Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #6

[dankok8]

List:

#1 - Michael Jordan
#2 - Lebron James
#3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
#4 - Bill Russell
#5 - Wilt Chamberlain
#6 - VOTING NOW

This is the player pool:

https://i.postimg.cc/VN7jY7Zz/Top-10-Candidates.jpg

For a full player pool see the link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARaI3VCNauULLYL1Yu24HIRY768FYQdip56sp6uRFGk/edit?usp=sharing).

Everyone may post in this thread but only votes from serious contributors will be considered. Not everyone has to write an essay but there should be some justification or explanation and some coherent arguments being presented. I encourage people to be open-minded and willing to adjust their rankings in response to strong evidence. Debate and discussion is encouraged.

Opening Vote Tally

Tim Duncan - 5 (8Ball, Jasper, Manny98, Magic is Magic, Nowitness)
Shaquille O'Neal - 2 (1987_Lakers, Jasper)
Magic Johnson - 1 (kuniva_dAMiGhTy)
Larry Bird - 1 (Wally450)

[ELITEpower23]

Timmy Duncan

[dankok8]

I vote for Shaq by the way. I see his peak as the best of anyone remaining (heck peak Shaq might even match Jordan for peak...) and his longevity is pretty great too especially compared to Magic and Bird. Duncan has Shaq in longevity but it isn't enough of a gap for me to pick him when Shaq is clearly the more dominant force and still had 10 or so prime years. Duncan might be my #7 vote. I am also considering Hakeem and Kobe for this position who no one mentioned as of now but they have a case for sure.

[SouBeachTalents]

https://i.ibb.co/7pFJRjg/bupOScq.gif

[8Ball]

I vote for Shaq by the way. I see his peak as the best of anyone remaining (heck peak Shaq might even match Jordan for peak...) and his longevity is pretty great too especially compared to Magic and Bird. Duncan has Shaq in longevity but it isn't enough of a gap for me to pick him when Shaq is clearly the more dominant force and still had 10 or so prime years. Duncan might be my #7 vote. I am also considering Hakeem and Kobe for this position who no one mentioned as of now but they have a case for sure.

Shaq is great but I don't feel he out performed Duncan in regular seasons for both of their careers.

Shaq obviously has one of the highest peaks of all time.

[MadDog]

I vote for Shaq by the way. I see his peak as the best of anyone remaining (heck peak Shaq might even match Jordan for peak...) and his longevity is pretty great too especially compared to Magic and Bird. Duncan has Shaq in longevity but it isn't enough of a gap for me to pick him when Shaq is clearly the more dominant force and still had 10 or so prime years. Duncan might be my #7 vote. I am also considering Hakeem and Kobe for this position who no one mentioned as of now but they have a case for sure.

Shaq's peak is up there with anyone's. Cannot ignore the sweeps and bad conditioning though. Nor his weak center comp in the 2000's. Shaq had better longevity than guys like Bird and Magic, but he often feuded with his co-star and needed another player with better shot making to close. I wouldn't call him a leader and there are players already listed with greater intangibles. That's nitpicking ya - but not much separates the top 10, much less the top 5. The criticisms will be magnified.

After the top 2 or 3, I go by tiers. Would have voted earlier. :confusedshrug: Oh well.

[RRR3]

Shaq.

[dankok8]

Shaq's peak is up there with anyone's. Cannot ignore the sweeps and bad conditioning though. Nor his weak center comp in the 2000's. Shaq had better longevity than guys like Bird and Magic, but he often feuded with his co-star and needed another player with better shot making to close. I wouldn't call him a leader and there are players already listed with greater intangibles. That's nitpicking ya - but not much separates the top 10, much less the top 5. The criticisms will be magnified.

After the top 2 or 3, I go by tiers. Would have voted earlier. :confusedshrug: Oh well.

These sweeps though... are they on Shaq? He played pretty well in all of these sweeps IIRC with the exception of the Spurs series in 1999.

[MadDog]

These sweeps though... are they on Shaq? He played pretty well in all of these sweeps IIRC with the exception of the Spurs series in 1999.

I wouldn't say they're all on Shaq, but he played a BIG part. Go back and watch his play in 97 vs the Jazz or in 99 vs the Spurs. He shot in the high 40s and was terrible from the line. For a guy whose shot attempts are primarily layups, that isn't efficient. Shaq's defense wasn't all that great either. He was often lit up by Duncan and in 95(sweep), Hakeem torched him.

Just remembered Utah swept him in 98, not 97. 4-1 is close enough though.

[SouBeachTalents]

These sweeps though... are they on Shaq? He played pretty well in all of these sweeps IIRC with the exception of the Spurs series in 1999.
Truth be told, if we discount the '07 series when he was past his prime with a banged up Wade, he didn't have a bad series in any of them, and was actually very good in most of them. But just the nature of getting swept that many times, in your prime, when he was actually the favorite in 3 of them, is very strange. He's the only top 10 player to get swept that frequently in his prime. I don't even know if another one has more than 2 or 3.

[coastalmarker99]

I vote for Magic.


He has more MVP's then both Shaq and Duncan.


He has three final MVP's and one can make a great case that he should have won the award in 1985 and 1987 plus 1988.

[MadDog]

Truth be told, if we discount the '07 series when he was past his prime with a banged up Wade, he didn't have a bad series in any of them, and was actually very good in most of them. But just the nature of getting swept that many times, in your prime, when he was actually the favorite in 3 of them, is very strange. He's the only top 10 player to get swept that frequently in his prime. I don't even know if another one has more than 2 or 3.

You guys are ignoring defense. I would let it slide if his counterpart didn't actually go off. Hakeem and Duncan teed off on Shaq. :oldlol:

[dankok8]

I wouldn't say they're all on Shaq, but he played a BIG part. Go back and watch his play in 97 vs the Jazz or in 99 vs the Spurs. He shot in the high 40s and was terrible from the line. For a guy whose shot attempts are primarily layups, that isn't efficient. Shaq's defense wasn't all that great either. He was often lit up by Duncan and in 95(sweep), Hakeem torched him.

Just remembered Utah swept him in 98, not 97. 4-1 is close enough though.

Shaq was a bit subpar in the 1999 WCSF... but other than that he always got around his 28/12 on good efficiency.

Hakeem torched him? Hakeem averaged 32.8 ppg but on just 51.4 %TS which is -2.9 rTS. Olajuwon was actually inefficient. Houston won because of Anderson's epic choke and because Hakeem's role players actually thoroughly outplayed Shaq's role players. As for Duncan I'll give you that one but Duncan had the luxury of Robinson to guard Shaq while Shaq had to guard Duncan. By the way, surprisingly enough Shaq was actually one of the best one-on-one post defenders ever. I've seen data on that. I'll try to pull it up.

Shaq was absolutely dominant against Utah in 1998 but young Kobe and Van Exel were terrible and Utah picked and rolled them to death. That is a legitimate Shaq weakness... defending P&R and Utah was just a nightmare matchup defensively for the Lakers because of that.

EDIT: Something else worth noting is that Shaq is one of the most game-planned-against players ever. For instance, the Spurs came into most series with the Lakers with the objective of slowing down Shaq. That's also why Kobe was usually really good against the Spurs.

[MadDog]

Shaq was a bit subpar in the 1999 WCSF... but other than that he always got around his 28/12 on good efficiency.

Hakeem torched him? Hakeem averaged 32.8 ppg but on just 51.4 %TS which is -2.9 rTS. Olajuwon was actually inefficient. Houston won because of Anderson's epic choke and because Hakeem's role players actually thoroughly outplayed Shaq's role players. As for Duncan I'll give you that one but Duncan had the luxury of Robinson to guard Shaq while Shaq had to guard Duncan. By the way, surprisingly enough Shaq was actually one of the best one-on-one post defenders ever. I've seen data on that. I'll try to pull it up.

Shaq was absolutely dominant against Utah in 1998 but young Kobe and Van Exel were terrible and Utah picked and rolled them to death. That is a legitimate Shaq weakness... defending P&R and Utah was just a nightmare matchup defensively for the Lakers because of that.

Not exactly. Hakeem shot 49% from the field and only took 1 three in that series. He also shot 70% from the freethrow line. On 32 points, that is decently efficient. Hakeem outplayed Shaq period. That's never been up for debate, so why is it now? :confusedshrug:

[dankok8]

Not exactly. Hakeem shot 49% from the field and only took 1 three in that series. He also shot 70% from the freethrow line. On 32 points, that is decently efficient. Hakeem outplayed Shaq period. That's never been up for debate, so why is it now? :confusedshrug:

Hakeem did outplay Shaq but not by much. Hakeem's overall efficiency was 51.4 %TS. That isn't good. Shaq did have more turnovers and Hakeem was better in the clutch including a game-winner in OT of Game 1. But Shaq had a really good series.

Besides how is that a rip on Shaq at all? In his third year he got slightly outplayed by Hakeem who was an all-timer at his absolute best.

[MadDog]

Hakeem did outplay Shaq but not by much. Hakeem's overall efficiency was 51.4 %TS. That isn't good. Shaq did have more turnovers and Hakeem was better in the clutch including a game-winner in OT of Game 1. But Shaq had a really good series.

Besides how is that a rip on Shaq at all? In his third year he got slightly outplayed by Hakeem who was an all-timer at his absolute best.

Hakeem also had a better closeout game. You say its not a "big deal" but being swept, while a player drops big numbers on you, has to mean something. If we can praise that year from Shaq then why is it exempt from criticism? Other than Wilt\Kareem and Russell\Wilt, what other top 10 players went head up and actually guarded one another? Hakeem, Duncan and Shaq? Hakeem and especially Duncan got the best of those playoff matchups. Again, that must count for something.

[Jasper]

shaq again

[MadDog]

shaq again

OP, I'll go with Magic by the way

[SouBeachTalents]

You guys are ignoring defense. I would let it slide if his counterpart didn't actually go off. Hakeem and Duncan teed off on Shaq. :oldlol:
Hakeem went off against everybody during that time, including ATG defenders like Robinson & Ewing. And Shaq wasn't usually guarding Duncan, at least in that series, his primary defenders were Horry & Fox

[jlip]

Shaq

[StrongLurk]

Magic at six.

I'll also say idk how Russell is at 4...come on man idc how good he was at defense for his era. For me he is easily in the 9 or 10 slot all time.

[MadDog]

Hakeem went off against everybody during that time, including ATG defenders like Robinson & Ewing. And Shaq wasn't usually guarding Duncan, at least in that series, his primary defenders were Horry & Fox

Not sure that's a good excuse for Shaq. Going by that logic, we let so-so defense off the hook. I remember Shaq guarding Duncan plenty. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1LmCdeDXk you see Fox and Horry defending him, but only after Shaq got abused by Duncan. Overall Shaq played a pretty good game, but so did Tim. He actually took on the challenge and guarded Shaq most of the game.

[kawhileonard2]

Of the guys on the list Magic Johnson.

[RRR3]

Of the guys on the list Magic Johnson.
You’re not allowed to vote cuz you only troll.

[Honor Boost]

https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/20200619175143/Sweaty-Shaq.jpg

[dankok8]

Hakeem also had a better closeout game. You say its not a "big deal" but being swept, while a player drops big numbers on you, has to mean something. If we can praise that year from Shaq then why is it exempt from criticism? Other than Wilt\Kareem and Russell\Wilt, what other top 10 players went head up and actually guarded one another? Hakeem, Duncan and Shaq? Hakeem and especially Duncan got the best of those playoff matchups. Again, that must count for something.

Hakeem and Shaq sure... and Hakeem did win that matchup.

Duncan and Shaq never matched up directly though. Shaq was often guarded by Robinson more of the time and Horry often guarded Duncan as well. Just because of how those teams matched up, Duncan often looked superior to Shaq but that means little in terms of their ability. Head to head can definitely matter but it should never be the primary argument. Shaq rag-dolled Mutombo and Ben Wallace, for instance, in a way that Duncan never could.

Would you say there is an argument for peak Duncan being equal to or better to peak Shaq? For me there absolutely isn't.

[Honor Boost]

https://image-cdn.essentiallysports.com/wp-content/uploads/20200619175143/Sweaty-Shaq.jpg

This is a vote for Shaq btw

[Bankaii]

I think I’ll go Shaq too.

[MadDog]

Hakeem and Shaq sure... and Hakeem did win that matchup.

Duncan and Shaq never matched up directly though. Shaq was often guarded by Robinson more of the time and Horry often guarded Duncan as well. Just because of how those teams matched up, Duncan often looked superior to Shaq but that means little in terms of their ability. Head to head can definitely matter but it should never be the primary argument. Shaq rag-dolled Mutombo and Ben Wallace, for instance, in a way that Duncan never could.

Would you say there is an argument for peak Duncan being equal to or better to peak Shaq? For me there absolutely isn't.

Not for the bulk of that series, you're right. I posted a video of Game 4 though where Shaq started on Duncan, and was forced to switch. Tim got anything he wanted and blew by Shaq at will. They met frequently from 2000-2004 and defended each other quite a bit. To say their h2h matchups meant little in-terms of ability is downplaying it. No, its not a "primary" reason although it should count to some degree. I think it speaks to Shaq's competition and the bigmen who actually challenged him. Mutombo and Wallace were great defensively, but never made Shaq work on the other end.

I would take Shaq's peak, but Duncan's prime was just as impressive. His longevity was greater too. Shaq's peak is what overrates him ironically enough.

[Thenameless]

Magic Johnson

At some point, the ability to make those around you better becomes paramount. Then, there's things like chemistry. I'm quite sure that a lot of these other all time players would love to play with Magic Johnson, more so than some of the solo acts.

[dankok8]

Official Vote Tally

Shaquille O'Neal - 8 (1987_Lakers, Jasper, dankok8, SouBeachTalents, RRR3, jlip, Honor Boost, Bankaii)
Tim Duncan - 6 (8Ball, Jasper, Manny98, Magic is Magic, Nowitness, ELITEpower23)
Magic Johnson - 6 (kuniva_dAMiGhTy, coastalmarker99, MadDog, StrongLurk, kawhileonard2, Thenameless)
Larry Bird - 1 (Wally450)

Let's get a few more votes before we call this one.

[SaintzFury13]

I'm split between Duncan and Bird right now...but I'm gonna say **** it and go Duncan.

[DevBooker'sMask]

Spurs Tim duncan

[SaintzFury13]

Well now Shaq and Duncan are tied. This is awkward.

[Overdrive]

Shaq. Would've picked Bird, but between Duncan and Shaq it's the latter.

[ELITEpower23]

Shaq. Would've picked Bird, but between Duncan and Shaq it's the latter.

See this ruins the entire point of ranking systems. You're a retard for admitting your retardation, but what would a retard be without their innocent honesty.

[Overdrive]

See this ruins the entire point of ranking systems. You're a retard for admitting your retardation, but what would a retard be without their innocent honesty.

Doesn't matter you only voted Duncan to push your Bron agenda.

[Reggie43]

Shaq

[nayte]

Timmy for me

[ELITEpower23]

Doesn't matter you only voted Duncan to push your Bron agenda.


Yeah Sherlock me and the other 8 guys :oldlol:

PS: You're still retaded

[8Ball]

Doesn't matter you only voted Duncan to push your Bron agenda.

Duncan is more accomplished than Shaq, doesn't have the higher 00-02 peak but has the entire career that is greater.

Duncan:

5× NBA champion (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014)
3× NBA Finals MVP (1999, 2003, 2005)
2× NBA Most Valuable Player (2002, 2003)
15× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000–2011, 2013, 2015)
10× All-NBA First Team (1998–2005, 2007, 2013)
3× All-NBA Second Team (2006, 2008, 2009)
2× All-NBA Third Team (2010, 2015)
8× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1999–2003, 2005, 2007, 2008)
7× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1998, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2015)

Shaq:

4× NBA champion (2000–2002, 2006)
3× NBA Finals MVP (2000–2002)
NBA Most Valuable Player (2000)
15× NBA All-Star (1993–1998, 2000–2007, 2009)
8× All-NBA First Team (1998, 2000–2006)
2× All-NBA Second Team (1995, 1999)
4× All-NBA Third Team (1994, 1996, 1997, 2009)
3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2000, 2001, 2003)

[ELITEpower23]

Duncan is more accomplished than Shaq, doesn't have the higher 00-02 peak but has the entire career that is greater.

+1

And he didn't have Kobe for three titles

[nayte]

See this ruins the entire point of ranking systems. You're a retard for admitting your retardation, but what would a retard be without their innocent honesty.

Agreed with this.. thats what kills these threads all the time
Maybe make it a closed poll or whatever. Somewhere u can't see who people vote for

[Chick Stern]

Shaq is a silly choice. He took half seasons off, never once led the league in rebounding, and couldn’t win with LeBron or Nash. Timmy is not this high either.
It is Magic, and he should be higher. Certainly over Shaq, Timmy and Bird.

[sdot_thadon]

I usually go with Magic here.

[Lebron23]

Magic Johnson

[colts19]

I would pick Larry Bird, while Timmy was very very, good for a long time. I never saw the pure greatness in him that Bird displayed.

[Nowitness]

Tim Duncan.

Won 4 titles without a teammate making an All-NBA Team. Magic did it twice but played when there were only 2 All-NBA teams. No other player has done it more than once.
Top 3 longevity (was an MVP candidate as a rookie and was making All-NBA teams at 39).
Top 3 defender ever alongisde Russell and Hakeem.
Best player on 4 title teams.
2003 is either the biggest, or second biggest carry job ever. (Still to this day most Win Shares and highest VORP for a playoff run).
Most All-Defensive teams by a hefty margin (3).
Tied 2nd most All-NBA teams (15).
Won titles as the best, or second best player in 3 different decade.
Played in the golden era of PFs (Malone/Barkley/Dirk/KG) and came out clearly on top.
Per 100 statistics, have him as good a scorer as Bird. Had he played on faster teams and cared about stats, he'd have averaged 25+ consistently.

[L.Kizzle]

Magic Johnson

[dankok8]

Official Vote Tally

Shaquille O'Neal - 10 (1987_Lakers, Jasper, dankok8, SouBeachTalents, RRR3, jlip, Honor Boost, Bankaii, Overdrive, Reggie43)
Tim Duncan - 9 (8Ball, Jasper, Manny98, Magic is Magic, Nowitness, ELITEpower23, SaintzFury13, DevBooker'sMask, nayte)
Magic Johnson - 10 (kuniva_dAMiGhTy, coastalmarker99, MadDog, StrongLurk, kawhileonard2, Thenameless, Chick Stern, sdot_thadon, Lebron23, L.Kizzle)
Larry Bird - 2 (Wally450, colts19)

This is insanely close!

[SaintzFury13]

I cannot think of any logical reason as to why Shaq is getting this many votes over people like Magic and Duncan. He's still not even the best remaining center here (that would be Hakeem). I can't deny how dominant of a peak he had but number 6 all time is pushing it.

[Dbrog]

Tim Duncan.

Won 4 titles without a teammate making an All-NBA Team. Magic did it twice but played when there were only 2 All-NBA teams. No other player has done it more than once.
Top 3 longevity (was an MVP candidate as a rookie and was making All-NBA teams at 39).
Top 3 defender ever alongisde Russell and Hakeem.
Best player on 4 title teams.
2003 is either the biggest, or second biggest carry job ever. (Still to this day most Win Shares and highest VORP for a playoff run).
Most All-Defensive teams by a hefty margin (3).
Tied 2nd most All-NBA teams (15).
Won titles as the best, or second best player in 3 different decade.
Played in the golden era of PFs (Malone/Barkley/Dirk/KG) and came out clearly on top.
Per 100 statistics, have him as good a scorer as Bird. Had he played on faster teams and cared about stats, he'd have averaged 25+ consistently.

Basically same reasons for me. Tim Duncan

[TheCorporation]

Shaq is great but over TD? Nah. Duncan's two-way abilities put him over anyone left.

Vote: Tim Duncan

[dankok8]

Let's get a few more votes here. It's crazy how close it is.

[MadDog]

Let's get a few more votes here. It's crazy how close it is.

Agreed. Thought Shaq was winning this by a mile, and then the Duncan\Magic avalanche rolled through. A lot of guys I'm seeing post on the main board. Get a vote in.

[lilblingy]

My vote goes to Magic @ 6.

[FKAri]

These lists are so hard. The longevity vs peak debate I can reconcile. Ditto for the ratio of accolades to opportunities. I also don't have a problem when deciding talent vs results. But how much do I weigh absolute performance vs performance relative to peers?

[ELITEpower23]

Wow, now it's

Shaq: 10
Tim: 11
Magic: 11
Bird: 2

Crazy close. When are you calling it OP?

[Gudo]

I go with magic. He had a huge impact in the game and created a winning culture in LA.

[8Ball]

I cannot think of any logical reason as to why Shaq is getting this many votes over people like Magic and Duncan. He's still not even the best remaining center here (that would be Hakeem). I can't deny how dominant of a peak he had but number 6 all time is pushing it.

Some people value peak dominance higher than longevity.

Shaq having only 1 MVP though is why I can't have him over the other 2.

[dankok8]

Official Vote Tally

Shaquille O'Neal - 10 (1987_Lakers, Jasper, dankok8, SouBeachTalents, RRR3, jlip, Honor Boost, Bankaii, Overdrive, Reggie43)
Tim Duncan - 11 (8Ball, Jasper, Manny98, Magic is Magic, Nowitness, ELITEpower23, SaintzFury13, DevBooker'sMask, nayte, Dbrog, TheCorporation)
Magic Johnson - 12 (kuniva_dAMiGhTy, coastalmarker99, MadDog, StrongLurk, kawhileonard2, Thenameless, Chick Stern, sdot_thadon, Lebron23, L.Kizzle, lilblingy, Gudo)
Larry Bird - 2 (Wally450, colts19)

I'll call this one as soon as someone opens a 2-vote lead.

[Kenny Griffin]

the fact that not one single person has voted for kobe yet tells you how far this forum has sunk. we just don't care to post here anymore cause its full of trash posters like everyone in this thread. even nick wright has kobe ahead of shaq.


i'l keep the trend going and vote for moses malone

f*ck this dumba** place

i'm outa here

[colts19]

I can see why Timmy gets so many votes. But how in the world does Shaq have such a big lead on Bird. Bird has 3 MVP's and was top 2 in mvp voting for 8 years in a row. Magic is ahead of Bird 11 to 2 and he was top 2 mvp's in 2 years and lost rookie of the year to Bird by a 63 to 3 margin. What is wrong with you people.

[8Ball]

I can see why Timmy gets so many votes. But how in the world does Shaq have such a big lead on Bird. Bird has 3 MVP's and was top 2 in mvp voting for 8 years in a row. Magic is ahead of Bird 11 to 2 and he was top 2 mvp's in 2 years and lost rookie of the year to Bird by a 63 to 3 margin. What is wrong with you people.

I agree.

I have Bird after Duncan. Then Magic. Then Shaq.

Some people value those 3 gigantic Shaq 00-02 years more than Bird's 3 straight MVP years.

[8Ball]

the fact that not one single person has voted for kobe yet tells you how far this forum has sunk. we just don't care to post here anymore cause its full of trash posters like everyone in this thread. even nick wright has kobe ahead of shaq.


i'l keep the trend going and vote for moses malone

f*ck this dumba** place

i'm outa here

Nobody voted for Kobe because this isn't a troll thread.

[Nike D'Antoni]

I vote Magic Johnson

[Kenny Griffin]

Nobody voted for Kobe because this isn't a troll thread.

no. its because you people literally drove away every non lebron fan because you guys are overly obsessive and never take a break from your shtick. theres like one jordan fan here and right now i'm the only kobe fan. this forum is literally dead lol

[Nike D'Antoni]

no. its because you people literally drove away every non lebron fan because you guys are overly obsessive and never take a break from your shtick. theres like one jordan fan here and right now i'm the only kobe fan. this forum is literally dead lol

everyone on reddit

[DevBooker'sMask]

the fact that not one single person has voted for kobe yet tells you how far this forum has sunk. we just don't care to post here anymore cause its full of trash posters like everyone in this thread. even nick wright has kobe ahead of shaq.


i'l keep the trend going and vote for moses malone

f*ck this dumba** place

i'm outa here

That's what Im saying he is not top 3 but by top 6 you think he would get on some votes by now.

[dankok8]

Official Vote Tally

Shaquille O'Neal - 10 (1987_Lakers, Jasper, dankok8, SouBeachTalents, RRR3, jlip, Honor Boost, Bankaii, Overdrive, Reggie43)
Tim Duncan - 11 (8Ball, Jasper, Manny98, Magic is Magic, Nowitness, ELITEpower23, SaintzFury13, DevBooker'sMask, nayte, Dbrog, TheCorporation)
Magic Johnson - 13 (kuniva_dAMiGhTy, coastalmarker99, MadDog, StrongLurk, kawhileonard2, Thenameless, Chick Stern, sdot_thadon, Lebron23, L.Kizzle, lilblingy, Gudo, Nike D'Antoni)
Larry Bird - 2 (Wally450, colts19)

Magic wins. Thread #7 is now open.