Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #11

[dankok8]

List:

#1 - Michael Jordan
#2 - Lebron James
#3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
#4 - Bill Russell
#5 - Wilt Chamberlain
#6 - Magic Johnson
#7 - Shaquille O'Neal
#8 - Tim Duncan
#9 - Larry Bird
#10 - Hakeem Olajuwon
#11 - NOW VOTING

For a full player pool and vote breakdowns see the link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARaI3VCNauULLYL1Yu24HIRY768FYQdip56sp6uRFGk/edit?usp=sharing).

Everyone may post in this thread but only votes from serious contributors will be considered. Not everyone has to write an essay but there should be some justification or explanation and some coherent arguments being presented. I encourage people to be open-minded and willing to adjust their rankings in response to strong evidence. Debate and discussion is encouraged.

Opening Vote Tally

Kobe Bryant - 11 (jalbert009, Manny98, kuniva_dAMiGhTy, hold this L, lilblingy, imdaman99, MadDog, Nike D'Antoni, Magic is Magic, Taurus, Gudo)
Oscar Robertson - 1 (L. Kizzle)

[dankok8]

I'm voting for Kobe here.

[1987_Lakers]

Overall not a bad top 10. The top 4 is perfect, I would have had Wilt a couple of spots lower, Shaq & Duncan ahead of Magic, but pretty good top 10 overall.

I vote Kobe for #11.

[jlip]

Kobe

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Bird should be higher imo.

Woulda went with Kobe at 10 as well, but 11 isn't really different. Its just the top 10 allure.

Great list so far.

[RRR3]

I’m sure Kobe will win but I’m going to be controversial and vote for Stephen Curry. I truly don’t think most realize how good he is.

[SouBeachTalents]

Kobe

[Phoenix]

Kobe, before Kenny offs himself.

[8Ball]

Koby

[Manny98]

I’m sure Kobe will win but I’m going to be controversial and vote for Stephen Curry. I truly don’t think most realize how good he is.

:roll:

[RRR3]

:roll:
Take a look at the impact stats.

[ArbitraryWater]

Oscar

[8Ball]

I’m sure Kobe will win but I’m going to be controversial and vote for Stephen Curry. I truly don’t think most realize how good he is.

Curry and Durant are in the top 15.

[RRR3]

Curry and Durant are in the top 15.
I clown on Curry all the time but I stand by what I said. He’s never going to get the credit he deserves sadly but he’s the only player I’ve ever seen that made me question whether LeBron was the best player I saw. LeBron still is because of defense but Curry legitimately might be the best offensive player to ever live. Shame he’ll never get credit because of silly narratives. Impact stats suggest he’s quite clearly superior to Durant but almost no one will ever acknowledge it sadly.

[dankok8]

Final Vote Tally

Kobe Bryant - 18 (jalbert009, Manny98, kuniva_dAMiGhTy, hold this L, lilblingy, imdaman99, MadDog, Nike D'Antoni, Magic is Magic, Taurus, Gudo, dankok8, 1987_Lakers, jlip, SouBeachTalents, Phoenix, 8Ball, Lebron23)
Oscar Robertson - 2 (L. Kizzle, ArbitraryWater)
Stephen Curry - 1 (RRR3)

Kobe wins. Thread #12 is now open.

[Lebron23]

Kobe

[Airupthere]

Kobe

[3ba11]

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PLAYOFF PPG

87' Worthy..... 23.6
87' Magic...... 21.8

01' Kobe........ 29.4
01' Shaq........ 30.4

86' McHale.... 24.9
86' Bird.......... 25.1

16' Kyrie........ 25.2
16' Lebron..... 26.2

11' Wade....... 24.5
11' Lebron..... 23.7

20' AD............ 27.7
20' Lebron..... 27.6


^^^ At some point in everyone's playoff career, they had equal-scoring teammates to attract equal-defensive attention on various playoff runs, and therefore weren't facing maximum defensive attention - any period without max defensive attention are inflated stats compared to Jordan, who faced max defensive coverage for his entire career by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run

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PLAYOFF PPG

87' Worthy..... 23.6
87' Magic...... 21.8

01' Kobe........ 29.4
01' Shaq........ 30.4

86' McHale.... 24.9
86' Bird.......... 25.1

16' Kyrie........ 25.2
16' Lebron..... 26.2

11' Wade....... 24.5
11' Lebron..... 23.7

20' AD............ 27.7
20' Lebron..... 27.6


^^^ At some point in everyone's playoff career, they had equal-scoring teammates to attract equal-defensive attention on various playoff runs, and therefore weren't facing maximum defensive attention - any period without max defensive attention are inflated stats compared to Jordan, who faced max defensive coverage for his entire career by carrying the scoring load in every SERIES, let alone playoff run
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