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coastalmarker99
09-08-2021, 09:22 PM
3ball why don't you mention Wilt under the triangle offence in the 1967 playoffs.



Averaging for an entire playoff run en route to a title.

21.7 PTS 29.1 REBS 9.0 ASTS 9.2 BLKS FG% 57.9



Also, Wilt averaged in the regular season that season in 1966-1967.

24 PPG 24 REB 8 AST and 12 BPG on 68 FG% :bowdown:



And then in 1968.


Wilt under the triangle offence in the 1967- 1968 regular season.


Averaged 24 points/24 rebounds/9 assists and 11 BPG on .59.5 FG%



And then in the 1968 playoffs, Wilt averaged 23.7 PTS 24.7 REBS 6.5 ASTS 9.7 BLKS FG% 53.4

coastalmarker99
09-08-2021, 09:24 PM
Also, 3ball to say averaging 30 in the triangle & winning titles in the triangle = is the GOAT achievement to prop up Kobe.


When Shaq literally did it three times from 2000 to 2002 is laughable.

RRR3
09-08-2021, 09:27 PM
Also, 3ball to say averaging 30 in the triangle & winning titles in the triangle = is the GOAT achievement to prop up Kobe.


When Shaq literally did it three times from 2000 to 2002 is laughable.
He’s a butthurt Kobe stan who is so embarrassed by Kobe’s inferiority to LeBron he pretends to be a MJ fan.

3ba11
09-09-2021, 08:28 PM
It's common knowledge and well-documented that those Sixers used a few concepts of the triangle but that wasn't their offense - the Bulls/Lakers are the only winning teams in history that can answer the question "what's your offense?" with "the triangle"..

Ultimately, the triangle put role players in optimal spots, but still needed a bailout on 10-20% of possessions - so it didn't win for 50 years until it met the goat bailout artists it needed - then it won 11 chips in 18 years..

Indeed, the offense is infact a garbage offense that never won without goat bailout artists to plug it's holes.. Those goat bailout artists invented the footwork needed to score quickly (bailout), thereby not breaking the offense most of the time.. Anytime someone says "he has a good mid-range game", they're talking about the bailout, quick-score footwork that MJ invented and Kobe copied.. That's a pure basketball argument for GOAT

coastalmarker99
09-09-2021, 11:49 PM
It's common knowledge and well-documented that those Sixers used a few concepts of the triangle but that wasn't their offense - the Bulls/Lakers are the only winning teams in history that can answer the question "what's your offense?" with "the triangle"..

Ultimately, the triangle put role players in optimal spots, but still needed a bailout on 10-20% of possessions - so it didn't win for 50 years until it met the goat bailout artists it needed - then it won 11 chips in 18 years..

Indeed, the offense is infact a garbage offense that never won without goat bailout artists to plug it's holes.. Those goat bailout artists invented the footwork needed to score quickly (bailout), thereby not breaking the offense most of the time.. Anytime someone says "he has a good mid-range game", they're talking about the bailout, quick-score footwork that MJ invented and Kobe copied.. That's a pure basketball argument for GOAT

"Wilt Chamberlain thrived in this offence back in his time because it takes full advantage of a big man's skills. Having a center in the triangle offence is really the ultimate aspect of our game, because he fills the apex of the triangle."

-Phil Jackson, Oct 1999



June 22, 1999

Winter and Jackson point to past NBA clubs as evidence that a dominant center can flourish in the triple post.

The Lakers used a variation of this offence in the early '70s with Wilt Chamberlain, and Philadelphia coach Alex Hannum featured Wilt in a similar vein when the Sixers won the 1967 championship.


Winter says Milwaukee coach Larry Costello also implemented parts of the triple post with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to help the Bucks win the championship in 1971.

"The one thing Shaq should be prepared for is, it could cut down on his scoring," Winter says. "On the other hand, he'll have plenty of opportunities."

coastalmarker99
09-10-2021, 12:00 AM
It's common knowledge and well-documented that those Sixers used a few concepts of the triangle but that wasn't their offense - the Bulls/Lakers are the only winning teams in history that can answer the question "what's your offense?" with "the triangle"..

Ultimately, the triangle put role players in optimal spots, but still needed a bailout on 10-20% of possessions - so it didn't win for 50 years until it met the goat bailout artists it needed - then it won 11 chips in 18 years..

Indeed, the offense is infact a garbage offense that never won without goat bailout artists to plug it's holes.. Those goat bailout artists invented the footwork needed to score quickly (bailout), thereby not breaking the offense most of the time.. Anytime someone says "he has a good mid-range game", they're talking about the bailout, quick-score footwork that MJ invented and Kobe copied.. That's a pure basketball argument for GOAT

The video below shows excellent ball movement in a game of "keep away" with Walker, Greer, & Wilt in a triangle setup where the Bullets defence dictates the Sixers quick passes, and big Luke Jackson comes from the weak side to clean up Greer's miss and clinch the Eastern Division Championship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngg3owcJl1g&t=49s

3ba11
09-10-2021, 12:03 AM
"Wilt Chamberlain thrived in this offence back in his time because it takes full advantage of a big man's skills. Having a center in the triangle offence is really the ultimate aspect of our game, because he fills the apex of the triangle."

-Phil Jackson, Oct 1999



June 22, 1999

Winter and Jackson point to past NBA clubs as evidence that a dominant center can flourish in the triple post.

THe Lakers used a variation of this offence in the early '70s with Wilt Chamberlain, and Philadelphia coach Alex Hannum Philadelphia coach Alex Hannum featured Wilt in a similar vein when the Sixers won the 1967 championship.


Winter says Milwaukee coach Larry Costello also implemented parts of the triple post with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to help the Bucks win the championship in 1971.

"The one thing Shaq should be prepared for is, it could cut down on his scoring," Winter says. "On the other hand, he'll have plenty of opportunities."


A variation, as in something that VARIES from the triangle.

Again, the modern-era Bulls/Lakers are the only winning teams in history that can answer the question: "what's your offense?" with "the triangle"..

coastalmarker99
09-10-2021, 12:07 AM
Again, the modern-era Bulls/Lakers are the only winning teams in history that can answer the question: "what's your offense?" with "the triangle"..


in the Shrine Auditorium, USC’s basketball team played most of its home games in 1946.

With a squad that included a little senior guard named Tex Winter, a hotshot freshman named Bill Sharman and a returning Army veteran named Alex Hannum.

The coach was Sam Berry, who ran something called “the center option.


A forerunner of the offence Winter would devise, the “triangle,” that he taught the Bulls under Phil Jackson, after which they won six NBA titles in the ‘90s.


Hannum also used it with the 1967 76ers, who won an NBA record 68 games in 1967.



Sharman’s Lakers then won 69 games five years later, using some triangle, a record that stood until the Bulls won 72 games in 1996.

“The funny thing was, we didn’t win with it,” says Sharman, remembering their days at USC. “We were 10-14.


“Then Hannum uses it with the 76ers and they win 68 games.



Then we used it a little bit with the Lakers and we win 69 games


Then Tex runs it with the Bulls and they win 72 games.

3ba11
09-10-2021, 12:26 AM
in the Shrine Auditorium, USC’s basketball team played most of its home games in 1946.

With a squad that included a little senior guard named Tex Winter, a hotshot freshman named Bill Sharman and a returning Army veteran named Alex Hannum.

The coach was Sam Berry, who ran something called “the center option.


A forerunner of the offence Winter would devise, the “triangle,” that he taught the Bulls under Phil Jackson, after which they won six NBA titles in the ‘90s.


Hannum also used it with the 1967 76ers, who won an NBA record 68 games in 1967.



Sharman’s Lakers then won 69 games five years later, using some triangle, a record that stood until the Bulls won 72 games in 1996.

“The funny thing was, we didn’t win with it,” says Sharman, remembering their days at USC. “We were 10-14.


“Then Hannum uses it with the 76ers and they win 68 games.



Then we used it a little bit with the Lakers and we win 69 games


Then Tex runs it with the Bulls and they win 72 games.


Yes, many reporters generalize and say the Sixers won with the triangle, but they didn't and it's well-documented, as you showed in your previous post - they used a variation of it that included some concepts of the triangle, but again - the Bulls/Lakers are the only winning teams in history that can answer the question "what's your offense?" with "the triangle"..

This is the historical record and I remember when the Bulls started winning with the triangle, no one was saying "this is the first team to win with the triangle since Wilt's Sixers".. No one said that, not even Wilt, because 68' Wilt was in those practices and knew they didn't run the triangle, despite using some of it's concepts and apparently playing a "variation" of it.