Muscle Mass in the 80/90s - Physicality Exaggerated

[Nowitness]

Old heads, MJ fanboys and modern haters love to hype up the 'physicality' of the 80s/90s, but really there was none. Confusing physical play and dirty play is idiotic af. Just look at these dudes below, they were considered stars/key pieces.

The lack of definition and muscle mass is hilarious. MJ literally had to 'bulk' to 210 to absorb the punishment dished by Bill Laimbeer

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[Nowitness]

Meanwhile a player like Curry is considered small and weak. Dude looks like an animal compared to those above.

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MJ not only never played against complex defenses, but also played against small men.

[Phoenix]

Anyone recall the good ole days when troll threads were actually endearing and took some level of effort?

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[Nowitness]

Anyone recall the good ole days when troll threads were actually endearing and took some level of effort?

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Going to the top of the food chain proves my point. Show me one player today who doesn't have muscle mass, because I can easily find dudes bigger and stronger than those you posted.

It's like when MJ fans claim the 90s was elite because of the top 6/7 players. When in reality, Cedric Ceballos was once considered the 15th best player in the league. Nowadays the 15th best player is someone like Jimmy Butler/Chris Paul/Tatum/Lillard

[Phoenix]

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Mugsy has more muscle in his pinky than Durant :roll:

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[Phoenix]

Going to the top of the food chain proves my point. Show me one player today who doesn't have muscle mass, because I can easily find dudes bigger and stronger than those you posted.

It's like when MJ fans claim the 90s was elite because of the top 6/7 players. When in reality, Cedric Ceballos was once considered the 15th best player in the league. Nowadays the 15th best player is someone like Jimmy Butler/Chris Paul/Tatum/Lillard

Slow day at the office? You went to the bottom of the food chain ( Bol, Bradley) acting like those players are representative of the era. Like I said, weak era for trolls.

Second, this is basketball, not the NFL. Are you arguing that being more densely muscular makes one a better player? How many of the top players today are muscle freaks? You See Durant above? What about Harden? Seen him? You seen Luka? Joker, this years MVP?

Go out for some air.

[Nowitness]

Slow day at the office? You went to the bottom of the food chain ( Bol, Bradley) acting like those players are representative of the era. Like I said, weak era for trolls.

Second, this is basketball, not the NFL. Are you arguing that being more densely muscular makes one a better player? How many of the top players today are muscle freaks? You See Durant above? What about Harden? Seen him? You seen Luka? Joker, this years MVP?

Go out for some air.

I'm saying the thought that the NBA was more physical back in the day is a lie. I'm not talking about the alpha dogs, I'm saying routinely MJ was playing against/being guarded by dudes who looked like they bagged groceries. They weren't athletes. Every player nowadays, even scrubs are more physically imposing.

MJ bulking to 210 to absorb punishment is laughable.

[Phoenix]

I'm saying the thought that the NBA was more physical back in the day is a lie. I'm not talking about the alpha dogs, I'm saying routinely MJ was playing against/being guarded by dudes who looked like they bagged groceries. They weren't athletes. Every player nowadays, even scrubs are more physically imposing.

MJ bulking to 210 to absorb punishment is laughable.

The rules allowed for more physical contact then. Players today overall, from alpha to scrub, may be across the board more muscular but the rules don't allow them the same degree of physicality, so your point is moot. Also, not every player today is physically imposing. There's nothing imposing about guys like Joker, Durant, and Harden. That's 3 of your top 6 or 7 right there. You can make a point without going to dumb extremes.

[iamgine]

Physicality and strength has little to do with muscle mass. Look at Jokic, he's looks like a blob of fat but he's freakishly strong.

[Kblaze8855]

Muscle mass?

Have you ever been around actual conflict? It doesn’t matter how much protein you stuff down your throat to help build muscle if you won’t do anything with it.

Bill Laimbeer will actually put his knuckles on your jawline:


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A lot of those guys would actually fight and knock your head off:


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You could realistically be taken down and beaten back then:



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These guys today working on core strength to avoid injury and finish and 1s. Those guys would actually walk over and put hands on you trying to do damage before security arrives not shove and hope it gets broken up.

The people you posted actually got into fights. Shawn Bradley got actually punched in the face by Walt Williams and scooped and slammed by I think Mark Davis. Manute Bol got in 2 fights I can remember. They were hilarious and somehow even with an 8foot 6 wingspan his punch was dodged but they fought for real.

It was considerably more physical even if the players doing it had less muscle. Most of the guys today have muscle they won’t use. Not nearly as dangerous as someone who wants to actually hurt you with what they have.

[tpols]

I'm saying the thought that the NBA was more physical back in the day is a lie. I'm not talking about the alpha dogs, I'm saying routinely MJ was playing against/being guarded by dudes who looked like they bagged groceries. They weren't athletes. Every player nowadays, even scrubs are more physically imposing.

MJ bulking to 210 to absorb punishment is laughable.

First off you only showed the skinniest guys. If I shown you Durant, Ingram and Delladova would that paint today? Anybody could see dozens of top players were roided up in the 90s. Rudy Gobert pastry sweet ass is the most intimidating rim defender today back then you had Ewing, Hakeem, Robinson, Zo, Shaq, Mutumbo etc.

And also, physicality isn't just how big you are. Its about how hard you're allowed to hit. If Charles Oakley is allowed to slam you at 90% with no flagrant back then, it wouldn't work today. He'd either have to hit softer or get thrown out of games. They have the game under a microscope with reviews.

[Wally450]

Going to the top of the food chain proves my point. Show me one player today who doesn't have muscle mass, because I can easily find dudes bigger and stronger than those you posted.

It's like when MJ fans claim the 90s was elite because of the top 6/7 players. When in reality, Cedric Ceballos was once considered the 15th best player in the league. Nowadays the 15th best player is someone like Jimmy Butler/Chris Paul/Tatum/Lillard

Literally the reigning MVP of the league.

[Nowitness]

Muscle mass?

Have you ever been around actual conflict? It doesn’t matter how much protein you stuff down your throat to help build muscle if you won’t do anything with it.

Bill Laimbeer will actually put his knuckles on your jawline:


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A lot of those guys would actually fight and knock your head off:


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You could realistically be taken down and beaten back then:



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These guys today working on core strength to avoid injury and finish and 1s. Those guys would actually walk over and put hands on you trying to do damage before security arrives not shove and hope it gets broken up.

The people you posted actually got into fights. Shawn Bradley got actually punched in the face by Walt Williams and scooped and slammed by I think Mark Davis. Manute Bol got in 2 fights I can remember. They were hilarious and somehow even with an 8foot 6 wingspan his punch was dodged but they fought for real.

It was considerably more physical even if the players doing it had less muscle. Most of the guys today have muscle they won’t use. Not nearly as dangerous as someone who wants to actually hurt you with what they have.

:roll: Look at 'big' Bill punching. Throwing a punch doesn't make you a fighter, but you're again proving my point.

Dirty play doesn't equate to physicals play.

[ArbitraryWater]

Muscle mass?

Have you ever been around actual conflict? It doesn’t matter how much protein you stuff down your throat to help build muscle if you won’t do anything with it.

Bill Laimbeer will actually put his knuckles on your jawline:


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A lot of those guys would actually fight and knock your head off:


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You could realistically be taken down and beaten back then:



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These guys today working on core strength to avoid injury and finish and 1s. Those guys would actually walk over and put hands on you trying to do damage before security arrives not shove and hope it gets broken up.

The people you posted actually got into fights. Shawn Bradley got actually punched in the face by Walt Williams and scooped and slammed by I think Mark Davis. Manute Bol got in 2 fights I can remember. They were hilarious and somehow even with an 8foot 6 wingspan his punch was dodged but they fought for real.

It was considerably more physical even if the players doing it had less muscle. Most of the guys today have muscle they won’t use. Not nearly as dangerous as someone who wants to actually hurt you with what they have.


what does fighting have to do with physicality or the play itself?

[Kblaze8855]

Fighting doesn’t make you a fighter but eating right and wanting to put on muscle makes you physical…..

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I suppose that isn’t physical since it’s dirty?

What do you call it when someone clips you midair or hits you in the neck if not physical?

A mental attack?

[rawimpact]

There is no question the 90s was more physical and players were beefier for it.

The pictures proven are either pure shooters or centers that were in the league because of their height.

[Phoenix]

Physicality and strength has little to do with muscle mass. Look at Jokic, he's looks like a blob of fat but he's freakishly strong.

As is Luka, he's a bull.

[Kblaze8855]

what does fighting have to do with physicality or the play itself?

The fights obviously show who is a greater physical threat regardless of weight training or nutrition. Not that the game action wasn’t more physical either….




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Nothing like that will happen to Steph his entire career. Nothing that blatantly dirty.

You play the 92 Knicks at least 3 people on that team are perfectly willing to try to hurt you. That just isn’t a normal part of the game right now. Watch the Knicks and bulls in the playoffs in the 90s….it was. Call it better or worse….it was part of the game.

[Nowitness]

Love how no one is commenting on Curry, who is considered one of the weaker players in the league looks superhuman compared to 80s guards.

[tpols]

Love how no one is commenting on Curry, who is considered one of the weaker players in the league looks superhuman compared to 80s guards.

Curry isn't mean though. He's a nice friendly guy. Show me curry doing a hard foul please? It doesn't exist. Karl Malone used to lay guys out and put then in the hospital. And he was bigger than anybody today.

[Bronbron23]

Old heads, MJ fanboys and modern haters love to hype up the 'physicality' of the 80s/90s, but really there was none. Confusing physical play and dirty play is idiotic af. Just look at these dudes below, they were considered stars/key pieces.

The lack of definition and muscle mass is hilarious. MJ literally had to 'bulk' to 210 to absorb the punishment dished by Bill Laimbeer

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/aa/33/55aa33285936663595fbd2d99db3e904.jpg

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What an idiot. This guy uses the rare skinny cases from the 90's or bottom of the food chain if that sounds better. Where are the great teams now that had players the size of the knicks? Even the use of reggie miller is showing low iq. He was backed by the davis boys.

[Phoenix]

Love how no one is commenting on Curry, who is considered one of the weaker players in the league looks superhuman compared to 80s guards.

Steph hasn't played close to a full season in 5 years. What has his physique done for his durability? Nothing about his game is rooted in any kind of physicality so whatever point you've deluded yourself into thinking you have is just sinking further into the mud.

[Phoenix]

What an idiot. This guy uses the rare skinny cases from the 90's or bottom of the food chain if that sounds better. Where are the great teams now that had players the size of the knicks? Even the use of reggie miller is showing low iq. He was backed by the davis boys.

As I said, the trolls around here used to have *some* standard years ago.

[Kblaze8855]

Love how no one is commenting on Curry, who is considered one of the weaker players in the league looks superhuman compared to 80s guards.

Kevin Willis looked superhuman compared to 80s guards and Isiah Thomas still jumped on his back for a rear naked choke and Danny Ainge bit off part of Tree Rollins finger after scooping him to the ground. Steph can lift all the weights he wants….he is not the kind of physical a lot of guys back then were.

Unbelievably skilled player but he will never be in a league where this is normal day to day gameplay:

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and we will never have to see him:


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in response.


The physical…confrontational aspect?

Its pretty much gone. You can call it better or worse. It’s a fact. They wanted it out and they got it. These guys are almost all friendly now. Their muscles aren’t to be physical with each other in any kind of aggressive way.

Steph isn’t lifting weights to hurt anyone or play physical basketball.

[Bronbron23]

Love how no one is commenting on Curry, who is considered one of the weaker players in the league looks superhuman compared to 80s guards.

No he isn't. There's plenty of smaller gaurds than curry now. That said it's true gaurds are bigger than they've ever been but all other positions are shorter and lighter. The reason why gaurds are bigger and everyone else is smaller than the past is because of the rules and style of play.

You don't know what your talking about dude.

[Bronbron23]

As I said, the trolls around here used to have *some* standard years ago.

Yeah man these clowns been losing it lately

[Mauzah]

http://notsportscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/LeBronFlop.jpg

[Airupthere]

http://notsportscenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/LeBronFlop.jpg

Lol, what use are muscles if you're only using them to flop?

[Mr. Woke]

On average, players in the modern era have more muscle mass and are better athletes than players from previous eras.

The physicality of the game has never really changed. And no, cherrypicked skirmishes don't prove anything.

[Bronbron23]

On average, players in the modern era have more muscle mass and are better athletes than players from previous eras.

The physicality of the game has never really changed. And no, cherrypicked skirmishes don't prove anything.

This factually not true buddy https://runrepeat.com/height-evolution-in-the-nba like most bron stans you don't wtf your talking about

[Mr. Woke]

This factually not true buddy https://runrepeat.com/height-evolution-in-the-nba like most bron stans you don't wtf your talking about

Wrong.

Why are Jordan Jockers so insecure and full of shit?

[Bronbron23]

Wrong.

Why are Jordan Jockers so insecure and full of shit?

So the facts are wrong and full of shit? Nice buddy:facepalm

[warriorfan]

Love how no one is commenting on Curry, who is considered one of the weaker players in the league looks superhuman compared to 80s guards.

Curry could deadlift more than anyone on the Warriors except Festus Ezeli.

https://i.postimg.cc/PJXhnRyP/C84-C0-ACD-F960-4-E1-E-80-F8-C5-CED380-D3-DB.jpg

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/stephen-curry-can-deadlift-400-pounds/amp/

[SATAN]

Brilliant thread, OP. :oldlol:

[Mr. Woke]

So the facts are wrong and full of shit? Nice buddy:facepalm

Your opinion doesn't equal facts.

[Bronbron23]

Your opinion doesn't equal facts.

I gave u the facts in the article. Not my opinion at all. The denial is strong with this one:facepalm

[Mr. Woke]

I gave u the facts in the article. Not my opinion at all. The denial is strong with this one:facepalm

Flawed stats don't count.

[Kblaze8855]

I gave u the facts in the article. Not my opinion at all. The denial is strong with this one:facepalm

Flagrant fouls didn’t even exist till the 90s. Guys are literally ejected for fouls that had no additional penalty for 45 years. Added to that they enforced or created rules they acknowledged were for reducing physical play….. but the game is just as physical….

You can’t do anything with willful ignorance.

[meat]

Flawed stats don't count.

That was actually a very interesting and comprehensive article. Did you you even read it?

[Bronbron23]

Flawed stats don't count.

Flawed stats? It's scientific data:facepalm

[Bronbron23]

Flagrant fouls didn’t even exist till the 90s. Guys are literally ejected for fouls that had no additional penalty for 45 years. Added to that they enforced or created rules they acknowledged were for reducing physical play….. but the game is just as physical….

You can’t do anything with willful ignorance.

Yeah man it's just denial at this point

[FKAri]

This factually not true buddy https://runrepeat.com/height-evolution-in-the-nba like most bron stans you don't wtf your talking about

What does this have to do with athleticism?

[Mauzah]

Flawed stats don't count.

Typical Bronstan, even with empirical data thrown in his face he still can't come to terms with the truth :roll:

[CountDracula]

Joe Ingles highest ppg 12.1! Jeff Hornacek’s highest ppg 20.1!

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[Locked_Up_Tonight]

OP:

You should be banned from this site and stripped of your name with this idiotic take.

Do you not remember Dirk having to get his shoulder constantly worked on because of Karl Malone?

“The shoulder popped a little bit,” said Nowitzki, who scored 18 points on 7-of-13 shooting in 27 minutes against the Pelicans. “I’ve had it ever since Karl Malone hacked me in ’99. The shoulder sometimes just comes in and out a little bit, but it tingles for just a couple of minutes. I walked it off in the tunnel and was able to finish the game.

“But it happened a good 20 times already over my career, so it’s going to keep happening here and there.”

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Or how about him getting his teeth knocked out in the playoffs?

Dirk Nowitzki on his frequent issues with his teeth and oral surgery: “My whole front is fake now … I got hit a couple of times. Here was the dilemma. You know I had rabbit teeth when I first came over. The first two were a little bit longer than the rest, so here’s what happened: So then you get those two knocked in, right, am I going to say, ‘Ok, put those same rabbit teeth back in?’ No. Let’s make them better. So then, I had a bridge, which was the front four, and you just shave the four down and put a bridge over it, and then a couple years ago, that bridge got hit over and over and over again, so then the teeth under the bridge were cracked, so it didn’t hold them any more. It could have gone out at any time, so I didn’t have any front four, so then I had to opt for the implants. There was really a year—and it started that year in the playoffs in San Antonio—after every season I had to have oral surgery for like 3-4 years … Other people have like knees and stings, and I had mouth surgery for like five years for sure.”

[Thenameless]

Going to the top of the food chain proves my point. Show me one player today who doesn't have muscle mass, because I can easily find dudes bigger and stronger than those you posted.

It's like when MJ fans claim the 90s was elite because of the top 6/7 players. When in reality, Cedric Ceballos was once considered the 15th best player in the league. Nowadays the 15th best player is someone like Jimmy Butler/Chris Paul/Tatum/Lillard

No, you cannot "easily find dudes bigger and stronger" than Shaq, Malone, and Mourning in today's NBA. What a dumb comment.

[Nowitness]

Just read Kyle Lowry is 5 pounds heavier than Manute Bol was :roll:

80/90s had such little physicality. Dirty play? Yes, but dudes who could impose will like today? Not even close.

Old heads claiming LBJ couldn’t stand up to Bill Laimbeer when MJ had to ‘bulk’ to 210 to take punishment from him is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.

[8Ball]

Just read Kyle Lowry is 5 pounds heavier than Manute Bol was :roll:

80/90s had such little physicality. Dirty play? Yes, but dudes who could impose will like today? Not even close.

Old heads claiming LBJ couldn’t stand up to Bill Laimbeer when MJ had to ‘bulk’ to 210 to take punishment from him is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.

Old heads are all jealous. That's all it is.

[TheCorporation]

Dinwiddie said it best

"Back in the 90s there was one Jordan like athlete, nowadays we have like one per team. Put me in the 90s and I'd be Jordan"

Jamaal Murray/Donovan Mitchell acrobatics are Jordanesque and they're maybe top 25 on the modern era?

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Dinwiddie said it best

"Back in the 90s there was one Jordan like athlete, nowadays we have like one per team. Put me in the 90s and I'd be Jordan"

Jamaal Murray/Donovan Mitchell acrobatics are Jordanesque and they're maybe top 25 on the modern era?

So Dinwiddle thinks he is better than Clyde the Glide, Chris Mullin, Anfernee Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Hakeem, Barkley, Stockton, Shaq, Pippen, Payton, Kidd, etc etc.

Talk about an inflated ego. Dinwiddle would not even be an all star in any time in the NBA except for maybe the 50s/60s.

[Nowitness]

So Dinwiddle thinks he is better than Clyde the Glide, Chris Mullin, Anfernee Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Hakeem, Barkley, Stockton, Shaq, Pippen, Payton, Kidd, etc etc.

Talk about an inflated ego. Dinwiddle would not even be an all star in any time in the NBA except for maybe the 50s/60s.

If Cedric Ceballos once almost finished top 10 in MVP voting in the mid 90s, I’m highly confident Spencer would have held his own.

The 90s were top heavy as hell. Past the top 10 players you had scrubs. Flip that Tatum and Mitchell are fringe top 30 players in today’s game.

[Kblaze8855]

That’s such a weird take. Joakim Noah was 4th in mvp voting like 6-7 years ago. All nba first team. 25 years ago he’s like…all nba 7th team if they had one? Peja was 4th in mvp voting once. Ahead of Shaq, Kobe, and all manner of hall of famers. Dirk. Young Lebron. Nash.

That means the 2000s and 2010s were what?

Garbage?

That how we playing it?

[Nowitness]

Dudes in today’s game have been offered contracts to play professional football.

Whilst the 80s had Bill Laimbeer as their pillar of physicality.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Dudes in today’s game have been offered contracts to play professional football.

Whilst the 80s had Bill Laimbeer as their pillar of physicality.

Who besides LeBron?

[Overdrive]

Dudes in today’s game have been offered contracts to play professional football.

Whilst the 80s had Bill Laimbeer as their pillar of physicality.

If not for the bowling alley incident Iverson would've played football.

[TheGoatest]

So Dinwiddle thinks he is better than Clyde the Glide, Chris Mullin, Anfernee Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Mourning, David Robinson, Hakeem, Barkley, Stockton, Shaq, Pippen, Payton, Kidd, etc etc.

Talk about an inflated ego. Dinwiddle would not even be an all star in any time in the NBA except for maybe the 50s/60s.

Yeah, I can't imagine him becoming an all-star in an era where the 5'11, 160lbs household name Dana Barros got a spot.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Yeah, I can't imagine him becoming an all-star in an era where the 5'11, 160lbs household name Dana Barros got a spot.

Well, he did average 20/8 on 49/46/90 shooting percentages. Yeah he played for a crap team, and they needed a representative (because nearly every team gets "one"). And of course that was also a year when Jordan wasn't playing so a guard spot was definitely open for the taking.

So yeah I doubt he would have been an all star in any era except for maybe the 50s/60s.

[CountDracula]

“The War is over Dinwiddie, go with God Brother, go with God!”

-Certified Ballers(Latrell Sprewell, Dominique Wilkins, & Jim Jackson)

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[j3lademaster]

If Cedric Ceballos once almost finished top 10 in MVP voting in the mid 90s, I’m highly confident Spencer would have held his own.

The 90s were top heavy as hell. Past the top 10 players you had scrubs. Flip that Tatum and Mitchell are fringe top 30 players in today’s game.You have Tatum ranked in the 20's?

[lakerstekkenn]

Muscle mass in certain people differ just like bone size, some individual's are naturally bigger and are more muscular this has nothing to do with steroids just genetics, Mike Tyson didn't do steroids at a young age but he was naturally bigger stronger and had more muscle mass than others his size at a young age, Tyson has a big frame only being 5-ft 10 even when young his frame was big, bigger than other teenagers his size this is natural genetic's, so just because certain players are more muscular then others doesn't mean they are on steroids, it's natural.