“Players today couldn’t handle the tOuGh 90’s defense”

[Ne 1]

Game 6 1998 Finals:

—> MJ made 15 shots and was double teamed just ONCE (and even that transition looked like a broken play). He was double teamed ONCE in a game with the championship on the line.

—> 41 seconds to go, up 3 & elimination game for Jazz… whats the game plan? Russell isolation vs Jordan (who gets the easiest layup ever)
—> 20 seconds to go, up 1.. what’s the game plan? Lets let Russell defend MJ 1 vs 1.. again :facepalm: :oldlol:

Let’s go a little bit deeper into those defensive sequences.
The play with .41 seconds remaining, Stockton doesn’t go to double MJ.. he has to stay with Pippen (who is wayyy beyond the 3pt line despite being a bad shooter) or otherwise risk an ilegal defense call. This allows huge spacing for MJ to go 1 vs 1 on poor Russell.

The play with 20 second remaining… Pippen is screaming at Rodman to get to the 3pt line (despite being an atrocious shooter) so that way the defender has to either follow him or commit to the double team to avoid an ilegal defense call. The defender hesitated but ultimately decided to go after Rodman. Russell again gets left on an island and MJ goes 1 vs 1.

Imagine KD, Bron, Curry, Kobe, Harden or any of today’s great being able to go 1 vs 1 on situations like this without worrying about help defenders.

Curry faced a box and one defense in the 2019 Finals and still averaged 30 a game. Box and one would be ilegal back in the ‘90s. That’s why I laugh when the old head clowns on here say today’s star wouldn’t be able to ball back then.

[AirBonner]

Rough and tough 90’s exposed again

[8Ball]

Game 6 1998 Finals:

—> MJ made 15 shots and was double teamed just ONCE (and even that transition looked like a broken play). He was double teamed ONCE in a game with the championship on the line.

—> 41 seconds to go, up 3 & elimination game for Jazz… whats the game plan? Russell isolation vs Jordan (who gets the easiest layup ever)
—> 20 seconds to go, up 1.. what’s the game plan? Lets let Russell defend MJ 1 vs 1.. again :facepalm: :oldlol:

Let’s go a little bit deeper into those defensive sequences.
The play with .41 seconds remaining, Stockton doesn’t go to double MJ.. he has to stay with Pippen (who is wayyy beyond the 3pt line despite being a bad shooter) or otherwise risk an ilegal defense call. This allows huge spacing for MJ to go 1 vs 1 on poor Russell.

The play with 20 second remaining… Pippen is screaming at Rodman to get to the 3pt line (despite being an atrocious shooter) so that way the defender has to either follow him or commit to the double team to avoid an ilegal defense call. The defender hesitated but ultimately decided to go after Rodman. Russell again gets left on an island and MJ goes 1 vs 1.

Imagine KD, Bron, Curry, Kobe, Harden or any of today’s great being able to go 1 vs 1 on situations like this without worrying about help defenders.

Curry faced a box and one defense in the 2019 Finals and still averaged 30 a game. Box and one would be ilegal back in the ‘90s. That’s why I laugh when the old head clowns on here say today’s star wouldn’t be able to ball back then.

Good post and educational.

[Ne 1]

Good post and educational.

The nostalgic “everything was better in the ‘90s because it was hardcore prison ball” avoiding this thread like a plague.

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Poor Lebron. Has to do this bullshit just to get some respect from the refs. Real ones know the Nba is rigged against Bron

[Bronbron23]

Game 6 1998 Finals:

—> MJ made 15 shots and was double teamed just ONCE (and even that transition looked like a broken play). He was double teamed ONCE in a game with the championship on the line.

—> 41 seconds to go, up 3 & elimination game for Jazz… whats the game plan? Russell isolation vs Jordan (who gets the easiest layup ever)
—> 20 seconds to go, up 1.. what’s the game plan? Lets let Russell defend MJ 1 vs 1.. again :facepalm: :oldlol:

Let’s go a little bit deeper into those defensive sequences.
The play with .41 seconds remaining, Stockton doesn’t go to double MJ.. he has to stay with Pippen (who is wayyy beyond the 3pt line despite being a bad shooter) or otherwise risk an ilegal defense call. This allows huge spacing for MJ to go 1 vs 1 on poor Russell.

The play with 20 second remaining… Pippen is screaming at Rodman to get to the 3pt line (despite being an atrocious shooter) so that way the defender has to either follow him or commit to the double team to avoid an ilegal defense call. The defender hesitated but ultimately decided to go after Rodman. Russell again gets left on an island and MJ goes 1 vs 1.

Imagine KD, Bron, Curry, Kobe, Harden or any of today’s great being able to go 1 vs 1 on situations like this without worrying about help defenders.

Curry faced a box and one defense in the 2019 Finals and still averaged 30 a game. Box and one would be ilegal back in the ‘90s. That’s why I laugh when the old head clowns on here say today’s star wouldn’t be able to ball back then.

Box and 1? Is this post serious? There's a reason why teams don't play box and one's dude. They generally don't work. Teams will throw them in periodically to change shit up and give a different look but if you throw a box and 1 consistently most nba teams will absolutely trash it. It's effective in disrupting the other teams star player but it leaves way to many people open which showed in the 19 Finals even though with kd and klay being out warriors had absolutely nobody. You act like the box and 1 was crazy effective. It allowed a terrible team to score 106 a game in what's usually the toughest defense atmosphere of the season. 106 a game is often good enough to win deep in the post season. The problem wasn't the warriors offense it was there defense which is curry's weakness btw. They allowed the raptors to score 115 points a game.

Oh and nice cherry picking comparisons. There were lots of series where mj faced zones including box and ones. Go back and watch how bad boys or early 90's knicks would defend mj. They would throw in zones, doubles and tripple teams that were much tougher than the raps.

Oh and nice comparing a prime curry to 35 year old mj. Let's see if curry is can even make the playoffs 2 years from now.

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[DoctorP]

Poor Lebron. Has to do this bullshit just to get some respect from the refs. Real ones know the Nba is rigged against Bron

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[ELITEpower23]

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Manny13 hyping up the 90s when he wasnt even born yet :oldlol:

[hateraid]

People love to show the clips of Laimbeer and think defense was all that in the 90s. It wasn't. The Pistons were unique and dirty. Nothing different from current Patrick Beverly. Move on 90s nostalgia bums

[Bronbron23]

People love to show the clips of Laimbeer and think defense was all that in the 90s. It wasn't. The Pistons were unique and dirty. Nothing different from current Patrick Beverly. Move on 90s nostalgia bums

Difference being every team had a beverly or 2 now he stands out.

I agree some 90's heads are to nostalgic but some proponents of this era are to in denial and stubborn to acknowledge simple facts. The league is softer and easier offensively. It's not a debate its a fact. The league put rules in place and said as much in their mandate. Arguing this is like arguing if the world is round.

[hateraid]

Difference being every team had a beverly or 2 now he stands out.

I agree some 90's heads are to nostalgic but some proponents of this era are to in denial and stubborn to acknowledge simple facts. The league is softer and easier offensively. It's not a debate its a fact. The league put rules in place and said as much in their mandate. Arguing this is like arguing if the world is round.

It's offensive friendly for perimeter players but defenses have adapted.. it would say it's easier just different. But definitely not the rough and tumble that it's portrayed to be. Also the fact players today are more versatile and stronger at a taller stature. Offense will always beat defense. It's evolved. If the same defensive schemes were available in the 90s then scoring would be even less because post players could create the same mismatches.

[Bronbron23]

It's offensive friendly for perimeter players but defenses have adapted.. it would say it's easier just different. But definitely not the rough and tumble that it's portrayed to be. Also the fact players today are more versatile and stronger at a taller stature. Offense will always beat defense. It's evolved. If the same defensive schemes were available in the 90s then scoring would be even less because post players could create the same mismatches.

First the league is the smallest its been in awhile. Second players aren't more versatile at all. The mid is almost completely gone with the exception of a few players.

If u wanna get a glimpse how this group would fare in the 90's all we have to do is look at this years Olympics buddy. With No space and no rules to aid in scoring they all looked way worse.

The game and defense isn’t different It's a absolutely worse because of the rules. Bring back handchecking and allow players to body up, fight through screens and contest shots and scores and players stats would definitely suffer. No they wouldn't suck and stars will still be stars but it absolutely effect scoring. Again this arguable.