Was the 2012 Thunder the most stacked team to lose in the Finals?

[000]

3 MVPs and a centre that nearly won DPOY that season

Edit: Theres some teams like showtime with 2 but I cant think of many with 3 right now. 2004 lakers?

[Axe]

2016 warriors weren't stacked after posting the most rs wins in league history?

[ELITEpower23]

2012 Thunder
2013 Spurs
2016 Warriors

In that order

[000]

2016 warriors weren't stacked after posting the most rs wins in league history?

How many MVPs for them? 1 right? Maybe Draymond will win MVP this year

[Axe]

How many MVPs for them? 1 right? Maybe Draymond will win MVP this year
Foxtrot
Oscar
Hotel

[j3lademaster]

04 Lakers right? Payton was coming off a 20/8 assist season and Malone was coming off a 20/8 reb season. Shaq was still arguably in the backend of his prime, and Kobe was 25.

[000]

04 Lakers right? Payton was coming off a 20/8 assist season and Malone was coming off a 20/8 reb season. Shaq was still arguably in the backend of his prime, and Kobe was 25.

Yeah I can see it. I did mention them in an edit

[Hey Yo]

04 Lakers right? Payton was coming off a 20/8 assist season and Malone was coming off a 20/8 reb season. Shaq was still arguably in the backend of his prime, and Kobe was 25.

Biggest upset in Finals history.

[2much_knowledge]

3 MVPs and a centre that nearly won DPOY that season

Edit: Theres some teams like showtime with 2 but I cant think of many with 3 right now. 2004 lakers?

3 mvps?

Not a single mvp by 2012, including a 6th man and ibaka with fewer allstar appearances than Ilgauskas.

Put this roster in 2014 - 15 and then it would have made some sense

[2much_knowledge]

2012 Thunder
2013 Spurs
2016 Warriors

In that order

Another creative way to suck lebron dry. Good job

[000]

3 mvps?

Not a single mvp by 2012, including a 6th man and ibaka with fewer allstar appearances than Ilgauskas.

Put this roster in 2014 - 15 and then it would have made some sense
Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP

[Manny98]

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP
Yes and neither of them were close to their MVP peaks in 2012 :facepalm

[NBAGOAT]

Another creative way to suck lebron dry. Good job

Definitely what op is doing but those teams are all up there too

[000]

Yes and neither of them were close to their MVP peaks in 2012 :facepalm
Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners.

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners

[Manny98]

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners.

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners
But they weren't MVP level in 2012...

[Phoenix]

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners.

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners

Wade at his peak was an MVP level player and better than Westbrook and Harden( not as a flat-out scorer, but as a overall player).

[000]

But they weren't MVP level in 2012...


Wade at his peak was an MVP level player and better than Westbrook and Harden( not as a flat-out scorer, but as a overall player).

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5

[j3lademaster]

What’s the criteria? 2017-19 warriors are the most stacked teams of all time. 2019 Warriors would have obviously pooped on Toronto if healthy, but on paper the team was stacked to the rafters.

[000]

What’s the criteria? 2017-19 warriors are the most stacked teams of all time. 2019 Warriors would have obviously pooped on Toronto if healthy, but on paper the team was stacked to the rafters.
Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

The Warriors had only 2 MVPs

[3ba11]

Harden was a 15 ppg bench-warmer and not an all-star

So no... They didn't have a big 3 because they didn't have 3 all-stars - Harden was a 15 ppg bench player

[000]

Harden was a 15 ppg bench-warmer and not an all-star

So no... They didn't have a big 3 because they didn't have 3 all-stars - Harden was a 15 ppg bench player

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5

[Kobe_Bryant]

well its official. Shaq losing in 1998 is the biggest choke job ever

he had a top 5 all time sidekick and 2 other star players as his 3rd and 4th guys

a big 4 superteam losing to old man Malone and no left Stockton?

lmao

[3ba11]

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5


Harden was a 15 ppg bench warmer - he wasn't a star - so you're just lying and everyone knows it - we were all alive back then and remember - most people barely knew who harden was.

you have to make threads where there's more actual truth to fall back on to support your claim.. this thread is garbage, sorry bud

[000]

Harden was a 15 ppg bench warmer - he wasn't a star - you're just lying and everyone knows it - you have to make threads where there's more actual truth to fall back on to support your claim.. this thread is garbage, sorry bud

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5

[3ba11]

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5


Shaq is a top 5 all-time player but Lebron lost with him in 2010 as the massive favorite.

Again, make better threads - this is a lying thread where you're trying to say 2012 Harden was a star - he wasn't - he came off the bench and wasn't even an all-star yet.. no one is being fooled.. we were alive back then.. only lebron had super-teams in 2012 and it's pathetic how long it took for him to win a ring - the entire league had to conspire to get this bum a ring because he lost as the favorite for so many years in a row... it was like "just give it to him" so he deserves zero credit for his Heat rings.. the guy turned "not 6, not 7" into 2/4 including goat choke and record loss. the guy literally sucks compared to other greats

[TheCorporation]

Not just 3 MVPs

3 MVP, Scoring Champs and 2 with Assist Titles

Unprecedented

[3ba11]

Not just 3 MVPs

3 MVP, Scoring Champs and 2 with Assist Titles

Unprecedented


Lebron lost with Shaq

No one had more teammates with all-star and MVP resumes than Lebron

[TheCorporation]

Lebron lost with Shaq

No one had more teammates with all-star and MVP resumes than Lebron

Prime 2004 Shaq like Kobe? :lol

Or 1 year from retirement, 2010 Shaq?

You make this 2ez. If that's all you have then Yikes :lol

[3ba11]

Prime 2004 Shaq like Kobe? :lol

Or 1 year from retirement, 2010 Shaq?

You make this 2ez. If that's all you have then Yikes :lol


Harden wasn't a star in 2012 just like Shaq wasn't in 2010

Do you see how the 2010 Shaq example destroys your thread?

[TheCorporation]

Harden wasn't a star in 2012 just like Shaq wasn't in 2010

Do you see how the 2010 Shaq example destroys your thread?

How did 2004 Kobe lose with Prime Shaq? Should he still be top 12 after that?

[3ba11]

How did 2004 Kobe lose with Prime Shaq? Should he still be top 12 after that?


Same way Lebron lost with prime Wade/Bosh, or prime Kyrie/Love, or prime AD

Lebron is way worse than kobe and needed 3rd stars while kobe didn't - all the facts show that Kobe was superior

[000]

Shaq is a top 5 all-time player but Lebron lost with him in 2010 as the massive favorite.

Again, make better threads - this is a lying thread where you're trying to say 2012 Harden was a star - he wasn't - he came off the bench and wasn't even an all-star yet.. no one is being fooled.. we were alive back then.. only lebron had super-teams in 2012 and it's pathetic how long it took for him to win a ring - the entire league had to conspire to get this bum a ring because he lost as the favorite for so many years in a row... it was like "just give it to him" so he deserves zero credit for his Heat rings.. the guy turned "not 6, not 7" into 2/4 including goat choke and record loss. the guy literally sucks compared to other greats
Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5

And 2012 Harden was simply a star under Durant ball - Durant reduces everyone - he replaced Barnes and then reduced Curry and Draymond, despite playing in the Warriors system... that's the historical record

[hateraid]

I guess most stacked and greatest team can be viewed differently

[gonzaldo]

an obvious troll thread, but still lakers have done it several times, not only in 2004, but in 83 and 84 - with Magic, Kareem and Mcadoo

[000]

an obvious troll thread, but still lakers have done it several times, not only in 2004, but in 83 and 84 - with Magic, Kareem and Mcadoo

Great post, but the 2012 thunder also had near-DPOY Ibaka - only 2004 lakers have a dpoy in payton

[SaintzFury13]

Harden was a 15 ppg bench warmer

Just so you understand, a 15 PPG bench warmer is literally impossible.

[8Ball]

3 MVPs and a centre that nearly won DPOY that season

Edit: Theres some teams like showtime with 2 but I cant think of many with 3 right now. 2004 lakers?

Yes the 2012 OKC was the most stacked team of all time.

3 MVPs plus DPOY.

If the Heat didn't win that year, Harden would have stayed and that OKC team would be the most dominant dynasty of all time.

[coastalmarker99]

I would say that the

1958 Celtics

1969 Lakers

1984 Lakers

1987 Celtics

2004 Lakers

2011 Heat

2012 OKC

2016 Warriors

2017 Cavs


Are the most stacked teams throughout NBA history that ended up losing in the NBA finals.

[coastalmarker99]

In the 57-58 Finals, in which Russell was injured, ...the series was tied 1-1 when Russell injured his ankle in the third quarter of game three.

The Celtics lost that game by three points, but they actually outscored the Hawks in the 4th period, and without Russell, by five points.

Now, surely without Russell, Boston would have no chance, right?

Well, without Russell in game four, Boston won handily, 109-98. And, while they did lose game five without him, it was by two points.

Russell finally returned for game six, but could only play 20 minutes.

Boston would go on to lose that game by one point, but they outscored the Hawks in the second half, without Russell.


I don't know of a team that was so utterly stacked in NBA history besides the Durant Warriors and 1950's Celtics that could nearly win a title without their best player playing.



As it took Bob Pettit one of the greatest power forwards of all time scoring 50 points in a finals closeout game in the 1958 finals on a Celtics team.


Without Russell to barely beat them.


That's how stacked that 1958 Celtic team was.

[000]

In the 57-58 Finals, in which Russell was injured, ...the series was tied 1-1 when Russell injured his ankle in the third quarter of game three.

The Celtics lost that game by three points, but they actually outscored the Hawks in the 4th period, and without Russell, by five points.

Now, surely without Russell, Boston would have no chance, right?

Well, without Russell in game four, Boston won handily, 109-98. And, while they did lose game five without him, it was by two points.

Russell finally returned for game six, but could only play 20 minutes.

Boston would go on to lose that game by one point, but they outscored the Hawks in the second half, without Russell.


I don't know of a team that was so utterly stacked in NBA history besides the Durant Warriors and 1950's Celtics that could nearly win a title without their best player playing.



As it took Bob Pettit one of the greatest power forwards of all time scoring 50 points in a finals closeout game in the 1958 finals on a Celtics team.


Without Russell to barely beat them.


That's how stacked that 1958 Celtic team was.
Bro, they lost when he got injured and owned the entire era when he wasnt. Are you retarded or what?

[000]

God Im so fuсking sick of people just pushing their narratives here.

[Axe]

God Im so fuсking sick of people just pushing their narratives here.
The irony. You do realize you're also doing the same thing. :oldlol:

Btw, how did you manage to spell '****ing' without being censored? Lmao.

[000]

The irony. You do realize you're also doing the same thing. :oldlol:

Btw, how did you manage to spell '****ing' without being censored? Lmao.
Bro, I have never ever pushed even a single narrative.

I swear youre on thin fuсking ice with these takes:mad:

[Axe]

Bro, I have never ever pushed even a single narrative.

I swear youre on thin fuсking ice with these takes:mad:
Haha liar

[Bronbron23]

3 MVPs and a centre that nearly won DPOY that season

Edit: Theres some teams like showtime with 2 but I cant think of many with 3 right now. 2004 lakers?

No did u forget magic and kareem were on the same team? That's 2 players That's for sure top 10 and arguably top 5. Plus their team was deep. Harden and westbrook aren't even a top 20 and kd isn't a top 10.

This is a joke right?

[000]

No did u forget magic and kareem were on the same team? That's 2 players That's for sure top 10 and arguably top 5. Plus their team was deep. Harden and westbrook aren't even a top 20 and kd isn't a top 10.

This is a joke right?
Showtime had 3 mvps, but no DPOY

[Bankaii]

But they weren't MVP level in 2012...
Durant literally came in 2nd in MVP voting to peak lebron in 2012.
Are you always this dumb?

[000]

Durant literally came in 2nd in MVP voting to peak lebron in 2012.
Are you always this dumb?

:lebronamazed:

[Manny98]

Durant literally came in 2nd in MVP voting to peak lebron in 2012.
Are you always this dumb?
THEY meaning all 3

Are you going to sit up and say Westbrook and Harden were close to their peaks in 2012 as well :oldlol:

[000]

THEY meaning all 3

Are you going to sit up and say Westbrook and Harden were close to their peaks in 2012 as well :oldlol:

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5

And 2012 Harden was simply a star under Durant ball - Durant reduces everyone - he replaced Barnes and then reduced Curry and Draymond, despite playing in the Warriors system... that's the historical record

[Manny98]

Harden, Durant, Westbrook's peaks are all MVP, which establishes them as true MVP winners

Compare and contrast to Wade and Bosh, who peaked at 3rd or lower - those guys are sidekicks to true MVP winners... Ditto for Kyrie and Love, who have never been top 5

And 2012 Harden was simply a star under Durant ball - Durant reduces everyone - he replaced Barnes and then reduced Curry and Draymond, despite playing in the Warriors system... that's the historical record

Harden just put up career highs in assists and rebounds on the Nets

Curry had the most efficient season of his career and his best playoff run next to Durant

Wtf are you even talking about, you're genuinely the stupidest poster on this entire forum, just copying and pasting the same shit that makes no sense

[Bronbron23]

Showtime had 3 mvps, but no DPOY

Okc didn't have a dpoy either. They jad ibaka who maybe has 3 or 4 all defensive teams. Lakers had 2 players that made more defensive teams than ibaka.

Sorry man there's absolutely no argument for okc over that lakers squad.

[lakerstekkenn]

There's no biggest choke jobs, losing is losing, this happens, when your'e the favorite sometimes you lose, this happens all of the time there's no choke jobs just loses because of lack of experience, being out coached, making mental mistakes and not making the correct adjustments, not playing defense or putting out the extra effort or the wrong game plan.

[Lakers Legend#32]

The Curse of the Sonics.

[Spurs m8]

They were all young....there were no MVPs

This is a very low iq thread

[imdaman99]

Baby Russ and Baby Harden. Did he even have his kimbo slice beard yet? :kobe:

[Bronbron23]

Baby Russ and Baby Harden. Did he even have his kimbo slice beard yet? :kobe:

This. Saying that okc team was the most stacked is like saying 2003 lakers were the most stacked.

[getting_old]

The losing teams when Magic and Bird met in the Finals rank at the top