Why doesn't the left talk about this?

[oldtimer28]

Seeing as the left seem to be brainwashed believers in their feelings versus reality, how do you explain this...

Say climate change is man made (highly dubious but just a hypothetical for this discussion). Why are other countries transitioning to renewables (higher cost, especially without subsidies) - whilst China is increasing consumption generally?

https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/renewables-vs-coal-g20-nations/

At what point would the left stop attacking the West and focus on the current issues that China are creating? (I know China has 'promised' to transition to renewables over the next 30-40 years but who would be able to hold them accountable and how?)

Climate change seems to conveniently create the need for world police/one world government...

[SATAN]

You are a ****ing idiot of the highest order.

[Chick Stern]

Sorry, once a person starts spouting that it is dubious that climate change is man made, and then follows it up with one world conspiracy theories, they can be easily dismissed.

[tontoz]

:roll: @ OP calling other people brainwashed. He literally has 7 threads he started on the front page.

[Jasper]

Seeing as the left seem to be brainwashed believers in their feelings versus reality, how do you explain this...

Say climate change is man made (highly dubious but just a hypothetical for this discussion). Why are other countries transitioning to renewables (higher cost, especially without subsidies) - whilst China is increasing consumption generally?

https://elements.visualcapitalist.com/renewables-vs-coal-g20-nations/

At what point would the left stop attacking the West and focus on the current issues that China are creating? (I know China has 'promised' to transition to renewables over the next 30-40 years but who would be able to hold them accountable and how?)

Climate change seems to conveniently create the need for world police/one world government...

please explain to me after 9/11 occurred 20 years ago , and all planes were grounded , a study was made and found that air quality improved significantly ??:confusedshrug:

[BigKobeFan]

You're a sociopath virgin RRR3/Axe:roll:

[theman93]

please explain to me after 9/11 occurred 20 years ago , and all planes were grounded , a study was made and found that air quality improved significantly ??:confusedshrug:

Classic bait and switch. And you fell right for it.

Let's say air quality did improve. But by how much? And was it even enough to make an impactful difference?

Meanwhile, under the Patriot Act which was filed quickly after 9/11, more of your rights got stripped away because fear led you to a place of valuing security over freedom. Whether that be security from "terrorism" or "climate change" is irrelevant.


The Patriot Act expands all these exceptions to the probable-cause requirement. Section 215 of the act permits the FBI to go before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for an order to search for "any tangible things" connected to a terrorism suspect. The order would be granted as long as the FBI certifies that the search is "to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities [spying]." But the FBI would not need to meet the stronger standard of probable cause.

The Patriot Act now authorizes this court to issue search orders directed at any U.S. citizen who the FBI believes may be involved in terrorist activities. Such activities may, in part, even involve First Amendment protected acts such as participating in non-violent public protests.

In Section 215, "any tangible things" may include almost any kind of property—such as books, documents, and computers. The FBI may also monitor or seize personal records held by public libraries, bookstores, medical offices, Internet providers, churches, political groups, universities, and other businesses and institutions.

The Patriot Act prohibits third parties served with Section 215 orders such as Internet providers and public librarians to inform anyone that the FBI has conducted a search of their records.

Section 216 of the Patriot Act extends pen-trap orders to include e-mail and web browsing. The FBI can ask Internet service providers to turn over a log of the web sites a person visits and the addresses of e-mail coming to and from the person's computer.

Another area of concern is Section 213 of the Patriot Act. It authorizes so-called "sneak-and-peek" searches for all federal criminal investigations. When applying for a search warrant, officers may show that there is "reasonable cause to believe that providing immediate notification . . . may have an adverse result." If the judge approves, then the FBI can delay notifying a citizen about the search for a "reasonable period." Thus, the FBI may search a citizen's home or business in secret. The FBI says these searches may be necessary to prevent the destruction of evidence or to keep from jeopardizing an ongoing secret investigation.

https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-19-4-a-the-patriot-act-what-is-the-proper-balance-between-national-security-and-individual-rig

Keep fighting for that climate change though. :lol

Oh, and the FBI is totally your friend and this has nothing to do moving towards a surveillance police state. :lol

[fsvr54]

Climate change has happened for millenia.

Why do you think Turkic hordes traveled West towards Europe? Their pastureland was drying up

[Patrick Chewing]

The planet has survived meteor strikes for billions of years. Strikes that have superheated the Earth's atmosphere to thousands of degrees Fahrenheit.

But people who don't know what gender they are, are supposedly now the experts on climate change and who honestly think the Earth only has a few years left. :roll:.

[Nanners]

Leftist elites like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, Bloomberg, Musk, etc...each have carbon footprints equivalent to hundreds or thousands of average american households. When you fly private ~150 times a year, own 5-10 mansions, own or regularly rent a superyacht, and have dozens of staff catering to your every need 24/7, you have no business telling anyone else that their carbon footprint is too large.

[oldtimer28]

Leftist elites like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, Bloomberg, Musk, etc...each have carbon footprints equivalent to hundreds or thousands of average american households. When you fly private ~150 times a year, own 5-10 mansions, own or regularly rent a superyacht, and have dozens of staff catering to your every need 24/7, you have no business telling anyone else that their carbon footprint is too large.


Completely agree - do you think the young are brainwashed though or do people know about the irrationality?

[Nanners]

Completely agree - do you think the young are brainwashed though or do people know about the irrationality?

I dunno really, but I would bet there are a lot of young folks who can recognize the absurdity of the modern climate movement. From what I have seen, the zoomers are not oblivious to the fact that society has left them virtually no foothold or anything resembling optimism.

[ShawkFactory]

The planet has survived meteor strikes for billions of years. Strikes that have superheated the Earth's atmosphere to thousands of degrees Fahrenheit.

But people who don't know what gender they are, are supposedly now the experts on climate change and who honestly think the Earth only has a few years left. :roll:.

The idea is not about whether or not the planet will survive :lol

Fvck you talking about

[oldtimer28]

I dunno really, but I would bet there are a lot of young folks who can recognize the absurdity of the modern climate movement. From what I have seen, the zoomers are not oblivious to the fact that society has left them virtually no foothold or anything resembling optimism.

Teenagers are committing suicide in Australia, especially with lockdowns but the information is suppressed generally.

[Nanners]

Teenagers are committing suicide in Australia, especially with lockdowns but the information is suppressed generally.

Yeah the same thing is happening here... but since its mostly white males that are offing themselves the media and politicians dont give a shit (if anything they welcome these suicides)

[SATAN]

Yeah the same thing is happening here... but since its mostly white males that are offing themselves the media and politicians dont give a shit (if anything they welcome these suicides)

Scott Morrison cares about OP. It's who he voted for after all. The one ruining his life. :oldlol:

:facepalm

[SATAN]

The Prime Minister is Australia is literally nicknamed Scummo because he's a corrupt right wing fascist religious nut job. You can't make this shit up.

"Scummo"

[Jasper]

Classic bait and switch. And you fell right for it.

Let's say air quality did improve. But by how much? And was it even enough to make an impactful difference?

Meanwhile, under the Patriot Act which was filed quickly after 9/11, more of your rights got stripped away because fear led you to a place of valuing security over freedom. Whether that be security from "terrorism" or "climate change" is irrelevant.

Keep fighting for that climate change though. :lol

Oh, and the FBI is totally your friend and this has nothing to do moving towards a surveillance police state. :lol

you failed - He asked a question , and I answered him , he doesn't want to stand up and say that no flight law did not affect climate is looking for his own moral answers, to make himself look good(.)

[j3lademaster]

Leftist elites like Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, Bloomberg, Musk, etc...each have carbon footprints equivalent to hundreds or thousands of average american households. When you fly private ~150 times a year, own 5-10 mansions, own or regularly rent a superyacht, and have dozens of staff catering to your every need 24/7, you have no business telling anyone else that their carbon footprint is too large.So you do see that these people are the enemy, why do you keep voting for their tax cuts? No one champions against Amazon like Bernie, why do you hate him? When Bezos wanted to build his Amazon headquarters and threatened to go elsewhere if NY didn't subsidize his taxes, AOC told him to stick it when a bunch of morons crucified her because 'Bezos is taking those jobs with him to another city'. And guess what Bezos didn't go elsewhere. He built in NY still because he's not building his headquarters in a shithole in Kentucky.

Taxing them doesn't make billionaires leave. They want you to believe that, sure. The most prosperous era in US history was when FDR presented the New Deal which taxed the rich 90%. And guess what? The rich hid their money overseas and paid taxes on money they couldn't hide. McConnell is pro billionaire just as much as Manchin is. This red vs blue thing is a smokescreen to keep everyone fighting. Billionaires don't bring value to society, they're simply leeches. Their companies are powerful as they are because they monopolize the educated talent in the USA.

[bladefd]

So you do see that these people are the enemy, why do you keep voting for their tax cuts? No one champions against Amazon like Bernie, why do you hate him? When Bezos wanted to build his Amazon headquarters and threatened to go elsewhere if NY didn't subsidize his taxes, AOC told him to stick it when a bunch of morons crucified her because 'Bezos is taking those jobs with him to another city'. And guess what Bezos didn't go elsewhere. He built in NY still because he's not building his headquarters in a shithole in Kentucky.

Taxing them doesn't make billionaires leave. They want you to believe that, sure. The most prosperous era in US history was when FDR presented the New Deal which taxed the rich 90%. And guess what? The rich hid their money overseas and paid taxes on money they couldn't hide. McConnell is pro billionaire just as much as Manchin is. This red vs blue thing is a smokescreen to keep everyone fighting. Billionaires don't bring value to society, they're simply leeches. Their companies are powerful as they are because they monopolize the educated talent in the USA.

Billionaires were also supposed to create all these wonderful paying jobs through trickle-down economics once we cut their taxes & slashing environmental laws, and the wealth would trickle down to everyone else.. So much for that over the last 40yrs :oldlol:

What ended up happening? Billionaires pocketed the extra money, placed a lot of it in overseas bank accounts, and very little if anything trickled down to enrichen others. Rich have not only gotten significantly richer over the last 40yrs, but their wealth growth rate has significantly increased. They have done all they could to eat up 90% of the wealth, while the rest of us are stuck down here fighting like dogs over the 10% leftovers tossed down to us.

They are going nowhere. Where will they run off to from the US, the wealthiest nation in the history of this planet? China? Russia? Norway? Germany? Australia? :oldlol:
It's an empty threat to keep control over you fools by continuing with these tax-cuts that benefit them and keep pushing to slash everything but the military. Speaking of the military, that's another reason why the vast majority is not leaving after being safe here for generations.