View Full Version : How many MVP winners among Payton, Kemp, and Shrempf? Scoring Champs?
TheCorporation
10-04-2021, 01:03 PM
Zero? Damn
What about Clyde and Porter? 0
Stockon and Malone? 1
Magic and Worthy? 1
KD, Harden, Goatbrook? 6 (3 MVP winners, 3 scoring champs)
Are we done? :lol
3ba11
10-04-2021, 01:06 PM
Jordan would sweep any team in history with a 3rd star teammate, so Lebron is a bitch for seeking a 3rd star to stack the deck
Lebron lost with Shaq in 2010, which is the same as losing with Harden in 2012 (neither were stars)
TheCorporation
10-04-2021, 01:07 PM
KD, Harden and Westbrook had zero MVP's when Lebron beat them in 2012
Lebron lost with Shaq in 2010, which is the same as losing with Harden in 2012 (neither were stars)
What about losing in 2004 with Prime Shaq?
Whoops
3ba11
10-04-2021, 01:09 PM
What about losing in 2004 with Prime Shaq?
Whoops
Lebron lost with prime Wade/Bosh
Lebron lost with prime Kyrie/Love
Lebron lost with prime AD
So Lebron is the biggest fraud in sports history because he literally manufactured his resume and still underachieved... "Not 6, not 7" turned into 2/4 including the goat choke and record loss - that's the worst anyone can do, yet you think it's goat? that means you're dumb bud
Btw, Jordan won 3 Finals against opponents that had more all-stars, while Lebron never won a Finals against more all-stars - Kyrie/Love were perennial all-stars in 2016, while Klay/Dray were 1st timers
ShawkFactory
10-04-2021, 01:12 PM
Harden was absolutely a star in 2012. His .230 WS/48 was 3rd in the league (tied with Durant). His volume numbers just didn’t match his actual star impact because it’s impossible for a 3rd option to put up first option star numbers in any scenario.
The next year he went out and scored 27 a game and lead a team to playoffs in the west with Chandler Parsons.
He was a star.
Harden & Westbrook were legit, but thats Durant ball for you
5-star thread
3ba11
10-04-2021, 01:14 PM
Harden was absolutely a star in 2012. His .230 WS/48 was 3rd in the league (tied with Durant). His volume numbers just didn’t match his actual star impact because it’s impossible for a 3rd option to put up first option star numbers in any scenario.
The next year he went out and scored 27 a game and lead a team to playoffs in the west with Chandler Parsons.
He was a star.
He wasn't an all-star - he came off the bench
stop reaching
if harden was a star then Shaq was a star in 2010 after winning all-star MVP in 2009...
ShawkFactory
10-04-2021, 01:20 PM
He wasn't an all-star - he came off the bench
stop reaching
if harden was a star then Shaq was a star in 2010 after winning all-star MVP in 2009...
It’s not reaching. His impact numbers were elite and he immediately put up star first option volume numbers the next season.
He was a star. He just didn’t put up star numbers because he was a 3rd option on a stacked team.
Lebron and shaq don’t have anything to do with it.
TheCorporation
10-04-2021, 01:53 PM
Harden was absolutely a star in 2012. His .230 WS/48 was 3rd in the league (tied with Durant). His volume numbers just didn’t match his actual star impact because it’s impossible for a 3rd option to put up first option star numbers in any scenario.
The next year he went out and scored 27 a game and lead a team to playoffs in the west with Chandler Parsons.
He was a star.
Bingo!
He also won 6 MOY in 2012.
TheCorporation
10-04-2021, 01:53 PM
Harden & Westbrook were legit, but thats Durant ball for you
5-star thread
How many MVP winners among Payton, Kemp, and Shrempf? Scoring Champs?
3ba11
10-04-2021, 01:54 PM
Bingo!
He also won 6 MOY in 2012.
lol
a 6th man non-all-star is now a star and part of a big 3?
lebron fans themselves are frauds - they eat, live, breath their delusions and fraud
How many MVP winners among Payton, Kemp, and Shrempf? Scoring Champs?
I spent 19 hours researching this and so far I havent found any MVPs or scoring champs by these fellas
TheCorporation
10-04-2021, 01:56 PM
I spent 19 hours researching this and so far I havent found any MVPs or scoring champs by these fellas
So then the 2012 Thunder had more MVP/Scoring Champ winners than ALL SIX of MJ's Finals opponents combined?
So then the 2012 Thunder had more MVP/Scoring Champ winners than ALL SIX of MJ's Finals opponents combined?
I believe that is indeed the case.
TheCorporation
10-04-2021, 01:57 PM
lol
a 6th man non-all-star is now a star and part of a big 3?
lebron fans themselves are frauds - they eat, live, breath their delusions and fraud
Harden has won:
6MOY
MVP
Scoring Title
Assist Title
Only player in history to do all that I believe.
Next
3ba11
10-04-2021, 01:58 PM
Harden has won:
6MOY
MVP
Scoring Title
Assist Title
Only player in history to do all that I believe.
Next
Shaq is a top 5 all-time player and Lebron lost with him as the favorite
Manny98
10-04-2021, 02:08 PM
The 2012 Thunder had zero MVPS, you can't count someone as an MVP when they haven't won an MVP yet, that's retarted
HoopsNY
10-04-2021, 02:19 PM
How are you going to lose to MVPs and scoring champs when you are the MVP and scoring champ? What a dumb thread. Not to mention, MJ beat former MVP (Magic), current MVP (Barkley), and twice beat Malone ('97 MVP).
You want the scoring champion for basically every year to beat scoring champions of his era? This makes no sense.
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