Bosh inducted to HOF

[DoctorP]

Good dude Bosh makes it in and has an awesome tale about returning a championship ring Riley gifted him before he joined Miami.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEo_0v858tE

https://wp.usatodaysports.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/92/2018/03/chrisboshshot.jpg

[DoctorP]

High IQ player. Totally transformed his game by listening to the coaches' needs and improving his skill.

Elite player.

[Jasper]

High IQ player. Totally transformed his game by listening to the coaches' needs and improving his skill.

Elite player.
sad but true many fans will compare his two rings to other credentials , but it is based on full body of work. :cheers:

[L.Kizzle]

11 All-Star appearances. Only 22 players have more. Probably makes 2-3 more but forced to retire early.

[GrayGoat]

Good 3rd option. Weak East most of his career. Once scored 0pts in a finals game

[HBK_Kliq_2]

one single all nba selection, no memorable playoff runs.

Jesus anybody can get in now. Kevin Love is an absolute lock.

[GrayGoat]

one single all nba selection, no memorable playoff runs.

Jesus anybody can get in now. Kevin Love is an absolute lock.

This is also true

[BurningHammer]

He could have done more for Raptors, unfortunately. But he got his rings and HOF induction, so it is all great.

[L.Kizzle]

one single all nba selection, no memorable playoff runs.

Jesus anybody can get in now. Kevin Love is an absolute lock.
He's played the majority of his career along side Duncan, Dirk, KG, LeBron and Durant. Other forwards during that time span included Carmelo, Kevin Love, Paul George, Leonard, Gasol, Blake, Draymond, LaMarcus Aldridge and more.

That shows his consistency goin to 11 straight all star games and only being voted in to start one of them. So the coaches selected him the majority of the time. He was a top 5 PF for 11 seasons basically.

Also, with Kevin Love he only has 5 All Star appearances compared to Boshs 11.

[Gohan]

one single all nba selection, no memorable playoff runs.

Jesus anybody can get in now. Kevin Love is an absolute lock.

:oldlol:

[Manny98]

Well deserved :applause:

Arguably the greatest 3rd option ever

[SouBeachTalents]

Well deserved :applause:

Arguably the greatest 3rd option ever
Nah

[000]

According to Bball Ref, Kyle Lowry has an 86% chance of making the HOF

[000]

He's played the majority of his career along side Duncan, Dirk, KG, LeBron and Durant. Other forwards during that time span included Carmelo, Kevin Love, Paul George, Leonard, Gasol, Blake, Draymond, LaMarcus Aldridge and more.

That shows his consistency goin to 11 straight all star games and only being voted in to start one of them. So the coaches selected him the majority of the time. He was a top 5 PF for 11 seasons basically.

Also, with Kevin Love he only has 5 All Star appearances compared to Boshs 11.
Who cares about allstar appearances in the Least

[pandiani17]

I am very happy for him. However, I agree with other posters in saying that it is a questionable induction.

[SaintzFury13]

The man made 11 all star games, joined a team where he was forced to become a third option spot up shooter on offense, which he adapted to pretty well. He then changed positions, put on weight and became a pretty damn good rim protecting center for Miami.

His hall of fame induction is well deserved.

[SaintzFury13]

Well deserved :applause:

Arguably the greatest 3rd option ever

He's not even the greatest third option teammate that LeBron has ever had. That distinction goes to Kevin Love in 2017 who averaged 19 PPG as the third option on offense.

[Manny98]

He's not even the greatest third option teammate that LeBron has ever had. That distinction goes to Kevin Love in 2017 who averaged 19 PPG as the third option on offense.
My bad

Forgot the 26/12 beast Kevin Love who put up numbers that only prime Kareem was able to replicate :bowdown:

Or his current third option walking triple double Russell Westbrook one of the best point guards the league has ever seen :bowdown:

[MrFonzworth]

This is a LGBTQ+ move

[SaintzFury13]

My bad

Forgot the 26/12 beast Kevin Love who put up numbers that only prime Kareem was able to replicate :bowdown:

Or his current third option walking triple double Russell Westbrook one of the best point guards the league has ever seen :bowdown:

I sincerely hope that last part is sarcasm, because I'm still convinced that Westbrook is going to be a disaster of a third option for LA.

[SouBeachTalents]

He's not even the greatest third option teammate that LeBron has ever had. That distinction goes to Kevin Love in 2017 who averaged 19 PPG as the third option on offense.
Even if he scored less I'd rather have Bosh than Love, much more capable defender


My bad

Forgot the 26/12 beast Kevin Love who put up numbers that only prime Kareem was able to replicate :bowdown:

Or his current third option walking triple double Russell Westbrook one of the best point guards the league has ever seen :bowdown:
Klay & Kyrie are MUCH better :oldlol:

[DoctorP]

THE HOF

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/david_hasselhoff_knight_rider_-_h_-__1980s.jpg

[LeCola]

My bad

Forgot the 26/12 beast Kevin Love who put up numbers that only prime Kareem was able to replicate :bowdown:

Or his current third option walking triple double Russell Westbrook one of the best point guards the league has ever seen :bowdown:

Are you sure Westbrook will be third option?

I won't be surprised if those happen:

1st option - Westbrook
2nd option - Davis
3rd option - Lebron

Davis leads PPG, Wesbrook leads APG and RPG.

Westbrook averages triple double again...

[L.Kizzle]

The man made 11 all star games, joined a team where he was forced to become a third option spot up shooter on offense, which he adapted to pretty well. He then changed positions, put on weight and became a pretty damn good rim protecting center for Miami.

His hall of fame induction is well deserved.
Lol, everyone saying an 11 time All-star is not enough to make the Hall. He retired at 31. He would have made at least 3 more had he not got those blood clots that forced him to retire.

[clipps]

The man made 11 all star games, joined a team where he was forced to become a third option spot up shooter on offense, which he adapted to pretty well. He then changed positions, put on weight and became a pretty damn good rim protecting center for Miami.

His hall of fame induction is well deserved.

Shut the **** up, retard.

[TheGoatest]

Worst All-NBA/All-defensive resumé for a HOFer of all time? Like seriously, is any HOFer, who was exclusively selected as a player, even close to something as pathetic as this:

0 All-NBA 1st teams
1 All-NBA 2nd team (2006-07)
0 All-NBA 3rd teams

0 All-defensive 1st teams
0 All-defensive 2nd teams

In comparison, fellow inductees Ben Wallace and Chris Webber, neither of which are rock solid 1st balloters, destroy him in this regard:

Ben Wallace:

0 All-NBA 1st teams
3 All-NBA 2nd teams
2 All-NBA 3rd teams

5 All-defensive 1st teams
1 All-defensive 2nd team

Chris Webber:

1 All-NBA 1st team
3 All-NBA 2nd teams
1 All-NBA 3rd team

0 All-defensive 1st teams
0 All-defensive 2nd teams

Just another Ringo Starr whose Hall of Fame membership was sculpted by the sheer gravity of LeBron "The Goatest" James, along with the upcoming ones of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love, as well as Mo Williams' all-star appearance.

[SouBeachTalents]

Worst All-NBA/All-defensive resumé for a HOFer of all time? Like seriously, is any HOFer, who was exclusively selected as a player, even close to something as pathetic as this:

0 All-NBA 1st teams
1 All-NBA 2nd team (2006-07)
0 All-NBA 3rd teams

0 All-defensive 1st teams
0 All-defensive 2nd teams

In comparison, fellow inductees Ben Wallace and Chris Webber, neither of which are rock solid 1st balloters, destroy him in this regard:

Ben Wallace:

0 All-NBA 1st teams
3 All-NBA 2nd teams
2 All-NBA 3rd teams

5 All-defensive 1st teams
1 All-defensive 2nd team

Chris Webber:

1 All-NBA 1st team
3 All-NBA 2nd teams
1 All-NBA 3rd team

0 All-defensive 1st teams
0 All-defensive 2nd teams

Just another Ringo Starr whose Hall of Fame membership was sculpted by the sheer gravity of LeBron "The Goatest" James, along with the upcoming ones of Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love, as well as Mo Williams' all-star appearance.
Have you seen some of the guys who've made the HOF? :lol Sure, I doubt many have as few All-NBA/All-Defensive nods as Bosh, but I bet there are a handful of guys who never made once it in their career.

It is strange though the total disparity Bosh has between all-star selections & All-NBA Teams.

[TheGoatest]

Have you seen some of the guys who've made the HOF? :lol Sure, I doubt many have as few All-NBA/All-Defensive nods as Bosh, but I bet there are a handful of guys who never made it once

Name 'em.

I bet that they're either:

A: International

or

B: Not exclusively selected as a player, which Bosh was.

[SouBeachTalents]

Name 'em.

I bet that they're either:

A: International

or

B: Not exclusively selected as a player, which Bosh was.
I ain't looking them up :lol Anyone feeling generous enough to do it, I'd also really like to know

[Horatio33]

Good 3rd option. Weak East most of his career. Once scored 0pts in a finals game

Hes not a HOFer, but as a Spurs fan in that 0 point finals game, it was game 7 and he played incredible defence. LeBron and Wade did the scoring and Bosh held the defence together. It was really difficult for the Spurs to score when Bosh was on the court.

[L.Kizzle]

Ray Allen - 10 time All-Star, one each 2nd team and 3rd team
Robert Parish - 9 time All-Star, one each 2nd team and 3rd team
Bob Lanier - 8 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams
Lenny Wilkens - 9 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams
Jack Sikma - 7 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams

I could go on.

[SouBeachTalents]

Ray Allen - 10 time All-Star, one each 2nd team and 3rd team
Robert Parish - 9 time All-Star, one each 2nd team and 3rd team
Bob Lanier - 8 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams
Lenny Wilkens - 9 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams
Jack Sikma - 7 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams

I could go on.
In fairness to those guys, with the exception of Ray, the All-NBA 3rd team didn't even exist for virtually all of their career. It might not have made any difference, but those are 1-2 extra spots every year they didn't have the opportunity to get.

And the fact Ray only made 2 All-NBA Teams shows how brutal the competition was at his position. It also didn't help he was frequently stuck on mediocre teams

[Manny98]

Everybody talks about Ray Allen

But Bosh grabbing LeBrons brick which lead to the 3 in the first place deserves way more appreciation

Let's not forget the two clutch blocks in OT :bowdown:


https://youtu.be/2r-ivyuxOnI

[TheGoatest]

Ray Allen - 10 time All-Star, one each 2nd team and 3rd team
Robert Parish - 9 time All-Star, one each 2nd team and 3rd team
Bob Lanier - 8 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams
Lenny Wilkens - 9 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams
Jack Sikma - 7 time All-Star, zero All-NBA Teams

I could go on.

You certainly could not go on when it comes to players from an era where All-NBA 3rd team existed. I guess I didn't specify that.
But from the All-NBA 3rd team era, you're yet to name more players than the amount of points Chris Bosh scored in the 28 minutes he played in game 7 of the 2013 finals. :lol

[L.Kizzle]

In fairness to those guys, with the exception of Ray, the All-NBA 3rd team didn't even exist for virtually all of their career. It might not have made any difference, but those are 1-2 extra spots every year they didn't have the opportunity to get.

And the fact Ray only made 2 All-NBA Teams shows how brutal the competition was at his position. It also didn't help he was frequently stuck on mediocre teams
A few guys from Bosh era may even have a few more All-NBA Teams then him but they didn't last nearly as long.

Same with Ray Allen. Those guys have great longevity.

[tpols]

Have you seen some of the guys who've made the HOF? :lol Sure, I doubt many have as few All-NBA/All-Defensive nods as Bosh, but I bet there are a handful of guys who never made once it in their career.

It is strange though the total disparity Bosh has between all-star selections & All-NBA Teams.

Its not that strange considering he had to compete with Duncan, Garnett, Amare, and Dirk for the spots every year.

[L.Kizzle]

Its not that strange considering he had to compete with Duncan, Garnett, Amare, and Dirk for the spots every year.
And LeBron, Melo, T-Mac was a forward for some of those seasons as well. Guys with a career year like David Lee would even sneak on an All-NBA squad.

[Jasper]

one single all nba selection, no memorable playoff runs.

Jesus anybody can get in now. Kevin Love is an absolute lock.

The all- star appearance in the 70's - 2000 was a viable credibility , not now with fan voting.
But to assume Kevin Love should or would get in, would validate that the HOF is a shame.

[L.Kizzle]

The all- star appearance in the 70's - 2000 was a viable credibility , not now with fan voting.
But to assume Kevin Love should or would get in, would validate that the HOF is a shame.
But Bosh was only voted in once maybe twice by fans.

[SouBeachTalents]

Its not that strange considering he had to compete with Duncan, Garnett, Amare, and Dirk for the spots every year.
Besides center there's almost always going to be strong competition at your position. If Bosh had come along over the last 5-10 years he'd be going up against the likes of LeBron, Durant, Kawhi, Giannis, AD etc instead. So at least to me, I think it is strange a guy with 11 all-star selections only made All-NBA once while guys like Blake & Aldridge made it 5 times, and the likes of Marion, Brand, Boozer & Pau were being selected over him in his prime as well. As someone said earlier if Bosh never got blood clots that disparity could've ballooned to something ridiculous like 15-1.

[ralph_i_el]

Bosh had his second highest per-possession scoring rate the season after LeBron left. Sad that the back end of his career was cut short, because he still had a few years left where he could have been a big time player.

[tpols]

Besides center there's almost always going to be strong competition at your position. If Bosh had come along over the last 5-10 years he'd be going up against the likes of LeBron, Durant, Kawhi, Giannis, AD etc instead. So at least to me, I think it is strange a guy with 11 all-star selections only made All-NBA once while guys like Blake & Aldridge made it 5 times, and the likes of Marion, Brand, Boozer & Pau were being selected over him in his prime as well. As someone said earlier if Bosh never got blood clots that disparity could've ballooned to something ridiculous like 15-1.

Certain positions definitely hold easier or harder competition as time goes on. Dirk, Duncan, and Garnett are 3 of the top 4 power forwards of literally all time. And they all played in the same sliver of time as Chris Bosh. Raptor Bosh was selected All NBA over Grizzly Pau. That's facts. Pau never made an All NBA team before LAs winning spotlight shone on him.

Blake and Aldridge entered their primes just as that elite trio was exiting theirs. So there's a perfectly valid logic for how things went in regards to your post. PF from 2010-2015 wasn't nearly as strong as 2005-2010. And Bosh career was ended early due to a potentially fatal condition. If you look at the context it does add up.

[ShawkFactory]

Certain positions definitely hold easier or harder competition as time goes on. Dirk, Duncan, and Garnett are 3 of the top 4 power forwards of literally all time. And they all played in the same sliver of time as Chris Bosh. Raptor Bosh was selected All NBA over Grizzly Pau. That's facts. Pau never made an All NBA team before LAs winning spotlight shone on him.

Blake and Aldridge entered their primes just as that elite trio was exiting theirs. So there's a perfectly valid logic for how things went in regards to your post. PF from 2010-2015 wasn't nearly as strong as 2005-2010. And Bosh career was ended early due to a potentially fatal condition. If you look at the context it does add up.

So does make him overrated those years? Or does that mean people realized he was underrated before? Playing on a bad team in perhaps the smallest market in basketball and all. And literally never speaking.

[tpols]

So does make him overrated those years? Or does that mean people realized he was underrated before? Playing on a bad team in perhaps the smallest market in basketball and all. And literally never speaking.

Bosh played on the craptors dude. They both played in small basketball markets and on bad or mediocre teams. They chose Bosh over Pau for All NBA.

[ShawkFactory]

Bosh played on the craptors dude. They both played in small basketball markets and on bad or mediocre teams. They chose Bosh over Pau for All NBA.

For starters...you didn't answer my question(s) at all.


Second..how can you possibly compare their situations. Sure, they were both on bad/mediocre teams in small markets. But Bosh played college in the US (my dad had seasons tickets that year; loved watching him play) and was drafted between Melo and Wade. He clearly had a way bigger spotlight from the start, regardless of where he played.

Pau also missed 23 games in 2007. He certainly would have been an all star and potentially all-nba selection had he not.

[tpols]

For starters...you didn't answer my question(s) at all.


Second..how can you possibly compare their situations. Sure, they were both on bad/mediocre teams in small markets. But Bosh played college in the US (my dad had seasons tickets that year; loved watching him play) and was drafted between Melo and Wade. He clearly had a way bigger spotlight from the start, regardless of where he played.

That has to be the weakest excuse I've ever seen. Because Bosh played college ball in 2003 he was selected over Pau to the 2007 All NBA team? :oldlol:

What was your first excuse? Pau never speaks? Neither did Bosh. Neither were talkers or media darlings. Under similar circumstances on crappy basketball teams as 1st options, Bosh made All NBA team over Pau.

That's just what reality was. That's how good he was.

[ShawkFactory]

That has to be the weakest excuse I've ever seen. Because Bosh played college ball in 2003 he was selected over Pau to the 2007 All NBA team? :oldlol:

What was your first excuse? Pau never speaks? Neither did Bosh. Neither were talkers or media darlings. Under similar circumstances on crappy basketball teams as 1st options, Bosh made All NBA team over Pau.

That's just what reality was. That's how good he was.

The funny thing is that my original comment to you had nothing to do with Bosh :lol

It was about the "spotlight" being on Pau or whatever. Bosh being selected 4th in the most high-profile draft of all time provided that spotlight for him. That is also reality. And to argue that that doesn't matter is foolish.

Is that why he was selected to the 2007 all-nba team? I don't know and I don't really care. Nor did I claim that that was the reason. You took that leap yourself.

[L.Kizzle]

My point of Bosh being an 11 time All-Star is longevity. You had guys like Boozer and David Lee taking All-NBA positions from him. Was Boozer and Lee ever better than Bosh tho. Not bringing up guys like Amare, Blake, Aldridge who were his level. Lower level guys maybe had a peak season but then dropped off considerably. A guy like Boozer was never close to an All-Star level player for 11 seasons. Maybe 5 seasons peak.

That's what separates Bosh from everyone else.
Bosh was a top 5 PF for 11 seasons, How many was Boozer or David Lee or even Kevin Love?

[ZenMaster]

Good for him.

[getting_old]

everybody remotely eligible gets into this Hall of Fame

[L.Kizzle]

everybody remotely eligible gets into this Hall of Fame
False. A lot of folks have been nominated but have yet to get anywhere close to being inducted.

[houston]

Robert Parish made it so and Bosh is in his class of player. Basketball HOF lets anybody in.

[L.Kizzle]

Robert Parish made it so and Bosh is in his class of player. Basketball HOF lets anybody in.
If Bosh is not Hall of Fame level, than half of the players in the Hall should be deleted.


Bosh
Parish
James Worthy
Chris Mullin
Zelmo Beaty
Jack Sikma
Charlie Scott
Jamal Wilkes
Calvin Murphy
Dennis Johnson
Paul Westlhal
Tommy Heinsohn
Chet Walker
Bailey Howell
Satch Sanders
Frank Ramsey
Bill Bradley
Bobby Jones
Bob Dandridge
Richie Guierren
Slater Martin
Walt Bellamy