russell just might be the most overrated player in NBA history.

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 10:41 PM
Russell just might be the most overrated player in NBA history.


If you took Rings away from the equation when ranking the top ten NBA players of all time.


I am not sure that Russell would still be ranked as a top ten player of all time.



Russell's offense was so non-existent.

He never finished in the top 5 in points/36 on his own team and spent over half his career outside the top 10, again on his own team (and they were only 12 player teams back then instead of 15 like now too!)


He had over 100 more defensive win shares than offensive because of just how little he contributed on that end which makes him essentially the defensive counterpart of Steve Nash, arguably the goat at orchestrating a top offence but has ~100 more offensive win shares than defensive because he was that lopsided.


Russell was certainly capable of contributing on offence as he was a decent passer out of the high post and could really run the floor, but he simply didn't play much on that end. He conserved energy on offence while his 6 HoF teammates handled everything so that he could pour his all into the defensive end.


He was an incredible player, but among comparable all-time great defenders he was much closer to a Draymond or Ben Wallace (mostly just defence) type role than a Duncan or Hakeem (also great offense).


The only argument for having Russell top 10 is the rings, but he had by far the most stacked team ever with literally half the roster being HoFers.

Reggie43
08-29-2021, 11:20 PM
The only thing Wilt has going for him is his inflated/stat padded era specific numbers. Are we supposed to be impressed with him having 20+ rebounds when they are years that had 3-4 guys averaging the same?

Put Wilt in the 90s with actual big man competition and he wouldnt stand out against other goat level centers like Olajuwon, Shaq, Robinson etc. Obviously he is at that tier but he wouldnt be able to separate himself from those guys.

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 11:34 PM
The only thing Wilt has going for him is his inflated/stat padded era specific numbers. Are we supposed to be impressed with him having 20+ rebounds when they are years that had 3-4 guys averaging the same?

Put Wilt in the 90s with actual big man competition and he wouldnt stand out against other goat level centers like Olajuwon, Shaq, Robinson etc. Obviously he is at that tier but he wouldnt be able to separate himself from those guys.

Wilt is one of two centers who held Kareem to sub 45% shooting, the other guy being Nate Thurmond.

And Wilt was old and playing on a previously shattered knee which was thought to be a career-ending injury back in the day.

In the 3 games Hakeem defended Kareem in 1985-86 regular season.

Kareem averaged 41 ppg on 67.5% fg against the Rockets. This was at age 39.

Kareem also destroyed a rookie Ewing by dropping 40 points on his head this was at age 40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jrbwaYMFI

Overdrive
08-29-2021, 11:36 PM
https://stathead.com/basketball/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1=leonaka01&player_id2=malonmo01


Wow this is very embarrassing for Moses, i honestly thought it would be closer then this.

First lets take a look at regular season. Moses has a total of 5.0 career higher regular season VORP despite playing 31,419 more minutes! That's honestly insane, my jaw dropped. 5.0 VORP is like 1 season of VORP worth! This motherfuc*er is played 31k more minutes! 2k minutes is just a season. So Moses has to play 15 more seasons worth then Kawhi just to be barely beating. Kawhi barely even trying in regular season and still lapping this chump by 15 seasons worth of play! basketball reference completely shits on Moses compared to Kawhi.


Then in playoffs: Kawhi more then doubles Moses Malone's VORP at 12.2 compared to 5.4 and crushes him in win shares 22.5 compared to 14.8


I expected the playoffs but kawhi running laps around him in reg season for 15 seasons worth is embarrassing.

Nobody gives AF about VORP. Kawhi isn't close to top 10 AT. If he's lucky he slides into top 20.

SouBeachTalents
08-29-2021, 11:42 PM
Nobody gives AF about VORP. Kawhi isn't close to top 10 AT. If he's lucky he slides into top 20.
At this rate he'll honestly be lucky to be top 30. I don't even know if he plays next season, and that's 3 seasons in the heart of his prime where his title favorite team didn't do shit

Reggie43
08-29-2021, 11:51 PM
Wilt is one of two centers who held Kareem to sub 45% shooting, the other guy being Nate Thurmond.

And Wilt was old and playing on a previously shattered knee which was thought to be a career-ending injury back in the day.

In the 3 games Hakeem defended Kareem in 1985-86 regular season.

Kareem averaged 41 ppg on 67.5% fg against the Rockets. This was at age 39.

Kareem also destroyed a rookie Ewing by dropping 40 points on his head this was at age 40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-jrbwaYMFI

Kareem almost doubled Wilts scoring on .463 fg% how did it suddenly become sub 45% or where you nitpicking specific games?

https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1=chambwi01&player_id2=abdulka01

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 11:54 PM
Kareem almost doubled Wilts scoring on .463 fg% how did it suddenly become sub 45% or where you nitpicking specific games?

https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1=chambwi01&player_id2=abdulka01



Wilt was very rarely outplayed by an opposing center in the playoffs.

IMHO, though, he was only statistically outplayed by a prime Kareem in the 71-72 WCF's, but, by virtually every account of those that witnessed that series, he outplayed Abdul-Jabbar.

As for the 71-72 WCF's Wilt held Kareem, who had shot .57.4 against the NBA during the regular season, to a .45.7 FG%.

Furthermore, over the course of the last four pivotal games of that series, he had reduced Kareem to a .41.4 FG%.

And he was 35 years old with bad knees think about that.

An old 35-year-old Wilt was shutting down Kareem and sending the skyhook back multiple times throughout the series.

The two also battled in the 70-71 WCF's, and here again, a prime Kareem, and a 34-year-old Wilt, only a year removed from major knee surgery, were a statistical wash.

BTW, Chamberlain held Kareem to FG%'s of .48.1 and .45.7 in those two series, in seasons in which Kareem shot .57.7 and .57.4. And he outrebounded Kareem in both, as well.

coastalmarker99
08-29-2021, 11:56 PM
Kareem almost doubled Wilts scoring on .463 fg% how did it suddenly become sub 45% or where you nitpicking specific games?

https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1=chambwi01&player_id2=abdulka01



Wilt was putting up these stat lines in the 1972 playoffs as a 35-year-old against a prime Kareem.


1972 Western Conference Finals Lakers VS Bucks

GAME 3 7 PTS 14 REBS 4 ASTS 9 BLKS

GAME 5 12 PTS 26 REBS 6 ASTS 11 BLKS

GAME 6 20 PTS 24 REBS 9 BLKS



I encourage you to watch these two videos down below of Wilt locking down Kareem.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz4d7R5-Esc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7baVV3CbQ&t=9s

coastalmarker99
08-30-2021, 12:03 AM
Kareem almost doubled Wilts scoring on .463 fg% how did it suddenly become sub 45% or where you nitpicking specific games?

https://stathead.com/basketball/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id1=chambwi01&player_id2=abdulka01




After being thoroughly outplayed by Kareem in the first 2 games of the 1972 WCF, Wilt took it up several notches on defence.


Chamberlain shut out Abdul-Jabbar in the last 11 minutes of Game 3, he blocked 33 shots in the last 4 games of the series and held the league MVP to a miserable .41.4 from the field.


The Big Dipper was clutch in the last 2 games of the series. In Game 5, he was 8-8 from the free throw line and Jerry West stated that Wilt's Game 6 performance was, "the greatest ballbusting performance I've ever seen."

HBK_Kliq_2
08-30-2021, 12:14 AM
Nobody gives AF about VORP. Kawhi isn't close to top 10 AT. If he's lucky he slides into top 20.

Playoff career win share per 48 kawhi is top 3 since 1960.

Your guys list is quickly turning into a joke. Kawhi is lapping Moses in advanced stats playoffs and has more finals mvp then him, he shouldn't be below that son of a bitch.

Eye test and advanced stats say kawhi is already a top 3 goat easily

Thenameless
08-30-2021, 12:17 AM
Playoff career win share per 48 kawhi is top 3 since 1960.

Your guys list is quickly turning into a joke. Kawhi is lapping Moses in advanced stats playoffs and has more finals mvp then him, he shouldn't be below that son of a bitch.

Eye test and advanced stats say kawhi is already a top 3 goat easily

No one's voting for a guy that's going to miss a lot of games again next season. It's over.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-30-2021, 12:20 AM
Nobody gives AF about VORP. Kawhi isn't close to top 10 AT. If he's lucky he slides into top 20.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_per_48_career_p.html

- top 3 career playoff win share per 48 since 1957

- eliminations of LeBron durant curry giannis the 4 other best players of his era and kawhi was always leading in at least one of minutes or points or GmSc

- 2 defensive player of the years

- 2 finals mvps stopping two different 3pears

- best scoring title run 732 points total and 62% TS

And he has also eliminated luka twice

Any team with kawhi should be the title favorite but their not necessarily all good enough. 2017 and 2021 he wins if not for getting cheap shot, 2020 he was thrown in the bubble, 2016 Duncan averaged 4 points

So he could have 4 or 5 rings if not for cheap shots and terrible play. He has never had below 10 playoff BPM since 2016 outside of the bubble.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-30-2021, 12:22 AM
No one's voting for a guy that's going to miss a lot of games again next season. It's over.

He has the two goat finals mvps stopping two 3peats and the greatest scoring title run in 2019. He already did it all and has 6-8 prime years left.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-30-2021, 12:22 AM
At this rate he'll honestly be lucky to be top 30. I don't even know if he plays next season, and that's 3 seasons in the heart of his prime where his title favorite team didn't do shit

Top 30 my ass, he's top 3.


- top 3 career playoff win share per 48 since 1957

- eliminations of LeBron durant curry giannis the 4 other best players of his era and kawhi was always leading in at least one of minutes or points or GmSc

- 2 defensive player of the years

- 2 finals mvps stopping two different 3pears

- best scoring title run 732 points total and 62% TS

And he has also eliminated luka twice

Any team with kawhi should be the title favorite but their not necessarily all good enough. 2017 and 2021 he wins if not for getting cheap shot, 2020 he was thrown in the bubble, 2016 Duncan averaged 4 points

So he could have 4 or 5 rings if not for cheap shots and terrible play. He has never had below 10 playoff BPM since 2016 outside of the bubble

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_per_48_career_p.html

Thenameless
08-30-2021, 12:25 AM
He has the two goat finals mvps stopping two 3peats and the greatest scoring title run in 2019. He already did it all and has 6-8 prime years left.

2 FMVP doesn't get it done on a GOAT resume. One needs a lot more. You'll see in the voting.

dankok8
08-30-2021, 12:26 AM
Wilt absolutely didn't outplay Kareem in the 1972 WCF's. He outplayed him in the 4th quarter of Game 6 which is what that famous news headline stated but over the entire series... no chance.

coastalmarker99
08-30-2021, 12:34 AM
Wilt absolutely didn't outplay Kareem in the 1972 WCF's. He outplayed him in the 4th quarter of Game 6 which is what that famous news headline stated but over the entire series... no chance.


I can agree with that.


For me



Wilt outplayed Russell in every single playoff series besides 1969.




And Kareem outplayed Wilt in 1971 and 1972 through Wilt put up one hell of a fight.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-30-2021, 12:40 AM
Kawhi also has more finals mvps on winning teams then jerry west and Moses Malone COMBINED.

If you prefer awards instead of advanced stats. Just saying, kawhi is clearly better then some of these guys like Duncan Moses jerry. In a couple years, I'm sure the adjustment will be made to edit kawhi in there.

HBK_Kliq_2
08-30-2021, 12:43 AM
I can agree with that.


For me



Wilt outplayed Russell in every single playoff series besides 1969.




And Kareem outplayed Wilt in 1971 and 1972 through Wilt put up one hell of a fight.

Wilt is another guy I don't think deseves top 10 because he's a choker and historic game 7 choker on multiple occasions. On top of that, wilt was 4th option scorer on his two championship teams. Always a choker like jerry west, thats why they both teamed up. Kawhi game 7 vs 76ers 2019 was superior over any wilt game 7 and any series from wilt i can think of.

coastalmarker99
08-30-2021, 12:46 AM
Wilt is another guy I don't think deseves top 10 because he's a choker and historic game 7 choker on multiple occasions. On top of that, wilt was 4th option scorer on his two championship teams. Always a choker like jerry west, thats why they both teamed up. Kawhi game 7 vs 76ers 2019 was superior over any wilt game 7 and any series from wilt i can think of.

Here are Wilt's full stat-lines in his 9 game sevens.


1962 vs Celtics 22 points and 22 rebounds to go along with 14 blocks.


1964 vs Hawks 39 points and 30 rebounds and 6 assists to go along with 12 blocks.


1965 vs Celtics 30 points (12-15 FG and 6/13 FT) to go along with 32 rebs, 2 assists 3 blocks


1968 vs Celtics 14 points (4-9FG and 6/15FT) to go along with 34 rebs 5 assists 12 blocks.


1969 vs Celtics 18 points(7-8 FG and 2/11FT) to go along 27 rebs 3 assists 10 blocks.


1970 vs Suns 30 pts (11-18 FG and 8/17FT) to go along with 27 rebs 6 assists 12 blks Game 7.


1970 vs New york 21pts)10-16 FG and 1/11 FT to go along with 24 rebounds and 4 assists.





1971 vs Bulls 25 pts( 7-12 FG and 11-17FT) to go along with 19 rebounds 9 assists and 11 blocks.


1973 vs Bulls 21pts(10-17 FG and 1-1 FT to go along with 28 rebounds 4 assists and 8 blocks.



Here are Wilt's game seven averages

4- 5 W-L record


24.4 ppg (Regular season career average was 30.1 ppg)

26.7 rpg(Regular season career average was 22.9 rpg)

4.1 APG(Regular season career average was 4.4 APG)

62.6 FG%,(Regular season career average was .54.0 FG%)

45.1 FT%(Regular season career average was .51.1 FT%)

57.9 TS%.Regular season career average was 54.9 TS%)




Also, the irony couldn't be more palpable about a Kawhi fanboy calling Wilt out for being a game seven choker.



Here are Kawhi's full game sevens stat-lines.



2013 vs Miami 19 points(8-17 FG and 2/4 FT) to go along with 16 rebounds to go along with 2 turnovers.


2014 vs Dallas 15 points)7-14 and 0/1 FT) to go along with 6 rebounds.


2015 vs Clippers 13 points(5-13 FG and 2/2 FT) to go along with 10 rebounds.


2019 vs 76ers 41 points) 16-39 FGA and 7/8FT) to go along with 8 rebounds and 3 steals plus 4 turnovers.


2020 vs Denver 14 points) 6-22 FGA and 0/0 FTA) to go along with 6 rebounds and 6 assists 2 steals and 1 block.


2021 vs Dallas 28 points) 10-15 FGA and 7/7 FTA to go along with 10 rebounds and 9 assists and 4 steals plus 1 block



Kawhi Leonard has averaged 21.7 points, 9.3 rebounds and 3.3 assists on 42 percent shooting and 25 percent shooting from three in 6 game sevens in his career.

dankok8
08-30-2021, 09:41 AM
Official Vote Tally

Wilt Chamberlain - 4 (coastalmarker99, Thenameless, L. Kizzle, warriorfan)
Bill Russell - 6 (Dbrog, dankok8, Reggie43, jlip, kawhileonard2, Ryoka Narusawa)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 11 (ChickStern, ClipperRevival, jstern, Overdrive, SouBeachTalents, Manny98, 8Ball, 1987_Lakers, Bankaii, ELITEpower23, RRR3)

Kareem won. Thread #4 is now open.