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Im so nba'd out
08-31-2021, 12:25 PM
Jordan stacked the deck unprovoked in the summer of 95.
Lebron stacked the deck in 2011 to compete with the Celtics having stacked up several hall of fame players.
Him going back to the cavs is not stacking the deck because kevin love is not good.....idgaf what yall say he's not good and that 8 ppg in the finals he averaged is just another reminder
Him going to the lakers with "muh young core" was also not stacking the deck
SaintzFury13
08-31-2021, 12:28 PM
Jordan stacked the deck unprovoked in the summer of 95.
Unprovoked?
He lost in the second round of the playoffs against the Magic who had his third best teammate during his first threepeat. It was clear at that point that he needed another big impactful player on the team. Hence, Dennis Rodman. And getting other guys like Ron Harper certainly helped.
Lebron stacked the deck in 2011 to compete with the Celtics having stacked up several hall of fame players.
Several hall of fame players who were starting to get out of their primes at that point. Make no mistake about it, the Celtics were still the team to beat in the NBA, but LeBron going to Miami had a lot more to do with the fact that no one was willing to go to Cleveland. Odds are though, with better coaching on Mike Browns part and Jaminson not playing like shit, Cleveland probably would have made it past Boston anyways.
Him going back to the cavs is not stacking the deck because kevin love is not good.....idgaf what yall say he's not good and that 8 ppg in the finals he averaged is just another reminder
Buddy, Kevin Love was concussed for most of that series and only played two full games. In his first game that series, he had 17 points and 13 rebounds. In his second full game, he had 9 points and 14 rebounds and locked down Curry in the final minute of the game. Those aren't bad games by any means.
We need to stop with this nonsense that Kevin Love wasn't a good player. He was absolutely a great player who was used very poorly by Blatt. In his first full season under Lue while being utilized in the post more, he averaged 19 PPG and 11 RPG as the third option and was an all star that season. Those are pretty ridiculous numbers for your third option.
tontoz
08-31-2021, 12:41 PM
Jordan stacked the deck unprovoked in the summer of 95.
Lebron stacked the deck in 2011 to compete with the Celtics having stacked up several hall of fame players.
Him going back to the cavs is not stacking the deck because kevin love is not good.....idgaf what yall say he's not good and that 8 ppg in the finals he averaged is just another reminder
Him going to the lakers with "muh young core" was also not stacking the deck
The Celtics only had one guy that was 3rd team All-NBA when they joined up. All 3 were 30+.
That isn't quite the same as two 1st team All-NBA guys in their 20s teaming up, then adding another All-Star in his prime.
FKAri
08-31-2021, 01:13 PM
Speaking of stacking, Tim Grover put MJ on a PED stack in the summer of 89. But an MJ fan I talked to told me that "he was the most competitive guy on the planet and competitive guys never break the rules. Especially when those rules are not strictly enforced". So maybe I'm wrong.
Bronbron23
08-31-2021, 01:40 PM
Jordan stacked the deck unprovoked in the summer of 95.
Lebron stacked the deck in 2011 to compete with the Celtics having stacked up several hall of fame players.
Him going back to the cavs is not stacking the deck because kevin love is not good.....idgaf what yall say he's not good and that 8 ppg in the finals he averaged is just another reminder
Him going to the lakers with "muh young core" was also not stacking the deck
At the time kevin love was definitely considered good if not very good. Playing with bron was a bad fit. He was put in a spot up shooter role which wasn't his game. He also lost alot of confidence during this time. I don't necessarily blame bron for all or evej most of that but saying love wasn't a good player is either ignorant as hell or your just trolling
The Celtics only had one guy that was 3rd team All-NBA when they joined up. All 3 were 30+.
That isn't quite the same as two 1st team All-NBA guys in their 20s teaming up, then adding another All-Star in his prime.
Sounds like you’re just mad LeBron did it better.
That’s what I hear from LeBron haters about Durant anyways. Let’s see some consistency.
Who was a former finals mvp by the time he went to south beach around ten years ago?
tontoz
08-31-2021, 04:24 PM
Sounds like you’re just mad LeBron did it better.
That’s what I hear from LeBron haters about Durant anyways. Let’s see some consistency.
The Boston big 3 were all on garbage teams. They didn't even have a chance to make the playoffs where they were. Their only chance to be on a contender was to team up.
Lebron left a team that had back to back 60 win seasons. Wade already had a ring at age 24. Lebron certainly had the right to leave as a free agent after 7 years but that wasn't a good look.
ArbitraryWater
08-31-2021, 04:25 PM
facts
The Boston big 3 were all on garbage teams. They didn't even have a chance to make the playoffs where they were. Their only chance to be on a contender was to team up.
Lebron left a team that had back to back 60 win seasons. Wade already had a ring at age 24. Lebron certainly had the right to leave as a free agent after 7 years but that wasn't a good look.
Those teams won 60+ games because of him you ****ing dunce. Shocking as it might seem LeBron is capable of dragging trash a lot further than KG Pierce and Allen are.
tontoz
08-31-2021, 04:54 PM
Those teams won 60+ games because of him you ****ing dunce. Shocking as it might seem LeBron is capable of dragging trash a lot further than KG Pierce and Allen are.
He had a lot of good role players around him, far more than Bostons guys had. Their teams were a combined 72 games under .500.
Lebron wasnt winning 60+ with the teams they had dumbass.
He had a lot of good role players around him, far more than Bostons guys had. Their teams were a combined 72 games under .500.
Lebron wasnt winning 60+ with the teams they had dumbass.
Those Cavs teams were dogshit you’re still having PTSD flashbacks from all the times LeBron destroyed the Wizards.
Manny98
08-31-2021, 05:26 PM
LeBron was the original colluder
I actually don't have a massive issue with superteams
Seeing two giants like the Nets and Lakers or the Cavs and Warriors make for a more interesting finals matchups than two non superteams like the Sun's and Bucks
However LeBron was the one that started the trend of forming superteams, he paved the way for every other superteam after 2010
tontoz
08-31-2021, 05:34 PM
Those Cavs teams were dogshit you’re still having PTSD flashbacks from all the times LeBron destroyed the Wizards.
I was following the Hawks back then dumbass. I lived in Atlanta for 12 years.
If LeBron was so great why did he feel the need to join the 2nd best player in the conference that was in his prime and already had a ring?
3ba11
08-31-2021, 06:22 PM
The 2010 Celtics were post-Garnett injury and weren't good anymore.. the Cavs were huge favorites against them.
If Lebron had stayed, the 11' Cavs were going to be league favorite for the 3rd year in a row, and would've added another good player just like 09' and 10'..
but Lebron jumped ship a year too early and ceded the organic ring to Dirk.. It's a shame because those Cavs had the reputed defense and organic chemistry needed to beat those Mavs.. Then Lebron could've brought stars to Cleveland to coattail more rings.. now THAT might've had a goat case.
kawhileonard2
08-31-2021, 10:34 PM
Lebron stacked the deck because he was afraid of Dwight Howard http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459570 and then Steph Curry and then Devin Booker.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?496549-Lebron-stacking-the-deck-in-2022-because-he-is-afraid-of-Devin-Booker
Jasper
08-31-2021, 11:17 PM
basically Lebron has a shit load of experience with his current team , but like last year the coach of LA will keep a
short leash on the players who play , and I would assume that his rotation will be about 7-8 players.
So a lot of what fans expect 'Melo , and others will play regular season , but see little if any play time during the playoffs.
Can't keep throwing old guys out there , and even expect a east coast team to not throw them under the bus with 20 something legs lmao about stacked ..
last time LA did it , Shaq , Malone and Payton went home early. :kobe:
Mr. Woke
09-01-2021, 11:25 AM
LeBron has never had the luxury of being gifted great teammates (like Magic, Bird, Kobe and MJ).
He has carved his own path and is brave enough to leave teams instead of being a one team sucker.
kawhileonard2
09-01-2021, 04:00 PM
LeBron has never had the luxury of being gifted great teammates (like Magic, Bird, Kobe and MJ).
He has carved his own path and is brave enough to leave teams instead of being a one team sucker.
Lebron has now played with 3 guys who won league mvp. No one else has ever done that.
He came into the league and already had an Allstate in Big Z and Carlos Boozer right away.
I was following the Hawks back then dumbass. I lived in Atlanta for 12 years.
If LeBron was so great why did he feel the need to join the 2nd best player in the conference that was in his prime and already had a ring?
And they still lost in their first year together lmfao.
Mask the Embiid
09-01-2021, 04:14 PM
its no stacking without stacking
Mr. Woke
09-01-2021, 04:58 PM
Lebron has now played with 3 guys who won league mvp. No one else has ever done that.
He came into the league and already had an Allstate in Big Z and Carlos Boozer right away.
When he played with Shaq and D Rose, they were both way past their MVP days.
Westbrook isn't an MVP level player anymore.
LeBron hate is a mental illness. You are seriously mentally ill.
kawhileonard2
09-02-2021, 08:49 AM
When he played with Shaq and D Rose, they were both way past their MVP days.
Westbrook isn't an MVP level player anymore.
LeBron hate is a mental illness. You are seriously mentally ill.
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and Rose was the same age as Durant when he was in Cleveland as Durant was in Golden State.
tontoz
09-02-2021, 09:06 AM
And they still lost in their first year together lmfao.
That was certainly an iconic moment. :oldlol:
Kobe only needed Pau to beat the Celtics. But that's not important.
Airupthere
09-02-2021, 10:39 AM
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and Rose was the same age as Durant when he was in Cleveland as Durant was in Golden State.
Magic won with an older Kareem. Why couldnt just make best of the pieces given to him?
3ba11
09-02-2021, 11:10 AM
When did Lebron prove that he can win without super-teams as the clear-cut top producer?
ultimately, he only learned to team-hop and never learned to WIN (organic), which requires adjusting one's game to teammates and developing team strategy and identity over numerous years.. Lebron skipped this organic process and formed super-teams that were favorites in Year 1 of existence (easiest path possible)..
So he's a complete fraud that formed super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams like Dwight were winning - that's the definition of manufacturing a resume.. But the Finals exposed his brand of basketball and a loser on the championship level.
8Ball
09-02-2021, 11:23 AM
When did Lebron prove that he can win without super-teams as the clear-cut top producer?
ultimately, he only learned to team-hop and never learned to WIN (organic), which requires adjusting one's game to teammates and developing team strategy and identity over numerous years.. Lebron skipped this organic process and formed super-teams that were favorites in Year 1 of existence (easiest path possible)..
So he's a complete fraud that formed super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams like Dwight were winning - that's the definition of manufacturing a resume.. But the Finals exposed his brand of basketball and a loser on the championship level.
Wrong.
Bron's better than Jordan.
https://i.ibb.co/XCD6m9n/3-Ball-Le-Bron-is-the-GOAT.png
Gohan
09-02-2021, 12:46 PM
Kobe only needed Pau to beat the Celtics. But that's not important.
Dont tell em the truth lebron fans only comprehend lies
Derka
09-02-2021, 12:57 PM
The Celtics stacked up three old f*cking men that were able to cobble it together for one good run. That 2010 team that sent Lebron running to Miami was beat to shit and KG was dragging his damn leg up the court.
Airupthere
09-02-2021, 01:37 PM
The Celtics stacked up three old f*cking men that were able to cobble it together for one good run. That 2010 team that sent Lebron running to Miami was beat to shit and KG was dragging his damn leg up the court.
This. That Celtics is never mentioned alongside other dynasties. And yet, it was enough for Lebron to take superteaming into another level in 2011.
Mr. Woke
09-02-2021, 10:50 PM
Shaq won allstar mvp the year before and Rose was the same age as Durant when he was in Cleveland as Durant was in Golden State.
Shaq was clearly past his prime by that point. Rose was clearly not the same as before (due to injuries).
You are a disingenuous idiot.
Kenny Griffin
09-02-2021, 10:55 PM
kobe with just one other star beat a team with 4 stars in 2010
you dont have to cheat to win
ELITEpower23
09-02-2021, 10:57 PM
kobe with just one other star beat a team with 4 stars in 2010
you dont have to cheat to win
How are you still here?
https://i.postimg.cc/mD5fKV5V/KenGriffDurstBye.png
That was certainly an iconic moment. :oldlol:
I mean his haters still bring that up (2011) until now, after all.
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