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ArbitraryWater
09-26-2021, 09:31 AM
He is awakening fellow players about the COVID bullshit, also.

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 10:21 AM
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ArbitraryWater
09-26-2021, 10:32 AM
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8Ball
09-26-2021, 10:33 AM
I love it.

I hope he fights it to the bitter end.

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 10:33 AM
I love it.

I hope he fights it to the bitter end.

Me too. All the way to retirement. Go heat!

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 10:35 AM
"if you get vaxxed, you ain't black"

-joe biden

2ball
09-26-2021, 11:15 AM
"if you get vaxxed, you ain't black"

-joe biden

I see kyrie’s concern now

tontoz
09-26-2021, 11:19 AM
KD must be like wtf was I thinking joining this clown. That is probably why he pushed for the harden trade.

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 11:22 AM
“The NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from the team,” NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar tells Rolling Stone. “There is no room for players who are willing to risk the health and lives of their teammates, the staff and the fans simply because they are unable to grasp the seriousness of the situation or do the necessary research. (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/) What I find especially disingenuous about the vaccine deniers is their arrogance at disbelieving immunology and other medical experts. Yet, if their child was sick or they themselves needed emergency medical treatment, how quickly would they do exactly what those same experts told them to do?”
– via Matt Sullivan @ Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/)

warriorfan
09-26-2021, 12:33 PM
“The NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from the team,” NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar tells Rolling Stone. “There is no room for players who are willing to risk the health and lives of their teammates, the staff and the fans simply because they are unable to grasp the seriousness of the situation or do the necessary research. (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/) What I find especially disingenuous about the vaccine deniers is their arrogance at disbelieving immunology and other medical experts. Yet, if their child was sick or they themselves needed emergency medical treatment, how quickly would they do exactly what those same experts told them to do?”
– via Matt Sullivan @ Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/)

Cuckreem. Funny part is if he was 25 years old and strong as ever he would be telling everyone to **** off and that allah will protect him. Now that he’s an old feeble man and someone told him he has a 1 in 20 chance of dying if he gets it… he cries and goes on and on about how everyone needs to get the shot.

Coward.

3ba11
09-26-2021, 12:57 PM
Cuckreem. Funny part is if he was 25 years old and strong as ever he would be telling everyone to **** off and that allah will protect him. Now that he’s an old feeble man and someone told him he has a 1 in 20 chance of dying if he gets it… he cries and goes on and on about how everyone needs to get the shot.

Coward.


Boom.. so true

Real Men Wear Green
09-26-2021, 01:28 PM
Cuckreem. Funny part is if he was 25 years old and strong as ever he would be telling everyone to **** off and that allah will protect him. Now that he’s an old feeble man and someone told him he has a 1 in 20 chance of dying if he gets it… he cries and goes on and on about how everyone needs to get the shot.

Coward.If he was 25 years old and an idiot like you that may be true but such is not the case.

NugzFan
09-26-2021, 01:33 PM
Just a quick question to the anti vax crowd:

What exactly are you worried about when it comes to getting vaccinated? Potential health issues down the line?

Genuine question.

Chick Stern
09-26-2021, 02:25 PM
Just a quick question to the anti vax crowd:

What exactly are you worried about when it comes to getting vaccinated? Potential health issues down the line?

Genuine question.
The internets told them it was bad

Real Men Wear Green
09-26-2021, 02:44 PM
Just a quick question to the anti vax crowd:

What exactly are you worried about when it comes to getting vaccinated? Potential health issues down the line?

Genuine question.I wonder what the anti-vax will do the next time they feel sick? Will they go to the same doctor that is telling them to get vaccinated for covid? They can treat your flu, diagnose the origins of that rash, prescribe heart medication or treat diabetels but you won't trust them now?

And do these people remember when they went to elementary school, how many vaccinations they got? I have a few kids myself and can tell you that these days a child will go to the doctor for a variety of different vaccinations before they can even talk. My youngest isn't two yet and he's already had at least three different vaccination shots.

And how many of these people worried about the government tracking them own a smart phone? It's just nuts.

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 02:59 PM
Just a quick question to the anti vax crowd:

What exactly are you worried about when it comes to getting vaccinated? Potential health issues down the line?

Genuine question.

Not taking the covid vaccine doesn't make you an anti-vaxer

The vaccine does not stop transmission or prevent infection

The amount of vaccine injuries are a major concern and there's a lot good information that it is being under reported

The intrusion on personal rights/freedoms - We are essentially giving up her bodies to government and pharmaceutical companies to inject us ad infinitum. If this doesn't terrify you I don't know what will. You need a vax pass to have access to livings essentials and if you do not take this dose well too bad for you. That is as dystopian as it gets my friends and not to push back is a major mistake but hey the news media now wants to tell you the truth.

:banghead:

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 03:06 PM
I wonder what the anti-vax will do the next time they feel sick? Will they go to the same doctor that is telling them to get vaccinated for covid? They can treat your flu, diagnose the origins of that rash, prescribe heart medication or treat diabetels but you won't trust them now?

And do these people remember when they went to elementary school, how many vaccinations they got? I have a few kids myself and can tell you that these days a child will go to the doctor for a variety of different vaccinations before they can even talk. My youngest isn't two yet and he's already had at least three different vaccination shots.

And how many of these people worried about the government tracking them own a smart phone? It's just nuts.

They've got many options. Bleach, horse de-wormer and now iodine. **** science!

tontoz
09-26-2021, 03:12 PM
Not taking the covid vaccine doesn't make you an anti-vaxer

The vaccine does not stop transmission or prevent infection

The amount of vaccine injuries are a major concern and there's a lot good information that it is being under reported

The intrusion on personal rights/freedoms - We are essentially giving up her bodies to government and pharmaceutical companies to inject us ad infinitum. If this doesn't terrify you I don't know what will. You need a vax pass to have access to livings essentials and if you do not take this dose well too bad for you. That is as dystopian as it gets my friends and not to push back is a major mistake but hey the news media now wants to tell you the truth.

:banghead:


Lol one of the antivaxers created an alt so people wouldn't know who is actually responding. Isn't that cute.

NugzFan
09-26-2021, 03:15 PM
Not taking the covid vaccine doesn't make you an anti-vaxer

Fair enough but my question was directed to those against covid vaccine


The vaccine does not stop transmission or prevent infection

True but it still helps the community far more than it hurts


The amount of vaccine injuries are a major concern and there's a lot good information that it is being under reported

True but the frequency and severity of the injuries/illness of the unvaccinated far outweighs those who got vaccinated.


The intrusion on personal rights/freedoms - We are essentially giving up her bodies to government and pharmaceutical companies to inject us ad infinitum. If this doesn't terrify you I don't know what will. You need a vax pass to have access to livings essentials and if you do not take this dose well too bad for you. That is as dystopian as it gets my friends and not to push back is a major mistake but hey the news media now wants to tell you the truth.

:banghead:

And there it is. ThatÂ’s the answer I expected. I got vaccinated and no, there have been no intrusions on my personal rights.

I hope we get to the point where the unvaccinated are not allowed in any events. Their selfishness is the only thing affecting my personal rights.

NugzFan
09-26-2021, 03:16 PM
They've got many options. Bleach, horse de-wormer and now iodine. **** science!


Im ok with them using those “cures”. It helps keep the covid rates down. Can’t have covid if you’re dead

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 03:23 PM
Im ok with them using those “cures”. It helps keep the covid rates down. Can’t have covid if you’re dead

yep and horse de-wormer is supposed to make them sterile as well. Dead or unable to have kids. Win win!

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 03:30 PM
Fair enough but my question was directed to those against covid vaccine



True but it still helps the community far more than it hurts



True but the frequency and severity of the injuries/illness of the unvaccinated far outweighs those who got vaccinated.



And there it is. ThatÂ’s the answer I expected. I got vaccinated and no, there have been no intrusions on my personal rights.

I hope we get to the point where the unvaccinated are not allowed in any events. Their selfishness is the only thing affecting my personal rights.

You don't find maintaining private medical records a personal right?

Here in Canada those without the vaccine are not allowed access to non-essential services. Another personal right. How long until this dictatorship decides your bank account is frozen because you haven't take the experimental vaccine.

You may feel that your personal freedoms of not been intruded upon at this time however the loss of personal governance is not wiped away over night - it's a tip toe process. Maybe look up the boiling frog analogy because you only seem to think short term and it's people like you that are the true danger to society.

Explain how not taking the vaccine is selfish?

warriorfan
09-26-2021, 03:30 PM
Just a quick question to the anti vax crowd:

What exactly are you worried about when it comes to getting vaccinated? Potential health issues down the line?

Genuine question.
99.99% survival rate. I’m not dying from Covid. I’ve had it already and it wasn’t bad. Thousands upon thousands of people with compromised health die from respiratory illnesses every year. This has been a thing long before Covid. Old and unhealthy people get sick, and they die sometimes. If the vaccine works then those at risk people should get it and they are fine. It’s completely unnecessary for a healthy individual to get the vaccine.

The only question I will come back with to you is….do you know what are all the potential side effects from MRNA vaccinations? Are there conclusive studies to refer to that have data from clinical trials taken over 3-5 years? If not then what are the chances you believe that no long term effects can arise? Is it 99.99%? If not then wouldn’t it be better to avoid the vaccination for now until more conclusive long term studies have been completed? Or if it’s so close to a push wouldn’t it be better to not rush into anything and wait and see until the proper amount of data has been collected and analyzed?

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 03:33 PM
yep and horse de-wormer is supposed to make them sterile as well. Dead or unable to have kids. Win win!

Most pharmaceuticals have both human and veterinary application. Calling it a horse de-wormer only proves how stupid you truly are.

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 03:36 PM
If he was 25 years old and an idiot like you that may be true but such is not the case.

Bang!

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 03:36 PM
Most pharmaceuticals have both human and veterinary application. Calling it a horse de-wormer only proves how stupid you truly are.

people aren't getting it from doctors. They are getting it from the same sources people with horses are and taking it in doses meant for animals not humans

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 03:38 PM
people aren't getting it from doctors. They are getting it from the same sources people with horses are and taking it in doses meant for animals not humans

Your isolating one small portion of the population who is yes very stupid

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 03:40 PM
Your isolating one small portion of the population who is yes very stupid

anyone not getting vaccinated is stupid and it's not a small portion

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 03:48 PM
Shams Charania: Phoenix Suns star Devin Booker will miss time to start training camp this upcoming week due to health and safety protocols (https://*********.com/social/).

– via Twitter ShamsCharania (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania)



yet another dummy apparently

tontoz
09-26-2021, 03:48 PM
I wonder what the anti-vax will do the next time they feel sick? Will they go to the same doctor that is telling them to get vaccinated for covid? They can treat your flu, diagnose the origins of that rash, prescribe heart medication or treat diabetels but you won't trust them now?

And do these people remember when they went to elementary school, how many vaccinations they got? I have a few kids myself and can tell you that these days a child will go to the doctor for a variety of different vaccinations before they can even talk. My youngest isn't two yet and he's already had at least three different vaccination shots.

And how many of these people worried about the government tracking them own a smart phone? It's just nuts.


Exactly if they get in a bad car wreck they will be more than happy to let the doctors and nurses take care of them. But if those same doctors and nurses urge them to get vaxed all of a sudden.they are part of the conspiracy.

:facepalm

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 03:59 PM
anyone not getting vaccinated is stupid and it's not a small portion

And you openly celebrate the deaths of those people who are unvaccinated or who seek out alternative treatments measures. Stay classy buddy :pimp:

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 04:02 PM
Exactly if they get in a bad car wreck they will be more than happy to let the doctors and nurses take care of them. But if those same doctors and nurses urge them to get vaxed all of a sudden.they are part of the conspiracy.

:facepalm

Why do government and FDA censor and block proven alternative treatments that could have said thousands of lives and you have no problem with that and don't bother calling them out?

tontoz
09-26-2021, 04:04 PM
Why do government and FDA censor and block proven alternative treatments that could have said thousands of lives and you have no problem with that and don't bother calling them out?


I assume you are talking about Ivermectin. I didn't realize the FDA had the power to block doctors from using Ivermectin. I guess that doctor in Houston must have found a loophole because he treated over 1k patients with Ivermectin.

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 04:06 PM
And you openly celebrate the deaths of those people who are unvaccinated or who seek out alternative treatments measures. Stay classy buddy :pimp:

yep. **** all of ya. We'd be done with this shit if everyone got vaccinated. Sooner you die the sooner we can get on with our lives

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 04:07 PM
yep. **** all of ya. We'd be done with this shit if everyone got vaccinated. Sooner you die the sooner we can get on with our lives

Congratulations, you are truly an awful human being.

FultzNationRISE
09-26-2021, 04:10 PM
I wonder what the anti-vax will do the next time they feel sick? Will they go to the same doctor that is telling them to get vaccinated for covid? They can treat your flu, diagnose the origins of that rash, prescribe heart medication or treat diabetels but you won't trust them now?
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And do these people remember when they went to elementary school, how many vaccinations they got? I have a few kids myself and can tell you that these days a child will go to the doctor for a variety of different vaccinations before they can even talk. My youngest isn't two yet and he's already had at least three different vaccination shots.

And how many of these people worried about the government tracking them own a smart phone? It's just nuts.

You refuse the testosterone your doc prescribes you.

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 04:10 PM
Congratulations, you are truly an awful human being.

no I'm vaccinated. I wear a mask when I'm asked to. I social distanced for over a year. I've done my part. Waiting on the rest of you assholes

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 04:13 PM
I assume you are talking about Ivermectin. I didn't realize the FDA had the power to block doctors from using Ivermectin. I guess that doctor in Houston must have found a loophole because he treated over 1k patients with Ivermectin.

So you have no problem with the government and FDA not recommending it and telling the general public it's dangerous and untested?

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 04:16 PM
no I'm vaccinated. I wear a mask when I'm asked to. I social distanced for over a year. I've done my part. Waiting on the rest of you assholes

and celebrate the deaths of individuals who do not not share your myopic perspective

tontoz
09-26-2021, 04:22 PM
So you have no problem with the government and FDA not recommending it and telling the general public it's dangerous and untested?


But i thought they were blocking it?

Given that people are ingesting horse paste i can see why they are saying it can be dangerous. They are running trials on Ivermectin as we speak. In the meantime doctors have their choice about whether to use ivermectin or not. They aren't being blocked by the govt or the FDA.

SouBeachTalents
09-26-2021, 04:25 PM
It'll be fun arguing about vaccines all season

8Ball
09-26-2021, 04:28 PM
And you openly celebrate the deaths of those people who are unvaccinated or who seek out alternative treatments measures. Stay classy buddy :pimp:

2000 of you anti vaxxers die every day in muricah cuz yall dont want the shot.

Hey Yo
09-26-2021, 04:31 PM
“The NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from the team,” NBA legend Kareem Abdul-Jabbar tells Rolling Stone. “There is no room for players who are willing to risk the health and lives of their teammates, the staff and the fans simply because they are unable to grasp the seriousness of the situation or do the necessary research. (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/) What I find especially disingenuous about the vaccine deniers is their arrogance at disbelieving immunology and other medical experts. Yet, if their child was sick or they themselves needed emergency medical treatment, how quickly would they do exactly what those same experts told them to do?”
– via Matt Sullivan @ Rolling Stone (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/nba-anti-vaxxers-covid-1231988/)

As far as Kareem's quote goes.... last season there was no vax requirement and I don't recall any amount of players or staff hospitalized, ready to croak at any moment. Not saying it couldn't happen but it didnt last season when players were rubbing elbows.

FTR.... I don't care either way what people choose to do/don't do.

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 04:36 PM
and celebrate the deaths of individuals who do not not share your myopic perspective


celebrate the deaths of those that are ****ing it up for the rest of us. If you're dying because you don't believe in science or to own the libs or whatever the **** your reasons are I feel no pity for ya. Sorry dumb asses!

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 04:37 PM
As far as Kareem's quote goes.... last season there was no vax requirement and I don't recall any amount of players or staff hospitalized, ready to croak at any moment. Not saying it couldn't happen but it didnt last season when players were rubbing elbows.

FTR.... I don't care either way what people choose to do/don't do.

Delta virus is worse

Hey Yo
09-26-2021, 04:45 PM
Delta virus is worse

Allegedly...

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 04:52 PM
Allegedly...

Not much doubt. Despite vaccinations ICU's can't keep up. Certainly worse here than it's ever been. Mostly non-vaccinated while non critical surgeries are put on hold. **** you!

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 05:08 PM
Vaccinated people are laughing at the unvaxxed at this point.

Hey Yo
09-26-2021, 05:08 PM
Not much doubt. Despite vaccinations ICU's can't keep up. Certainly worse here than it's ever been. Mostly non-vaccinated while non critical surgeries are put on hold. **** you!

Fvck me?? No... FVCK YOU!!

Worse than it's ever been?? Exactly how many deaths has delta been accounted for, Dr. Fauci??

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 05:09 PM
But i thought they were blocking it?

Given that people are ingesting horse paste i can see why they are saying it can be dangerous. They are running trials on Ivermectin as we speak. In the meantime doctors have their choice about whether to use ivermectin or not. They aren't being blocked by the govt or the FDA.

Lol alright then. Keep on acting like there's nothing wrong with the FDA straight up hiding life saving treatments from the general public. There has been over 60 clinical trials already and almost all of them showed positive results.

You have such an unconditional trust for the Government that you are willing to turn a blind eye to all the lies and censorship they are doing, even if it leads to multiple deaths. That Houston doctor you mentioned only had a 6% death rate among critically ill patients in his hospital ICU compared to the 18-20% death rate for the nation average. Why aren't we looking into it more?

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 05:12 PM
Lol alright then. Keep on acting like there's nothing wrong with the FDA straight up hiding life saving treatments from the general public. There has been over 60 clinical trials already and almost all of them showed positive results.

You have such an unconditional trust for the Government that you are willing to turn a blind eye to all the lies and censorship they are doing, even if it leads to multiple deaths. That Houston doctor you mentioned only had a 6% death rate among critically ill patients in his hospital ICU compared to the 18-20% death rate for the nation average. Why aren't we looking into it more?


when they die or become sterile from drinking bleach, iodine or horse de-wormer it's certainly a positive result! :cheers:

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 05:13 PM
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Sick of the topic. See you in hell.

tontoz
09-26-2021, 05:14 PM
Lol alright then. Keep on acting like there's nothing wrong with the FDA straight up hiding life saving treatments from the general public. There has been over 60 clinical trials already and almost all of them showed positive results.

You have such an unconditional trust for the Government that you are willing to turn a blind eye to all the lies and censorship they are doing, even if it leads to multiple deaths. That Houston doctor you mentioned only had a 6% death rate among critically ill patients in his hospital ICU compared to the 18-20% death rate for the nation average. Why aren't we looking into it more?


First of all that doctor's sample size is pretty small. We don't know how the age/health of his patients stack up against the rest of covid patients in this country.

Secondly he said point blank in the video (4:15 mark if I remember right) that he "threw the kitchen sink" at his patients and wasn't entirely sure what was working.

Ivermectin was just one of the things in his math+ protocol.

The FDA and the government aren't blocking doctors from using ivermectin but that didn't stop you from making that claim. Maybe you are the one that is too biased

FilmyCogTurner
09-26-2021, 05:28 PM
Not much doubt. Despite vaccinations ICU's can't keep up. Certainly worse here than it's ever been. Mostly non-vaccinated while non critical surgeries are put on hold. **** you!

Great reporting Don Lemon, hospital beds are currently at 79% capacity around the country including ICU's.

tontoz
09-26-2021, 05:29 PM
Great reporting Don Lemon, hospital beds are currently at 79% capacity around the country including ICU's.

That includes all states, most of which aren't low IQ with a low vax rate.

tpols
09-26-2021, 05:32 PM
This thread gives me hope. I used to beef with AW and Hey Yo over silly player stuff... Lebron or whatever. Small shit. I'd call that guy the GOAT if it meant them being on my side vs this tyranny.

This is much bigger than basketball.

tpols
09-26-2021, 05:35 PM
Not much doubt. Despite vaccinations ICU's can't keep up. Certainly worse here than it's ever been. Mostly non-vaccinated while non critical surgeries are put on hold. **** you!

You're more cowardly than that French bitch you worship. CCP... **** you bitch. Its in your very name.

Real Men Wear Green
09-26-2021, 05:36 PM
This thread gives me hope. I used to beef with AW and Hey Yo over silly player stuff... Lebron or whatever. Small shit. I'd call that guy the GOAT if it meant them being on my side vs this tyranny.

This is much bigger than basketball.
Neither you nor AW would be trusted with anything beyond playing with crayons so I doubt your revolution is going anywhere. Sorry.

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 05:40 PM
This thread gives me hope. I used to beef with AW and Hey Yo over silly player stuff... Lebron or whatever. Small shit. I'd call that guy the GOAT if it meant them being on my side vs this tyranny.

This is much bigger than basketball.

:roll:

DoctorP
09-26-2021, 05:41 PM
Neither you nor AW would be trusted with anything beyond playing with crayons so I doubt your revolution is going anywhere. Sorry.

Bang!

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 05:41 PM
First of all that doctor's sample size is pretty small. We don't know how the age/health of his patients stack up against the rest of covid patients in this country.

Secondly he said point blank in the video (4:15 mark if I remember right) that he "threw the kitchen sink" at his patients and wasn't entirely sure what was working.

Ivermectin was just one of the things in his math+ protocol.

The FDA and the government aren't blocking doctors from using ivermectin but that didn't stop you from making that claim. Maybe you are the one that is too biased

Your logic makes no sense. So if one of your family members was dying from Covid and there is a doctor that had over 1000 patients that he treated and saved at a rate 3 times higher with his math+ protocol you wouldn't be interested to offer them that treatment? He also never claimed to not know what was working. It's not like he randomly opened his cabinet and threw a random bunch of drugs together. You wouldn't want your own government to look into it faster after 22 months and the dropping efficacy of vaccines against the delta variant?

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 05:41 PM
Great reporting Don Lemon, hospital beds are currently at 79% capacity around the country including ICU's.

filled up here which hasn't happened before

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 05:43 PM
Your logic makes no sense. So if one of your family members was dying from Covid and there is a doctor that had over 1000 patients that he treated and saved at a rate 3 times higher with his math+ protocol you wouldn't be interested to offer them that treatment? You wouldn't want your own government to look into it faster after 22 months and the dropping efficacy of vaccines against the delta variant?

I generally side with MD's not vets when it comes to health of humans

tontoz
09-26-2021, 05:53 PM
Your logic makes no sense. So if one of your family members was dying from Covid and there is a doctor that had over 1000 patients that he treated and saved at a rate 3 times higher with his math+ protocol you wouldn't be interested to offer them that treatment? He also never claimed to not know what was working. It's not like he randomly opened his cabinet and threw a random bunch of drugs together. You wouldn't want your own government to look into it faster after 22 months and the dropping efficacy of vaccines against the delta variant?

He absolutely did say that you didn't hear it because you didn't want to hear it.

From 4:15 to 4:40 in the video he says exactly that. But you aren't biased at all...:facepalm




https://youtu.be/frwkkeH6mwM

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 05:57 PM
I generally side with MD's not vets when it comes to health of humans

That's good to know. You might like this info then: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297521000883

Xiao Yao You
09-26-2021, 06:02 PM
That's good to know. You might like this info then: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2052297521000883

or this

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 06:12 PM
He absolutely did say that you didn't hear it because you didn't want to hear it.

From 4:15 to 4:40 in the video he says exactly that. But you aren't biased at all...:facepalm




https://youtu.be/frwkkeH6mwM

He said: "we don't know exactly what makes the difference". That's not the same as saying: " We don't know what's working". Because obviously what's working is his math+ protocol. There has been studies made on each of the drugs used in his protocol.

Now answer my question: would you be for or against that treatment if one of your family members got extremely sick? And are you OK with government letting it's people die at a rate 3 times higher than the one in his hospital?

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 06:20 PM
or this

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

Or this: https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/lucknow-news/33-districts-in-uttar-pradesh-are-now-covid-free-state-govt-101631267966925.html

Population of 205 millions, 190 total active Covid cases, 3rd world country with less than 20% of the population fully vaxxed.

tontoz
09-26-2021, 06:22 PM
He said: "we don't know exactly what makes the difference". That's not the same as saying: " We don't know what's working". Because obviously what's working is his math+ protocol. There has been studies made on each of the drugs used in his protocol.

Now answer my question: would you be for or against that treatment if one of your family members got extremely sick? And are you OK with government letting it's people die at a rate 3 times higher than the one in his hospital?


Lol whatever dude. You wanted to believe it was ivermectin that was making the difference. The doctor didn't know himself.

The govt isn't telling doctors what to do. They are letting the doctors decide what to do.

Now we get back to the sample size issue, health of the patients etc relative to the typical covid patients.

We know age has a big effect on the COVID death rate. What was the average age of his patients?

SaintzFury13
09-26-2021, 06:27 PM
99.99% survival rate. I’m not dying from Covid. I’ve had it already and it wasn’t bad. Thousands upon thousands of people with compromised health die from respiratory illnesses every year. This has been a thing long before Covid. Old and unhealthy people get sick, and they die sometimes. If the vaccine works then those at risk people should get it and they are fine. It’s completely unnecessary for a healthy individual to get the vaccine.

The only question I will come back with to you is….do you know what are all the potential side effects from MRNA vaccinations? Are there conclusive studies to refer to that have data from clinical trials taken over 3-5 years? If not then what are the chances you believe that no long term effects can arise? Is it 99.99%? If not then wouldn’t it be better to avoid the vaccination for now until more conclusive long term studies have been completed? Or if it’s so close to a push wouldn’t it be better to not rush into anything and wait and see until the proper amount of data has been collected and analyzed?

Are you retarded? Be honest.

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 07:31 PM
Lol whatever dude. You wanted to believe it was ivermectin that was making the difference. The doctor didn't know himself.

The govt isn't telling doctors what to do. They are letting the doctors decide what to do.

Now we get back to the sample size issue, health of the patients etc relative to the typical covid patients.

We know age has a big effect on the COVID death rate. What was the average age of his patients?

Ivermectin did make a difference, as backed up by numerous peer reviewed clinical studies and real life observations. Whether the doctor knew it for sure at the time or not is irrelevant.
September 25th 2021 stats:
Uttar Pradesh in India (uses Ivermectin as prophylaxis): population of 204 million, less than 20% fully vaccinated, 14 total covid cases, 0 deaths

Kerala in India (stopped all Ivermectin use on August 5th): Population of 34 millions, 43% fully vaccinated, 16 670 total Covid cases, 120 deaths

The results are not even arguable.

tontoz
09-26-2021, 07:53 PM
Ivermectin did make a difference, as backed up by numerous peer reviewed clinical studies and real life observations. Whether the doctor knew it for sure at the time or not is irrelevant.
September 25th 2021 stats:
Uttar Pradesh in India (uses Ivermectin as prophylaxis): population of 204 million, less than 20% fully vaccinated, 14 total covid cases, 0 deaths

Kerala in India (stopped all Ivermectin use on August 5th): Population of 34 millions, 43% fully vaccinated, 16 670 total Covid cases, 120 deaths

The results are not even arguable.


So why did the Houston doctor have 86 deaths if they are having so much success with ivermectin in India?

Any word on the average age of that doctor's patients?

Manny98
09-26-2021, 08:25 PM
Just a quick question to the anti vax crowd:

What exactly are you worried about when it comes to getting vaccinated? Potential health issues down the line?

Genuine question.
Maybe some of us already have great immune systems that can easily deal with a virus with a 99.9% survival rate

The real question is why you vax cucks are so concerned about other people not getting the vaccine

Sportal
09-26-2021, 08:28 PM
Great reporting Don Lemon, hospital beds are currently at 79% capacity around the country including ICU's.

Have you really made an alt account because you don't wanna post your nonsense on your main?

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 08:37 PM
So why did the Houston doctor have 86 deaths if they are having so much success with ivermectin in India?

Any word on the average age of that doctor's patients?

Did you see the video that you posted? It said there was no follow up or call for interviews with that doctor once he started mentioning his method of treatment. He basically fell of the radar. If you have any info on the average age of his patients let us know. What we do know so far is that his death rate for critically ill patients is 3 times lower than the State average. Also he was treating a lot of critically ill patients as opposed to using Ivermectin as a prevention method like that India state does.

Lets focus on a bigger sample size from yesterday though:
USA: population of 330 million, 51 000 cases, 629 deaths, 55% fully vaxxed

Uttar Pradesh: 204 million population, 14 total covid cases, 0 deaths, about 18% fully vaxxed

tontoz
09-26-2021, 09:12 PM
There seems to be some skepticism about what is going on in India. Frankly I don't know or care:





FACTCHECK SOCIAL MEDIA

No proof ivermectin and hydroxy ‘regime’ led to COVID decline in India
By AAP FactCheck

June 8, 2021

THE STATEMENT
An Instagram post by an Australian user suggests that falling cases of COVID-19 in India are due to a regime of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin being used as treatments.

The post features a graph of Indian COVID-19 cases and deaths credited to Johns Hopkins University. The chart shows a steep rise in cases before a peak and gradual decline to 24 May.

“This is why India is no longer on the news and why we (in Australia) suddenly have cases,” the post claims. “India started a regime of hydroxychloriquine (sic) nd ivermectin and saw vax hesitancy rise and is looking to re-open ASAP.”

At the time of publication, the post had been liked nearly 500 times and shared more than 14,000 times.

An Instagram post A post suggests falling COVID cases in India are due to hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
THE ANALYSIS
While India’s COVID-19 cases have declined from their peak in early May, there is no evidence a “regime” of the drugs hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are responsible for the fall.

The same period also reflects a time when strict regional health controls were in place in many parts of the country and tens of millions of vaccine doses were rolled out to combat a deadly second wave of the virus.

India’s COVID-19 case count began to rise sharply in mid-March, eventually reaching a peak of more than 400,000 daily diagnoses in early May, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

Since the peak, cases have declined; the same figures put the new case count at 114,000 on June 5. By that date, the number of active cases in the country was around 40 per cent of the peak figure, local media reported.

The true case numbers in India are suspected to be considerably greater than reported due to limited testing, according to analysis by The Associated Press.

The rise in cases led to many states introducing curbs on economic activity and public movement, although the national government shied away from introducing a country-wide lockdown. For example, Delhi’s regional government announced it would extend its curfew on non-essential movement until June 14.


https://www.aap.com.au/no-proof-ivermectin-and-hydroxy-regime-led-to-covid-decline-in-india/

PistonsFan#21
09-26-2021, 10:07 PM
There seems to be some skepticism about what is going on in India. Frankly I don't know or care:



https://www.aap.com.au/no-proof-ivermectin-and-hydroxy-regime-led-to-covid-decline-in-india/

This fact check article is from June 8th. Some India States dropped all Ivermectin use from their regimen on August 5th of this year. Let's take a look one more time at the official numbers reported from the same country between 2 different States:

Uttar Pradesh in India (uses Ivermectin as prophylaxis): population of 204 million, less than 20% fully vaccinated, 14 total covid cases, 0 deaths

Kerala in India (stopped all Ivermectin use on August 5th): Population of 34 millions, 43% fully vaccinated, 16 670 total Covid cases, 120 deaths

Xiao Yao You
09-27-2021, 04:08 PM
Sarah Todd: Donovan Mitchell joins Jordan Clarkson in urging people to get vaccinated “so we can get past this” (https://*********.com/social/)

– via Twitter NBASarah (https://twitter.com/NBASarah)

:cheers:

ArbitraryWater
09-27-2021, 04:11 PM
:cheers:


"lets just do it so its done with!"


:lol

theman93
09-27-2021, 06:43 PM
:cheers:

They’ll never get past it when they have to keep getting booster shots :lol. Fools

Da_Realist
09-27-2021, 10:17 PM
99.99% survival rate. I’m not dying from Covid. I’ve had it already and it wasn’t bad. Thousands upon thousands of people with compromised health die from respiratory illnesses every year. This has been a thing long before Covid. Old and unhealthy people get sick, and they die sometimes. If the vaccine works then those at risk people should get it and they are fine. It’s completely unnecessary for a healthy individual to get the vaccine.

The only question I will come back with to you is….do you know what are all the potential side effects from MRNA vaccinations? Are there conclusive studies to refer to that have data from clinical trials taken over 3-5 years? If not then what are the chances you believe that no long term effects can arise? Is it 99.99%? If not then wouldn’t it be better to avoid the vaccination for now until more conclusive long term studies have been completed? Or if it’s so close to a push wouldn’t it be better to not rush into anything and wait and see until the proper amount of data has been collected and analyzed?

This.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdI7tgKLtA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oWWcqGk1m4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNIj83XNNeE

Axe
09-27-2021, 10:23 PM
99.99% survival rate. I’m not dying from Covid. I’ve had it already and it wasn’t bad. Thousands upon thousands of people with compromised health die from respiratory illnesses every year. This has been a thing long before Covid. Old and unhealthy people get sick, and they die sometimes. If the vaccine works then those at risk people should get it and they are fine. It’s completely unnecessary for a healthy individual to get the vaccine.

The only question I will come back with to you is….do you know what are all the potential side effects from MRNA vaccinations? Are there conclusive studies to refer to that have data from clinical trials taken over 3-5 years? If not then what are the chances you believe that no long term effects can arise? Is it 99.99%? If not then wouldn’t it be better to avoid the vaccination for now until more conclusive long term studies have been completed? Or if it’s so close to a push wouldn’t it be better to not rush into anything and wait and see until the proper amount of data has been collected and analyzed?
Sure you wouldn't die from covid. Instead, you'll die out of starvation and extreme poverty.

Axe
09-27-2021, 10:28 PM
Are you retarded? Be honest.
Oh yes he is.

TheGoatest
09-28-2021, 12:39 AM
Kyrie Irving is a hero

Kyrie's official soundtrack:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrPyn7HhkxA

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Sulico
09-28-2021, 07:27 AM
Why people argue with antivaxers?

As dr. House said, rational arguments don't usually work on antivaxers. Otherwise there would be no antivaxers.

Well, he said that about religious people, but it's still works.

NugzFan
09-28-2021, 12:02 PM
You don't find maintaining private medical records a personal right?

Referring to what? If someone knows if I’m vaccinated or not?


Here in Canada those without the vaccine are not allowed access to non-essential services. Another personal right. How long until this dictatorship decides your bank account is frozen because you haven't take the experimental vaccine.

Sounds like not vaccinating is infringing on your personal rights. Either way though I hope the US adopts similar laws everywhere.




Explain how not taking the vaccine is selfish?

Because it puts extra stress on our medical system and people end up dying from non covid related causes since they can’t get proper help.

Unvaccinated people need to stay out of the hospitals. Don’t take the vaccine, fine. But then don’t you dare ask for help when you need it from the same people you doubted in the first place.

NugzFan
09-28-2021, 12:04 PM
99.99% survival rate. I’m not dying from Covid. I’ve had it already and it wasn’t bad. Thousands upon thousands of people with compromised health die from respiratory illnesses every year. This has been a thing long before Covid. Old and unhealthy people get sick, and they die sometimes. If the vaccine works then those at risk people should get it and they are fine. It’s completely unnecessary for a healthy individual to get the vaccine.

The only question I will come back with to you is….do you know what are all the potential side effects from MRNA vaccinations? Are there conclusive studies to refer to that have data from clinical trials taken over 3-5 years? If not then what are the chances you believe that no long term effects can arise? Is it 99.99%? If not then wouldn’t it be better to avoid the vaccination for now until more conclusive long term studies have been completed? Or if it’s so close to a push wouldn’t it be better to not rush into anything and wait and see until the proper amount of data has been collected and analyzed?

People with the vaccine get less sick and die far less often than those without.

Do you drive without a seat belt since 99.99% of the time you won’t get hurt?

Plus if you’re vaccinated you are less likely to pass it to someone who could get hurt by it. the vaccine has worked. It has saved lives.

NugzFan
09-28-2021, 12:06 PM
And you openly celebrate the deaths of those people who are unvaccinated or who seek out alternative treatments measures. Stay classy buddy :pimp:

Oh comeon. If there is one group of people who deserve no sympathy when it comes to others suffering, it’s the anti vax group. The group who’s entire ideology revolves around not doing what’s best for the community.

DoctorP
09-28-2021, 12:09 PM
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CountDracula
04-24-2022, 03:46 AM
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-Isiah “Bad Boy” Thomas

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04-28-2022, 07:09 AM
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