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iamgine
09-30-2021, 01:45 AM
If not, perhaps top 10?
Cold soul
09-30-2021, 01:59 AM
Def top 10 I might even as high as #5. 2011 Derrick Rose was special.
NBAGOAT
09-30-2021, 04:06 AM
Top 10 yes no on 5. Doubt people are taking that version of Rose over Kawhi/harden. Lebron ofc has a good case to be better too
iamgine
09-30-2021, 02:16 PM
Would you take him over Lillard? Lillard seems to be the placeholder for that 10th spot.
SouBeachTalents
09-30-2021, 02:20 PM
Just from the top 10 list I made yesterday

Durant
Kawhi
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Jokic
LeBron
Embiid
Harden
AD

Is there anyone you're definitively taking Rose over from that list?
Phoenix
09-30-2021, 02:23 PM
I don't think he was necessarily top 5 in 2011, and IMO the top 10 in 2021 is stronger. Alot of the 2000s upper tier guys like Kobe, Duncan, Garnett were on the slide to varying degrees. You had Lebron, Wade, Dirk, Howard......was Kobe better than Rose in 2011? I'm too lazy to look up who were the top dogs that year after the aforementioned.
pandiani17
09-30-2021, 02:30 PM
Are you joking? D-Rose was a beast in 2011, he had the 3-pointer he developed during the summer, buzzer-beaters, athletic dunks and was the leader of a team that won 60 games. I have always been amazed at how pre-injury D-Rose is underrated in this forum.
KingMambaFan
10-01-2021, 07:43 AM
Top 10
PeroAntic
10-02-2021, 06:12 PM
The fact that 2011 DRose would struggle to be a top 5-10 player today is evidence that he is still a beast right now, and that it is the competition that has improved/increased. Prime Rose would definitely have a field day with today's spacing, but present day Rose pretty much compensated for all his athletic ability with skill and finesse. If present day Rose could play 38 minutes for 70+ games per season, he would be a top 10 player in the league just as prime Rose would be.
1987_Lakers
10-02-2021, 06:25 PM
He wasn't even top 5 in 2011.
jlip
10-02-2021, 07:04 PM
He wasn't even top 5 in 2011.

I remember debates when it was clear that he would be MVP over whether he would actually make the All NBA 1st team.
kawhileonard2
10-02-2021, 11:27 PM
He wasn't even top 5 in 2011.

He was the best according to Jon Barry.
Axe
10-03-2021, 06:47 AM
The fact that 2011 DRose would struggle to be a top 5-10 player today is evidence that he is still a beast right now, and that it is the competition that has improved/increased. Prime Rose would definitely have a field day with today's spacing, but present day Rose pretty much compensated for all his athletic ability with skill and finesse. If present day Rose could play 38 minutes for 70+ games per season, he would be a top 10 player in the league just as prime Rose would be.
Idk, seems kinda farfetched.
j3lademaster
10-03-2021, 11:38 AM
That was Dwight's MVP.
HylianNightmare
10-03-2021, 11:41 AM
When would mvp drose not be top 5 in anytime in league history?
HylianNightmare
10-03-2021, 11:42 AM
That was Dwight's MVP.

Also this
Kobe_Bryant
10-03-2021, 12:30 PM
I'm not even sure rose was a top 5 player in 2011

myself
wade
Dwight
Durant
dirk

all better
000
10-03-2021, 02:36 PM
No, monta ellis with hops isnt top 5 in any era
FultzNationRISE
10-03-2021, 03:30 PM
Just from the top 10 list I made yesterday

Durant
Kawhi
Giannis
Curry
Luka
Jokic
LeBron
Embiid
Harden
AD

Is there anyone you're definitively taking Rose over from that list?

Answer in bold.

Other than that tho... it’s hard to find a spot for him. He wasnt a strong three point shooter in 2011, which would be a bigger problem now than it was then.
TAZORAC
10-04-2021, 12:10 AM
Interesting thing about Rose in 2011 was he couldn't shoot. He's like Morant on steroids, but Morant shoots better, so I don't know.