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FireDavidKahn
09-11-2021, 01:59 PM
LeBron lead the league in made field goals 5 times without ever leading the league in field goal attempts.

MJ lead the league in made field goals 10 times but had to lead the league in field goal attempts 9 times to do that.

Yikes

Norcaliblunt
09-11-2021, 02:04 PM
He was a chucker. The ultimate goat chucker.

Norcaliblunt
09-11-2021, 02:05 PM
Oh and in before 3 ball says Jordan had no scoring help that’s why he chucked.

3ba11
09-11-2021, 02:06 PM
Lebron's non-elite jumpshooting skill makes him shoot poorly at carry-job volume... And at high scoring levels, his ball-dominance causes teammates to be spot up shooters more than normal (weak strategy/brand of ball).

Accordingly, Lebron can't win at high scoring levels (can't carry teams).. He can't shoot well enough at the high volumes (weak jumper and avoids contested jumpers), while his ball-dominance hurts brand more at high volume..

So he can't win with high scoring or carry teams like Michael.. Michael possessed elite jumpshooting skill, so he could shoot well at high volume, while his high scoring was partially-assisted, thereby elevating teammate role and brand of ball

Carry on

Bronbron23
09-11-2021, 02:09 PM
LeBron lead the league in made field goals 5 times without ever leading the league in field goal attempts.

MJ lead the league in made field goals 10 times but had to lead the league in field goal attempts 9 times to do that.

Yikes

Not sure what this proves dude. Mj shot more more but scored more and he also shot more because he had to. Bulls were a great offensive team they were usually mediocre offensively outside of mj and pip and pis was never really great offensively. He was mostly great because of his defense.

Manny98
09-11-2021, 02:13 PM
LeBron only lead the league in scoring once and his efficiency was pretty average

Only MJ and KD can score at a super high volume whilst maintaining elite efficiency

ELITEpower23
09-11-2021, 05:02 PM
We win again boys

:hammertime:

Gohan
09-11-2021, 05:14 PM
Thats because lebron played alot of his yesrs with iverson and kobe

TAZORAC
09-11-2021, 06:47 PM
Anybody who remembers ACTUALLY WATCHING JORDAN PLAY, knows he was a ball hog.

Spurs m8
09-11-2021, 07:04 PM
Op displaying - once again - that he's nothing but a low iq, little jizz rag

10 scoring titles to 1

1 hahahahhahahahhaahhha

6 out of 6

4 out of 10 with multiple hopping and collusion lmfao

Can't make this stuff up.

Congrats, op

Full Court
09-11-2021, 07:04 PM
Jordan took a lot more contested shots. Won 10 scoring titles. Three-peated twice. Six finals MVPs. I'd say it's a safe bet the guy was doing something right.

"Non chucker" Lebron is 4-10 and -86. How's that working out for him?

3ba11
09-11-2021, 08:21 PM
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FROM 538 (PROFESSIONAL STATISTICIANS)


https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-12-2021/vYzODM.gif


https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/paine-jordan-0416-1.png?w=575

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-michael-jordan-was-the-best/

RRR3
09-11-2021, 08:23 PM
Jordan took a lot more contested shots. Won 10 scoring titles. Three-peated twice. Six finals MVPs. I'd say it's a safe bet the guy was doing something right.

"Non chucker" Lebron is 4-10 and -86. How's that working out for him?
I’d say the guy with the second most FMVPs of all time is doing something right too but I guess I’m just built different.

Axe
09-11-2021, 08:26 PM
While kong also turned several players into spot-up shooters. Right op?

Yikes.

3ba11
09-11-2021, 08:44 PM
While kong also turned several players into spot-up shooters. Right op?

Yikes.


One of the reasons that Lebron can't win with 2nd options tjat average a lot less than him, and instead needs a 1b is because he can't win with high scoring

Lebron can't win with high scoring because when he scores a lot, teammates become spot-up shooters more than normal and the weaker team brand can't win.

A second reason that Lebron can't win with high scoring is because he can't handle the additional jumpshooting/contested jumpshooting required and therefore shoots poorly at carry-job volume - he lacks elite jumpshooting skill and avoids contested jumpshots - this is all statistical fact..

Since he can't shoot well at high volume and weakens team brand and high volume, Lebron can't win with high scoring and needs a 1b

Axe
09-11-2021, 08:47 PM
One of the reasons that Lebron can't win with high scoring (carry-jobs) is because when he scores a lot, teammates become spot-up shooters more than normal and the weaker team brand can't win.

A second reason that Lebron can't win with high scoring or while scoring a lot more than his sidekick (carry-job) is because he can't handle the additional jumpshooting and contested jumpshooting required - he lacks elite jumpshooting skill and avoids contested jumpshots - this is all statistical fact..
1-9

3ba11
09-11-2021, 08:49 PM
1-9


Imagine your goat cannot win with a true 2nd option that averages far less than him (can't have carry-job)..

Lebron needs a 1b that averages close to him because Lebron can't win with high scoring carry-jobs...

He can't win with high scoring because he has weaker jumpshooting efficieincy at high volume (contested shots) and weaker team brand at high ball-domination levels.

TLDR: lebron sucks compared to jordan and needs an all-star team to win (and still mostly loses)

Spurs m8
09-11-2021, 09:18 PM
Imagine your goat cannot win with a true 2nd option that averages far less than him (can't have carry-job)..

Lebron needs a 1b that averages close to him because Lebron can't win with high scoring carry-jobs...

He can't win with high scoring because he has weaker jumpshooting efficieincy at high volume (contested shots) and weaker team brand at high ball-domination levels.

TLDR: lebron sucks compared to jordan and needs an all-star team to win (and still mostly loses)

In his whole career, he hasn't done it once.

Says a lot

TheCorporation
09-11-2021, 09:32 PM
Op displaying - once again - that he's nothing but a low iq, little jizz rag

10 scoring titles to 1

1 hahahahhahahahhaahhha

6 out of 6

4 out of 10 with multiple hopping and collusion lmfao

Can't make this stuff up.

Congrats, op

The fact that you think Six Finals is better than Ten shows your low IQ. You're right you can't make this stuff up.

3ba11
09-11-2021, 09:35 PM
The fact that you think Six Finals is better than Ten shows your low IQ. You're right you can't make this stuff up.


Winning Finals without super-teams > losing with super-teams

Winning > Losing.... 6/15 > 4/20

Spurs m8
09-11-2021, 09:52 PM
The fact that you think Six Finals is better than Ten shows your low IQ. You're right you can't make this stuff up.

This guy is celebrating stacking teams in a weak Conference, and being swept and embarrassed when he faces real competition.

Even handing fmvp to his direct opponent...at least 4 times.

Even with his 1b's and cherry picked pieces.

Can't make this shit up

Losers breed loser stans hahahahahah

Spurs m8
09-11-2021, 09:54 PM
They had 4 all stars just because East was very weak. Just check all nba teams:

2014-15
FIRST TEAM
East: 1
West: 4


F: LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers

F: Anthony Davis, New Orleans Pelicans

C: Marc Gasol, Memphis Grizzlies

G: Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors

G: James Harden, Houston Rockets

SECOND TEAM
East: 1
West: 4
F: LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland Trail Blazers

F: DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento Kings

C: Pau Gasol, Chicago Bulls

G: Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder

G: Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers

THIRD TEAM
East: 1
West: 4
F: Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers

F: Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs

C: DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers

G: Klay Thompson, Golden State Warriors

G: Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers

So only 3 players were selected to All-Nba teams. Two of them were Lebron and his teammate Kyrie. It means, there was only 1 player except Lebron's team that was selected to all-Nba teams.

Lebron played multiple Finals just because he played in a weak Conference with super teams.

Also total all star games of those players:
Korver - 1 time
Teague - 1 time
Millsap - 4 times
Horford - 5 times


This

The story of his career out East..especially while he was making finals

Axe
09-11-2021, 10:12 PM
Imagine your goat cannot win with a true 2nd option that averages far less than him (can't have carry-job)..

Lebron needs a 1b that averages close to him because Lebron can't win with high scoring carry-jobs...

He can't win with high scoring because he has weaker jumpshooting efficieincy at high volume (contested shots) and weaker team brand at high ball-domination levels.

TLDR: lebron sucks compared to jordan and needs an all-star team to win (and still mostly loses)
No pip, no chip. Doofus.

TheCorporation
09-11-2021, 10:20 PM
Winning Finals without super-teams > losing with super-teams

Winning > Losing.... 6/15 > 4/20

The fact that you think Six Finals is better than Ten shows your low IQ. You're right you can't make this stuff up.

3ba11
09-11-2021, 10:28 PM
The fact that you think Six Finals is better than Ten shows your low IQ. You're right you can't make this stuff up.


6 Finals wins > anything Lebron has done

And it's 6 wins without 1b's or 3rd stars (super-teams)

And Lebron formed super-teams in a conference that 1-star teams were winning - no one respects this method of making Finals (cheating).. he couldn't beat 1-star teams as the favorite in 09' so he formed super-team - sonLebron is a bitch and a joke . No one respects him.. everyone just uses him for money

SATAN
09-12-2021, 12:53 AM
Speaking of chucking


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsjukb2NttM

nayte
09-12-2021, 03:49 AM
You make a thread about Jordan and the first word you mention is LeBron. Great thread op
Jordan is a chucker heres why -- lebron.

3ba11
09-12-2021, 03:58 AM
Speaking of chucking


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsjukb2NttM


Recent exchange on Youtube comments


COMMENTER #1: MJ has an absolutely beautiful looking shot. Goes in with such rotation and through the net like a laser

COMMENTER #2: imagine that form getting in a rhythm shooting threes at volume - no wonder he looked so good in the 92' Finals - he was shooting more volume!... His career percentage is sub-par only because he shot bailout volume nearly every year of his career - he shot less than 1.5 attempts every year (bailout volume), except a few years where he shot 3-4 attempts at 35-43%.. He also won the 93' title by shooting 40% on 4 attempts in those playoffs.. If he played in today's high-screen format that gets threes for the ball-handler and spot-ups, he would get 5-10 attempts per game and get hot all the time.