Vaccine side effects and long term studies

[Doomsday Dallas]

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900 Moderna Shots administered.

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3 paralyzed



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[ShawkFactory]

mRNA therapy isn't genetic modification. At least not in theory.

Of course something without extensive trials is always going to be a little bit iffy, and I understand why someone would be skeptical and want to learn more before subjecting their body to this. But I struggle to take a (supposed) doctor seriously who doesn't seem to understand the basics of what we're dealing with.

[Doomsday Dallas]

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Dr. Charles Hoffe found 62% percent of patients who received COVID mRNA jab test positive for blood clots...'The concern...is those people will probably all develop right-sided heart failure within three years and die because they now have increased vascular resistance through their lungs. A Canadian doctor demands further study into the link between Covid-19 vaccines and blood clots after his research found clots in a majority of vaccinated patients, some of whom he says could be dead within three years. During a Zoom meeting with other medical professionals, Dr. Charles Hoffe explained he’s been running a study on recently vaccinated patients, having them take D-dimer blood tests to determine whether they have blood clots. “So far I’ve got 62 percent positive elevated D-dimer, which means that the blood clots are not rare,” Hoffe informed fellow physicians. “That’s what the so-called experts keep telling us: ‘The clots are rare.’ The big ones are rare, but the small ones are clearly happening in the majority of people, 62 percent.”

[ShawkFactory]

Very interesting.

Nothing here remotely related to genetic modification (yes I watched the entire thing), but interesting nonetheless.

Positive D dimer tests can be caused by a vast array of things, including general capillary malfunction. If someone is seeking medical attention..well it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility for their to be vascular issues for a lot of them.

Given the talking points discussed in his article (and various responses to it) and the peculiar circumstances surrounding this guy, I think it's best to save judgement. Although this is certainly something worth looking in to.

[Doomsday Dallas]

Dr. Charles Hoffe is the second doctor I've referenced on this forum:

Here is the other: Dr. Ryan Cole

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[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJGc8wOUWk8

9:25 - 9:40

"Stop and think about what we are doing, Insanity!, we need to stop the insanity immediately, this is over, game over, this has no longer been science. This is a poisonous attack on our population and it needs to stop now"

...... and the crowd gave an applause.

[Axe]

This is paranoia.

[Manny98]

This is paranoia.

Wearing a mask everywhere you and getting multiple shots every couple of months is paranoia

[ShawkFactory]

Dr. Charles Hoffe is the second doctor I've referenced on this forum:

Here is the other: Dr. Ryan Cole

https://i1.wp.com/thecrankycreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/dr-ryan-white-coat-summit-covid-vaccines-dangerous.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJGc8wOUWk8

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There’s a LOT wrong with this one. Hoffe’s was more legitimate in my eyes

[Doomsday Dallas]

There’s a LOT wrong with this one. Hoffe’s was more legitimate in my eyes

Here's the problem Mr. ShawkFactory, if there are multiple deaths from Covid vaccines in the near future... what do you think will get the blame?

It's not going to be like it was with the actual virus... where if anybody died for whatever reason, they blamed it on Covid19 to rack up those numbers.

Now if anybody who's been vaccinated dies from heart attack, stroke, cancer, you name it... there will undoubtedly be no correlation to the vaccine.

You get the vaccine and die from a stroke 3, 5, or 7 years later... you think they will connect the dots to the vaccine if there actually was a link? Never... and that's basically Dr. Cole's point.

You're not going to find anything negative about the vaccine if you're not looking for it... and that's what's happening. It's an experimental vaccine, we should be keeping record every possible negative side effect that exists... instead we get censorship and ridicule if we find anything negative.

[ShawkFactory]

Here's the problem Mr. ShawkFactory, if there are multiple deaths from Covid vaccines in the near future... what do you think will get the blame?

It's not going to be like it was with the actual virus... where if anybody died for whatever reason, they blamed it on Covid19 to rack up those numbers.

Now if anybody who's been vaccinated dies from heart attack, stroke, cancer, you name it... there will undoubtedly be no correlation to the vaccine.

You get the vaccine and die from a stroke 3, 5, or 7 years later... you think they will connect the dots to the vaccine if there actually was a link? Never... and that's basically Dr. Cole's point.

You're not going to find anything negative about the vaccine if you're not looking for it... and that's what's happening. It's an experimental vaccine, we should be keeping record every possible negative side effect that exists... instead we get censorship and ridicule if we find anything negative.

I have absolutely no issue with skepticism regarding this. You won’t find me spewing liberal talking points and calling you or whoever else is skeptical a conspiracy theorist. Unless the science is shoddy (which Dr Cole barely even attempts to throw legitimate science in his argument), I am willing to listen.

The issue with him is he’s coming from the POV of a skeptic, and somebody who wants people to know about it too. You can say “what if” about literally anything in science. That’s the entire point if it. But the fact that a dude who apparently has a solid portion of his revenue now coming from COVID testing and alternative treatment comes with this stance? Sorry I don’t buy the “I just care about humanity“ persona. It’s a talking point, and it’s response to the other side.

There’s nothing to back up the connections he attempts to make. They’re enormous leaps.

Whatever Dr Hoffe has worked on should be addressed IMO. Dr Cole is saying “they told us this” without anything actual to the contrary. Yet

[Jasper]

Wearing a mask everywhere you and getting multiple shots every couple of months is paranoia

every couple months ?????????????
dude I thought you were smart.:banghead:

[oldtimer28]

There’s nothing to back up the connections he attempts to make. They’re enormous leaps.

Whatever Dr Hoffe has worked on should be addressed IMO. Dr Cole is saying “they told us this” without anything actual to the contrary. Yet

That's the whole point. The scientific process has been killed by censorship and mobs shouting anyone down who don't drink thee Kool aid...

[ZenMaster]

Here's the problem Mr. ShawkFactory, if there are multiple deaths from Covid vaccines in the near future... what do you think will get the blame?

It's not going to be like it was with the actual virus... where if anybody died for whatever reason, they blamed it on Covid19 to rack up those numbers.

Now if anybody who's been vaccinated dies from heart attack, stroke, cancer, you name it... there will undoubtedly be no correlation to the vaccine.

You get the vaccine and die from a stroke 3, 5, or 7 years later... you think they will connect the dots to the vaccine if there actually was a link? Never... and that's basically Dr. Cole's point.

You're not going to find anything negative about the vaccine if you're not looking for it... and that's what's happening. It's an experimental vaccine, we should be keeping record every possible negative side effect that exists... instead we get censorship and ridicule if we find anything negative.

Great post!

[ShawkFactory]

That's the whole point. The scientific process has been killed by censorship and mobs shouting anyone down who don't drink thee Kool aid...

My point is that just saying that the vaccine could cause issues and they're trying to silence us, it doesn't make the person clearly trying to get notoriety by saying it legitimate either. Just as easily could be a talking point to validate and then rouse up the people who don't want to take the vaccine and/or be told what to do.

If legitimate connections can be made then by all means, they should and will be analyzed to find solutions (unless you truly believe that the government is trying to cull; in which case this discussion is pointless). If it's obviously not legitimate...then STFU.

I'm on board with checking in to possible negative side effects and know that there are a lot of people who are going to be wanting to cover their ass if anything turns up. But I don't trust guys like Dr. Cole whatsoever either. Seems like an opportunist to me :confusedshrug:

[bladefd]

My point is that just saying that the vaccine could cause issues and they're trying to silence us, it doesn't make the person clearly trying to get notoriety by saying it legitimate either. Just as easily could be a talking point to validate and then rouse up the people who don't want to take the vaccine and/or be told what to do.

If legitimate connections can be made then by all means, they should and will be analyzed to find solutions (unless you truly believe that the government is trying to cull; in which case this discussion is pointless). If it's obviously not legitimate...then STFU.

I'm on board with checking in to possible negative side effects and know that there are a lot of people who are going to be wanting to cover their ass if anything turns up. But I don't trust guys like Dr. Cole whatsoever either. Seems like an opportunist to me :confusedshrug:

It is for people who are already down the rabbit hole & believe these vaccines are more dangerous and causing more deaths than covid itself. The official term is confirmation bias.

The people who take this as fact were most likely never going to get the vaccine in the first place. There will be a subset of population that will be impossible to get to even after 3 years. They will simply ask for even longer term study after 3yrs. If not that then they will jump in 3yrs to the next conspiracy that covid never was real or was a stepping ground towards chipping everyone for a world takeover in the works. You will never get to them no matter what you do.

[ZenMaster]

It is for people who are already down the rabbit hole & believe these vaccines are more dangerous and causing more deaths than covid itself. The official term is confirmation bias.

The people who take this as fact were most likely never going to get the vaccine in the first place. There will be a subset of population that will be impossible to get to even after 3 years. They will simply ask for even longer term study after 3yrs. If not that then they will jump in 3yrs to the next conspiracy that covid never was real or was a stepping ground towards chipping everyone for a world takeover in the works. You will never get to them no matter what you do.

It's like the time you thought that if Trump would just lose, then everyone would realize how bad he is.


It is very much possible they could lose both Senate and the White House.. I can almost guarantee they will all disavow Trump and turn on him if they lose the election, and we will be hearing lots of anger & comments of how they never supported or voted for Trump. Most Republican will say they never supported or voted for Trump as if Trump was voted in by magic

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?481566-The-Russia-bounty-on-US-soldiers/page5

You were wrong then as well as now.

[bladefd]

It took folks a year or so to completely disavow Bush after his 2nd term ended. Hold your horses. These things take time. Quite a few of his supporters are still thinking that Trump is still waiting to take the presidency. Let them get out of the denial stage and realize that the 2020 election is truly over. Then we will see how long the Trump train remains.

Watch for the mid-terms too. Trump will be campaigning to endorse quite a few of his biggest supporters to senate/house. If those candidates don't do well, they will begin to turn on Trump.

[Patrick Chewing]

It took folks a year or so to completely disavow Bush after his 2nd term ended. Hold your horses. These things take time. Quite a few of his supporters are still thinking that Trump is still waiting to take the presidency. Let them get out of the denial stage and realize that the 2020 election is truly over. Then we will see how long the Trump train remains.

Watch for the mid-terms too. Trump will be campaigning to endorse quite a few of his biggest supporters to senate/house. If those candidates don't do well, they will begin to turn on Trump.

Here's an early prediction. Republicans take the House and the Senate in 2022 and Trump wins in 2024. And you will continue to cry.

[diamenz]

Here's an early prediction. Republicans take the House and the Senate in 2022 and Trump wins in 2024. And you will continue to cry.

as of right now that's looking to be the case. a rasmussen poll (right leaning but most accurate from 2020 out of all of em) from just a week or so ago had trump winning by a fairly large margin if the erection were held today.

...and that's the hard part. the house and or senate swing is usually automatic come midterms.

[Axe]

Here's an early prediction. Republicans take the House and the Senate in 2022 and Trump wins in 2024. And you will continue to cry.
By that time, trump will be almost 80 years and will be wearing diapers specifically made for geriatrics.

[Doomsday Dallas]

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[Doomsday Dallas]

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[Cleverness]

By that time, trump will be almost 80 years and will be wearing diapers specifically made for geriatrics.

Would Trump use the leftover ones from the Biden admin? That could turn into a big story.