Who was the worst president?

[DoctorP]

Pick one, geniuses.

Votes are private.

[SouBeachTalents]

Trump was the most divisive, but Bush was the worst president post WW2. Things were in absolute shambles when he left office. The country was actually doing pretty well under Trump before covid hit

[tpols]

Trump was the most divisive, but Bush was the worst president post WW2. Things were in absolute shambles when he left office. The country was actually doing pretty well under Trump before covid hit

Bush Jr. inherited his fathers war. (And the ones behind him that directed it)

There really is no "worst president". They're literally all puppets.

[Manny98]

Bush worst

Trump best

[Cleverness]

No Abraham Lincoln on the poll?


Bush Jr. inherited his fathers war. (And the ones behind him that directed it)

There really is no "worst president". They're literally all puppets.

:pimp:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Voted for Trump but no way does this leave Dubya off the hook.

[Patrick Chewing]

Obama was the worst as he did nothing but divide us further for 8 years. But Biden is definitely on his tail.

Best President is most likely Lincoln or Roosevelt.

[jstern]

From that list, Bush. Bush and Hillary are of the same crowd.

But he's the worse only because Joe Biden is not on the list. A senile psychopath with pedo tendencies. And it's not because of the obvious. Such as the embarrassment that was the withdrawal of Afghanistan. And just so many other things. But really his character. For example, telling the President of Afghanistan to lie to the media about how much ground the Taliban was gaining. (Remember, Trump wanted to pull out in May before the fighting season, but Joe wanted the pullout to happen right before September 11, for the praises he was going to receive in the media.) So he's telling the President to lie, for PR purposes, at the same time telling the US media this.


https://youtu.be/TA7xwsMfUgE

An absolute shameless liar. Then pulling out the troops before the civilians, without out giving an ounce of f*ck of what that was going to result. A psychopath.

And then goes on TV and pretends that's not the issue. That it was time to leave, and he's simply being criticized for ending the war. And then you come across people who go. "He's right, he had to make a difficult decision and took it. Joe Biden is a good man." Pure manipulation, and the vast majority of the public are so susceptible to it. Why would they think anything else if that's what's being presented.

And then he does the same when it comes to race. Manipulating your average black person into thinking, basically all of their problems is strictly because of every white person out there. And that's just going to generate rage into millions that don't know any better, and will end up being disastrous. Indirectly destroying the lives of who know how many people that he will never know.

And don't forget about the Hunter corruption, the touching little girls.

Just a disgusting piece of shit.

[Axe]

A toss up between dubya and mussolini

[RRR3]

The worst President isn’t listed. It’s Reagan. Most destructive person since Hitler died.

[bobopenguin]

Nixon.
th2 first ever us president showed u guys how to kneel down to chinese commies.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Obama was the worst as he did nothing but divide us further for 8 years.

What Poopsie means is Obama was black.

[Kenny Griffin]

biden is looking like the worst ever so far. what has he done right


hes destroyed Afghanistan, hes destroyed the boarder, hes destroyed the economy, hes about to destroy the constitution through vaccine mandates. he sold the US to china and stole the election. and before all this he molested children.

[TheMan]

biden is looking like the worst ever so far. what has he done right


hes destroyed Afghanistan, hes destroyed the boarder, hes destroyed the economy, hes about to destroy the constitution through vaccine mandates. he sold the US to china and stole the election. and before all this he molested children.

Why do some people have difficulties spelling the word border?

[Code Breaker]

Why do some people have difficulties spelling the word border?

:lol

[JohnnySic]

Every Democrat since Kennedy has been shit.

[Patrick Chewing]

Every Democrat since Kennedy has been shit.

And weak on Foreign Policy and Islamic Extremism.


Kennedy = Weak on the Soviets and Castro

Carter = Weak on Iran

Clinton = Weak on Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden

Obama = Weak on ISIS

Biden = Weak on the Taliban

[TheMan]

And weak on Foreign Policy and Islamic Extremism.


Kennedy = Weak on the Soviets and Castro

Carter = Weak on Iran

Clinton = Weak on Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden

Obama = Weak on ISIS

Biden = Weak on the Taliban

Meh, revisionist history. Nixon opened the door to have China become our biggest world rival, Trump effed up his trade war with China, speeding up our eventual defeat to them. You can also make arguments as to how Republicans overzealous military actions have been just as damaging, couple of examples...Reagan and HW Bush's military and financial aid to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan vs the Soviets led to the creation of Al Qaeda and 9/11, and GWB's overreach in Afghanistan and especially Iraq has led to the overall cluster**** that the ME finds itself today...

Believe me, both side have done fukked up huuugely.

Can you stop being partisan for a tiny bit moment?

[Patrick Chewing]

Meh, revisionist history. You can arguments as to how Republicans overzealous military actions have been just as damaging, couple of examples...Reagan and HW Bush's military and financial aid to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan vs the Soviets led to the creation of Al Qaeda and 9/11, and GWB's overreach in Iraq has led to the overall cluster**** that the ME is now today.

Believe me, both side have done fukked up huuugely.

Can you stop being partisan for a tiny bit moment?


Uhh he mentioned Democrat Presidents. So I'm referring to Democrat Presidents at the moment.

Nothing revisionist about Kennedy leaving the Cubans out to dry during the Bay of Pigs.

Nothing revisionist about Carter allowing Iran to hold US hostages for a whopping 444 days.

Nothing revisionist about Clinton admitting that he could have killed Bin Laden.

Nothing revisionist about Obama's actions in Iraq that gave rise to ISIS.

Nothing revisionist about Joe Biden's ineptitude in leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban with all those weapons of ours left behind. Prepare for terrorist attacks against us and our allies. It will happen.

[BigKobeFan]

Uhh he mentioned Democrat Presidents. So I'm referring to Democrat Presidents at the moment.

Nothing revisionist about Kennedy leaving the Cubans out to dry during the Bay of Pigs.

Nothing revisionist about Carter allowing Iran to hold US hostages for a whopping 444 days.

Nothing revisionist about Clinton admitting that he could have killed Bin Laden.

Nothing revisionist about Obama's actions in Iraq that gave rise to ISIS.

Nothing revisionist about Joe Biden's ineptitude in leaving Afghanistan to the Taliban with all those weapons of ours left behind. Prepare for terrorist attacks against us and our allies. It will happen.

TheTacoMan complains about people being unable to spell "border". But goes on a rant not comprehending what he is reading.

[BurningHammer]

:oldlol: at Obama voting.

[TheMan]

TheTacoMan complains about people being unable to spell "border". But goes on a rant not comprehending what he is reading.

I wanted to bring up the fact that both parties have had presidents screw up things, chinaman.

[DoctorP]

I wanted to bring up the fact that both parties have had presidents screw up things, chinaman.


https://media0.giphy.com/media/ktCzb8Rm8aoow/200.gif

walter...

[Gohan]

Obama was the best by far he had to overcome kkk members in the white house and still did his job. Who else could do what obama did?

[Norcaliblunt]

Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, and Ronald Reagan.

[Axe]

Obama was the best by far he had to overcome kkk members in the white house and still did his job. Who else could do what obama did?
He did a lot for dark people?

[Long Duck Dong]

He did a lot for dark people?

No but they did a lot for him.

They expanded his wealth. He expanded their wealth gap and threw in a few Obama phones while he was at it.

Peggy Joseph is still waiting for him to put gas in her car and pay her mortgage

[Gohan]

No but they did a lot for him.

They expanded his wealth. He expanded their wealth gap and threw in a few Obama phones while he was at it.

Peggy Joseph is still waiting for him to put gas in her car and pay her mortgage

We had a watch party at my school when obama got elected we were mostly black though with a few asians

[BigKobeFan]

We had a watch party at my school when obama got elected we were mostly black though with a few asians

Why the **** would you be in school at 9pm on a tuesday night in november?

[Cleverness]

Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, and Ronald Reagan.

What's your reasoning for these two?

[Lakers Legend#32]

For Chewing and all his sock puppets.

Trump hates you.

He's disgusted by you.

He wouldn't even let you into his f#cking hotel.

Go to Maralago. See if there are any people who look like you.

[RRR3]

What's your reasoning for these two?
Lmao at needing reasons. Do you not care about owning slaves and genocide?

[Axe]

Why the **** would you be in school at 9pm on a tuesday night in november?
Why tf do you care anyway?

[1987_Lakers]

W Bush is the obvious answer, left office with a 33% approval rating, had us stuck in Iraq which was a failure of a war and in our worse economic state since the Great Depression, saying he fvcked up as president is an understatement. He was disliked by everyone when he left.

Jimmy Carter comes in 2nd.

[j3lademaster]

Lmao at needing reasons. Do you not care about owning slaves and genocide?i think a lot of people get a misconception of Jefferson because he fought vehemently to abolish slavery, but he didn’t free his own slaves and it was well documented he felt black people were uncreative, stupid and ugly. He abolished slavery because he was one of the largest if not the largest planter in Virginia and getting rid of new slave trade creates a barrier of entry for new competition. Not to mention he needed the slave labor because dude was in massive debt. As heinous as this is and despite his reasons for stopping the Atlantic slave trade, what matters at the end is he did and that may very well created dialogue across the nation to ultimately lead to emancipation. So based on that idk if I can put him as the absolute worst. **** Andrew Jackson, though.

[TheMan]

W Bush is the obvious answer, left office with a 33% approval rating, had us stuck in Iraq which was a failure of a war and in our worse economic state since the Great Depression, saying he fvcked up as president is an understatement. He was disliked by everyone when he left.

Jimmy Carter comes in 2nd.

Shit, you're actually being generous, I remember him in the high teens, low twenties. You're right too about being disliked by everyone, there are Trumpers here who supported and voted for him but act like they never did :lol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/

[Long Duck Dong]

Not one vote for Jimmy Carter who might be the worst of them all. He certainly was the most ineffectual, unprepared and indecisive of them all. He probably accomplished more post presidency than he did in office

[Patrick Chewing]

Shit, you're actually being generous, I remember him in the high teens, low twenties. You're right too about being disliked by everyone, there are Trumpers here who supported and voted for him but act like they never did :lol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/

People only hate on Bush because he got us into the Iraq and Afghanistan war, while at the time, going to war on those two fronts was widely supported by all. Both wars failed and probably only destabilized the region even moreso, but to base your dislike on Bush on the aftermath of those wars is being disingenuous. And what I'm saying is true by the wide support that Liberals are giving him now. He's on Jimmy Kimmel, he's taking pictures with Clinton and Obama, he's being praised on CNN, etc. These are people that excoriated him while he was in office because of the fallout from Iraq and Afghanistan.


You watch, in 10 years, Trump will be praised on CNN and Jimmy Kimmel will be asking him questions about his hair.

[Long Duck Dong]

Shit, you're actually being generous, I remember him in the high teens, low twenties. You're right too about being disliked by everyone, there are Trumpers here who supported and voted for him but act like they never did :lol
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/

Crazy thing is Dubya has a higher average approval rating over his entire term than Obama does :lol

[ShawkFactory]

Not one vote for Jimmy Carter who might be the worst of them all. He certainly was the most ineffectual, unprepared and indecisive of them all. He probably accomplished more post presidency than he did in office

Carter just didn't have the mentality. He isn't a narcissistic, cut-throat, borderline psychopathic guy. Unfortunately, in the modern day at least, that leaves you pretty ill-equipped to handle the position.

He's a wonderful man though and the things that he's done (and still is doing even at 96) are incredibly inspiring and and commendable.

[Lakers Legend#32]

People only hate on Bush because he got us into the Iraq and Afghanistan war, while at the time, going to war on those two fronts was widely supported by all. Both wars failed and probably only destabilized the region even moreso, but to base your dislike on Bush on the aftermath of those wars is being disingenuous. And what I'm saying is true by the wide support that Liberals are giving him now. He's on Jimmy Kimmel, he's taking pictures with Clinton and Obama, he's being praised on CNN, etc. These are people that excoriated him while he was in office because of the fallout from Iraq and Afghanistan.


You watch, in 10 years, Trump will be praised on CNN and Jimmy Kimmel will be asking him questions about his hair.

Iraq war was wildly supported by all?
Wide support by liberals for Dubya?
Dislike Bush only for his military quagmires alone.

Forget Trump. Chewing is what dementia looks like.

[SouBeachTalents]

Crazy thing is Dubya has a higher average approval rating over his entire term than Obama does :lol
I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm going to assume that's significantly affected by the unprecedented 90% approval rating he had post 9/11. He was a deeply unpopular president for the duration of his 2nd term.

[j3lademaster]

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I'm going to assume that's significantly affected by the unprecedented 90% approval rating he had post 9/11. He was a deeply unpopular president for the duration of his 2nd term.I got you.

https://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/iinbqpz4mu27out2e9mlqq.png

https://news.gallup.com/poll/116500/presidential-approval-ratings-george-bush.aspx

[j3lademaster]

Iraq war was wildly supported by all?The Iraq War was relatively popular. It spiked his approval ratings

https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/legacy/478-1.gif

It actually made it more impressive he ended with such low approvals. A normal president would have been able to ride the coattails of 9/11 and the war to a "popular" presidency.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Dubya needed to kill all those soldiers in the Iraq war so he could get re-elected.

[j3lademaster]

Dubya needed to kill all those soldiers in the Iraq war so he could get re-elected.Pretty much. As long as it's not him or his friends/family fighting it.

[1987_Lakers]

Not one vote for Jimmy Carter who might be the worst of them all. He certainly was the most ineffectual, unprepared and indecisive of them all. He probably accomplished more post presidency than he did in office

Carter was pretty bad, no doubt the 2nd worst of the presidents mentioned. But most people don't know their history so it's typical the presidents that got the most votes are the most recent presidents. :lol

[TheMan]

Crazy thing is Dubya has a higher average approval rating over his entire term than Obama does :lol

Lol, that's easily explainable, he had around 90% support after 9/11, the rally around the leader effect after a national tragedy. He squandered it though, take that away and he was never really popular, came in after a very divisive and hotly contested election where half of the country thought the other half stole the election and went out with perhaps the lowest poll ratings ever.

edit; should've just scrolled down a little, a couple of posters already did a better job explaining it :lol

[Vino24]

Jimmy Carter