How have we allowed people to lose their jobs over NOT taking the vaccine??

[Patrick Chewing]

United Airlines about to let go of 600 employees.

150 employees of a hospital about to get fired.

If you're a Federal employee, you're about to be fired if you don't get vaccinated.



I know most of you kids on here hate America and wish you were living in Soviet Russia right now, but pretend you actually gave a shit about America for once, and ask yourselves, is this right? I'm sure we all have friends and family members who may be affected by this tyrannical rule of getting fired unless you get the vaccine.


And what's even worse is that most of you hate Big Government. But you're taking Big Government's side here and you're probably confused as to why you are siding with them. On one hand, "f*ck the government" you probably tell yourselves every day, but on the other hand, people are suffering at the hands of big government, and you're somehow siding with them. So which is it? Side with Big Government and Big Pharma and let them control our lives? Or side with everyone else and tell Big Government to f*ck off cause they don't control our bodies?? I'm sure you kids are for abortions being legal, and you strongly oppose Big Government "telling women what to do with their bodies" as you're always clamoring about, so why aren't you opposing Big Government here when they are telling people what to do with their bodies by injecting themselves with a vaccine? Why the double standard? Why the inconsistency?

Be an American for once and rise up against this tyranny.

[DoctorP]

says the vaxxed gorilla

[Bronbron23]

United Airlines about to let go of 600 employees.

150 employees of a hospital about to get fired.

If you're a Federal employee, you're about to be fired if you don't get vaccinated.



I know most of you kids on here hate America and wish you were living in Soviet Russia right now, but pretend you actually gave a shit about America for once, and ask yourselves, is this right? I'm sure we all have friends and family members who may be affected by this tyrannical rule of getting fired unless you get the vaccine.


And what's even worse is that most of you hate Big Government. But you're taking Big Government's side here and you're probably confused as to why you are siding with them. On one hand, "f*ck the government" you probably tell yourselves every day, but on the other hand, people are suffering at the hands of big government, and you're somehow siding with them. So which is it? Side with Big Government and Big Pharma and let them control our lives? Or side with everyone else and tell Big Government to f*ck off cause they don't control our bodies?? I'm sure you kids are for abortions being legal, and you strongly oppose Big Government "telling women what to do with their bodies" as you're always clamoring about, so why aren't you opposing Big Government here when they are telling people what to do with their bodies by injecting themselves with a vaccine? Why the double standard? Why the inconsistency?

Be an American for once and rise up against this tyranny.

It's crazy especially for the health care system who may be getting rid of thousands this week. They're already understaffed and overwhelmed with patients. People are so dumb. They criticize the unvaccinated for overwhelming the system but won't say anything about the government doing the same. Sheep are always gonna be sheep.

[DoctorP]

it's a choice, you ridiculous dimwitted goon. you can also choose to not wear decent clothes and not bathe and guess what? you'll probably get canned.

you really are a low IQ dimwit. that's why your'e a homophobic fascist. because you have stupid thoughts.

[Bronbron23]

it's a choice, you ridiculous dimwitted goon. you can also choose to not wear decent clothes and not bathe and guess what? you'll probably get canned.

you really are a low IQ dimwit. that's why your'e a homophobic fascist. because you have stupid thoughts.

Didn't know clothes and only bathing once in awhile could give you a serious medical condition. Great comparison.

[DoctorP]

Didn't know clothes and only bathing once in awhile could give you a serious medical condition. Great comparison.

appearances are big time in certain industries. maybe not mcdonalds like you're used to but it is.

[Patrick Chewing]

Didn't know clothes and only bathing once in awhile could give you a serious medical condition. Great comparison.

Put this imbecile on ignore. We all have. He's a troll just seeking attention. Guy has been posting for 24 hours straight.

[DoctorP]

Put this imbecile on ignore. We all have. He's a troll just seeking attention. Guy has been posting for 24 hours straight.


yes, listen to your master gorilla

[Bronbron23]

Put this imbecile on ignore. We all have. He's a troll just seeking attention. Guy has been posting for 24 hours straight.

Not about seeking attention dude it's about talking truth to misinformation. The more time goes by the more we're seeing alot of what "antivaxers" are saying is actually true. Like if you have had covid and have antibodies you your as protected as a vaccinated person. Like how the vaccine dosn't stop or reduce the spread it just reduces the individuals symptoms or death. I'm only talking the truth man. Not my fault you can't take it.

[Bronbron23]

appearances are big time in certain industries. maybe not mcdonalds like you're used to but it is.

For sure it's not a good comparison is all. A dress code that has 0% chance at harming me isn't the same as a vaccine that has a small chance at harming me.

[Patrick Chewing]

Not about seeking attention dude it's about talking truth to misinformation. The more time goes by the more we're seeing alot of what "antivaxers" are saying is actually true. Like if you have had covid and have antibodies you your as protected as a vaccinated person. Like how the vaccine dosn't stop or reduce the spread it just reduces the individuals symptoms or death. I'm only talking the truth man. Not my fault you can't take it.

LOL bruh I'm talking about DoctorPee stain, not you. :oldlol:


You're a good poster. Keep up the good work!

[Patrick Chewing]

If you didn't know any better, you'd think these people are intentionally try to destroy the U.S. from within



Without a doubt that is the endgame for these people. Create a new country from the chaos and disorder, and with this new country, create new laws and a new Constitution.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Put this imbecile on ignore. We all have. He's a troll just seeking attention. Guy has been posting for 24 hours straight.

Poopsie = 30,000+ posts

[DoctorP]

Put this imbecile on ignore. We all have. He's a troll just seeking attention. Guy has been posting for 24 hours straight.

he's right. I shouldn't be supporting this site and it's right-wing backwards ideals.

Good job Chewing.

I'm done here.

[Bronbron23]

LOL bruh I'm talking about DoctorPee stain, not you. :oldlol:


You're a good poster. Keep up the good work!

Lol my bad brotha. Doctorpee stain:oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

Lol my bad brotha. Doctorpee stain:oldlol:

:oldlol:

[tontoz]

Educators sued to avoid the NY mandate and lost:



Panel of Judges Upholds New York City's Vaccine Mandate for Educators

While more than 90% of teachers are already vaccinated, the mandate was expected to cause staffing shortages in a handful of schools.


https://www.usnews.com/news/education-news/articles/2021-09-27/panel-of-judges-upholds-new-york-citys-vaccine-mandate-for-educators


There are a few nurses suing to avoid the mandate because of their religious beliefs. TBD

[Lakers Legend#32]

There are a few nurses suing to avoid the mandate because of their religious beliefs. TBD

Religious beliefs? BWAWAWAHAHAHAHA!

[bladefd]

You can choose to not get vaccinated. Just find a job in a private company that does not require vaccination.

There are too many babies sitting around crying nonstop about everything. I have been vaccinated since April - no issues at all. Had a sore arm for 4 days. I just sucked it up, dealt with it and moved on with my life like an adult. The vaccine has long since left my body. Quit putting on temper tantrums about everything and live your lives.

Conservatives are like this girl I used to know back in high school years ago - complaining nonstop about every little thing. I got sick of her nonsense. Even on Facebook, she would constantly complain about everything. It makes everyone around you feel like crap when someone is always raging and yelling about everything. Grow up.

[Patrick Chewing]

You can choose to not get vaccinated. Just find a job in a private company that does not require vaccination.

There are too many babies sitting around crying nonstop about everything. I have been vaccinated since April - no issues at all. Had a sore arm for 4 days. I just sucked it up, dealt with it and moved on with my life like an adult. The vaccine has long since left my body. Quit putting on temper tantrums about everything and live your lives.

You completely miss the point as usual. It's not about the ****ing vaccine. Get that through your head. It's about losing your goddamn job because the only other way to keep it is to get the vaccine. It's overreach. It's tyranny.

[bladefd]

You completely miss the point as usual. It's not about the ****ing vaccine. Get that through your head. It's about losing your goddamn job because the only other way to keep it is to get the vaccine. It's overreach. It's tyranny.

It's up to the company to make their rules. Make your own company if you want to make the rules and run things your way.

[tontoz]

You completely miss the point as usual. It's not about the ****ing vaccine. Get that through your head. It's about losing your goddamn job because the only other way to keep it is to get the vaccine. It's overreach. It's tyranny.

This "tyranny" has legal precedent.

Maybe you should actually read Jacobson v Massachusetts. Or you could read the first paragraph of the US Consititution:



"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of




Does anyone see a pattern here?

[Patrick Chewing]

Someone who has antibodies built up to Covid is just as likely to not catch Covid again and spread it as someone who is vaccinated. So why should that person lose their job?

[Patrick Chewing]

It's up to the company to make their rules. Make your own company if you want to make the rules and run things your way.

And no mention of Federal employees?? How convenient. Can we make our own government then? How about we just secede instead?

[Patrick Chewing]

Who else am I missing?

Gotta catch em' all


RRR3 and highweight

[tontoz]

Someone who has antibodies built up to Covid is just as likely to not catch Covid again and spread it as someone who is vaccinated. So why should that person lose their job?

While that may be true there haven't been any lawsuits about that, at least none that i have seen. I did see a story about an employer giving a waiver to recovered covid patients but they had to get an antibody test. They are doing something similar in Germany apparently.

I don't think you can make a hard/fast rule about recovered covid patients because cases can be quite different. Antibody testing will probably be needed to check the antibody levels.

[bladefd]

And no mention of Federal employees?? How convenient. Can we make our own government then? How about we just secede instead?

You can run for president and put people into positions such as CDC where you can control this from the top.

[tontoz]

And no mention of Federal employees?? How convenient. Can we make our own government then? How about we just secede instead?


Jacobson v Massachusetts was in regards to states but can probably be applied to the federal govt as well.





Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), was a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court upheld the authority of states to enforce compulsory vaccination laws. The Court's decision articulated the view that individual liberty is not absolute and is subject to the police power of the state.

[Patrick Chewing]

You can run for president and put people into positions such as CDC where you can control this from the top.

You honestly don't believe it's overreach for the Federal Government to demand it's employees be vaccinated, or lose their job? Your answer to this is to just put in a different government come election time?

[j3lademaster]

You honestly don't believe it's overreach for the Federal Government to demand it's employees be vaccinated, or lose their job?No, because a job's not a right.

[Nanners]

If you didn't know any better, you'd think these people are intentionally try to destroy the U.S. from within

Thats exactly what they're doing... they call it the great reset for a reason

[Patrick Chewing]

No, because a job's not a right.

Oh here we go....:roll:

Not getting vaccinated is a right too.


You pro-Government bootlickers should provide other forms of employment for those you fire. Imagine a government that puts people on the street and takes food and housing away from children by firing their parents.

[tontoz]

Oh here we go....:roll:


You people are insane.



So the Supreme Court was insane too, right?

[j3lademaster]

Oh here we go....:roll:

Not getting vaccinated is a right too.


You pro-Government bootlickers should provide other forms of employment for those you fire. Imagine a government that puts people on the street and takes food and housing away from children by firing their parents.Not getting vaccinated is absolutely a right. I never said it wasn't. Whether you get vaccinated or not is your choice and your right, but a job isn't.

[Patrick Chewing]

Not getting vaccinated is absolutely a right. I never said it wasn't. Whether you get vaccinated or not is your choice and your right, but a job isn't.

So where do you draw the line on overreach and discrimination? If I fire someone because they're Black, that's discrimination. If I fire someone because they're not vaccinated, that's not discrimination?

[j3lademaster]

So where do you draw the line on overreach and discrimination? If I fire someone because they're Black, that's discrimination. If I fire someone because they're not vaccinated, that's not discrimination?You can't fire someone because they're black, but if someone shows up to a client meeting with a green mohawk and face-tatts then yeah you would probably fire them. Where do I draw that hard line exactly? IDK it's a tough question. I'd have to give it more thought.

But one can't change whether they're a certain race. If you decide to get tatts and piercings that make you a tough hire to most companies, that was your choice and your right to do that and it's their right to also not give you a job.

I think the root of your question is more about if one is for or against the vaccine. I think it's better to be vaccinated than not vaccinated, but it should be up to the person. So I don't see anything wrong with asking your employees to get a free vaccine. I mean just because it's a govt job doesn't mean it's a right. You expect your city planner to have a architectural engineering degree or something related to the field, don't you?

[hateraid]

it's a choice, you ridiculous dimwitted goon. you can also choose to not wear decent clothes and not bathe and guess what? you'll probably get canned.

you really are a low IQ dimwit. that's why your'e a homophobic fascist. because you have stupid thoughts.

Poor example. It should more equal to sexual orientation or color of skin. These are choices that don't affect the image of the company. When you limit to someone that is qualified to not have a job then there really isn't a choice.

[outofstomach]

Not getting vaccinated is absolutely a right. I never said it wasn't. Whether you get vaccinated or not is your choice and your right, but a job isn't.

exactly

[oldtimer28]

United Airlines about to let go of 600 employees.

150 employees of a hospital about to get fired.

If you're a Federal employee, you're about to be fired if you don't get vaccinated.



I know most of you kids on here hate America and wish you were living in Soviet Russia right now, but pretend you actually gave a shit about America for once, and ask yourselves, is this right? I'm sure we all have friends and family members who may be affected by this tyrannical rule of getting fired unless you get the vaccine.


And what's even worse is that most of you hate Big Government. But you're taking Big Government's side here and you're probably confused as to why you are siding with them. On one hand, "f*ck the government" you probably tell yourselves every day, but on the other hand, people are suffering at the hands of big government, and you're somehow siding with them. So which is it? Side with Big Government and Big Pharma and let them control our lives? Or side with everyone else and tell Big Government to f*ck off cause they don't control our bodies?? I'm sure you kids are for abortions being legal, and you strongly oppose Big Government "telling women what to do with their bodies" as you're always clamoring about, so why aren't you opposing Big Government here when they are telling people what to do with their bodies by injecting themselves with a vaccine? Why the double standard? Why the inconsistency?

Be an American for once and rise up against this tyranny.

Great post.

Especially egregious that we are in a pandemic where the medical front line took on unknown risk but are now fired in the name of safety...

People are supporting less qualified and experienced staff in a pandemic...

For not getting a needle that potentially could kill you for the benefit of not dying from a disease 99.97% survive and which they have survived to date in high risk situations...


Madness!

[Patrick Chewing]

Great post.

Especially egregious that we are in a pandemic where the medical front line took on unknown risk but are now fired in the name of safety...

People are supporting less qualified and experienced staff in a pandemic...

For not getting a needle that potentially could kill you for the benefit of not dying from a disease 99.97% survive and which they have survived to date in high risk situations...


Madness!

Imagine firing a decorated airline pilot, and then hiring someone who just got out of flight school and doesn't have enough experience flying jet engine airplanes.


Or even worse, hiring someone named Abdul or Mohammed to replace him. Well, their credentials look legit, ehh what the hell, I'm sure you guys moved from Islamabad just to fly the friendly skies. :lol

[oldtimer28]

You can't fire someone because they're black, but if someone shows up to a client meeting with a green mohawk and face-tatts then yeah you would probably fire them. Where do I draw that hard line exactly? IDK it's a tough question. I'd have to give it more thought.

But one can't change whether they're a certain race. If you decide to get tatts and piercings that make you a tough hire to most companies, that was your choice and your right to do that and it's their right to also not give you a job.

I think the root of your question is more about if one is for or against the vaccine. I think it's better to be vaccinated than not vaccinated, but it should be up to the person. So I don't see anything wrong with asking your employees to get a free vaccine. I mean just because it's a govt job doesn't mean it's a right. You expect your city planner to have a architectural engineering degree or something related to the field, don't you?

Terrible example.

1. There is no choice for the vaccine. Some are forced.

It's like someone at gunpoint 'choosing to hand over their wallet' so choosing to starve if that was all their money...

2. Even if it is a choice, on the current left view, we have a choice as to our gender by what we identify by. Can we choose to identify as vax or non vax and what makes that different?

3. Why bring race into everything but if you must, why discriminate on race indirectly by discriminating on vaccination as this will harm more African Americans than Caucasians due to vaccination data to date?

[j3lademaster]

Terrible example.

1. There is no choice for the vaccine. Some are forced.

It's like someone at gunpoint 'choosing to hand over their wallet' so choosing to starve if that was all their money...

2. Even if it is a choice, on the current left view, we have a choice as to our gender by what we identify by. Can we choose to identify as vax or non vax and what makes that different?

3. Why bring race into everything but if you must, why discriminate on race indirectly by discriminating on vaccination as this will harm more African Americans than Caucasians due to vaccination data to date?I think you meant to type "terrible examples:". All these are are idiotic strawmans.

1. no they aren't.

2. So do you agree with the left view? People should just identify as vaxxed to keep their jobs? I'm confused by this incoherent strawman. The left-leaning BLM is mostly antivax. This is stupid.

3. read what i replied to, they brought race into it and asked me a question.

You literally addressed nothing I said.

And again, it goes to the root of the question. Do you think vaccines help more than they hurt?

[Patrick Chewing]

And again, it goes to the root of the question. Do you think vaccines help more than they hurt?

Now that I think about it, this was never about slowing the spread. It was about vaccinating every single American in this country. I mean, this buffoon Biden said things wouldn't go back to normal until 98% of the country was vaccinated. 98%??? :roll:


They can't even track illegals coming into this country who may potentially have Covid, but they're going to give us a warning about things not getting back to normal until 98% of people are vaccinated. Close to 60% of the country is fully vaccinated. If you combine that with the people who have a natural immunity to it who have already contracted the virus, then how many more people does the government need to be vaccinated until THEY deem life in this country can go back to normal??

You see, this is why people are against mandates, not against the vaccine. Let the vaccine do it's work. Let those who are on the fence ponder it. Let those who refuse to take it do what they want. Vaccine mandators don't care about anti-vaxxers getting the vaccine or getting sick and dying. They don't care about those people. They care about the power, the influence. The politics behind it. If 98% of the country gets vaccinated and let's face it, to get to that number, you're more than likely vaccinating by force, then Biden and the administration look like winners.


We see right through that shit.

[j3lademaster]

You see, this is why people are against mandates, not against the vaccine. Let the vaccine do it's work. Let those who are on the fence ponder it. Let those who refuse to take it do what they want. Yes. 100%. It's like when I debate basketball, I find more often than not when we disagree it's more disagreeing on criteria we use to judge players rather than how good that player is in a vacuum. And I try to apply that to everything, so when I agree or disagree with someone I try to look at the issue in multiple angles. I don't have any problem with people not wanting to get the vaccine, what I have a problem with is the antivax people trying to say people shouldn't get it. And I get it 1st amendment and all, they have the right to say what they want; but if you're not a virologist you should cool it. And if that's not good enough, whatever: do you. Even when people are in the right, shoving facts in their face and dunking on someone just veers them more to the other side. People are just weak-minded and that's what they do.

[tpols]

70+K nurses in NYC fired. During a supposed hospital shortage. Dr. Tontoz would be proud.

[tontoz]

70+K nurses in NYC fired. During a supposed hospital shortage. Dr. Tontoz would be proud.

70k nurses fired?

:roll:

Where'd you hear that, project veritas?




Thousands of N.Y. Health Care Workers Get Vaccinated Ahead of Deadline
Though many hospital and nursing home employees remain unvaccinated, officials say worst-case staffing shortages seem less likely.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/nyregion/vaccine-health-care-workers-mandate.html

[bladefd]

You honestly don't believe it's overreach for the Federal Government to demand it's employees be vaccinated, or lose their job? Your answer to this is to just put in a different government come election time?

Don't like it? Vote for someone else or run yourself. It's a democracy we live in so you won't always be in majority.

Have a problem with our system of government or our Constitution? Go kick rocks. Perhaps you, nanners and Akrazotile can have a rock-kicking contest together. Tpols can be on the sideline with the pom poms.

[oldtimer28]

I think you meant to type "terrible examples:". All these are are idiotic strawmans.

1. no they aren't.

2. So do you agree with the left view? People should just identify as vaxxed to keep their jobs? I'm confused by this incoherent strawman. The left-leaning BLM is mostly antivax. This is stupid.

3. read what i replied to, they brought race into it and asked me a question.

You literally addressed nothing I said.

And again, it goes to the root of the question. Do you think vaccines help more than they hurt?


Last attempt to help your poor mind.

1. Yes they are - (you just ignored my point) but an obvious example are children for instance - anyone under 18 deprived of a job because parents won't inject them with drugs that have only been, at most, 'tested' for months on thousands of people.

2. Try again.

3. Try again.

Are you on drugs? Mentally challenged? I addressed what you said. Just deal with point 1 if it helps your obviously small mind.


Don't turn this into vax vs non vax so you can spew your beliefs. This is about consent and forced job losses.

You're blocked for your idiotic response to me. Time and oxygen waster.

[bladefd]

70k nurses fired?

:roll:

Where'd you hear that, project veritas?



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/nyregion/vaccine-health-care-workers-mandate.html

There are about 10k registered nurses in NYC altogether, yet somehow 70k got fired :facepalm

[tpols]

Some 16% of the state’s 450,000 hospital staff, or roughly 70,000 workers, have not been fully vaccinated, the governor’s office said.


Dr. Tontoz we need your expert input on this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/26/new-york-national-guard-unvaccinated-health-workers-governor-kathy-hochul

[oldtimer28]

Now that I think about it, this was never about slowing the spread. It was about vaccinating every single American in this country. I mean, this buffoon Biden said things wouldn't go back to normal until 98% of the country was vaccinated. 98%??? :roll:


They can't even track illegals coming into this country who may potentially have Covid, but they're going to give us a warning about things not getting back to normal until 98% of people are vaccinated. Close to 60% of the country is fully vaccinated. If you combine that with the people who have a natural immunity to it who have already contracted the virus, then how many more people does the government need to be vaccinated until THEY deem life in this country can go back to normal??

You see, this is why people are against mandates, not against the vaccine. Let the vaccine do it's work. Let those who are on the fence ponder it. Let those who refuse to take it do what they want. Vaccine mandators don't care about anti-vaxxers getting the vaccine or getting sick and dying. They don't care about those people. They care about the power, the influence. The politics behind it. If 98% of the country gets vaccinated and let's face it, to get to that number, you're more than likely vaccinating by force, then Biden and the administration look like winners.


We see right through that shit.

Precisely - no surprise that Fauci pushed drugs/vaccines for years and had doctors screaming herd immunity for the flu - Covid arrives and the brainwashed masses jump on it like a religious conversion.

[tontoz]

Dr. Tontoz we need your expert input on this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/26/new-york-national-guard-unvaccinated-health-workers-governor-kathy-hochul


So it's "hospital staff" not nurses.

It's "not fully vaccinated" instead of fired.

And that article was before the deadline so technically nobody was fired at that time.


https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/.highres/RIF-Logo-black_large.gif

[tontoz]

They aren't firing people who had their first dose. In some cases they aren't firing people who haven't taken any doses they are just putting them on unpaid leave for a period of time. If they still don't get vaxed then they are let go.

[j3lademaster]

Last attempt to help your poor mind.

1. Yes they are - children for instance

2. Try again.

3. Try again.

Are you on drugs? Mentally challenged? I addressed what you said. Just deal with point 1 if it helps your obviously small mind.


Don't turn this into vax vs non vax so you can spew your beliefs. This is about consent and forced job losses.

You're blocked for your idiotic response to me. Time and oxygen waster.There's like 20 ppl on this site. Who do you even talk to if you just block whoever you have a disagreement with? Why not just get contact info for the 4-5 guys you agree with on everything and just create your own safe-space discord?

Just the fact that you can't see how one's belief in the vaccine correlates directly with op's question means you're a total moron.

[j3lademaster]

There are about 10k registered nurses in NYC altogether, yet somehow 70k got fired :facepalmI think you guys are looking at different data. You and Tontoz are referring to NYC while Tpols is looking at the entire state of NY.

[tontoz]

I think you guys are looking at different data. You and Tontoz are referring to NYC while Tpols is looking at the entire state of NY.


Even for the entire state 70k is ridiculous. Plus his article didn't even say nurses but reading comprehension is pretty low among the antivax crowd.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://youtu.be/LfZdErhkc-Y

Wake Up New York...

Do you want to be like California?... Or do you want to be more like Texas?

[j3lademaster]

Even for the entire state 70k is ridiculous. Plus his article didn't even say nurses but reading comprehension is pretty low among the antivax crowd.true. I was wrong anyway, he was talking about NYC. I jumped to conclusions without reading all of the posts.

[Axe]

Op what happened to your pfizer vaccination?

[tontoz]

Op what happened to your pfizer vaccination?


He said the day after.the 2nd dose was rough but after that he was fine. Same story with me.

[j3lademaster]

Op what happened to your pfizer vaccination?Pat can be vaccinated and still believe unvaxxed people should still have the right to their federal job. It doesn't make him a hypocrite.

[Axe]

Pat can be vaccinated and still believe unvaxxed people should still have the right to their federal job. It doesn't make him a hypocrite.
So people would rather lose their jobs and be more vulnerable to the virus instead of being vaccinated?

[j3lademaster]

So people would rather lose their jobs and be more vulnerable to the virus instead of being vaccinated?if it's that important to them

https://media3.giphy.com/media/e1s8C0YnnfjlRf7mEr/giphy.gif?cid=790b76115fc32a42da31c11d657e86789b67 8d0c68ec1570&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[iamgine]

In a global pandemic, vaccine being a job requirement seems reasonable to me.

If your job requires you to work from 9-5 and you convert to Islam and had to pray at 2PM, is it unreasonable that the company doesn't allow that? "But but religious reason"

[Patrick Chewing]

So people would rather lose their jobs and be more vulnerable to the virus instead of being vaccinated?

People would rather not be put in that position. If I don't need to take the shot, then why are you forcing me?

[Axe]

People would rather not be put in that position. If I don't need to take the shot, then why are you forcing me?
So you can reduce the harm from this virus that you may inflict on other people?

[Patrick Chewing]

So you can reduce the harm from this virus that you may inflict on other people?

You can still get Covid even with having taken the vaccine.

You see, we can go around in circles here amigo.

[Axe]

You can still get Covid even with having taken the vaccine.

You see, we can go around in circles here amigo.
I mean that's exactly my point, fatso. Except that what you may inflict or that if you become afflicted with it, the symptoms and risks of being hospitalized may be less than if you aren't vaxxed at all.

[Patrick Chewing]

I mean that's exactly my point, fatso. Except that what you may inflict or that if you become afflicted with it, the symptoms and risks of being hospitalized may be less than if you aren't vaxxed at all.


Hey idiot, what do you care if the symptoms and risks may be higher for someone who isn't vaccinated? It's their body and it's their choice. If you're vaccinated, then why should you care about who's vaccinated or not? Otherwise, why in the hell did you get vaccinated in the first place?

[bladefd]

Hey idiot, what do you care if the symptoms and risks may be higher for someone who isn't vaccinated? It's their body and it's their choice. If you're vaccinated, then why should you care about who's vaccinated or not? Otherwise, why in the hell did you get vaccinated in the first place?

Axe is right tbh. We all should care because those people are taking up hospital spots and costing us money as a nation. It would be cheaper for them to get vaccinated than run up the bill to tens of thousands of dollars per sick person.

I did suggest a way out though a week ago: unvaccinated sign a waiver that the hospital will not treat them for covid. How about that, Chewbacca?

[Patrick Chewing]

Axe is right tbh. We all should care because those people are taking up hospital spots and costing us money as a nation. It would be cheaper for them to get vaccinated than run up the bill to tens of thousands of dollars per sick person.

I did suggest a way out though a week ago: unvaccinated sign a waiver that the hospital will not treat them for covid. How about that, Chewbacca?

Individuality always reigns supreme over Group Think. Group Think politics is Communism. There are plenty of other things costing us way more money than people who do not vaccinate. When you solve the drug and opioid crisis in America that plague our hospitals first, and not Covid, then we can talk.

Again, to each his own. True autonomy. Government has no business interfering with our lives.


And how much of a psychopath do you truly have to be to entertain the idea that a hospital will refuse a patient because they are not vaccinated?? You get more and more radical as each day passes.

Here's a sensible approach. If you cost more to treat, you pay more to get treated. Whether it be up front or with higher insurance premiums. But your Orwellian psycho babble has no place in this country.

[Axe]

Hey idiot, what do you care if the symptoms and risks may be higher for someone who isn't vaccinated? It's their body and it's their choice. If you're vaccinated, then why should you care about who's vaccinated or not? Otherwise, why in the hell did you get vaccinated in the first place?
So they won't harm me or my loved ones significantly through viral transmission, duh. :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

So they won't harm me or my loved ones significantly through viral transmission, duh. :lol

Are you vaccinated? If you are, then you have nothing to worry about. Stop trying to ruin people's lives by having them fired. Moron.

[Axe]

Axe is right tbh. We all should care because those people are taking up hospital spots and costing us money as a nation. It would be cheaper for them to get vaccinated than run up the bill to tens of thousands of dollars per sick person.

I did suggest a way out though a week ago: unvaccinated sign a waiver that the hospital will not treat them for covid. How about that, Chewbacca?
:cheers:

I've had relatives who died from this. Yes, they may be a bit old and thus, have compromised immune systems but for us who weren't affected by this, it's better to be safe than sorry. It's better to prevent than to cure. I don't understand why there are many folks who still don't think the same way.

[Axe]

Are you vaccinated? If you are, then you have nothing to worry about. Stop trying to ruin people's lives by having them fired. Moron.
I am. Btw, i never said they should be fired just because they are unvaxxed, poopsie.

[Patrick Chewing]

I am. Btw, i never said they should be fired just because they are unvaxxed, poopsie.

Then stop defending this ridiculous and unethical idea that people should be fired for not being vaccinated.

[Cleverness]

Should people have the freedom to refuse medical intrusions into their bodies? They certainly don't when it comes to the Trump Vaccine.

But we do have the freedom to:

1) accidental injury due to partying too hard or doing dumb shit
2) alcohol overdoses
3) other drug overdoses
4) attempted suicide
5) HIV, HEP C, mainly from drug abuse and lifestyle choices
6) cardiovascular complications - poor diet, exercise, sleep, along with choosing not to take their preventative meds
7) a pt with influenza symptoms who did not get vaccinated for influenza
8) non-compliance with diabetes meds & again, poor lifestyle choices
9) COPD exacerbation in an non-compliant person - smokers, for example
10) people who put off routine cancer screenings and/or ignored warning signs for months and chose not to get checked out, now trying to be admitted for advanced cancer
11) an HPV pt not vaccinated with Gardasil

and force hospitals to take care of us.

[Lakers Legend#32]

The Billy Bobs, Jethrows and Chewings don't understand the vague concept (to them) that Covid could kill them so it is in their best interests to get the vaccine.
It's much more a reality that they could lose their jobs if they don't take the stab.
So fire their ass.

[Cleverness]

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/9627-Figure-4.png


It is in their best interests to get the Trump vaccine. It's much more a reality that they could lose their jobs if they don't take the stab. So fire their ass.

Ok, but what if they are already unemployed?

Also, should we take bladefd's position and not allow them to enter a hospital or an ambulance?


If they die from their own negligence then they die.

I would also say that vaccine cards should be made mandatory to enter a hospital or for an ambulance to take you if you have a bad case of covid and aren't vaccinated. If you die, then you die. Consider it a sort of waiver.

No mandates though - except one. Only those vaccinated may enter a hospital or ambulance. That's it. Nothing else.

[tpols]

Too many people are holding out. Businesses are starting to cave.

[Axe]

Then stop defending this ridiculous and unethical idea that people should be fired for not being vaccinated.
I don't, poopsie. But if that's what they want, then let them be. It won't affect me either way.

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://youtu.be/SSIOXZEUhsM


https://liberatehealth.medecision.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/time-guardians-frontline-healthcare-workers-2020-cover-768x1024.jpg

[3ba11]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPsjH-FJFww

[Axe]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vPsjH-FJFww
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[AKA_AAP]

So the Racist democrats went from, "I'm never taking the Trump Vaccine" to "We would never mandate the Trump Vaccine" to "Everyone has to take the Trump Vaccine or else" :roll: