California's Population Exodus is Intensifying

[Cleverness]

The California exodus is also a myth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_iYqNSVIAQHynK?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_iYqNSVIAQHynK?format=jpg&name=900x900

:biggums:

[Shogon]

Without searching out those articles, my guess is... different authors? If it's the same author, that is really, really shameful. But probably not.

Reporting isn't based in fact anymore... at least not most of it. It's based in opinion. And there are all kinds of different ways to slant data and paint whatever narrative you want, so technically people aren't "lying" even though they are. People don't stick to what they know. They stick to what they feel.

There are more news sources to choose from than ever, but anyone that actually believes our overall information dissemination accuracy has improved in this country, in regards to the news anyways, is outside of their mind batshit insane retarded. It has gone the opposite direction of improvement. Every major media outlet has regressed since their inception. Every single one without fail. ALL OF THEM. 100%.

Side note... any "journalist" that uses the word "haters" in a news article should automatically be discarded, btw. I don't care if people are leaving or aren't leaving California... just saying. How absurd. Zero professionalism. It automatically implies emotion based opinion piece rather than looking at facts.

[bladefd]

Both are written by two separate people. The first article cited is filled with anecdotes of various people talking about their experiences. The latter reads more like an opinion piece and provides arguments. Both could be considered opinion pieces tbh with anecdotes from different groups of people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-12/california-exodus-intensifying-retirees-musicians-teachers-actors%3f_amp=true
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-08/california-exodus-myth-hating-on-the-golden-state%3f_amp=true

This is what happens when you open an agenda-driven thread without looking into the articles and not even knowing they were written by two separate people.

[Patrick Chewing]

Are there any stories of people moving to California?? :lol

[8Ball]

I would love to move to california. I want to be in LA near the beach.

[Cleverness]

Both are written by two separate people. The first article cited is filled with anecdotes of various people talking about their experiences. The latter reads more like an opinion piece and provides arguments. Both could be considered opinion pieces tbh with anecdotes from different groups of people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-12/california-exodus-intensifying-retirees-musicians-teachers-actors%3f_amp=true
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-04-08/california-exodus-myth-hating-on-the-golden-state%3f_amp=true

This is what happens when you open an agenda-driven thread without looking into the articles and not even knowing they were written by two separate people.

You mean we get bladefd to point out the obvious and act like I didn't already know all that?

[Patrick Chewing]

I would love to move to california. I want to be in LA near the beach.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF-5hVfrqSY


Go for it.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Chewing would have you believe they are moving to his home state of Mississippi.

[Lakers Legend#32]

You have everyone believing you're a flaming fagett

And you're Poopsie's sock puppet.

[Patrick Chewing]

You have everyone believing you're a flaming fagett

:oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

I would love to move to california. I want to be in LA near the beach.

Same here brody :cheers:

[fsvr54]

Someone I know in Austin, Texas says Californians have been moving there by the shitload for the last couple years and pissing everyone off.

[Norcaliblunt]

Cali has always been a place where people come and people go. For every person that moves away you have 3 more moving in.

And there’s always been homeless too. People like to romanticize about some imaginary time where there were no homeless people out here. Lol. The 60’s were ****ed, the 70’s were ****ed, the 80’s were ****ed, the 90’s were ****ed, and 2000’s have been ****ed.

Some places clean up and get nicer. Some places go to shit. Nothing new.

[Nanners]

Cali has always been a place where people come and people go. For every person that moves away you have 3 more moving in.

And there’s always been homeless too. People like to romanticize about some imaginary time where there were no homeless people out here. Lol. The 60’s were ****ed, the 70’s were ****ed, the 80’s were ****ed, the 90’s were ****ed, and 2000’s have been ****ed.

Some places clean up and get nicer. Some places go to shit. Nothing new.

For the first time ever there are more people leaving Cali than moving in, the state lost a seat in congress because of it.

I have family in the bay area and have been regularly visiting since the 80s, and while there have always been homeless the situation now is borderline apocalyptic. Massive tent cities under almost every highway overpass, piles of trash and human turds littering the sidewalks in the dense urban centers, 50% chance of a smashed car window if you park in SF/Oakland/Berkeley for an hour or two... shit is fvcked.

And yeah, no doubt some places get nicer and some go to shit. I live in Portland, which got pretty damn nice from 2000ish-2015ish but has recently been going to shit (for many of the same reasons) ... but Portland feels like switzerland compared to the bay area these days.

[Norcaliblunt]

For the first time ever there are more people leaving Cali than moving in, the state lost a seat in congress because of it.

I have family in the bay area and have been regularly visiting since the 80s, and while there have always been homeless the situation now is borderline apocalyptic. Massive tent cities under almost every highway overpass, piles of trash and human turds littering the sidewalks in the dense urban centers, 50% chance of a smashed car window if you park in SF/Oakland/Berkeley for an hour or two... shit is fvcked.

And yeah, no doubt some places get nicer and some go to shit. I live in Portland, which got pretty damn nice from 2000ish-2015ish but has recently been going to shit (for many of the same reasons) ... but Portland feels like switzerland compared to the bay area these days.

70’s and 80’s were grimier. Crack, gangs, Reaganomics. They’ve cleaned up a lot of the areas that were straight hood. I don’t buy that we are way worse, or it’s more apocalyptic now.

People leave Cali because of the cost of living not because they are tripping on homeless people or shit on the sidewalks. Lol.

[Nanners]

70’s and 80’s were grimier. Crack, gangs, Reaganomics. They’ve cleaned up a lot of the areas that were straight hood. I don’t buy that we are way worse, or it’s more apocalyptic now.

People leave Cali because of the cost of living not because they are tripping on homeless people or shit on the sidewalks. Lol.

I wasnt around for the 70s, but right now is definitely the most apocalyptic I have seen in my lifetime. The tent situation has never been remotely comparable to what it is right now, same can be said for the petty crime, street shitting, and other homeless related issues destroying the area.

If cost of living alone was the reason for leaving Cali, the exodus would have started a long time ago. Anyway its not like cost of living and homelessness are disconnected issues, and who can blame folks who dont want to spend absurd amounts of money to live in a city where zombies are staggering around on all the main streets, and the sidewalks are covered in turds

[Norcaliblunt]

I wasnt around for the 70s, but right now is definitely the most apocalyptic I have seen in my lifetime. The tent situation has never been remotely comparable to what it is right now, same can be said for the petty crime, street shitting, and other homeless related issues destroying the area.

If cost of living alone was the reason for leaving Cali, the exodus would have started a long time ago. Anyway its not like cost of living and homelessness are disconnected issues, and who can blame folks who dont want to spend absurd amounts of money to live in a city where zombies are staggering around on all the main streets, and the sidewalks are covered in turds

I’ve lived in Cali my whole life and I’ve never seen shit on the sidewalk. Lol. You’re on some redneck let’s diss Cali with that propaganda bullshit. Are some places dirty? Yes. But the whole state? Get the **** outta here.

The tents and homeless encampments have always been there. Like I said some places get better and some get worse.

[Nanners]

I’ve lived in Cali my whole life and I’ve never seen shit on the sidewalk. Lol. You’re on some redneck let’s diss Cali with that propaganda bullshit and non sense. Are some places dirty? Yes. But the whole state? Get the **** outta here.

The tents and homeless encampments have always been there. Like I said some places get better and some get worse.

Nobody who is actually from California calls the state "Cali"... thats like calling SF "Frisco". You sound like a retarded foreigner, like me.

Anyway you arent the only person on this site who has lived in "Cali", I lived in the bay area for several years and I have spent time in the bay every single year for 3+ decades. While the state has always been dirty and crowded, youre a goddan liar or utterly clueless if you are trying to pretend the current situation is comparable to decades in the past.

The tents and homeless encampments have never been remotely close to what they are right now. You are right that some places get better and some get worse, and your place is undoubtedly getting worse (as a Portland resident mine is too)

[Norcaliblunt]

Nobody who is actually from California calls the state "Cali"... thats like calling SF "Frisco". You sound like a retarded foreigner, like me.

Anyway you arent the only person on this site who has lived in "Cali", I lived in the bay area for several years and I have spent time in the bay every single year for 3+ decades. While the state has always been dirty and crowded, youre a goddan liar or utterly clueless if you are trying to pretend the current situation is comparable to decades in the past.

The tents and homeless encampments have never been remotely close to what they are right now. You are right that some places get better and some get worse, and your place is undoubtedly getting worse (as a Portland resident mine is too)

Hella people from out here call this state Cali. Lol. And hella people call SF, Frisco. Lmao at you kicking it with hipsters probably ph ag its who tell you otherwise. Lol.

You’re Chicken Little. The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!!! California is turning into shit!!!!!!!!

Cali is gonna be alright because like I said this isn’t anything we haven’t seen before. Shit the Sco during the 60’s had a hundred thousand homeless kids at one point.

[fsvr54]

Cali is shite dude and getting worse, deal with it. People are leaving by the droves, this is undisputable fact.

Why any sane person would want to live there is beyond me.

[Norcaliblunt]

Cali is shite dude and getting worse, deal with it. People are leaving by the droves, this is undisputable fact.

Why any sane person would want to live there is beyond me.

Bruh I live on the beach in 70 degree weather all year. My life is the shit. Deal with it.

[j3lademaster]

Hella people from out here call this state Cali. Lol. And hella people call SF, Frisco. Lmao at you kicking it with hipsters probably ph ag its who tell you otherwise. Lol.

You’re Chicken Little. The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!!! California is turning into shit!!!!!!!!

Cali is gonna be alright because like I said this isn’t anything we haven’t seen before. Shit the Sco during the 60’s had a hundred thousand homeless kids at one point.If the real estate went down a bit, my wife and I would move back in a heartbeat. 7-8k/mo mortgage is just too risky in case one of us lose our jobs. But if I lived in a shithole like Kentucky or Alabama I may rather be homeless in California.

All my family and friends living there who do well love it. Irving is still beautiful. And year round perfect weather. Can't beat it.

[Norcaliblunt]

If the real estate went down a bit, my wife and I would move back in a heartbeat. 7-8k/mo mortgage is just too risky in case one of us lose our jobs. But if I lived in a shithole like Kentucky or Alabama I may rather be homeless in California.

The cost of living is what makes this place suck. All the other negative crap is way overhyped. Everywhere has societal ills like homelessness and griminess. California is just so big that it can be amplified in certain urban centers. San Francisco, Venice, Hollywood, Berkeley, Oakland, San Fernando Valley, and OC always go through ups and downs. The part of California that is ****ed is the Central Valley. Stockton, Fresno, Bakersfield. Those places watch yourself. Lol.

[fsvr54]

Bruh I live on the beach in 70 degree weather all year. My life is the shit. Deal with it.

Good for you man. Personally, I don't give a f about living on the beach (I'm from Florida).

Sad state of affairs when one of the most intelligent men in the country, Larry Elder, loses the election.

[Chick Stern]

Hella people from out here call this state Cali. Lol. And hella people call SF, Frisco. Lmao at you kicking it with hipsters probably ph ag its who tell you otherwise. Lol.

You’re Chicken Little. The sky is falling!!!! The sky is falling!!!! California is turning into shit!!!!!!!!

Cali is gonna be alright because like I said this isn’t anything we haven’t seen before. Shit the Sco during the 60’s had a hundred thousand homeless kids at one point.
NOPE. Nobody from California calls it “Cali”, and nobody says “out here”.
Valley Go Home!


ps - Larry Elder, ROFLMFAO!!!
Why are you Cons so enamored with talk show hosts? Do their rich baritone voices make you moist?

[j3lademaster]

Good for you man. Personally, I don't give a f about living on the beach (I'm from Florida).

Sad state of affairs when one of the most intelligent men in the country, Larry Elder, loses the election.LA beach is way nicer than Miami beach, especially during the summer. You can barely breathe with how hot and humid it is. Maybe I just went at a bad time? Been there 4 times: twice for conferences and twice for cruises. The two times I went in the summer the weather was horrible.

[fsvr54]

NOPE. Nobody from California calls it “Cali”, and nobody says “out here”.
Valley Go Home!


ps - Larry Elder, ROFLMFAO!!!
Why are you Cons so enamored with talk show hosts? Do their rich baritone voices make you moist?

Why are you libs so against any Con or capitalist? Larry Elder is extremely intelligent, go look at his youtube channel.

And, yes, jademaster, Miami weather is absolutely horrid. Can't wait to leave for good next year.

[Norcaliblunt]

NOPE. Nobody from California calls it “Cali”, and nobody says “out here”.
Valley Go Home!


ps - Larry Elder, ROFLMFAO!!!
Why are you Cons so enamored with talk show hosts? Do their rich baritone voices make you moist?

Lol. You know what’s up, and yup I am from the valley’s. San Joaquin and San Fernando stand up!!!!! Hipster ph ag git’s from SF and LA call it just California. Are you a hipster, think you’re cool, douchebag, epitome of the “California ph ag it” stereotype? Because they are the ones who don’t say Cali.

[72-10]

I'm surprised considering they'd had the smog problem since the '70s, angling west of the Sierra Nevadas.

[Norcaliblunt]

Sad state of affairs when one of the most intelligent men in the country, Larry Elder, loses the election.

He wasn’t smart enough to shut up and not spew extreme conservative shit like killing the minimum wage. Lol. Dude is a complete imbecile if he thought that was winning rhetoric in California.

[Norcaliblunt]

I'm surprised considering they'd had the smog problem since the '70s, angling west of the Sierra Nevadas.

Lol. This is what I’m talking about. There have been just as bad of times if not worse times. Pollution/smog as bad as it is, used to be way worse.

[fsvr54]

He wasn’t smart enough to shut up and not spew extreme conservative shit like killing the minimum wage. Lol. Dude is a complete imbecile if he thought that was winning rhetoric in California.

Shouldn't hold your constituents to low standards. They should actually research his economics before having knee-jerk reactions.

[Norcaliblunt]

Shouldn't hold your constituents to low standards. They should actually research his economics before having knee-jerk reactions.

Dude spewed conservative dumb shit economics in a recall about closures and vaccines. He lost because he’s stupid

[Norcaliblunt]

Good for you man. Personally, I don't give a f about living on the beach (I'm from Florida).

That sounds like a Florida problem. Lol. Don’t project your bullshit onto my state. If you living coastal in California, you doing good. Far from insane. Probably more sane.

[Cleverness]

I've lived in California for most of my life. The homeless situation is the worst it has been for as long as I can remember.

https://twitter.com/JennyChachan/status/1428774094145613826

[Norcaliblunt]

I've lived in California for most of my life. The homeless situation is the worst it has been for as long as I can remember.

https://twitter.com/JennyChachan/status/1428774094145613826


Yeah maybe where you are at in your sheltered ass area. Fools who’ve lived in places that aren't your booshy ass neighborhoods know this shit has been going on forever.

[Norcaliblunt]

And if y’all tripping on homeless why don’t you invite them into your home. I’m sure you got an extra bed. Put your money where your mouth is and help someone out. Give them a place to sleep. Come on conservatives clean up the streets.

[Norcaliblunt]

San Francisco isn’t even a million people. You are judging a whole state of 40 mill based on a city that has less then 900 thousand. It’s hilarious. Lol. You talk all that shit but you ain’t gonna come to the red part of this state. I dare you to move from SF to Stockton or Modesto. Lol.

[Rocket]

Hopefully everyone who is leaving The Peoples Republic of California realizes why it has become so bad and votes accordingly in their new states. California is a lost cause do to decades of leftish policies.

[fsvr54]

That sounds like a Florida problem. Lol. Don’t project your bullshit onto my state. If you living coastal in California, you doing good. Far from insane. Probably more sane.

I'll take a Florida problem over a Cali one any day .

[JohnnySic]

Hopefully everyone who is leaving The Peoples Republic of California realizes why it has become so bad and votes accordingly in their new states. California is a lost cause do to decades of leftish policies.

Californians have ruined many other western states, with Colorado being the most egregious example.

[Rocket]

Californians have ruined many other western states, with Colorado being the most egregious example.
No doubt. They are way too stupid to realize why California became such a shit hole so they are turning their new states into shit holes.

[fsvr54]

Californians have ruined many other western states, with Colorado being the most egregious example.

People in Idaho are PISSED too.

[Off the Court]

When is the last time you were in California Rocket? What about you JohnnyHick?

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't recall people in any other state having to use an app that tells them where there is human feces on the sidewalk so that they can avoid that area.


Only in California. Oh? What's that you say? You don't believe me?? https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/snapcrap-lets-you-take-pictures-of-poop-on-sidewalks-and-report-it-to-the-city/ :oldlol:

[j3lademaster]

When money isn’t the issue, most people flock to California. If you’re homeless, you may as well be homeless in CA if you have ‘**** you’ money, you buy a pretentious home with a view on the hills. My cousin and her husband make the same as us, and they’re willing to live in CA with their 7500/mo mortgage. Sure, it may not be specifically for ‘you’, but it’s asinine to think the majority of people wouldn’t love to live there.

[Cleverness]

Yeah maybe where you are at in your sheltered ass area. Fools who’ve lived in places that aren't your booshy ass neighborhoods know this shit has been going on forever.

Thanks, but I've lived in many places in southern and northern CA, including good and bad neighborhoods. Sounds like you've spent all your life in Skid Row and think there hasn't been much change in the state over the last 15 years.

[Nanners]

San Francisco isn’t even a million people. You are judging a whole state of 40 mill based on a city that has less then 900 thousand. It’s hilarious. Lol. You talk all that shit but you ain’t gonna come to the red part of this state. I dare you to move from SF to Stockton or Modesto. Lol.

The bay area has a population of almost 8m, almost 1/5th of the entire state lives in the bay... and the homeless problem is not isolated to just SF - in Oakland and Berkeley the situation is almost as apocalyptic as SF, and many other suburbs have serious problems.

Also, if you are trying to argue that there is not an exodus from California, then pointing out that Stockton and Modesto are somehow even more shitty than SF is not exactly helping your position.

[Norcaliblunt]

Idk. It’s weird when fools tell you, you live in hell when I actually live in paradise. Y’all can keep complaining but I live right here next to the beach and ain’t ever seen shit on the sidewalk.

Good luck where you guys are at. Lol.

And yes I lived midwest. Cali aside from price kills y’all.

[Norcaliblunt]

It’s like California and Florida wanna get hated on by everyone. Paradise beach communities. Yeah crazy shit happens in these spots. That’s what makes it fun.

[Cleverness]

Idk. It’s weird when fools tell you, you live in hell when I actually live in paradise. Y’all can keep complaining but I live right here next to the beach and ain’t ever seen shit on the sidewalk.

Good luck where you guys are at. Lol.

And yes I lived midwest. Cali aside from price kills y’all.

heh. I never said it's hell here. What I'm sayin' is the homeless situation has gotten progressively worse in California, especially over these past 5-10 years.

[Nanners]

heh. I never said it's hell here. What I'm sayin' is the homeless situation has gotten progressively worse in California, especially over these past 5-10 years.

"But I live in a nice neighborhood next to the beach, so you can keep complaining but as far as I am concerned homelessness and those other problems dont exist"

:oldlol:

[JohnnySic]

California is a shithole unless you're rich. Stop complicating shit.

Even shithole countries are great when you have money. Its not saying much.

[Off the Court]

California is a shithole unless you're rich. Stop complicating shit.

Even shithole countries are great when you have money. Its not saying much.
I bet his surroundings are better than yours in Boston especially as winter approaches. But you saw a meme with some homeless tents so you know Cali.