Pippen's peak PPG was 22 = worst-ever for winning sidekick?

[3ba11]

Horry, Pau and Jason Terry are the only ones that have comparable peak scoring ability (peak PPG) in a series or season - virtually every other winning sidekick had far superior peak PPG, such as Curry, Kobe, Kareem, Wade, Kyrie, AD,

low PPG + worst efficiency ever = worst-scoring sidekick that ever won.

[8Ball]

For majority of the series played, Big *** Pip outplayed or played to EVEN the opposing team's best player. That's why Pippen is a top 20 player all time and a top 5 player for all of the 90s.


Forget 2nd options. Let's see how this scrub Pippen compares to the other teams best player

1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS

Again, these are the other teams best players, I haven't even used a 2nd option in any of these series

[ELITEpower23]

Vlade Divac
Terry Porter
John Starks
Jeff Hornacek
Gary Payton
Rik Smits

:oldlol:

[ELITEpower23]

For majority of the series played, Big *** Pip outplayed or played to EVEN the opposing team's best player. That's why Pippen is a top 20 player all time and a top 5 player for all of the 90s.


Forget 2nd options. Let's see how this scrub Pippen compares to the other teams best player

1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS

Again, these are the other teams best players, I haven't even used a 2nd option in any of these series

IT'S OVER

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[3ba11]

IT'S OVER

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0ErLeqamV3UOARsA/giphy.gif


He made it all up those numbers aren't right.

It's a troll post.. fake post

^^^^ only 7 of the 16 series you showed had Pippen outscoring the opposing 1st option, and you omitted 8 series where he was destroyed..

Pippen outscored the opposing 1st option in less than 1/3 of the series during title runs (7/24), and 75% of the time he outscored the opposing 2nd option - again, this matches the lower tier of winning sidekick that rarely outscores opposing 1st options and never achieves elite 1st option stats or wins FMVP (Klay, Jason Terry, Pippen, Rip, Pau), while the top tier does all these things routinely (Curry, Kobe, Kareem, McHale, Worthy, Tony Parker, Iggy, Dumars, Wade, AD, Kyrie, Middleton).

And we've only considered title runs - Pippen caused loss from 88-90' and 95' by getting destroyed in every series - ditto from 99-03'... He was infact outscored by opposing 2nd option in half the series of his career - this proves that he wasn't a legit 2nd option, while his poor efficiency also confirms that he couldn't handle the load/volume... Ultimately, he had arguably the lowest PPG of any winning sidekick + worst efficiency ever = worst-scoring sidekick that ever won

[Bronbron23]

Horry, Pau and Jason Terry are the only ones that have comparable peak scoring ability (peak PPG) - virtually every other winning sidekick had far superior peak PPG, such as Curry, Kobe, Kareem, Wade, Kyrie, AD,

Pippen had among the worst PPG + worst efficiency ever = worst-scoring sidekick that ever won.

Tbh I'm not sure but i feel like there's been a few that were worse offensively and a shit ton that were worse defensively

[3ba11]

Tbh I'm not sure but i feel like there's been a few that were worse offensively and a shit ton that were worse defensively


Pippen's peak PPG capability was 22.0 ppg

That's the worst-ever among winning sidekicks outside of Horry, Jason Terry and Pau

Even Klay and Rip Hamilton had series or seasons of over 22 ppg

[Phoenix]

Clyde Drexler 1995: 21.4 season, 20.5 playoffs, 21.5 finals

[ELITEpower23]

Clyde Drexler 1995: 21.4 season, 20.5 playoffs, 21.5 finals

Wait wasn't that MJ's greatest adversary? A Pippen-Lite?

[StrongLurk]

3ball makes alt accounts and responds to his own 3ball posts "disagreeing" with his main account posts...just so he can act like there are people disagreeing with him and thus allowing him to get his daily addiction fix of copy/paste bullshit.

I've never interacted with a bigger, more insane loser on the internet.

Lebron James broke this guy so badly, on a GOAT level of owning, it's wild.

3ball also can't escape his own post logic that dictates MJ>Lebron...but also dictates Lebron>pretty much everyone else (at a minimum his own posts about MJ vs Lebron put Lebron as the 4th best player of all time). His hate for Lebron FAR exceeds his love of MJ, basketball, or anything else in life.

You'd need MJ himself to but a bullet through 3ball's head just to get him to stop being a crazy person.

[RRR3]

3ball makes alt accounts and responds to his own 3ball posts "disagreeing" with his main account posts...just so he can act like there are people disagreeing with him and thus allowing him to get his daily addiction fix of copy/paste bullshit.

I've never interacted with a bigger, more insane loser on the internet.

Lebron James broke this guy so badly, on a GOAT level of owning, it's wild.

3ball also can't escape his own post logic that dictates MJ>Lebron...but also dictates Lebron>pretty much everyone else (at a minimum his own posts about MJ vs Lebron put Lebron as the 4th best player of all time). His hate for Lebron FAR exceeds his love of MJ, basketball, or anything else in life.

You'd need MJ himself to but a bullet through 3ball's head just to get him to stop being a crazy person.
For the last time hes not a MJ fan he’s a Kobe stan. He’s just afraid to compare anyone else to LeBron

[3ba11]

Wait wasn't that MJ's greatest adversary? A Pippen-Lite?


Drexler's peak PPG in a series or season was 30, so he was an elite 1st option that played sidekick, just like Curry or Kobe

Otoh, Pippen was a true 2nd option like Klay or Larry Hughes that peaked at 22

[StrongLurk]

For the last time hes not a MJ fan he’s a Kobe stan. He’s just afraid to compare anyone else to LeBron

He can stan whoever he wants, doesn't make my post any less accurate. I broke his dumb logic and forced him to admit that he has Magic, Lebron, and Bill Russell outside of his top ten all time lol.

He's just a big loser who lives a miserable life.

[8Ball]

Clyde Drexler 1995: 21.4 season, 20.5 playoffs, 21.5 finals

Jordan's greatest 90s rival.

[8Ball]

For majority of the series played, Big *** Pip outplayed or played to EVEN the opposing team's best player. That's why Pippen is a top 20 player all time and a top 5 player for all of the 90s.


Forget 2nd options. Let's see how this scrub Pippen compares to the other teams best player

1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS

Again, these are the other teams best players, I haven't even used a 2nd option in any of these series

Threads Cliffs:

IT'S OVER

[HBK_Kliq_2]

Siakam was at 22.9 and plays way dumber then pippen

[8Ball]

Looks like Pippen played to EVEN or even out performed the opposing team's BEST player.



1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS.

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS EVEN
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS EVEN
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS EVEN
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS EVEN
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS

[ELITEpower23]

Looks like Pippen played to EVEN or even out performed the opposing team's BEST player.



1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS.

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS EVEN
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS EVEN
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS EVEN
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS EVEN
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS

IT'S OVER

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[Axe]

Kobe averaged less ppg in 2000 finals than pippen did in 1991.

[Kobe_Bryant]

Looks like Pippen played to EVEN or even out performed the opposing team's BEST player.



1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS.

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS EVEN
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS EVEN
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS EVEN
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS EVEN
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS


This is it. This is Hiroshima and Nagasaki for all Scottie Pippen arguments.



There is no counter to this.


For people that know basketball, we know Pippen was a top 5 player for all the 90s. Top 20 all time.


2011 first round:
Wade - 22/8/5 with 53%ts PERFORMED BETTER
Bosh - 20/9/1 with 54%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Best 76er player Brand - 15/8/0 with 57%ts


2011 2nd round:
Wade - 30/7/5 with 55%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Best celtic player Pierce - 19/5/3 with 57%ts


2011 3rd round:
Bosh - 23/8/1 with 69%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bulls best player Rose - 23/4/6 with 43%ts


2011 finals:
Wade - 27/7/5 with 61%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Mavs best player Dirk - 26/9/2 with 53%ts


2012 2nd round:
Wade - 26/6/3 with 54%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Pacers best player Granger - 13/4/3 with 48%ts

2012 3rd round:
Wade - 21/6/5 with 52%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bostons best player Garnett - 19/9/1 with 52%ts????
or Pierce - 18/4/2 with 43%ts? lol


2013 1st round:
Allen - 17/4/2 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
bucks best player Ellis - 14/3/5 with 45%ts

2013 2nd round:
Bosh - 14/9/2 with 56%ts EVEN
vs
Bulls best player butler - 15/6/2 with 58%ts

2013 Finals:
Wade - 20/4/5/2 with 51%ts EVEN
vs
Spurs best player Duncan 18/12/1 with 55%ts

2014 2nd round:
Wade - 18/4/4 with 55%ts EVEN
vs
nets best player johnson 20/4/2 with 65%ts

2014 finals:
Wade - 15/4/3/2 with 50%ts EVEN
vs
Spurs best player Kawhi - 17/6/2/2 with 75%ts

2015 first round:
Kyrie - 23/5/4 with 58%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Boston best player Thomas - 17/3/7 with 51%ts

2015 2nd round:
Kyrie - 18/2/3 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Bulls best player Rose - 21/5/6 with 45%ts

2015 3rd round:
Jr Smith - 18/8/2 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Hawks best player - Teague 21/3/4 with 52%ts

2016 first round:
Kyrie - 28/2/5 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Pistons best player Drummond - 16/9/0 with 48%ts

2016 2nd round:
Kyrie - 21/2/6 with 62%ts PERFORMED BETTER
Love - 19/13/3 with 50%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Hawks best player millsap - 17/10/3 with 50%ts

2016 3rd round:
Kyrie - 24/3/5 with 56%ts EVEN
vs
Raptors best player derozan - 23/3/3 with 56%ts

2016 finals:
Kyrie - 27/4/4/2 with 56%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Warriors best player curry - 22/5/4 with 58%ts

2017 2nd round:
Kyrie - 22/3/9 with 50%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Raptors best player derozan - 20/4/4 with 51%ts

2017 3rd round:
Kyrie - 26/2/5 with 76%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Boston best player Bradley 19/4/2 with 48%ts

2018 2nd round:
Love - 21/12/2 with 59%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Raptors best player lowry - 18/3/9 with 73%ts

2020 1st round:
Davis - 30/9/4 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
blazers best player lillard - 24/3/4 with 61%ts

2020 2nd round:
Davis - 26/12/4 with 66%ts PERFORMED BETTER(defense included)
vs
rockets best player harden - 29/4/7 with 66%ts

2020 3rd round:
Davis - 31/6/3 with 67%ts PERFORMED BETTER
vs
Nuggets best player Murray - 25/4/7 with 63%ts

2020 finals:
Davis - 25/11/3 with 67%ts PERFORMED BETTER(defense included)
vs
Heat best player Butler - 26/8/9 with 65%ts


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[Kobe_Bryant]

IT'S OVER

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[3ba11]

Threads Cliffs:

IT'S OVER


Yes showing Pippen getting destroyed by everyone means its over

that post shows how bad pippen was

[8Ball]

Looks like Pippen played to EVEN or even out performed the opposing team's BEST player.



1991 FR
Pippen: 20/9/5/3 55%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Ewing: 17/10/2 47%TS.

1991 ECSF
Pippen: 23/9/6 61%TS
Barkley: 26/10/5 67%TS

1991 ECF
Pippen: 22/8/5/3/2 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Isiah: 17/5/6 49%TS

1991 Finals
Pippen: 21/9/7 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Magic: 19/8/12 61%TS

1992 ECF
Pippen: 20/11/6/2/2 54%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 19/2/5 61%TS

1992 Finals
Pippen: 21/8/8 56%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Drexler: 25/8/5 52%TS

1993 ECSF
Pippen: 18/6/5/3 51%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Price: 14/2/6 64%TS

1993 ECF
Pippen: 23/7/4 57%TS
Ewing: 26/11/3 57%TS

1996 FR
Pippen: 20/11/7/3/2 64%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Mourning: 18/6/1 57%TS

1997 FR
Pippen: 17/9/3 50%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Webber: 16/8/3 70%TS

1997 ECSF
Pippen: 22/6/6 52%TS EVEN
Blaylock: 21/7/6 58%TS

1997 ECF
Pippen: 17/5/3 53%TS EVEN
Hardaway: 17/5/6 49%TS

1997 Finals
Pippen: 20/8/4/2/2 54%TS
Malone: 24/11/4 49%TS

1998 FR
Pippen: 18/7/6 53%TS PERFORMED BETTER
Williams: 7/14/2 44%TS

1998 ECSF
Pippen: 18/7/5/3 54%TS EVEN
Rice: 23/5/2 52%TS

1998 ECF
Pippen: 17/8/5 46%TS EVEN
Reggie: 17/2/2 59%TS

Post shows Pippen didn't get destroyed.


Jordan played with stacked teams in all championships.

[8Ball]

No answer.


These facts are devastating to the narrative that Jordan didn't have help.


Jordan had the most stacked team of the entire 90s.

[Kobe_Bryant]

No answer.


These facts are devastating to the narrative that Jordan didn't have help.


Jordan had the most stacked team of the entire 90s.

only 3ball says that lol. everyone has help. lebron had more than anyone

[Axe]

Siakam was at 22.9 and plays way dumber then pippen
Meltdown

[Round Mound]

22 PPG on 49.1% FG is not bad for a player who's role was not to score but to be the best all round defender, all around player and play maker as Point-Forward for the Bulls. Without MJ (who's job was to shoot 30 FGAs PG) he finished top 4 and 7 in PER and among the top 5-10 in Plus/Minus. That doesn't take anything away from Jordan who had 2 All Defensive Teamers in his team (Pippen and Grant), then Rodman as the best post defender and rebounder in the league and the best 6thman in Toni Kukoc. He had the most balanced (Pippen's impact) team of the 90s having both great offense and defense.

[3ba11]

22 PPG on 49.1% FG is not bad





a top 1000 peak and peak capability matched by bums like Larry Hughes or JR Smith

Excluding 1994 when Pippen was a 1st option, Pippen was outscored by the opponent's 2nd leading scorer in 12 of 34 series as a Bull (35%), and was matched with far better efficiency in 2 other critical series (98' ECF, 95' ECSF) - so that's 14 of 34 series as a Bull (41%) where his scoring was inferior to the opposing 2nd option.

During title runs, Pippen was outscored 25% of the time by opposing 2nd options, which matches the lower tier of winning sidekicks that never won FMVP or achieved elite 1st option stats (true 2nd options), such as Klay, Pau, Pippen, Rip Hamilton, and Jason Terry.. This caliber is far below the top tier of winning sidekicks that usually outscore opposing 1st options, achieve elite 1st options stats or win FMVP (Curry, Kobe, Kareem, Wade, Worthy, AD, etc).

For Pippen's career, he was outscored by opposing 2nd options in 19 of 41 series that he wasn't 1st option (nearly 50%) - so Pippen wasn't a legit 2nd option because he was outscored by opposing 2nd options half the time and has low peak scoring ability/PPG, while his worst-ever efficiency confirms that he couldn't handle the volume/load.. Ultimately, his low PPG among winning sidekicks and worst-ever efficiency make him the worst-scoring sidekick that ever won.

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TLDR: Excluding 1994 when Pippen was a 1st option, Pippen was outscored by the opponent's 2nd leading scorer in 12 of 34 series as a Bull (35%), and was matched with far better efficiency in 2 other critical series (98' ECF, 95' ECSF) - so that's 14 of 34 series as a Bull (41%) where his scoring was inferior to the opposing 2nd option.

During title runs, Pippen was outscored 25% of the time by opposing 2nd options, which matches the lower tier of winning sidekicks that never won FMVP or achieved elite 1st option stats (true 2nd options), such as Klay, Pau, Pippen, Rip Hamilton, and Jason Terry.. This caliber is far below the top tier of winning sidekicks that usually outscore opposing 1st options, achieve elite 1st options stats or win FMVP (Curry, Kobe, Kareem, Wade, Worthy, AD, etc).

For Pippen's career, he was outscored by opposing 2nd options in 19 of 41 series that he wasn't 1st option (nearly 50%) - so Pippen wasn't a legit 2nd option because he was outscored by opposing 2nd options half the time and has low peak scoring ability/PPG, while his worst-ever efficiency (https://i.ibb.co/qBBHvB1/chrome-d-EXe-R4x-E8t.jpg) confirms that he couldn't handle the volume/load.. Ultimately, his low PPG among winning sidekicks and worst-ever efficiency make him the worst-scoring sidekick that ever won.

The most common rings are those won with elite 1st options playing sidekick like Kobe, Curry or Kareem ("1b" sidekicks that have achieved elite 1st option stats or FMVP in their career), while it's much less common to win rings with true 2nd options that never achieved FMVP or 25 ppg (Klay, Pippen, Pau, Rip Hamilton, Jason Terry, Horry) - MJ has 6 rings with these true 2nd options, which is why he's goat.



* From 1999-2003, Pippen was outscored by the opponent's 2nd leading scorer in 7 of 7 series - these numbers will be added to Pippen's Bull career, shown below:


1988 1st Round

Pippen'....... 10.6 ppg... 47.1 fg... 49.4 ts
L Nance...... 16.8 ppg... 53.1 fg... 58.4 ts


1988 2nd Round

Pippen......... 9.4 ppg... 45.8 fg... 48.5 ts
Dantley...... 18.6 ppg... 50.0 fg... 58.9 ts


1989 1st Round

Pippen....... 15.0 ppg... 39.7 fg... 51.0 ts
L Nance..... 19.4 ppg... 55.1 fg... 58.9 ts


1989 2nd Round

Pippen....... 14.8 ppg... 58.1 fg... 64.5 ts
Newman.... 15.5 ppg... 45.8 fg... 56.0 ts


1989 ECF

Pippen......... 9.4 ppg... 40.4 fg... 45.3 ts
Johnson..... 13.7 ppg... 53.3 fg... 59.6 ts


1990 1st Round

Pippen....... 22.5 ppg... 57.1 fg... 63.4 ts
Pierce........ 22.3 ppg... 46.7 fg... 60.4 ts


1990 2nd Round

Pippen........ 20.8 ppg... 53.3 fg... 58.1 ts
Hawkins...... 19.8 ppg... 47.7 fg... 62.6 ts


1990 ECF

Pippen....... 16.6 ppg... 42.6 fg... 52.0 ts
Isiah'......... 17.6 ppg... 39.0 fg... 51.0 ts


1991 1st Round

Pippen....... 19.7 ppg... 50.0 fg... 55.2 ts
Ewing........ 16.7 ppg... 40.0 fg... 47.3 ts


1991 2nd Round

Pippen........ 23.4 ppg... 57.1 fg... 60.9 ts
Hawkins...... 19.8 ppg... 43.1 fg... 64.4 ts


1991 ECF

Pippen......... 22.5 ppg... 47.5 fg... 56.3 ts
Aguirre........ 16.8 ppg... 45.3 fg... 55.4 ts


1991 Finals

Pippen'...... 20.6 ppg... 45.3 fg... 52.7 ts
Magic........ 18.3 ppg... 43.1 fg... 61.2 ts


1992 1st Round

Pippen....... 24.0 ppg... 55.3 fg... 63.0 ts
Ewing........ 19.0 ppg... 37.5 fg... 42.5 ts


1992 2nd Round

Pippen'....... 16.0 ppg... 40.4 fg... 49.3 ts
X-Man........ 18.6 ppg... 49.6 fg... 52.7 ts


1992 ECF

Pippen....... 19.8 ppg... 47.3 fg... 53.6 ts
Nance........ 17.8 ppg... 46.7 fg... 51.9 ts


1992 Finals

Pippen'....... 20.8 ppg... 48.4 fg... 56.0 ts
Porter......... 16.2 ppg... 47.1 fg... 57.1 ts


1993 1st Round

Pippen...... 15.3 ppg... 42.2 fg... 45.7 ts
Willis........ 16.7 ppg... 46.7 fg... 48.9 ts


1993 2nd Round

Pippen......... 18.3 ppg... 47.5 fg... 51.0 ts
Daughtery.... 16.0 ppg... 56.1 fg... 56.1 ts


1993 ECF

Pippen'...... 22.5 ppg... 51.0 fg... 57.3 ts
Starks....... 15.2 ppg... 45.3 fg... 54.6 ts


1993 Finals

Pippen...... 21.2 ppg... 43.9 fg... 45.9 ts
Majerle..... 17.2 ppg... 44.3 fg... 58.7 ts


1994 1st Round

Pippen...... 25.3 ppg... 49.3 fg... 53.7 ts
Mills......... 17.0 ppg... 50.0 fg... 59.5 ts


1994 2nd Round

Pippen...... 21.7 ppg... 40.5 fg... 51.3 ts
Ewing....... 22.9 ppg... 53.0 fg... 58.1 ts


1995 1st Round

Pippen........ 16.0 ppg... 51.2 fg... 60.2 ts
Johnson...... 20.8 ppg... 47.7 fg... 54.6 ts


1995 2nd Round

Pippen'...... 19.0 ppg... 40.9 fg... 52.2 ts
Penny........ 18.5 ppg... 44.0 fg... 54.7 ts


1996 1st Round

Pippen..,,..... 19.7 ppg... 55.6 fg... 64.0 ts
Hardaway'.... 17.7 ppg... 46.5 fg... 57.5 ts


1996 2nd Round

Pippen..,,,,,.... 15.6 ppg... 33.0 fg... 41.6 ts
Oakley........... 13.4 ppg... 50.0 fg... 57.7 ts


1996 ECF

Pippen'...... 18.5 ppg... 45.3 fg... 50.8 ts
Penny........ 25.5 ppg... 46.9 fg... 55.2 ts


1996 Finals

Pippen...... 15.7 ppg... 34.0 fg... 42.9 ts
Payton...... 18.0 ppg... 44.4 fg... 53.2 ts


1997 1st Round

Pippen....... 16.7 ppg... 38.9 fg... 49.8 ts
Howard...... 18.7 ppg... 45.5 fg... 53.9 ts


1997 2nd Round

Pippen...... 22.2 ppg... 42.9 fg... 52.4 ts
Smith....... 17.6 ppg... 31.9 fg... 49.1 ts


1997 ECF

Pippen......... 16.8 ppg... 41.7 fg... 52.6 ts
Mourning..... 15.6 ppg... 46.8 fg... 56.2 ts


1997 Finals

Pippen....... 20.0 ppg... 42.1 fg... 54.1 ts
Stockton.... 15.0 ppg... 50.0 fg... 61.3 ts


1998 1st Round

Pippen....... 18.0 ppg... 43.6 fg... 53.1 ts
Kitttles...... 16.3 ppg... 42.5 fg... 54.6 ts


1998 2nd Round

Pippen....... 17.8 ppg... 44.3 fg... 53.5 ts
Mason........ 12.6 ppg... 51.0 fg... 55.3 ts


1998 ECF

Pippen....... 16.6 ppg... 39.2 fg... 46.3 ts
Smits........ 16.3 ppg... 55.4 fg... 62.8 ts


1998 Finals

Pippen.......... 15.7 ppg... 41.0 fg... 50.2 ts
Hornacek...... 10.7 ppg... 41.1 fg... 50.1 ts


* From 1999-2003, Pippen was outscored by the opponent's 2nd leading scorer in 7 of 7 series - these numbers will be added to Pippen's Bull career, shown above.