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coastalmarker99
08-30-2021, 08:52 PM
https://streamable.com/zy4ws9

coastalmarker99
08-30-2021, 08:56 PM
Giannis was in his playoff bag en route to his first title and FMVP award.


45% on two-point jumpers

49% from 10-15 feet

44% on fadeaways

58% on hook shots

Bronbron23
08-30-2021, 10:11 PM
Been warning people. Once he improves his mids and post moves a bit more it's over. He's gonna dominate this decade.

ELITEpower23
08-30-2021, 10:16 PM
https://streamable.com/zy4ws9

Great video thanks for sharing brochacho :cheers:

coastalmarker99
08-30-2021, 10:20 PM
Great video thanks for sharing brochacho :cheers:


It's no problem :cheers:

RRR3
08-30-2021, 11:31 PM
Been warning people. Once he improves his mids and post moves a bit more it's over. He's gonna dominate this decade.
Dominate how? He’s not winning any more rings with that current team it took an unprecedented number of injuries for him to win this year. If you mean continue to produce at a legendary level then yes obviously.

ralph_i_el
08-31-2021, 09:45 AM
Giannis' newfound short range finesse/fundamental moveset won me over this year. It used to be my opinion that his game was a gimmick.

GOBB
08-31-2021, 10:10 AM
Giannis was in his playoff bag en route to his first title and FMVP award.


45% on two-point jumpers

49% from 10-15 feet

44% on fadeaways

58% on hook shots

What are the attempts? % alone doesn’t really tell me much

tontoz
08-31-2021, 10:23 AM
What are the attempts? % alone doesn’t really tell me much

In the playoffs he took 6 shots per game from 3-16 feet shooting 48% from that range.

GOBB
08-31-2021, 10:44 AM
In the playoffs he took 6 shots per game from 3-16 feet shooting 48% from that range.

That’s better than I thought he did. The attempts adds a little more context. He was pretty bad from 3 and the charity stripe. To see this is a head scratcher.

tontoz
08-31-2021, 10:47 AM
That’s better than I thought he did. The attempts adds a little more context. He was pretty bad from 3 and the charity stripe. To see this is a head scratcher.

He's always sucked from 3 and really needs to stop shooting them.

The foul shooting is partially a mental thing. For his career he is 71% from the foul line in the regular season, 61% in the playoffs. The playoff pressure has thrown him off.

ShawkFactory
08-31-2021, 10:49 AM
In the playoffs he took 6 shots per game from 3-16 feet shooting 48% from that range.

3-16 doesn't really tell any sort of story about midrange game.

He's long enough to have a 4-5 footer be a layup. He was getting into the lane and hitting floaters and shit too.

True midrange would be 10-16

tontoz
08-31-2021, 11:00 AM
3-16 doesn't really tell any sort of story about midrange game.

He's long enough to have a 4-5 footer be a layup. He was getting into the lane and hitting floaters and shit too.

True midrange would be 10-16


He shot 49% from 10-16 feet FYI.

He needed to develop his game so he could still score when he couldn't get all the way to the rim. His inability to do so in previous years' playoffs made him a lot easier to defend.

Bronbron23
08-31-2021, 01:45 PM
Dominate how? He’s not winning any more rings with that current team it took an unprecedented number of injuries for him to win this year. If you mean continue to produce at a legendary level then yes obviously.

True injuries were a factor. He probably wouldn't have won without them but u could say the same for lots of champions. Thing is the only teams that were in his way and still are in his way is lakers and nets. Both teams are great but both teams are lead by older players who only have another year or 2 on top. Once that happens it's greeks turn because he's only getting better.

DoctorP
08-31-2021, 01:52 PM
:rockon: good stuff. yanni killed em.

RRR3
08-31-2021, 02:02 PM
True injuries were a factor. He probably wouldn't have won without them but u could say the same for lots of champions. Thing is the only teams that were in his way and still are in his way is lakers and nets. Both teams are great but both teams are lead by older players who only have another year or 2 on top. Once that happens it's greeks turn because he's only getting better.
No it’s not. The Bucks haven’t built a championship roster around him. Middleton isn’t a championship number two in a normal one. They’re not winning again with this core.

DoctorP
08-31-2021, 02:03 PM
No it’s not. The Bucks haven’t built a championship roster around him. Middleton isn’t a championship number two in a normal one. They’re not winning again with this core.

:roll:

tontoz
08-31-2021, 03:01 PM
Trivia question:

What team has won the most games over the last 3 years by a wide margin?

Bronbron23
08-31-2021, 03:15 PM
No it’s not. The Bucks haven’t built a championship roster around him. Middleton isn’t a championship number two in a normal one. They’re not winning again with this core.

I disagree plenty of teams won with a second option with similar impact as Middleton. When your first option is that good the second option dosn't have to be amazing. Mj won a few chips with pip playing not much better than Middleton. Bron won 2 with a declining wade playing similar to Middleton. Warriors in 15 and raps in 19 both had second options around the caliber of Middleton.

Again the only teams that are better is nets and lakers. Lakers are lead by a 37 year old who is in decline and nets are lead by a 33 year old with a repaired Achilles who will probably start significantly declining after this year. After that who's in his way?

tontoz
08-31-2021, 03:25 PM
I disagree plenty of teams won with a second option with similar impact as Middleton. When your first option is that good the second option dosn't have to be amazing. Mj won a few chips with pip playing not much better than Middleton. Bron won 2 with a declining wade playing similar to Middleton. Warriors in 15 and raps in 19 both had second options around the caliber of Middleton.

Again the only teams that are better is nets and lakers. Lakers are lead by a 37 year old who is in decline and nets are lead by a 33 year old with a repaired Achilles who will probably start significantly declining after this year. After that who's in his way?

Yeah Middleton averaged 24/8/5 in the playoffs and hit a lot of clutch shots. That is fine for a 2nd option next to a MVP caliber player.

Bronbron23
08-31-2021, 03:30 PM
Yeah Middleton averaged 24/8/5 in the playoffs and hit a lot of clutch shots. That is fine for a 2nd option next to a MVP caliber player.

Yeah man plus he's a solid defender. Along side an all time great he's a fine number 2

Jasper
08-31-2021, 11:27 PM
https://streamable.com/zy4ws9

I have seen this all of last season , while ISH fans diss'n him say he doesn't have anything.
His fade away is via Dirk.
His baseline turnaround is Ewing.
His tear drop is from Brogdon (when he was w/Milwaukee)
His jump hook is from Howard (when he was younger) as well as Shaq

Locked_Up_Tonight
09-01-2021, 08:36 PM
He shot 49% from 10-16 feet FYI.

He needed to develop his game so he could still score when he couldn't get all the way to the rim. His inability to do so in previous years' playoffs made him a lot easier to defend.

He had 429 field goal attempts in the playoffs.

He shot 58 shots from 10-16 all playoffs.
He shot 21 shots from 16-23 feet.
He shot 70 3 pointers
He had 70 dunks.
He had 193 shots between 0-3 feet.
He shot 87 times between 3-10 feet.

Nearly 2/3 of his shots were from inside 10 feet.

His percentage from midrange or long twos is pretty pedestrian given the lack of volume in the shot and the defense willing (daring him to shoot it when given the opportunity.....)

To put his percentage into perspective: if he missed two more jumpers with only 58 attempts, his field goal percentage drops from 49 to 45. And if he made two more jumpers, it climbs to 52%. Basically 2 made/miss is the difference fmo mediocre to great. Hence why it is not enough volume.

Jasper
09-02-2021, 10:40 AM
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32128701/skills-change-games-four-nba-stars-including-luka-doncic-giannis-antetokounmpo

this guys article appears he has never watched these guys play bball.
Giannis has a mid range jumper , but he could improve his free throw shooting.
As Barkley has stated Giannis should scrap the three point shot.