Top 50 All-Time List - Shot Clock Era = #15

[dankok8]

List

#1 - Michael Jordan
#2 - Lebron James
#3 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
#4 - Bill Russell
#5 - Wilt Chamberlain
#6 - Magic Johnson
#7 - Shaquille O'Neal
#8 - Tim Duncan
#9 - Larry Bird
#10 - Hakeem Olajuwon
#11 - Kobe Bryant
#12 - Stephen Curry
#13 - Oscar Robertson
#14 - Jerry West
#15 - NOW VOTING

Top 25 Player Pool

https://i.postimg.cc/Vsq1HTDz/Top-25-Candidates.jpg

For a full player pool and vote breakdowns see the link (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ARaI3VCNauULLYL1Yu24HIRY768FYQdip56sp6uRFGk/edit?usp=sharing).

Everyone may post in this thread but only votes from serious contributors will be considered. Not everyone has to write an essay but there should be some justification or explanation and some coherent arguments being presented. I encourage people to be open-minded and willing to adjust their rankings in response to strong evidence. Debate and discussion is encouraged.

Opening Vote Tally

Kevin Durant - 5 (Manny98, 8Ball, 1987_Lakers, nayte, Phoenix)
Moses Malone - 3 (Lebron23, jlip, Overdrive)
Kawhi Leonard - 2 (kawhileonard2, HBK_Kliq_2)
Karl Malone - 1 (Magic is Magic)
Julius Erving - 1 (jalbert009)
Dirk Nowitzki - 1 (Gonzaldo)

[MadDog]

Durant. He's accomplished as everyone in the tally, but also the best scorer of the group. Arguably the most impactful too.

[SouBeachTalents]

Dr. J

[ELITEpower23]

Give me the big German Dirk!

[dankok8]

I'm still undecided for this spot. It's between KD, Garnett and Moses for me.

[RRR3]

How is KG not getting votes yet lol? Same question for David Robinson. I’m torn between those too.

[Phoenix]

How is KG not getting votes yet lol? Same question for David Robinson. I’m torn between those too.

High regular season peak, lower playoff peak, short prime window, and didn't win until Duncan took over as the main option. I would assume that's going to count against him in the rankings. That said, Admiral was much better than KG to me, much more dominant offensive player peak for peak and a better rim protector.

[TheCorporation]

I'm still undecided for this spot. It's between KD, Garnett and Moses for me.

It's Moses Malone for me

3x MVP, Great longevity, FMVP, 12x Allstar

He has it all.

[dankok8]

KG should be getting a lot more love. He was only marginally worse than Duncan in the playoffs. MARGINALLY...

[Ryoka Narusawa]

Moses M

[Thenameless]

Moses Malone

[HBK_Kliq_2]

How is KG not getting votes yet lol? Same question for David Robinson. I’m torn between those too.

That's the one great thing about this list actually. Keeping those beta's who aren't capable of being a #1 scoring option off the list.

[dankok8]

Current Vote Tally

Kevin Durant - 6 (Manny98, 8Ball, 1987_Lakers, nayte, Phoenix, MadDog)
Moses Malone - 5 (Lebron23, jlip, Overdrive, Ryoka Narusawa, Thenameless)
Julius Erving - 2 (jalbert009, SouBeachTalents)
Dirk Nowitzki - 2 (Gonzaldo, ELITEpower23)
Kawhi Leonard - 2 (kawhileonard2, HBK_Kliq_2)
Karl Malone - 1 (Magic is Magic)

[Kobe_Bryant]

i vote for moses just to separate curry and durant further like how i am separated from lebron for the same type of biased agenda idiocy that this forum represents

[Phoenix]

i vote for moses just to separate curry and durant further like how i am separated from lebron for the same type of biased agenda idiocy that this forum represents

35 post a day. Slow down kiddo.

[Kobe_Bryant]

35 post a day. Slow down kiddo.

aren't you the retard that used to like that kenneth griffin fellow until he pretended he was a lebron fan one time and you got angry with him cause the joke flew right over your head and when he made fun of you it made you spite him ever since and then the other day when i told you i won multiple titles without a top 75 all time teammate you said "wtf ever heard of shaq" since you don't know that the word multiple means 2 or more and i won 2 with pau gasol.

it sounds like you're super upset with me and this ken fellow. breathe before you pass out my son. your brain will work better with oxygen

[Sulico]

Oscar Robertson is #13, John Havlicek is getting 0 votes at #15.

Both played at the same time, one got 1 chip, the other one 8 chips.

This league is not about winning, it's about getting big stats, and we all know it.

[Cold soul]

Jerry West and Oscar Robertson are underrated they both get really overlooked.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Jerry West and Oscar Robertson are underrated they both get really overlooked.

i patterned my game after them, baylor and mike

i turned out pretty good


imagine the poor souls patterning their games around curry's 40 footer fast breaks with a 10 point lead

[SouBeachTalents]

Oscar Robertson is #13, John Havlicek is getting 0 votes at #15.

Both played at the same time, one got 1 chip, the other one 8 chips.

This league is not about winning, it's about getting big stats, and we all know it.
It's almost like supporting casts play a big role in winning championships

[1987_Lakers]

i patterned my game after them, baylor and mike

i turned out pretty good


imagine the poor souls patterning their games around curry's 40 footer fast breaks with a 10 point lead

Makes sense, Baylor would go Kobe level in terms of efficiency in the playoffs and people usually rank his teammate (West) higher on the all-time list. Just like Shaq is ranked ahead of Kobe.

[SouBeachTalents]

Makes sense, Baylor would go Kobe level in terms of efficiency in the playoffs and people usually rank his teammate (West) higher on the all-time list. Just like Shaq is ranked ahead of Kobe.
In fairness though Baylor averaged more ppg in the Finals than Kobe ever scored in a single Finals game

[Phoenix]

aren't you the retard that used to like that kenneth griffin fellow until he pretended he was a lebron fan one time and you got angry with him cause the joke flew right over your head and when he made fun of you it made you spite him ever since and then the other day when i told you i won multiple titles without a top 75 all time teammate you said "wtf ever heard of shaq" since you don't know that the word multiple means 2 or more and i won 2 with pau gasol.

it sounds like you're super upset with me and this ken fellow. breathe before you pass out my son. your brain will work better with oxygen

35 though. I'm in your head loser. :oldlol:

[Kobe_Bryant]

35 though. I'm in your head loser. :oldlol:

maybe you should get back in your own head. you're the one that can't count to 2

[1987_Lakers]

Kenny slowly breaking character.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Makes sense, Baylor would go Kobe level in terms of efficiency in the playoffs and people usually rank his teammate (West) higher on the all-time list. Just like Shaq is ranked ahead of Kobe.

literally nobody says this. even shaq


i think kenny smith has shaq ahead of me. thats about it



https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/the-top-nba-players-of-all-time


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https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d66126289cb0db5f6471d9e4dce29514


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[Phoenix]

:rant



https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-16-2016/bpKjuT.gif

Tread softly. You're on thin ice.

[Kobe_Bryant]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-16-2016/bpKjuT.gif

Tread softly. You're on thin ice.

whats multiple mean

[Phoenix]

Kenny slowly breaking character.

Got em.:lol

That little breakdown above was pure gold.

[1987_Lakers]

Got em.:lol

That little breakdown above was pure gold.

:lol

[Phoenix]

whats multiple mean

You mean like multiple accounts? Personalities? You tell me.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Got em.:lol

That little breakdown above was pure gold.

even if i was this ken fellow ( and i'm not ) ... i'm sure not trying very hard to disassociate myself from the man

https://i.ibb.co/tH7sQ2Z/Screen-Shot-2021-09-28-at-2-53-11-AM.png

[Phoenix]

Post 27 at 3:49. #28 at 3:49 :roll:

https://c.tenor.com/U02D0xGuKgMAAAAC/f5-refresh.gif

[Kobe_Bryant]

Post 27 at 3:49. #28 at 3:49 :roll:

https://c.tenor.com/U02D0xGuKgMAAAAC/f5-refresh.gif

i use this to refresh. i'm not into the whole nerdy keyboard stuff

https://i.ibb.co/8BFXNYB/Screen-Shot-2021-09-28-at-2-55-12-AM.png


and i dunno what else i'm supposed to do at 3am. especially when i'm dead

[Phoenix]

https://c.tenor.com/U02D0xGuKgMAAAAC/f5-refresh.gif
https://c.tenor.com/U02D0xGuKgMAAAAC/f5-refresh.gif
https://c.tenor.com/U02D0xGuKgMAAAAC/f5-refresh.gif



35.

[Kobe_Bryant]

35.

36


now you're counting alright

[Cold soul]

Makes sense, Baylor would go Kobe level in terms of efficiency in the playoffs and people usually rank his teammate (West) higher on the all-time list. Just like Shaq is ranked ahead of Kobe.

Kobe is ranked above Shaq though even Shaq would say so if you asked him.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kobe is ranked above Shaq though even Shaq would say so if you asked him.

remember our sit down interview when that fat **** admitted he tore his house apart after i won #5


https://c.tenor.com/1L3hJiloIqcAAAAd/kobe-bryant-laugh.gif

[Phoenix]

36


now you're counting alright

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmSnmck_I39BSLQg-O0kQq3Ath6c3z8XG1Vg&usqp=CAU

[TheCorporation]

Moses Malone

And when are you stopping? 25? 30?

[TheCorporation]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmSnmck_I39BSLQg-O0kQq3Ath6c3z8XG1Vg&usqp=CAU

:lol

[TheGoatest]

https://i.ibb.co/rMFmMvd/Screen-Shot-2021-09-25-at-2-22-05-AM.png


That Slam Dunk Champion title is especially impressive. Rivals Curry's Nickelodeon award. Although Curry's award is generally considered more legit, whereas many people feel that both Chris Carr and Darvin Ham were better in the 1997 slam dunk contest.

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2016617/rs_634x858-160717143134-634.Stephen-Curry-Kids-choice-sports-awards.tt.071716.jpg


Oscar Robertson is #13, John Havlicek is getting 0 votes at #15.

Both played at the same time, one got 1 chip, the other one 8 chips.

This league is not about winning, it's about getting big stats, and we all know it.

Weird how Havlicek isn't ranked significantly higher by this forum's standards considering he is 8/8 in the finals.

[Kobe_Bryant]

That Slam Dunk Champion title is especially impressive. Rivals Curry's Nickelodeon award. Although Curry's award is generally considered more legit, whereas many people feel that both Chris Carr and Darvin Ham were better in the 1997 slam dunk contest.

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2016617/rs_634x858-160717143134-634.Stephen-Curry-Kids-choice-sports-awards.tt.071716.jpg



Weird how Havlicek isn't ranked significantly higher by this forum's standards considering he is 8/8 in the finals.

woops. i guess jordan is no longer the goat. he won a dunk contest


only true goats like lebron are scared away from even competing because they don't wanna risk hurting their brand

[TheGoatest]

woops. i guess jordan is no longer the goat. he won a dunk contest


only true goats like lebron are scared away from even competing because they don't wanna risk hurting their brand

:roll:

LeBron was doing the weak-ass dunk that won the 1997 dunk contest for Kobe in-game while he was in high school:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNfea7qAz8

Not to mention that Isaiah Rider already won a dunk contest doing the same dunk 3 years earlier in 1994, so it's not like he deserves points for inventing something either:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JuK4aPADvM

Just look at this list of some NBA legends who have "Slam Dunk Champion" on their resumé:

Harold Miner
Fred Jones
Jeremy Evans
Glenn Robinson III

Nobody has forgotten about them, most definitely. :roll:

[Kobe_Bryant]

:roll:

LeBron was doing the weak-ass dunk that won the 1997 dunk contest for Kobe in-game while he was in high school:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MNfea7qAz8

Not to mention that Isaiah Rider already won a dunk contest doing the same dunk 3 years earlier in 1994, so it's not like he deserves points for inventing something either:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JuK4aPADvM

Just look at this list of some NBA legends who have "Slam Dunk Champion" on their resumé:

Harold Miner
Fred Jones
Jeremy Evans
Glenn Robinson III

Nobody has forgotten about them, most definitely. :roll:

its easy to pull off great dunks when theres no judges. we all know lebron isn't the best when the whole stadium has their eyes on him judging like when he steps to the free throw line

and lets face it. lebron was a power dunker that did basically the same dunk 99% of the time. he can't just keep doing a kobe/rider between the legs. he needs more stylish stuff and he doesn't have it in his repertoire


has lebron ever even done a 360



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322MbvDVhQk&ab_channel=Theincrediblantastic



well that was awkward... looked like me from 10 years ago

[Round Mound]

Moses

[Kobe_Bryant]

Moses


"this ^

and next round we're voting Dr J


durant has no place in the top 20. hes 21st as far as i'm concerned


Curry der Bess

So er Lebwon"

https://piercehoward.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/down-computer.jpg

- ISH



.....

[TheGoatest]

Did you just say that it's harder to do a dunk in a contest than in-game, but then proceed to use hitting free-throws in-game as an example of something that is hard? No flip-flopping here, folks.
By the way LeBron is 8-8 and 8-10 from the line in his two finals game 7s (2013 and 2016). Kobe was 11-15 from the line in game 7 of the 2010 finals.

You judging players based on their dunking ability just shows how behind you are. I haven't paid attention to an NBA dunk contest, since I saw this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z840KrgBrPc

That vid is like 15 years old and is yet to be duplicated in an NBA contest, let alone surpassed.

Some of those streetball dudes would mop the floor with any NBA player in a dunk contest, especially Kobe, who as mentioned wasn't even as good as Darvin Ham or Chris Carr in the 1997 dunk contest, let alone as good as Vince Carter or Jason Richardson later on. But those same streetball players would suck ass in an actual game against pro players.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Did you just say that it's harder to do a dunk in a contest than in-game, but then proceed to use hitting free-throws in-game as an example of something that is hard? No flip-flopping here, folks.
By the way LeBron is 8-8 and 8-10 from the line in his two finals game 7s (2013 and 2016). Kobe was 11-15 from the line in game 7 of the 2010 finals.

You judging players based on their dunking ability just shows how behind you are. I haven't paid attention to an NBA dunk contest, since I saw this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z840KrgBrPc

That vid is like 15 years old and is yet to be duplicated in an NBA contest, let alone surpassed.

Some of those streetball dudes would mop the floor with any NBA player in a dunk contest, especially Kobe, who as mentioned wasn't even as good as Darvin Ham or Chris Carr in the 1997 dunk contest, let alone as good as Vince Carter or Jason Richardson later on. But those same streetball players would suck ass in an actual game against pro players.



lebron air balled 20+ free throws. kobe never did that shit one god damn time


lebron got shook and passed on 2000+ clutch shots. kobe probly did that under 20 times in his life


and lebrons reps literally confirmed the reason that its not worth risking hurting his brand

http://landonbuford.com/2021/02/10/lakers-lebron-james-associate-reveals-real-reason-he-skipped-dunk-contest/

https://i.ibb.co/wpZqVcm/Screen-Shot-2021-09-28-at-5-07-23-AM.png


you're literally arguing against lebron himself you f*ckin goof

https://c.tenor.com/1L3hJiloIqcAAAAd/kobe-bryant-laugh.gif

[TheGoatest]

LeBron has had more playoff game-winning buzzer beaters in the 2018 playoffs than Kobe had in his entire 20 year-old career.

LeBron is the GOAT and his GOAT status is argued with the likes of Kareem and Jordan. Kobe is 10-12 range and his spot is argued with the likes of Moses Malone and Julius Erving.

[Kobe_Bryant]

LeBron has had more playoff game-winning buzzer beaters in the 2018 playoffs than Kobe had in his entire 20 year-old career.

LeBron is the GOAT and his GOAT status is argued with the likes of Kareem and Jordan. Kobe is 10-12 range and his spot is argued with the likes of Moses Malone and Julius Erving.

congrats on the playoff buzzer beaters vs Toronto and Washington.

hey did you know I eliminated 24 teams with 50+ wins in 7 finals runs and your idol only eliminated 14 in 10 finals runs

hey did you know lebron has more finals losses than I have nba titles and I have a lot of nba titles btw. 5 of them. more than your idol


hey did you know I'm the only guy in history with multiple titles without a top 75 all time teammate

hey did you know that all my titles came without

- lockouts
- suspensions
- bubbles
- collusions
- team hopping
- 5 month breaks before the playoffs
- 3s to tie or win in an elimination game


hey did you know that all 4 of lebrons fake titles came with these asterisks

hey did you know lebron was linked to a Miami steroid clinic with jameer Nelson in 2013


hey did you know that more players have me ahead of lebron



https://youtu.be/SCk7pm8zV4k

[TheGoatest]

congrats on the playoff buzzer beaters vs Toronto and Washington.

hey did you know I eliminated 24 teams with 50+ wins in 7 finals runs and your idol only eliminated 14 in 10 finals runs

hey did you know lebron has more finals losses than I have nba titles and I have a lot of nba titles btw. 5 of them. more than your idol


hey did you know I'm the only guy in history with multiple titles without a top 75 all time teammate

hey did you know that all my titles came without

- lockouts
- suspensions
- bubbles
- collusions
- team hopping
- 5 month breaks before the playoffs
- 3s to tie or win in an elimination game


hey did you know that all 4 of lebrons fake titles came with these asterisks

hey did you know lebron was linked to a Miami steroid clinic with jameer Nelson in 2013


hey did you know that more players have me ahead of lebron



https://youtu.be/SCk7pm8zV4k

Congratulations on a Shaq-Phil Jackson carried career.

LeBron eliminated a 73 win team.
Kobe never eliminated a 63 win team.

LeBron won 3 titles against the greatest finals competition ever, and 1 title under the most difficult and fairest circumstances ever. Kobe was carried by Shaq and Phil Jackson and all of his titles aren't impressive.

Kobe shot under 50% in 32 of his 37 finals games. Probably the worst finals performer of any player in the top 20.

Kobe is mostly known for his scoring, yet he never shot 47% over a season. Even Russell Westbrook did that.

Kobe demanded a trade in 2007 and only stayed after the league fixed him one of the most one-sided trades in history.

Kobe was not merely linked to doping. He openly engaged in blood-doping in his trips to Germany in 2013. And the league did nothing about it.

[8Ball]

A lot of the players we voted for like curry, durant, and soon giannis will crack the top 10 and push Kobe to 14th or 15th.

Durant has this one. Should be votes here. And moses next.

[8Ball]

lebron air balled 20+ free throws. kobe never did that shit one god damn time


lebron got shook and passed on 2000+ clutch shots. kobe probly did that under 20 times in his life


and lebrons reps literally confirmed the reason that its not worth risking hurting his brand

http://landonbuford.com/2021/02/10/lakers-lebron-james-associate-reveals-real-reason-he-skipped-dunk-contest/

https://i.ibb.co/wpZqVcm/Screen-Shot-2021-09-28-at-5-07-23-AM.png


you're literally arguing against lebron himself you f*ckin goof

https://c.tenor.com/1L3hJiloIqcAAAAd/kobe-bryant-laugh.gif

Kenny its over.

Every list has LeBron 1 or 2 all time.

Every list has kobe 10 or 12th.

Its over. All that work and kobe didnt move up the rankings.

[RRR3]

Kenny is completely insane. LeBron literally drove him crazy.

[L.Kizzle]

Doc J.

[dankok8]

I'm still having a tough time deciding between Moses, KG and Durant. I generally always give the benefit of the doubt to older players in these rankings. Durant will eventually climb higher but all things being equal I won't vote for him here. In other words, when it's close I opt for legends over current players. Thus it's between KG and Moses for me. I don't know if what I'm about to say necessarily makes sense to most people but here we go. I think KG at his peak is a slightly better player than Moses on most teams because of defense but I feel like Moses is the kind of player that can impose himself on a game more than KG can. Moses' ability to destroy the offensive glass and get the entire opposing frontline in foul trouble is kind of the joker here. As much as I love KG I think if I had a do or die game that I had to win I would take 1982/1983 Moses over 2003/2004 Garnett. Not by any kind of big margin but still... for that reason; I vote for the Chairman of the Boards by a hair.

[Phoenix]

Seems like most of the votes have been for Moses, so I'm sure he's moved sufficiently ahead of KD to move on to #16 soon?

[Kobe_Bryant]

Kenny its over.

Every list has LeBron 1 or 2 all time.

Every list has kobe 10 or 12th.

Its over. All that work and kobe didnt move up the rankings.

the only lists that have lebron 1st or 2nd and me out of the top 10 are done by extremely small 15 to 20 person online message board groups or very small 15 to 20 person sports writer teams. all of which are basically a fan club and obviously being represented more due to bias by mods and employers and the fact that lebron is current. most of my fans have lives by now and talking hoops after I'm retired/dead and gone is reserved for someone that isn't married with kids and isn't working full time and still likes to talk about me when I haven't been any good since 2013. it's a very rare thing. back when I was playing people online voted me ahead of lebron. in fact there's a poll on ish from years ago that ended with me ahead and it gets bumped from time to time. it truly is just a fan support result when it comes to places like this.

it is of no relevance and you know it. ive posted many many current sources that all have me either top 5, top 3, top 2 and in a few cases arguable goat. it's really not even a debate.

nobody except Kenny Smith has ever said hakeem is above me or even close.


a biased opinion can do wonders can't it.


you lose every debate. sorry kid

[dankok8]

Seems like most of the votes have been for Moses, so I'm sure he's moved sufficiently ahead of KD to move on to #16 soon?

It's only 8-6 for Moses right now actually.

[Phoenix]

It's only 8-6 for Moses right now actually.

Oh, I didn't bother to do a count. Just seemed like everyone was more or less voting for Moses so it seemed like he had developed a decent lead by now.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Dr J has to be ahead of Durant as well. keep em coming boys. we got this


Durant fans shook

[Phoenix]

Dr J has to be ahead of Durant as well. keep em coming boys. we got this


Durant fans shook

What about Kobe fans who can't handle that he wasn't voted top 10, and in some cases acting like his re-incarnated spirit as a coping mechanism?

[SouBeachTalents]

What about Kobe fans who can't handle that he wasn't voted top 10, and in some cases acting like his re-incarnated spirit as a coping mechanism?
But only 15 people think that, it doesn’t even matter. It’s not like someone would spend the last 10 selections melting down about it, create an account pretending to be a dead guys spirit, then post 50 times a day on it.

[Phoenix]

But only 15 people think that, it doesn’t even matter. It’s not like someone would spend the last 10 selections melting down about it, create an account pretending to be a dead guys spirit, then post 50 times a day on it.

And even after that dead guy has already been voted in 4 positions ago but still incessantly bitching about it. Nope, nobody around here could possibly be that big a loser.

[MadDog]

What about Kobe fans who can't handle that he wasn't voted top 10, and in some cases acting like his re-incarnated spirit as a coping mechanism?

To be fair, its just one Kobe fan. But one who clearly lacks self awareness. How do you call anyone "shook" after creating multiple accounts PLEADING that Kobe is top 5. :confusedshrug: This latest account is pure nightmare fuel.

[Phoenix]

To be fair, its just one Kobe fan. But one who clearly lacks self awareness. How do you call anyone "shook" after creating multiple accounts PLEADING that Kobe is top 5. :confusedshrug: This latest account is pure nightmare fuel.

Just one but at 40 posts a day, has the effect of multiple ones and more or less just being disruptive to the process at this point. Which is weird, because this nutcase was and is only concerned with where Kobe landed and as said, he's already been voted in.

[MadDog]

Not surprised that Moses is looked at as a top 15 player - but here, I didn't expect him to catch Durant. I believe KD is clearly the better scorer and had years as impactful on defense. Yes his move to Golden State was weak (this is everyones caveat lol), but Moses also joined a stacked Sixers team in 83. Without Malone, Philadelphia already made multiple finals in 80 & 82. Durant has the same number of all-nba teams, better impact stats (regular-season/playoffs) and more finals mvps.

Malone's advantage lies with regular-season MVPs, I think. Actually forgot he won three of them.

[MadDog]

Just one but at 40 posts a day, has the effect of multiple ones and more or less just being disruptive to the process at this point. Which is weird, because this nutcase was and is only concerned with where Kobe landed and as said, he's already been voted in.

Good point lol. Its clear he resents Kobe's rank, and now wants to mudsling. Any young fan that's reading this forum......don't ever live vicariously through these guys. Its just basketball. :confusedshrug: It should be fun to both play and talk about it.

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Dr J has to be ahead of Durant as well. keep em coming boys. we got this


Durant fans shook


https://youtu.be/_yXhn_8xJto


User Kobe Bryant: "look at all the times we have voted together. Look at Kobe man"


Me: "Kobe's dead. I'm not thinking about Kobe. I'm not thinking about you. I'm thinking about kawhi leonard"

[dankok8]

Let's get a few more votes in!

[Thenameless]

Not surprised that Moses is looked at as a top 15 player - but here, I didn't expect him to catch Durant. I believe KD is clearly the better scorer and had years as impactful on defense. Yes his move to Golden State was weak (this is everyones caveat lol), but Moses also joined a stacked Sixers team in 83. Without Malone, Philadelphia already made multiple finals in 80 & 82. Durant has the same number of all-nba teams, better impact stats (regular-season/playoffs) and more finals mvps.

Malone's advantage lies with regular-season MVPs, I think. Actually forgot he won three of them.

A big difference is Malone is more dominant on the inside, while Durant is more of a balanced threat. Durant is great for the modern game. But we need to remember that a lot of Malone's career was played before the 3 point line. What I'm saying is, he was scarier or more dominant for his era than Durant is for his era.

[dankok8]

BUMP

Let's get a few more votes in so we can start the next thread.

[Phoenix]

This thread has been running for 2 days now. There has to be some kind of consistency to when a vote is called. If Moses is leading after all this time IMO he should be written in at #15 and we move on.

[dankok8]

This thread has been running for 2 days now. There has to be some kind of consistency to when a vote is called. If Moses is leading after all this time IMO he should be written in at #15 and we move on.

It's just 8-6 for Moses now. I will give it a few more hours and then call it if no one else votes.

[Phoenix]

It's just 8-6 for Moses now. I will give it a few more hours and then call it if no one else votes.:cheers:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The Snake

[dankok8]

Damn after the latest vote it's 8-7. Any thoughts on what we should do? I think whoever wins should be at least by a two-vote margin. That's how we've done it before...

[SouBeachTalents]

Since the guy I voted for is not gonna win, my next choice would've been Moses, so if you want to count that it would give him a 2 vote margin.

If you don't, I'd leave it up for one more day then just call it.

[dankok8]

Since the guy I voted for is not gonna win, my next choice would've been Moses, so if you want to count that it would give him a 2 vote margin.

If you don't, I'd leave it up for one more day then just call it.

I'll count your vote. Since we have a lot of candidates we do have to narrow the field. People are encourage to change their vote if their candidate has no chance to win so that we can call the threads sooner.

So it's 9-7 now. But there's no harm to leave it overnight and make a new thread tomorrow.

[outofstomach]

What about Kobe fans who can't handle that he wasn't voted top 10, and in some cases acting like his re-incarnated spirit as a coping mechanism?
:lol

[SaintzFury13]

Moses Malone

[Phoenix]

Ok I think we can wrap this one up IMHO. Anyone who wants to vote on this has had more than enough time to do so.

[Chick Stern]

I love the Dr, but my vote is Durant

[dankok8]

Final Vote Tally

Moses Malone - 10 (Lebron23, jlip, Overdrive, Ryoka Narusawa, Thenameless, TheCorporation, Round Mound, dankok8, SouBeachTalents, SaintzFury13)
Kevin Durant - 8 (Manny98, 8Ball, 1987_Lakers, nayte, Phoenix, MadDog, kuniva_dAMiGhTy, Chick Stern)
Julius Erving - 2 (jalbert009, L. Kizzle)
Dirk Nowitzki - 2 (Gonzaldo, ELITEpower23)
Kawhi Leonard - 2 (kawhileonard2, HBK_Kliq_2)
Karl Malone - 1 (Magic is Magic)

Moses wins. Thread #16 is now open.